Iran: Attacking us will expedite Israel's last breath

AMNY's posts are always negative in nature Unlike you, he never says anything favorable to the Arabs He uses these forums to express his anti-semitism As long as the subject pertain to Israel and Jews, he's against it Poor creature refused to admit that if it weren't for Haym Solomon, who hocked his fortune and those of his Jewish friends, to give money to the Colonies so they could purchase arms in Europe, there wouldn't now be a United States He's the great "I am", who never was, waving the flag as a disguise for something he never did

By his own words, he never served in the Armed forces, merely a civilian employee Yet, he runs around waving the flag as if he had done active duty and won the Medal of Honor

Wowee, so I left out the "N" when I typed Ginza, you know that I do make typing errors You will note that AMNY stated the he did civilian duties, not military Which means, that in effect and fact, he never ever performed "military" duties in defense of the country In other words, he's a hired hand, just like any hooker

P.S. One of my tours of duties in the U.S. Army was in Japan P.P.S. I saw AMNY type handing out on the Giza, for a couple of hundred yen could have one of them- Ass Trisks Bin Jibberish Just trust me, it has meaning to anyone that ever served in the American Military, since every Soldier, Sailor, Marine of Flyer has an "MOS" and that includes the Coast Guard too Ass Tricks you never cease to amaze or amuse. The next time you stroll thru Giza check out the Great Pyramid of Giza and the Sphinx. You can also wander down by the banks of the Nile and feed the crocodiles. Or do you call them alligators? If you see any in Japanese tourists in Giza say hello. If however, you took a stroll through The Ginza I am sure that you would see more Japanese then you saw in Giza, but no Pyramids of crocodiles. To your next ridiculous statement which you repeat with regularity, no not every branch of the service uses the acronym or the designation MOS. Only the army and marines use MOS. The navy and air force each have their own system of classification and it is not MOS. I do not remember what the coast guard uses. Any way, you are such an arrogant idiot and liar. Most people who have military experience would know that the services use different designations for their specialties. Now go on line and look it up. I have finally given you a clue.

Silvienne, Ass Trisks Ben Jabo is mentally challenged. I also spent time in Japan as a civilian working with the Air Force as a tech rep. Giza is in Egypt. The Ginza is in Tokyo. Ass Trisks is probably referring to The Ginza, which is more like 5th avenue and Broadway rolled into one. It is not sleazy, nor does it have the reputation of Times Square. It is in fact expensive and considered very fashionable by the Japanese. A place that does have the reputation he is alluding to is Shinjuku. That was a combination of Greenwich Village and Times Square. I am sure that I traveled more widely around Japan than He edit and got to know the Japanese better than he did. That is they advantage of being a civilian. The Japanese generally avoid personal contact American military. It is a fascinating country. Ass Trisks is mentally challenged, which is why I seldom respond to him. Yes, I was in the military which annoys him to no end. That I refuse to engage in his little game annoys him even more. I enjoy it. He forgets and repeats himself for no reason.

"Must be great to be an armchair warrior- Ass Trisks Ben Jabo" to Mark Lincoln "You should know"- ANY Silvenne You`re wrong about that, American. Ben Jabo has served in both the American and Israeli militaries....# 167 I cannot disprove that, nor can you or I prove it. I do not care. His comment was to Mark Lincoln who I have a great deal of confidence in. Mark has not boasted of his military experience but I have little doubt that he has. Mark one time described a piece of military equipment used in Vietnam by nomenclature and capabilities that could only come from personal experience. Of information supplied from Mark and Ben Jabo, Mark?s is more credible and verifiable. Ben Jabo is the arm chair warrior that he declares Mark Lincoln to be. I am not going to argue. Further, it is irrelevant whether Ass Trisks Ben Jabo has or hasn?t. He makes no sense. All he has are emotional arguments.

I think it`s possible that when Ben Jabo said no ground units were needed in Japan after the bombs were dropped, he could have meant there was no further resistance from Hiroshima and Nagasaki- Silvienne 165 I go by what he said. U.S.A. didn`t require any "Ground Units" after they dropped "A bombs" on Hiroshima & Nagasaki. Japanese military ceased operations and surrendered, all within a week- * BJ American Occupation forces were AFTER the Japs surrendered and totally disarmed.- BenJabo Idiotic statement, all occupation forces are after the enemy has surrendered. American occupation forces were necessary after the Japanese capitulated. They enforced the disarmament of all Japanese forces and compliance with the terms of surrender which the Japanese were not really happy with. His argument that occupation forces are not necessary is idiotic. What is the purpose of war if you do not occupy the country and enforce your demands on them? Who disarmed them before the occupation troops arrived, who verified their disarmament before the occupation troops arrived.?

What is the MOS? The discussion goes back probably two years. Ass Trisks, BBSNews and I were having a conversation with * BJ when he started bragging about his American army experience. He used some obscene GI slang that was not constant with normal usage among GI?s or what I have heard in my working career with the Army, Navy, Air force and my military service. In addition if it were used that way it would have invited ridicule form other service members. That led me and BBSNS to question his service record. Actually, everyone here almost has to accept anyone?s claim of military service as there is no way of proving or disproving any claim. It is irrelevant. MOS is the Military Occupation specialty used by two of the armed services., the army being one. services. It identifies the skill or specialty that the individual has been trained for. It is a numerical designator that identifies his trading and function that is referred to as his/her MOS. For instance, an infantry man has unique number that identifies him, a cook, food service specialists has a different one. This is the MOS. The funny thing is after all this time Ass Trisks still has not understood that it is not used across all services. Which makes me again wonder about his ?experience??. The Navy, Coast Guard and Air force use other terms. If * Ben Jabo had the military experience I would have expected him after two years to pick up on this. Now that I have explained it to you he may now understand and narrow his question a bit. However all this was covered some two years ago but he forgot. I am finished with the teaching the imbecile

I can't tell you what "MOS" stands for, if I did, that character that claims he's ANMY would also find out Just trust me, it has meaning to anyone that ever served in the American Military, since every Soldier, Sailor, Marine of Flyer has an "MOS" and that includes the Coast Guard too

U.S. din't need ground troops, if needed the U.S. Airforce could just as well have dropped a couple of more nukes P.S. One of my tours of duties in the U.S. Army was in Japan P.P.S. I saw AMNY type handing out on the Giza, for a couple of hundred yen could have one of them

The sane people in Iran don't control the Armed Forces, the nuts do Ahmadinejad claims he's in contact with the "Mahdi" (Muslim Messiah) and speaks to him periodically, awaiting the Mahdi's arrival That's what all the Jihading is about

"The land of Israel belongs to the Jews from the time they left Egypt...God gave it to them" He told you that personally, I suppose?!!

AINY: "Must be great to be an armchair warrior- Ass Trisks Ben Jabo" "You should know" You're wrong about that, American. Ben Jabo has served in both the American and Israeli militaries....

Thanks for the link...but what do you actually think? Do you consider Iran a threat to America? Or Israel? Or is it just "bluff and bluster" on their part?

Not that I am presuming to speak for him, but... I think it's possible that when Ben Jabo said no ground units were needed in Japan after the bombs were dropped, he could have meant there was no further resistance from Hiroshima and Nagasaki....

"Iran might be foolish to attack, then again, who ever said they were sane?" I do in fact agree with you on this. The sanity (or lack of it) of Iran. But surely before they attacked us some sensible people in Iran would prevent it, knowing as they must do that to attack us would be suicide?

I did read here a while ago in Haaretz that he said that Israel had no right to exist... I'd better go google this...!

"I have told you repeatedly that not all services use the MOS" What is the MOS?

Still waving the flag, though you never did do a day of service, what hyporicy!!!- Ass trisks Ben jabo You do want to believe you?re your lie. But I do not care. U.S.A. didn`t require any "Ground Units" after they dropped "A bombs" on Hiroshima & Nagasaki American Occupation forces were AFTER the Japs surrendered and totally disarmed- _ Ass Trisks Ben Jabo Yes they did arrive after the surrender. That is why there are called occupation forces. They were to ensure the disarmament of Japanese forces. You never did say which branch of service you were in, or for that matter give your MOS- Ass Trisks Ben Jabo Yes l did say which branch I served in. You either forgot or did not pay attention. I have told you repeatedly that not all services use the MOS. You haven?t figured it out and in any case it is irrelevant to any discussion we might have.

You heathen...the God of Israel will protect his people from the likes of you....

Still waving the flag, though you never did do a day of service, what hyporicy!!! American Occupation forces were AFTER the Japs surrendered and totally disarmed It was rather easy to set their paper & wood homes afire, flares did a great job of destruction After the second bomb dropped, Japan had no inclination to continue the war, all of it's armed forces called it quits You never did say which branch of service you were in, or for that matter give your MOS

Palestinians are the rogues...they robbed what does not belong to them...the Hold Land of Israel that God gave to the Jewish people...no ifs ands or butts...they are the occupiers and should go to their 22 other lands....

Tell that to the 22 Arab nations to take in the Palestinians....because, Jordan, which is Palestine, did not live up to their side of the bargain, to accommodate the Palestinians. The land of Israel belongs to the Jews from the time they left Egypt...God gave it to them. The incoming Arabs are the occupiers....they should have gotten out long ago....Blame your own kind for this big mess...

U.S.A. didn`t require any "Ground Units" after they dropped "A bombs" on Hiroshima & Nagasaki-Asstrisks Ben Jabo Dear ass trisks, I do believe that the American occupation force was around 150,000and the British around 30,000. This was necessary to ensure compliance with the terms of surrender, and enforce reform measures imposed by America, etc. Japanese military ceased operations and surrendered, all within a week. ?Ass trisks Ben Jabo Japan surrendered August 24, the advance part6y of occupation forces arrived August 28. Must be great to be an armchair warrior- Ass Trisks Ben Jabo You should know

impartially Here's what VOA had to say http://www.voanews.com/uspolicy/2008-10-03-voa2.cfm

Subsequently Iran made lots of copies

United States considered it enough of a threat http://www.voanews.com/uspolicy/2008-10-03-voa2.cfm

Just for the heck of it, let's assume the American Government knows what it's talking about Here's a link, check for yourself http://www.voanews.com/uspolicy/2008-10-03-voa2.cfm

All I have to do is say I have a gun that is capable of doing harm and say I can point it in your direction That's an Implied threat and you would be foolish to disregard it Iran might be foolish to attack, then again, who ever said they were sane? If you'll check out the Iran/Iraq war, Iran sent young kids enmasse to cross the minefields, acting as human mine detectors, blowing up any mines they came across with their bodies, all to protect the Iranian soldiers that followed behind them Better yet, tell your neighbor you bought a gun in case he gives you any trouble, see how just how fast he calls the cops and you're on your way to the hoosegow for mental evaluation

What I supplied were articles from reputable Newspapers and I gave you the links to check for yourself You, on the other hand, haven't said where and what you read We both know, that in the past, you were taken in by fraudulent information How about this last ten days, when Ahmadeinejad again made his threats at the UN? Are you going to so his own interpreter didn't do his job properly? Ten other posters could have pointed it out to Patrick Warner, who is to say they didn't get the same misinformation from the same place you did or that they weren't doing it intentionally on their lonesome? Better idea, learn Farsi, and read what he said first hand

U.S.A. didn't require any "Ground Units" after they dropped "A bombs" on Hiroshima & Nagasaki Japanese military ceased operations and surrendered, all within a week Surely you remember the photos of the Japanese surrender, hats and swords in hand Must be great to be an armchair warrior

Ben, I know from reading that Iran has never used the expression "wipe Israel off the map" or "wipe Israel off the face of the earth" Those are translations by people hostile to Iran, not the actual words. BTW, I noticed five other posters besides myself had pointed out this error to Patrick Warner. I hope you've had a very nice Holiday.

...they are statements of facts. Just as we might say that our missiles are capable of reaching Russia or somewhere else... It doesn't mean we are threatening to do it. Iran wouldn't be stupid enough to attack Europe or America. There would be no reason for it.

If you had GOOGLED properly you would have found that Iran has threatened Israel on numerous occasions, for starters here's a couple of links from REPUTABLE sources After all this time, you should have learned not to rely on scuttlebutt or at least to have checked for yourself IRAN ? THREATS TO ISRAEL http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,484958,00.html May 25, 2007 Ahmadinejad Threatens Israel with Destruction Iran's president is at it again, threatening Israel with destruction should it intervene in Lebanon again. The bellicosity comes as the UN nuclear watchdog warns that Iran may be as little as three years away from a nuclear weapon. But in a Thursday speech at Isfahan broadcast on state television, he issued a threat more direct than any that had come before. If Israel, he said, were to go to war against Lebanon again this summer, it would be destroyed. "If this year you repeat the same mistake of the last year," the Iranian president intoned, "the ocean of nations of the region will get angry and will cut the root of the Zionist regime from its stem." The speech came just hours after a report by the UN's nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), warning that Iran's ongoing enrichment of uranium meant that the country could have a nuclear bomb within three to eight years Vol XXXVI (No. 7), 27 Jul 2008 Iranian President vows to quit UN and wipe out Israel MIL/Agencies, Apr 25, 2006. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad repeated his vow that Iran would wipe out Israel off the world map. He continued to say "We cannot allow this fake regime of Israel to exist any more." . http://www.internationalreporter.com/news/read.php?id=1264

Iran has clearly stated that her missiles have the capability of reaching Southeastern Europe and American BASES in the Gulf region If those aren't threats, what are?

I didnt actually know that such cartoons were published before the war but i wouldnt find it strange! Lots of arabs are known for their loud barkings...I personally think it is better to bark when there are sharp teeth to back them up, otherwise they would look like clowns when the game is on!

Because they know the capabilities of Israel. However, Iran will attack back, if they are attacked. Whoever attacks first, will be the loser.

Arabs and persian have been fighting for thousands of years. Iran is building up for another round against Arabs and especially against Sunni Arabs. Iran wants to dominate the region and revange for the loose of 2,000,000 Iranians in the hand of Suddam who was supported financially by Sunni Muslim and Technically by USA during 1980-1888 8-years war.

Iran is like somebody standing in front of me sharpening his knife while lookiong at my neck. Where is the free world. Iran should know, if they send their rockets toward Israel,they most probably will not reach Israel,but land on their friends in Syria, Israel will response sweftly with every right to defends itself and put another lesson in books to rememeber for whoever try to harm Israel. Iran will pay big for its act. They will have to make sure Qom is evacuated and all the Mullas are hiding under their wives.

Did the Iranian army fail to fight Iraq? And how many ground units can Israel land on the shores of Iran?

Of course Iran is scared. It has for years been threatened with attack by Israel and the United States. If they were not scared they would be nuts.

"Isn`t the Arrow supposed to be capable of shooting down missiles over Iran shortly after they are launched?" - Chris Lintwaite No, it is not. "Or is that just propaganda?" - Chris Yup. The Arrow cannot intercept an MRBM during it's boost phase. For MANY reasons.

"Where did they get their missiles?" - Brod What was obscure technology 65 years ago, and limited to a few nations 50 years ago is pretty much cut and dried engineering now days. ANY nation with a competent industry can field ballistic missiles if it is wiling to pay the cost. The top three cities hit by guided missiles were, Antwerp, London and Tehran. Iran has been assiduous in developing their ballistic missile technology and the industry to produce them. I realize that someone overwhelmed by juvenile fantasies of omnipotence and invulnerability might not be able to comprehend there are many nations who can build guided missiles and even launch satellites. But Iran is one of them.

You know the secret Immam that will only come when the believers slaughter all the Jews. No need to be paranoid about a man who had a special light shinning on him that held the leaders of the world so enthralled that nobody moved a muscle. No need to be paranoid about the "Nation of martyrs who can to rule the mountaintops of the world".

"Getting sick of ahmainaldinak`s bluster. Kind of reminds me of the wolf in the Three Pigs." - Jane It is all he has left. He has NO control over the Armed Forces, national defense, or the atomic program. He has failed so miserably in the arena where he does have power, the national economy and internal government, that he had to steal the last election. And that theft was so blatant that most of the legislature walked out when he was sworn in. Five times a day Ahmadinijad must thank God for the continuing obsession of Israel with his twaddle. Five times a day he must pray for Israel to solve all his problems by attacking Iran.

"A year earlier, we were told Khrushchev said he bury us." - Mark of Lewiston Lousy translation for dramatic effect. The whole phrase was more like 'in the economic struggle we will throw you down the outhouse."

"Israel wiped out the Air Force of Egypt, Jordan, Syria in hours and ground their advances to a halt." - Rambo This is the advantage of a first strike against countries which are on your borders. Israel fighters cannot fly combat missions over Iran without in-flight refueling. This refueling would have to be done both pre- and post strike. Do you have a clue what tanker assets Israel has? And do you realize that whereas israel could 40 years ago employ its entire airpower against Egypt, Syria and Jordan, it cannot attack Iran with but a tiny fraction of it's airpower? Have you studied the air-war of the Iran-Iraq war? It is clear Rambo that you are unaware of how well the Iranian Air Force acquitted itself under very dire circumstances. Iran is not an aggressive nation, but it is tenacious on the defense. Now toddle off and watch your Rambo movies.

Either the US or Israel attacking Iran and at the very least putting their nuclear weapons program back by years might provoke Iran into firing missiles at Israel but although some will inevitably get through depending on how many missiles fired the majority will be stopped by Israels defense systems. Even if some missiles do get through its better a conventional missile does some damage now rather than waiting for a nuclear tipped missile to be fired. All it takes is for Allah to give a vision to Irans supreme leader saying nuke Israel and they will do it. This isn't like the cold war when neither side wanted to destroy each other and decisions were made by politicians not ayatollahs who believe that you go to paradise with 72 virgins. The arabs are not scared of a nuclear Israel they know the rules you dont destroy us & we won't destroy you but they are terrified of the idea of a nuclear Iran.

I deduce you are referring to Iraqi Army soldiers abandoning their 'arms' after the US invasion. Your question was somehow entertaining for me. Without sounding condescending, there are major differences between Iranians and Arabs. While Persians/Iranians have existed consistently as a nation for millennia, arabs haven't been around as so, their existence has been more of tribal. This is the very reason despite unrelenting efforts, Saddam couldn't unite his Iraqi population under the so-called pan-arab nationalism. Sure arabs were successful in 'arabizing' others such as egyptians and moroccans, etc, but the only thing they were successful in implementing was their religion with the Persians. Back to your question about whether the Irainian army 'WOULD' fight, I can assure you that they would...that has been engraved into every Iranian soul for millennia....as the saying goes: cho Iran nabaashad, tane man mabaad!! Go find out what that means....The world of difference indeed!

Thank you Persian Kitty for pointing out the obvious. But regime change in Iran cannot come from the outside, only the inside and the Iranian people themselves. An attack will only solidify all Iranians with this crazy regime, it is like a game of walking on eggshells...but Iranians, the future of the entire world may be in your hands. China has been the one selling the weaponry to Iran. She is too big, too much of a trading partner, owns all of the US Treasury notes, it is getting to the point that really nothing can be done about China.

you are sick. very sick. how about those missles be aimed at you, and those you love. real tough on the talk, trying turning it towrds you.

Oh big H, your headlines and body scripts are amazing, I can't stop laughing at their biased double meaning, But we understand your forced position.. But they're so funny in the real world.... Thanks for the laughs guys I truly mean it, funny funny stuff you put out, sorry the world doesn't spin the same...

Well I guess the Gazian Terrorists felt safe storing their weapons & hiding in Mosques...BAD IDEA!!! Now Iran has it missles sites & underground facilities near QUOM...another BAD IDEA!!!!

I still have a book of all the cartoons published in arab media just before the six days war in 1967. They clearly explain how they will erase israel from existence and push the jews into the sea. Well we saw. Barking loud is a trait of these middle eastern dictatorships. But from the arab proverb: "The dog barks but the caravan passes" and from the past we know it is just toothless barking. If a war starts the proud revolutionary guards will leave their shoes behind to run faster.

You make a good point and actually I am convinced that Iranian mollahs don't care at all about Israel. But it is a nice line to keep all arab states asleep all around Iran. They are the real agenda of the mollah's regime. The declared hatred of Israel works well to bring support to Iran from arab masses and european lefties.

I am sure that the Israeli remember all too well the yom kippur 1973.

Even one or two medium attacks on Iran's sensitive places,will collapse the regime,due to the lot of complicated problems.they have in their country.

Wow, a few millions of persians as collateral damage, and Imagine if this happens for the jewish people. No you are totally wrong. The Irani people respect very much the jewish people as do the religion of Islam, however not the raciste, fashist, war crime zionist regim.

Iran will be a nuclear power soon or later. The best for Israel is to have a freind relationship with Iran like any other nuclear power. Pakistan is an Islamic Nuclear Power. The president of Iran suggests that the zionist regim, not Israel, is not the best solution for peace in the middle East. The solution is let the whole population (Israelis as well as Palestinians) decide democtraticaly to elect their leaders, with the monitoring of the UN inspectors. This is the only lasting solution

While I tend to think Iran has as much right to Nuclear technology, and therefor, nuclear missiles, and do think that the balance of power would likely make them equally unusable (a la the Cold War analogy), I also worry just a bit about Iran's ability, or inclination, to pass such technology on to groups we commonly call "terrorists", but certainly seriously morally deficient people who might more freely use these weapons than a genuine state with a return address. I don't want to deny the Iranians the same right as Israel enjoys, but I do think we must be practical as well.

Its this very attitude that will make our world less safe. Whilst we are on this subject, I guess that you yankees are proud to arm Israel to the hilt and provide them with arms and nuclear technology so that they can de-stabilise the region. The biggest culprit is not Isreal or the Arabs. Its the American who has always been responsible for more carnage in this world. Bear in mind that the only nation to have ever used an atomic bomb is the USA and the one coutry responsible for more loss of life is Israel with the USA running a close second behind them.

If Israel attacks Iran's oil fields, Israel's oil pipelines will become fair targets. Don't be confused into believing that Israel has nothing to lose by going to war.

Edward, Chances are Iran is in position of nukes already. As their Defense Minister quipped: It would only take two maybe three nukes to basically wipe Israel off the face of the earth. What would make you think you would even have time to retaliate after such destruction? What good would a massive airlift like the one that saved Israels rear in the Yom Kippur War be when there would be nothing left to save? Think peace my friend, Iran is not a paper tiger.

Good point, Ian! Never thought of Hamas providing Iran with bases from which to attack Europe. Should not be ruled out, though. The appeasers think that if we are "tolerant" (getting kind of sick of the word), we will be safe. Not only is this attitude demeaning, it is downright naive.

They actually make their own now, in the past they used to buy off North Korea, which is not exactly a beacon of freedom and democracy.

Persians are not the stereotypes that have been painted for you. They have colleges and universities where they study the same subjects that American colleges and universities study. They have engineers and scientists just like Americans have. Their students study abroad, just like Americans do. Two were roommates of mine at the University of Poitiers in the 1970s. I went home to America. They went home to Teheran. I didn't leave America when the religious right took over the US government. It's likely they didn't leave Iran when the religious right took over their government. They are not third world in any sense you've been taught. The US got their first reactor going in the 70s.

Continually making lots of noise, jumping up and down, expressing self-gratification, without ever having been anywhere near the place? Tarzan had Cheeta, we seem to have you, clamoring for attention

I simply dont understand where this Iranian hatred towards Israel came from! they were not even in direct war with Israel and if they claim to be advocates of the arabs then it is also not true!...the fact is that Arabs and Persians dont admire eachother that much!..i guess it is what they call Islam! Governments and individuals which support and incite hatred and aggression towards others should be punished

in order for Israel to attack them and to steer attention away from the dictatorship. Israel will not attack Iran....

All, The German magazine Der Spiegel quoted Ahmedinidjad as saying (in 2006), 'He then threatened Israel itself: "We ask the West to remove what they created 60 years ago and if they do not listen to our recommendations, then the Palestinian nation and other nations will eventually do this for them," Ahmadinejad said. "Remove Israel before it is too late and save yourself from the fury of regional nations." Sounds like a threat to destroy Israel to me. Although Maureen and her friends will translate it 'Love Israel into non-existence'. Farsi is such a complex language.

Iran is developing a guiding system maybe GPS for its missiles that could let them hit within 100m of target. Israel's Dimona reactor would be one of the first targets along with airfields and radar systems. Israel has its own missiles and new aircraft. I think bothsides are more talk and show for world PR right now. Israel is looking for away to bomb Iran but more for option than to attack, most likely over Suadi Arabia but only as last option. Hezbollah may have to weaken before Israel would bomb Iran and Israel will need either US or Suadi Arabia ok but I think Iran will back down atleast for right now but only so far.

"any military attack on Iran should include total destruction of its oil wells. True, you Americans and Europeans will have to pay more at the gas pump" And why should we endure that for Israel's sake, please tell? Iran isn't threatening America or Europe.

Chris, The Arrow shoots down missiles shot at Israel, not Iran.

Israel has the power and weaponry to easily completely obliterate all of Iran in the blink of an eye. Israel need not test anything. So Iran can beat their chest as much as they want, but if the terrible day comes, there won't be one Iranian left standing!!!!!

should include total destruction of its oil wells. True, you Americans and Europeans will have to pay more at the gas pump, but the Iranian regime, without its main source of revenue, will collapse like a house of cards.

perhaps some of them armed with nuclear missiles, are already in or near the Persian Gulf, with their tender ships (carrying fuel and weapons) disguised as innocent merchant vessels sailing within readh. I wonder if Israeli troopships are alredy on alert or have even already sailed on "maneuvers", as it were.

Notice: I did not ask if the Iranian Amry COULD fight Israel in case of an Israeli ground attack; I asked if the Iranian Army WOULD fight. There's a world of difference.

Irans rockets could reach, Israel, where ever that is, could be anywhere they have stolen, aim at the banks thats where they all are, but please no nukes on rocket war heads, load them up with pork chops, this will stop them.

Onehears a lot of bluster coming out of Iran. Methinks it's meant to cover up Iran's nakedness, i.e., fear, of an Israeli attack.

if you say so

How in the world a Third World country governed by a 7th century fanatical religious ideology could have the resources-scientists and engineers to manufacture those missiles?

Israel should be much more generous towards the palestinians. At the same time it should be ready to confront Iran. "Al tefahed klal". Israel should not fear and accept that part of T Aviv probabloy will be blown up. Israel should take the challenge and teare down Iran's nuclear facilities. If T Aviv is bombed Israel should consider to turn Qum into a dessert. American will stand with israel and neither Russia nor China will aid Iran. Maybe Chavez will, but that means nothing. Israel should not fear

"Expedite Israel's last breath". Next time: an attack on Iran will be the "mother of all mistakes".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbjgDERSuiI

"Israel has never tried to take any resources or anything else for that matter from Iran - never ever" This is quite true. Iran has a military and would fight back if Israel tried to take resources from it. Israel steals land and natural resources from the Palestinians, who are helpless. It's the easy option. No-one defends the Palestinian, with military or anything else.

thanks for the info, however it will take some yrs til you get rid of these crook. Wish you luck.

In case Israel may be so foolish to attack Iran? I guess the settler criminals living in Hebron will start running for Syria the next day, in their hope to cross Syria alive and to make it to Georgia. Iranian nuclear attacks will shut down Tel Aviv Airport for the next 100 years, as soon as a single Israeli bomb hist Iranian soil. In other words: the criminal entity called Israel, will cease to exist when it attacks Iran.

There is a small problem with your analysis - Israel has never attacked Iran, not even once. Israel has never tried to take any resources or anything else for that matter from Iran - never ever. Iran seeks hegemony in the middle east and Israel is in the way. Iran is the aggressor. They and Iraq are the only two countries to use poison gas in war post WW1 - real war crimes. They sponsor state terrorism and will sink so low as to blow up a Jewish community center in Argentina - a crime against humanity. They will not hesitate to use anything at their disposal for their goals.

So what you are saying all this fuss and palavar over Iran firing off four missiles is a slight over reaction? Like what the US State Department, and the Russians are saying? As for the Arrow intercepting Iranian missiles over Syria doesn't leave much time does it? Montreal is a long way from Tel Aviv BtW. Hawaii is further away but then you'd be under threat from DPRK so I can understand your choice of geographical location. Much better banging the drums of war when you are nowhere near the incoming munitions. Probably why Israel will never live in peace, all the supporters for war live well out of the area.

http://xenon.arcticus.com/iran-missiles-redux

How many years ago was that picture taken...and touched up...and by whom and for what purpose?

Only recently Haaretz was reporting that Israel was holding practice attacks on Iran. Read Murray, read. It's that simple.

There is a lot of historical mythology in that one, Hemming! Chamberlain is popularly blamed, but it was the backslider Baldwin who had kept the British forces at a minimal level and refused to re-arm them, despite evidence of German military growth. Chamberlain had to negotiate with no cards in his hand. He tricked Hitler into negotiations, bought six months in which to rearm and, though one forgets, was the PM who declared war over the invasion of Poland. There is a clear line between 'appeasement' and 'negotiation' anyway. No one is suggesting appeasement of Iran over (alleged embryonic) nuclear capability. The clear drive is for full access to investigation on the ground, failing which implementation of heavy sanctions, which would cripple both the Iranian weapon programme and economy. Sending NATO jets to blow everything up really is a long-range, last resort answer, notwithstanding Israeli knee-jerk reactions.

... their own limitations... ... until too late...

Getting sick of ahmainaldinak's bluster. Kind of reminds me of the wolf in the Three Pigs.

The best outcome for everyone including Iran, Israel and the rest of the world is that the regime falls on its own. The question is who will replace them and will they be any better? Best regards and good luck to the students!

Israel is not being paranoid, just well prepared.

May the Iranian people ALSO know that this will mean the eradication from the planet of the entire Iranian nation including them if these racist moolahs remain in power and this is their goal!

who will confront Iran beyond empty words and empty threats?

Iran is a relatively modern country. They've been under threat since the fall of the Shah and before. So they have been learning to do for them selves. Their missiles are homemade.

Israel is eager to start another war that it will later claim is "defensive" just like all other wars in which Israel has been engaged. If it starts one against Iran it deserves all it gets.

the military option

When the great idol of the Palestinians Saddam Hussein was firing rockets at Israel during the Persian Gulf War - they were struck and brought down -------over Palesstinian and Jordanian territory. Imagine the same scenario with nukes, with the winds blowing Eastward taking the radioactive plumes NOT towards the Jewish State but back over all the Islamic ones. Will Muhammed glow then too?

Israel, please don't fall for this, the Iranians are trying to lure you in (and will continue to do so via Hamas/Hezbol). The Iranian opposition movement is growing and the radicals have no choice but to divert attention. They will fall apart at the seams if you are patient and show inhibition.

That's the same picture that was proven to be doctored showing four rockets being fired until PhotoShop kicked in. Not surprising Haaretz would reuse it

It would be much better for both Israel and Iran to tune down their rhetoric. Both Iran and Israel know that neither country is in the mood to initiate hostilities. Miscalculation can start a war that neither one really wants or needs. I am just wondering why is it okay for Israel to flex its muscles and send a message to Iran by performing long range flight excercise, and it is not okay for Iran to respond in kind?

This would further help the US's military hegemony in the world.This and North Korean nuclear submarines.

I think that you people are missing the big picture. The U.S. is full of Christian zealots who believe that the second coming of christ, and that is why the christian right embraces Israel. If Israel is wiped out from the map that means that their messiah won't come, and the christian right won't let that to happen. So the big eye in the sky has the sites were the missiles were fired in their cross hairs. American jets are a skip and jump from Iran so a few million persian are acceptable as collateral damage. :)

that you requested and it is so simple, find http://www.voanews.com/uspolicy/2008-10-03-voa2.cfm http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-42553620090918 http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,484958,00.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,400603,00.html If you wish to have additional proof just Google "Ahmadinhejad stinking corpse"

Iran proved to be very wise and manipulative. They are definitely not crazy and they have a lot to loose. I think they are developing a nuclear weapon as a deterrent against US and Israel. Unfortunately we played into their game and we got rid of their enemy Saddam Hussein which was totally unnecessary and stupid.Today Iran is unstoppable and it's too late for launching any strikes. The US troops are spread way too thin and deployed in hostile regions hungry for Iranian weapons and We all know Europeans don't have the guts to engage Iran.

Where is your coverage of the huge student protests in Iran today - beginning of academic year? AN had to cancel his speech along with the minister of science. These protests are huge and I'm shocked at the lack of coverage on them! Am I the only one who sees how AN deflected your attention to something that you may never even have to deal with? Don't you see how redundant all this yapping is if the regime falls? Don't you see how you can help that happen by supporting the movement inside Iran? Can't you see how you're helping regime by focusing on the one thing AN wanted you to focus on?

...to test its military systems as any other country does. It's very probable that Iran feels under serious threat with Israel threatening her at every turn...

If you are not prepared to back up your statement, then it can not be backed up.

The range of the Arrow is just under 100 miles. The idea is to knock down the Iranian missiles over Iran's ally, Syria.

Mr Warner, can you kindly provide us with links to confirm that Ahmedinejad specifically threatened to wipe israel off the map? If you cannot, then do us all a favour and shut your mouth. We don't need an illiterate New Yorker shouting off baseless accusations. Do you not remember what happened when your ilk shouted about Iraq? You ended up with thousands of poor soldiers losing their lives. Peace.

"Iran is the only nation that espouses to wipe countries off the face of the Earth" Iran did not say it wanted to wipe Israel off the face of the earth or off the map. Iran has been misquoted on this issue many and many a time...

Why isn't Iran entitled to test its military hardware? Every other country does. For that matter, why is Iran not entitled to develop nuclear weapons? It seem that all the countries complaining about this have already developed nuclear weapons for themselves. Maybe they feel they need them for their national security.

WE have a question at work. Why cant israel just give back the west bank to palestinians. They allready got eighty percent. isnt that enough? make peace please.

Neil, you are absolutely bang on mate. These zionists have been falsely claiming that Ahmedinejad has threatened to wipe israel off the map. Please can someone provide any evidence to support this claim. No. I thought so. And in the meantime, here are some links for the the zionists to peruse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?articleid=11025 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mScWWtRfGQ http://www.albionmonitor.com/0605a/iranmisquote.html

Of all the nations that have or will have nuclear capabilities, Iran is the only nation that espouses to wipe countries off the face of the Earth. Does Iran want to start a nuclear conflagration and the destruction of our planet? Is Iran crazy or not? If Iran is deemed crazy than they must be STOPPED

Iran, in the collective minds of their spiritual, guiding circle (which didn't invite G-d as He would predictably veto all their evil plans), purport to speak in G-d's holy name proclaiming to the world that Islam (especially their crafting of it) has officially superceded both Judaism & Christianity and is the religion for all mankind to go forth and enjoy forever more. There are to be no violent dissenters to this imposed "blessing", no peaceful protesters, no reasoned questioning, no opposition whatsoever to Iran's Caliphate Cacoon that has already been conceived and is soon to be protected with branches of nuclear-tipped thorns while it waits out its gestation period. What will emerge will more than electrify the world, it will actually be "blinded" by its beauty. Iran is thus understandably highly defensive and protective of any probing finger directed towards this "apple of G-d's eye", but again they failed to recognize that Jerusalem already holds this priviliged title.

The idea of sending missiles loaded with nuclear heads or even with less potent explosives into Israel to destroy is self defeating: 1.) it would create a response by armed forces all around the world that would bring teh Iranian government onto its knees, 2.) There is no nuclear weapon that would not be devastating at the same time for Palestinians, as well as through nuclear clouds and radioactive emissions any place between Turkey, Sudan and teh Gulf depending how the winds blow. The idea of being able to topple the Jewish state is all but a strategical and propagandistic fantasy, even though dangerous enough for Israelis not to take chances in. A nuclear missile onto Israel would for sure kill indiscriminately 10.000s of civilians not only Jews abut would also affect a huge percentage of Palestinians. However it can hardly be argued that Ahmadinejad's blown up political philosophy follows arguments of reason and logic, and thus the developments should not be taken lightly.

'' Iran is free, to feel, and prepare it self for having defence. '' But, It must understand, nucleer weapons are not a big huge game, as it seem to be for them. We, as Israel, and Jewish diaspora, and also other countries, we must verify Iran will not make the bad step. If they do so, Israel must answer. And Israel is obligated with the duty to protect us. I expect that time, Israel to make it's duty for all of us. Shalom to everybody from Greece, Errica

This news report certainly seems to say that Iran said its newly fired missile could hit Israel. Did it really say that or is that the news report's conclusion that a missile of this capability could hit Israel? There is a tonal difference of some importance.

Iranian 'second strike' submarines would seem to be a natural progression/next step. This would further help counteract Israel's military hegemony in the region.

Do your own research. Try a Google search. Netanyahu was trying talk up a war before he was chosen as PM by Mr Peres. Netanyahu thinks "it is 1938 and Ahmadinejad is Hitler." (Haaretz)

on the other the Iranians lost their only AWACS (eyes and ears on their border) in a recent accident. Perhaps they are concerned with being infiltrated from all sides. Happy hunting secret agents!

Who have been selling these missiles to Iran???

Isn't the Arrow supposed to be capable of shooting down missiles over Iran shortly after they are launched? Or is that just propaganda?

"Israel makes threats of or/and calls for other nations to attack Iran 365 days of the year!" Indeed, how can that be compared with the intermittent declarations of "map erasure of Israel" by Iran's President and the Supreme Leader?

Israel can test their missiles,no one will dare say anything,not even Maureen Ann,We will use their arguments against them.Israel can also send a message by doing so,Israel can do the test on Eid ul-Fitr.

The anti Israel camp his celebrating.They are making their wishes clear to us,and rejoicing with the idea of Iran's missilies and possible nuclear weapons.They hate Israel so much,that they don't even recognize the danger for themselves.Israel shouldn't worry about Iran.The only one they will never attack is the one that possess nuclear weapon and will retaliate.That leaves the Arab states,and some Europeans states as a potential target. Iran saw what happen in Lebanon after kidnnapping of Israeli soldiers.They saw Gaza too,and they can guess that Israeli reaction for nuclear attack will be the end of them. The one that rejoicing now did the same when they"created"Osama and they got 9/11.now they are "creating" a new monster,and it is them that will pay the price,not Israel.

Of all the nations that have or will have nuclear capabilities, Iran is the only nation that espouses to wipe countries off the face of the Earth. Does Iran want to start a nuclear conflagration and the destruction of our planet? Is Iran made up of martys whose sole goal is to be glorifeid in heavenI Is Iran crazy or not? If Iran is crazy, must it not be STOPPED?

When last was Australia threatened with being "Wiped off the Map" & when last did your local Abbo's fire rockets on Barmy Bathurst????

I wonder how can people be so sure of winning over Iran..... Why should Israel not go up in smoke? you seem to forget how you were trashed in Lebanon by Hizbollah, so that the EU paid for Unifil to protect you; and after your win in Gaza, the whole world turned against you..... before you break more eggs make sure you know how to control the fire, or your homelette will burn in your hands...

Consequently the Iranians would be justified to pre-emptively attack the rogue state colonizer of Palestine.

You live on the moon, otherwise how come you are so ignorant of the facts.

"You bomb our cities, we bomb yours; you kill our people we kill yours!" An attack on Iran may mean Israel self-destruction.

I love peace and am of the opinion that it will be achieved when balance of power is restored in Palestine. Israel is supported and protected by the powerful West. Arab regimes including the PLO are merely agents in the hand of the USA and willing to sell anything for the price of being in power. Lasting peace requires restoration of Palestinian right and self-determination which surely will lead to a one state solution. Islamic Iran is seen by the people as a challenger to Israeli arrogance and dictate. Despite siege, war and isolation Iran was able to rise and be respected.

The only people listening to you are you and you, and Micronesia...... in fact you are in a cul-de-sac and your famous grip over the world vanished in just 60 years.... time to take out the second passport!

Israel says: "Israel considers Iran a strategic threat due to its nuclear program, missile development and repeated references by Ahmadinejad to Israel's destruction." Ahmadinejad never said he wants to "Wipe Israel off the map". He did quote a mullah who said that the Zionist "Regime" will be removed from the pages of time. Just like the "regime" in Russia. So. Look it up. Seek the truth if you are open and honest. The continued lies do not do anyone justice except for the Bush like people who require a litany of lies to get to go to war. Hegemony requires being able to strike your opponent with no fear of reprisal. That is why Israel attacked Gaza. Like shooting fish in a barrel. Stopping Iran from retaliating if it is attacked. That is the reason for the constant US tail pulling to stop Iran from gaining defensive weapons (S300 AA missiles) or weapons of retaliation. So far, countries attacked: Israel 5 countries + civilians of many others Iran 0

... Muslim neighbors. These Iranian tests also serve to put neighboring Arab countries on notice that any of them seen to be assisting the West's efforts in a future strike against their country's nuclear program will face the wrath of the regime. Iran will push the issue to the edge of brinkmanship but I believe that they just can't stomach seeing their prized, pet projects (Busher, IRGC facilities, and their nuclear infrastructure at Natanz, Arad, Qom, etc.) reduced to revolutionary rubble with America's new generation of MOPs or with Israeli strikes, no matter what damage they also inflict on Israel, the US, and any of its Arab allies. To be set back about 30yrs. and more after spending billions on Chinese, Russian, Pakistani, and N. Korean expertise, and their own R&D, is something the regime would rather not entertain, as their Caliphate vision will also go up in smoke. Also, a crippling strike on Iran is something the regime may not recover from politically.

The world live a new arm race. Why? Because there is no international law and the unique language which countries like USA understand is the power one. Look for my Souty America, we finally woke-up! WE DESERVE THE BEST WEAPONS TO FACE GREED NATIONS THAT WANTS OUR RESOURCES BY FORCE. Iran is not different, it's must arm itself in order to face the agressor called Israel. So zions, we started it. Please, don't cry...

And we were building fallout shelters. A year earlier, we were told Khrushchev said he bury us. Little Nikita in Iran sounds a lot like we were told about the real Nikita. Where is Israel's Kennedy? Will he bargain away Israel's equivalent of the Jupiter missiles that threatened Southern Russia? Bibi should stop thinking of himself either as Messiah or as Churchill. Kennedy is a better model. But it's hard to picture Netanyahu as a Kennedy, even if he does have enough hair.

The smartest approach to a holocaust denier, yom kippur missle tester, self professed face of the apocalypse, hamanic suppressor of his own people, and a national leader with extremely twisted non-sensical thinking is the following: 1. Support the Iranian opposition party with an Israeli national day of solidarity with them. 2. Give the Iranian government a clear idea of what would happen if any missle irrespective of the type hit any part of Israel. Teheran would be turned into glass. 3. Be prepared to shut down the straits of hormuz to choke any Iranian oil off. 4. Create a non-government middle east peace conference including the Iranians to openly discuss political freedom. Remember, theocratic goverments fall eventually. The time is now!

It seems to me there is no respect for the Jews on the holy day from the Palestinian/Iran side (missiles and clashes in Jerusalem.) I haven't seen Israel show disrespect for Islam's most holy days. Can anyone respond? Have a good holiday.

"Israel makes threats of or/and calls for other nations to attack Iran 365 days of the year!" Kindly provide a link to a newspaper story supporting your comment. It could be from any of the preceding 365 days. I doubt that you will be able to provide one.

Test firing missiles??!! On Yom Kippur??!! How dare they!! Why shouldn't they test their missiles? They'd be dumb not to the way he West have been threatening and carrying on these last few days about their 'secret nuclear facility'. I mean, who else in the region would have a 'secret nuclear facility'? The world is waking up to what's really going on here and it's the same load of garbage that we heard before the West destroyed Iraq. It's not our freedoms and democracy that 'they' hate about 'us'; it's our arrogance and hypocrisy! And who can blame them?

Israel makes threats of or/and calls for other nations to attack Iran 365 days of the year!

Very profound for once. Likening Iran and its leaders to monkeys and apes. Although demonstrating their military prowess is akin to what every Arab country that attacked Israel did during their celebratory military parades. Israel wiped out the Air Force of Egypt, Jordan, Syria in hours and ground their advances to a halt. I am sure that in spite of what the world believes is a futile attempt by Israel to attack Iran, they are more worried about what Iran will do to them. All it takes is one lunatic to launch missiles at Israel of which there is no shortage in Iran. Remember that!!!!!

The Chimp jumps up and down. He beats his chest. He hoots. If the rest of the Chimps do not respond, he has failed.

Never forget Munich 1938!

Are not ARABS!!!!!!

gov/regime of Ahmadinedjad, uniting the iranians against any (foreign)ennemy and make them act accordingly. Any try to take an attack on the nuclear sides as pretext for a uprising against the governement/regime will mark them as guilty of high treason of the iranian people.

and you think they should be afraid???

My Jewish uncle was a fighter bomber in WWII and fought the Japanese in the Pacific arena. There are many Jews who are willing to fight and give their lives for Israel. Many Jews are not religious; however, I think Israel learned its lesson from the Yom Kippur war and is prepared to fight on any day. Hitler killed so many Jews in Europe, 75% in Nazi occupied lands and 90% in Poland and Germany. I don't think the Jews would let that happen to them again.

The reason for attacking on Yom Kippur was that Israel was less likely to be prepared; the reason for testing short-range missiles on the eve of Yom Kippur is psychological warfare on Iran's part. Their nuclear program may be nothing but psychological warfare. The Yom Kippur war, I think, shows that those Jews who are not religious and willing to work and fight on religious holidays will still be in the front of the Israeli Defense Forces and prepared to fight any day and any war, even psychological ones.

Ever notice that everyone of Iran's missile tests are successful? Gotta love state-run media!

Speak of war and you will reap what you sow. Israel and America will annihilate you, your president, your ayatolah, and your revolutionary guard.

Understand the enemy John. When you are weak ..show your enemy you are strong. iran plays that game. No viable air force, navy or Army. Yet they con tinue to kick the tiger in the ass. Eventually when you kick the tiger in the ass enough, he turns and faces his antagonist, and when that happens Iran had better have something real good to deal with the tigers teeth. machismo, bravado, hyperbole dont work too well against a well trained and disciplined attacker. iran needs to simply shut up before it puts itself in a position where their world comes crashing down on them

long range and via latin america.Israel stands between an enslaved world and a free one but the west is blind.Irans religious zealot mullah government has a plan for the world and the west better wake up and focus on the true enemies of humanity.The extremists fueled by Iran.Israel sees the writing on the wall and I am glad that Israel is watching.Where is america? http://www.gloria-center.org/Gloria/2009/09/missile-defense.html http://www.web-view.net/Show/0X73276ACAAAF4D738A572D64D7780D11A001E04F11E9434438186735DBD637488.htm#0_133615

You get some tourists in Rasht right? Well since you re so happy about threatening Israel once you shoot off you your 2000 km missiles the only tourists you will ever see in Rasht will be men in white suits(and masks).

Prepaire to buy pop-corns for the show, coz firecrackers will burst all over the Middle East, at least after that war everyone will be sick of it peace will prevey and whole World will have benefits from it .... Peace comes after the war (latin proverb)

I'm certain all Israelis are shaking in their boots (not) at the thought of Iran firing off another fire cracker. After thousands of years of persecution at the hands of idiots like you, Israel can handle whatever is "thrown" at it!

Israel and others have enough missiles that can actually hit a predetermined target that can retaliate if Irans rulers decide to unleash their arsenal of missiles against Israel. same with an A bomb.the real trick is to deliver it on target and not get massive retaliation in kind.Iran is more of a threat as a supporter or terrorists, etc., and destabilizer of regimes. Irans leader should concentrate on running Iran properly. Iranians are cheated as a result.

Israel has been calling for an attack on Iran 365 days of the year... for how many years?

The 2000 KM long range missles are being tested on Monday....be ready...BIBI..be scared...

Where did the Islamist-Jihadist Fanatics in Iran get their missiles? The countries that sold those dangerous missiles to the dark forces should be targeted with missiles. They are as dangerous as the dark forces.

The European apologists for Gaza terrorism had better think about the geopolitics of the situation.At the moment Iran's missiles can reach Israel.If Iran can get the use of the Gaza Strip as its western missile base,courtesy of its Hamas allies,the whole of Europe and North Africa will be in Iran's range. And that's why Israel's war with Hamas is everyone's war and they'd better hope that Israel wins it. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!

Lets hope the Jews realise this holiday that only through self-reflection, looking into their sins, acts of kindness and being unified together, will G-d help us through this tough time

Iran is obviously throwing the gauntlet at Israel. Challenging Israel to attack. Now, seemingly, Israel is the prime mover on an attack on Iran. What are you waiting for? Iran lo launch an attack which would have the USA running to defend 'little Israel' - It ain't gonna happen! A couple of nukes would do it.

Quite a coincidence, I would say. I think Israel needs to keep their ears peeled and eyes wide open re Iran's firing of rockets on Yom Kippur. May I suggest that Israel keeps their "wares" equally pointing towards Iran. It's a true saying... never remove your "canny" attention away from an arab.

Every country with a military tests their weapons. Nothing unusual about that! The fact that the test is on Yom Kippor is obviously a message to the Israelis that if provoked they will respond dramatically. They seem to have no fear of the Israelis. One has to wonder why?

Whatever the weapons are, all that matters is the will. You must live with their freedom.

It will soon be over for them...

If you think that the timing (on Yom Kippur's eve) is not a coincidence, you should say it clearly. It's interesting.