Ahmadinejad questions 'fairy tale' Holocaust, denies being anti-Semite
Iranian president says 'West allows everybody to question prophets and even God but not to open the black box of a historic event.'
By DPA Tags: Iran Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Holocaust anti-Semitism
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad questioned the historic dimensions of the Holocaust but rejected the label of an anti-Semite, the Fars news agency reported Friday.
"The West made a claim - about the Holocaust - and urges all the people in the world to accept it or otherwise go to prison," Ahmadinejad told a group of Islamic scholars Thursday in Nigeria, where he attended a summit of the Developing Eight, a group of countries with large Muslim populations.
"The West allows everybody to question prophets and even God but not to pose a simple question and open the black box of a historic event," he charged.
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Iran President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speaking in Shahr-e-Kord, June 16, 2010. |
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Ahmadinejad had earlier sparked international fury by calling for the eradication of Israel from the Middle East and its relocation to Europe or North America and by describing the murders of 6 million European Jews by Germany's Nazi regime as a "fairy tale."
He said Thursday that the Holocaust was an excuse for Israel and the West to take land away from millions of Palestinians and give it to Israel.
Iran does not recognize Israel and maintains that a referendum by all Palestinians, including refugees, and Jews should decide the future fate of a Palestinian state.
"We are after a diplomatic settlement through a referendum, but they [the West] say Ahmadinejad wants to kill people and is an anti-Semite," the Iranian president said.
"No, this is wrong," he added. "I love all Muslims, Christians and Jews. What I dislike are the Zionists, which are a party that has availed itself of the Holocaust as an excuse to establish the illegitimate state of Israel."
The West fears the political differences between Iran and Israel might lead to a military confrontation between the two countries. The international concern has increased amid fears that Iran might be using its nuclear program to make an atomic bomb.
Iran possesses 2,000-kilometer range missiles capable of targeting any part of Israel.
Tehran has said it has no secret nuclear projects and all its military capabilities were merely for the purpose of self-defense and deterrence.
But Tehran also warned that if Israel attacks the country's nuclear sites, Iran would use its missiles to bomb Israel in retaliation.
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who denies his heritage by bowing down to a moon god for fear of having his head cut off. Chicken is, as chicken does!!!
Dear Haaretz, please stop mentioning this idiot in your posts. He is a populist and nothing else. Denying Holocaust is a crime, 50 million people died, its obvious to me that this guy never went to school and studied properly. He wants attention lets boycott him but not Iranian people, they want to get rid of him too.
"He is delusional."
Everybody can, and should, question everything he is told, especially something as unusual as the Holocaust. But when presented with definite proof, the questioner should accept the proof or deny its validity. Ahmadi should refer to the proofs, not only to his question. When he refuses and just repeats his mantra, that is where denial comes in. Now, is there a similar issue when questioning the prophets or God? Of course not, because nobody has yet come up with a proof they ever existed.
At first I say that I hate ahmadinejad, and my best dream is that he disappears from Iran. second, I do not say the Iranian government has no conflict with Israel, and I strongly condemn its support from Hezbollah and echo this in my communication with those who can influence the behavior of government. However , you also need to change some of your unrealistic perceptions. I do not know how you have concluded that Iranians kill and bomb the Jewish.I do not know how you think that Iran commits such a suicide by bombing a country who itself has an atomic bomb, and I do not see any motivation for doing this. I lived and studied 27 years in Iran in time of Mullas, the worst period of history for Iranian Jews, but never, a single time, we were thought or heard that the Jewish should be killed.They say that Israilis ( and not jews)are killing palestinians and lebanons and have forced them out of their lands, so we should help palestinians, ofcourse not by killing all innocent jews. I think It is still not pleasant for you, but for sure , it is very different from the version you have perceived .At least it means if you reach peace with Palestinians , the Iranian extremists ( and not all Iranians) would have very little reasons to oppose Israel. It means that you should blam Netanyaho,and liberman who make peace impossible as much as you blam Ahmadinejad, as Iranians blam their government more than Israel and US. I only heard Iranians kill jewish when I come to Europe !! For the first ime, I really thought I am terrorized and I am so deffensless to this insult! It happened when I helped an old Jewish woman to carry her loads, but when she understood I am Iranian, she told with fear: Are you going to bomb me?!!!For your information, never ever, in US, and around the world a single case of suicide bombing by Iranians are reported, according to one of professors oh Harward who has worked on Iranian studies. In Iran, even people do not beleive that it is possible that Europeans have been burned jewish because they are jewish! Iranians have protected their jewish community along 2500 years. For years, Hebrew was an important scientific language in some regions of Iran and even the Fenatic Mullas frequently refer to Tourah and Jewish scientists to explain some ambiguities in Quaran. Moses is considered one of the five most prestigious prophets of God and it is clearly declared in Quran that the only difference between Mohammad and Moses and Abraham and Jesus is their timing. AFter revolution, the life of all ethnic and religious minorities deteriorated in Iran, but for sure the pressure to jewish have not been more than other musslim minorities like Balochs, Kurds, and northerns. Jewish have shared the same pains that many other Iranians have.The Jewish are protected according to Iranian laws and culture and even have their member of parliament in parliament of Iran. I was living in Tehran in a Jewish neighborhood, and was exactly sharing my wall with a jewish Kenisset. They are freely doing their religious rituals there, their marriage, their prayers, their ceremonies, ... Even sometimes we knew that some Jewish people are spying for Israel, they have hidden anti-governmental meetings, but we were protecting them among ourselves and not reporting to our government, because we think we have the upper hand in our country, and we should respect to human dignity of weaker groups.I am sure you confirm that hardly jews do so for Iranians. I think it is necessary for intelectuals of two groups, both the jewish and the Iranians that instead of stigmatization each other help a communication starts between two nations. We have already started it in Iran, but we need Jewish intelectuals cooperate with us as well.
Although I think the west is right in allowing people to lso question and research religion...
erdogan got engaged to anna dina jade....
I love all G-d fearing people, regardless, if they are jews, christians or muslims. The very foundation of the jewish faith and identity is an absolute belief in the existance of G-d, not a question of faith. Of course there are secular isrealies, but would you class them as being jewish? I would think the term jewish means absolutely a belief in the Torah and G-d. If the jews are the morality and a 'light' unto the nations, due to their unquestionable belief in G-d, then really the countires who pass the law, making holocaust denial a crime, should also at the same time make G-d denial a crime, and they should pass this law FIRST, since I believe G-d is FIRST in anything. The biggest and most valuable gift that G-d has given Mankind is 'free-will', to believe what ever a person wants, but the jews want to raise themseleves higher and take this gift away from mankind. This is the beginning of the 'thought police', where will it end? To Judith and Lika(15), to pass any law, there must be a very strong sponsor, to push for any new law, which of course are the isrealies/jews.
I have read that the Holocaust is the most documented and researched subject. If Ahmed...wants to to question it, why not confront him with the facts? why is this being avoided? Can anyone explain to me? Thanks.
Ahmadinejad should leave the Holocaust and concentrate on the 9/11 if he really wants to make a point.
Creeps like this horrible Iranian leader who also abuses his own people.
Just imagine this full hatred man with nuclear power, May world stop him and his regime before it be very late.
When he comes out with these ludicrous claims,it is because he has alot of problems at home.
who cares what this little monkey says? his days are counted.
Just need to clarify this.....jews today are not semites....stop pretending to be semites....you are eastern european khazars......stop the lies!!!
You are an ignoramus - stop the ignorance!
Of course completely disproven white supremacist trash. But just in case anyone was in doubt of who has hijacked the Haaretz comments.
Saladin- This theory has been been investigated by genetic sampling. Jews' closest relatives are other Levantine peoples as well as the Kurds. The Khazars do not make a significant genetic contribution to the world-wide Jewish population. On a side note, it's particularly interesting is how closely related the Palestinians are to the Jews.
Jews sya "never argue with an idiot,because a bystander will not know who's who..." Yes,Many Jews have their roots from the Khazars(in Georgia).Many have their roots from the Falashmura (Ethyopia),from the Manasha People (India),from the Lemba in South East Africa, and from all over the world...The Jews come in all sizes and collors...Maybe even you in all your stupidity can have a pint or two of Jewish blood running in your stream of sewage
First they called imbed, next they try to delegitimize their country and now they say that Jews are not Semitic
i believe the holocaust did happen, but i question the amount that actually died, and not to mention, why is everyone fixated on 6 million jews when 10 million russians died and an overall of 72 million died throughout, what makes jews more important than the russians?.
The rest of us knows what happened. And will happen again, if not confronted
And what if Hitler won the war and got what he wanted? Sure, the Jews would be gone, but what about the Muslims? Hitler had plans for you too. His plan was to occupy the Muslim world starting with North Africa and the Middle East. He already had his troops in North Africa. Your so-called "occupied palestine" would have been nothing compared to every Arab land being part of the nazi empire. Hitler then would have enslaved its inhabitants and taken their oil.
who are making the Jews more important that the others. 6 million Jews constituted more than a third of world Jewry - If you question the numbers then do your own research to prove your point. We Jews have the right to commemorate our dead without anyone telling us what and how to do it. I have no problem with the Russians commemorating their war ded, not with the number of Russians you claim were killed. Why should you have a problem with our 6 million. It is all well documented - mainly by the Germans themselves.
...jews were rounded up and exterminated. and don't be ignorant of the number, it has been proven
It is not more important than Russians, but, the difference IS that the millions of jews and some other minorities who died were the result of genocide for merely being jews, catholics, Gypcies, while most of rest who died were as a result of combat/war. Moron. Go and read some Nazi genocide facts.
the difference is that the jews were killed bedause they were jews whereas the otheres wre killed resisting the nazis or other dictators....that does not take away the horror of any killing of people
The rest of us know what HAPPENED. See the INSANE films taken by the Germans during the war and the Americans as they liberated the DEATH camps. The islamic world for the most part was on the side of the NAZI'S. Can you NOT see this? Is the box car clattering down the track again and you can not descern it ? Why? Why again?
the little monkey is having big troubles at home and is desparate to turn it into Israle as the problem and of course muslims being muslims fall for it hook line and sinker. Have fun in little monkey land where all your rights are abolished
The Iranian President, clearly insane, says this that and the other. Who cares, He wants to build a nuclear bomb. Let him - he'll get a response ten-kind for Israel. iran will then return to the same stage of evolution as Europe, around the 9th century - which they are at now anyway - witness their "supreme court" deliberating about whether they should stone a woman to death. Iran is a sick state, if only there were Jews in government. Meantime, if the the above wants to play poker with Israel then let him, there will be only one winner. Bring it on Mr President, our nuclear subs are in the gulf........
he is not a lunatic but rather a demogogue..he should be domonized around the world constanltly as a LIAR Liar LIAR...a liar about the Holocaust and his tales about not trying to build an atom bomb...years form now we will be able to deny tht this liar ever existed
This is the mindset of Ahmadinejad and much of the Muslim world
Belief in god is a matter of faith. It's therefore perfectly rational to question the existence of god .....whereas the holocaust is the most documented event in the history on mankind. Sorry fred..your argument doesn't hold water. Ahmedinejad is a threat to everyone who reads this board and everywhere else….he IS the person, who we might later look back on as having been a raving lunatic who should have been stopped. When will we learn…we can see them as they’re coming…you could see hitler, you could see napoleon……people on the left, right, center, liberals, conservatives, doves, hawks, even you jew haters…this man will ruin your lives too…that’s what you don’t seem to get….and THAT is pathetic. In fact, I think for some of you your jew hate is so insane that you’re ok with ahmedinejad even if you end up going down too….yes you, in england, spain, france, Denmark, Netherlands, Russia, Iraq, Egypt, etc..etc.. enough of this BS about him...time to do him.
Belief in god is a matter of faith. It's therefore perfectly rational to question the existence of god .....whereas the holocaust is the most documented event in the history on mankind. Sorry fred..your argument doesn't hold water. Ahmedinejad is a threat to everyone who reads this boars and everwhere else..he is the person, who we later look back in history at as a raving lunatic who should have been stopped. enough of this BS about him...time to do him.
This is how it begins. You call the genocide of a people a fairy tale, you repeat it often enough, again and again, you make sure to brainwash the people with lies on a daily basis, you do not allow access to education, books, documentation, film footage made by the Nazis themselves (showing clearly and graphically what they did) and…in no time, the fairytale becomes the ‘truth’, made legitimate by stupid self-righteous ignorant and vile deniers around the world, only too happy to support anyone who calls for the destruction of Israel.
Xena, YOU ARE 'EXACTLY' CORRECT...This is precisely what is going on. PLEASE!!!! Warn and instruct as many people as POSSIBLE before it is too late... OR....IT IS GENOCIDE.....AGAIN !!!!!!!!!
Enough said about this pathetic excuse for a human being.
I am 100% convinced that under every criterion possible you are an anti-semite. Not only you are an anti-semite, you are one of the biggest anti-Semites that the human race ever produced.
If he thinks that the evidence for the Holocaust is in a "black box" somewhere, he should sit down and read the transcripts from the David Irving trial in 2000.
So what all those people that were filmed by the germans naked & being bulldozed into pits are what just really good actors?
It looks like Mr. Imanutjob wants conflict with Israel? He thinks his new missiles will save him? HE needs a history lesson in what happened to everyone who has attacked Israel in the last 40 years, It didn't end well for them. Two words "Patriot missile". Your attack will never even come CLOSE to Israel, just piss them off that much more. If you are hell bent on trying, don’t say you were not warned! Be careful of what you wish for King Midas.
I wonder why these utterences by this lunatic are published at all! his opinions should be ignored but his actions against civil rights should be noted. sadly, there are people out there who buy into his propaganda just like the Germans and Austrians did with Hitler. the same kind of fate will befall Iran in due time. history repeats.
I have to ask with all due respect to this newspaper, why does Haaretz give so much space reporting the halucinations of this character? What does he say that is credible or interesting to sane people?
I am against settlers, I am against primitive orthodox jews, I am against Lieberman, I am against the current political establishment in Israel. In Israel there are more then enough reasonable people living though! But how do we get rid of this dangerous dictator?
i question the fairy tale existence of President Ahmadi(tongue-twister)... he must be a puppet put on by iranian media, there's no way i could believe that somebody could be real and THAT dumb..
Beats me why this fellow goes out of way to bait the West, Israel and global Jewry 24/7. Washington finally got so fed up with Saddam's big mouth and menacing behavior it cooked a false excuse to invade Iraq. The Soviets collapsed because their mindless anti-Israel policies and antisemitism destroyed the intellectual credibility of Marxism. Once that's gone, the regime goes with it.
The Holocaust was one of the most documented murder of the jews. The longer he continue to raise the subject the more he will be isolated. I sujest he will visit few of the concentration camps in Europe first something he refuse to do.
You know , as much as I detest this evil little squint I don't think he's stupid. I think the whole reason he says the things he does is to pull our chain and focus attention upon himself no matter what kind it is. And it works with me every time. I feel like ratteling his teeth.
Ahmedinejad is loved,respected all over the globe apart from Isreal. He has friends in Latin America, Asia, Far East and in the Arab world and Africa in comparison to Isreals one and only soul mate the US.
So were Hitler, Stalin and many other despots. So? Feeling comfortable being one of the ignorant masses, Geoff? Good on you.
So the world apart from Israel cherishes Ahmedinejad? Is that why the major nations of the world, even Russia and China, is applying sanctions against his regime? Is that why leading powers such as the UK, France, Germany and others roundly condemn him when he makes these ludicrous racist remarks? Having said that, there is no doubt Ahmedinejad has his supporters, including like-kind racists like David Duke and other Jew haters.
This is an evil and very, very insensitve man. Does the Koran allow for such insensitivity toward others?
Turkey is scoring points versus Iran, Saudis and Egyptians are dead set against him; even the UAE accross the pond is daring to challenge Iran's nuclear weapons' programme. Sanctions multiply and some government official even conceded that it hurts. So let's bash the Jews again. I'd suggest Angela Merkel, as Germany's chancellor, to tell him something loud and clear about the Holocaust, once and for all.
The Germans never denied it, only the "enlightened" Iranians.
This guy is too extremist for anyone's taste. He should stick to politics and not start upsetting Jewish people about their nightmare in Europe. I am sure he knows the truth about the holocaust but is just taunting Israel with his statements. He is not going to help Palestinian people by attacking the relevancy of the holocaust.
everyone is entitled to their opinion.
what kind of human being he really is
And I feel sorry for you if you can't tell the differences.
If the Holocaust is a fairy tale, he wants Israel to disappear and he hates Zionists - it sounds pretty convincing to me that he loves Jews. Ahmadinejad reported that the land Israel is on the occupied terroritory of the Palestinians. The Jewish people were provided a state that they didn't have before because of the fairy tale Holocaust THEN he must be saying that the Koran is a lie. The Jewish people were mentioned many times in that book as the people who lived in the land of Israel .
Did he not read the words of Moses in the Qur'an? Surah 5.22:- 'O my people! enter the holy land which God hath assigned unto you,' And have they not read the words of Allah? Surah 17.104:- 'And We said thereafter To the Children of Israel, 'Dwell securely in the land (of promise)':
Did you???! Where did you see in the book that the poor defenceless Palestinians should be treated that way???!!
"And even the rocks and trees shall say, there is a Palestinian hiding behind me, come and kill him"
there woul be no problem with the palestinians if the arab world had not attacked israel i n the early days and forced israel to fight back to sop the conastant threats and suicide bombers
only that Zionism should disappear, but lets not let the truth get in the way of a good story, huh? When was the last time you ever heard an Israeli politician pay respect to the 6 million non-jews killed in the holocaust? Surely speaking only of the 6 million jews killed is holocaust-denying the 6 million 'other' victims.
Stephen, It's amazing you have the anti-Semitism to spin this evil. Nobody, no institution, no Jew denies any victim of WWII. The Shoah has features that make it different though from the terrible suffering and genocide of other peoples. Let me know if you need an explanation about it.
Instead of lacking knowledge about Islam, Judaism, Iran, and Israel and winging it in your posts, first go learn something about these complicated issues before commenting on them. Any Jewish State in this ancient area that the Muslims have confiscated for Islam - the final religious solution for all mankind according to them - is a Zionist State in Iran's mind. BTW, Israel does not "deny" the other Gypsies, homosexuals, and POWs also killed by the Nazis and their sympathisers, they just recognize the unique hellish drive to scapegoat the Jews, as should you!
Before being removed from the site, a national Iranian publication carried his statements, translated to English on their own site. The whole, "mistranslation" nonsense is a bunch of bull.
"Zionism is the Jewish national movement of rebirth and renewal in the land of Israel ". The zionist are resposible for the formation of Israel. Zionism is the belief in Israel. So...let's see if you can fill in the dots.
Stephen, obviously you are lost in the fog of anti Israel bashing, but if you were to become enlightened you would know that Israel,on a constant basis,recognizes the millions of non Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust.
no other group fell into that category. Some historians who believe that Hitlers war was a war against the Jews.the holocaust is specifically about the Jews i see by the number of approvals to your post the Jew haters are out in force.
For sure, NOT 6 MILLION. And gays and gypsies were not hoarded into camps. Are you questioning the Holocaust, too, peabrain??
Yes he did. If you referring to the Guardian article, then you will find that it has been refuted by some Iranians themselves. There is a good wiki article about it so maybe it’s you who should read before jumping on the bandwagon. Also, if you actually bothered to go to Yad Vashem you would realise that it does commemorate the other victims of the Holocaust but why let truth get in the way of a good moan eh?
He said that Sahiunizm (which is the Farsi version of Zionism) should be wiped off the map! Ladies and Gentlemen, He did not say Jews should be wiped off the map. He said Zionism by which he meant occupation mentality. And one more thing needs to be said: These words were said long before he became the president by the religious leader of Iran.
Gays, gypsies and anyone opposed to Nazism were put into camps. Estimates go into the millions.
Please list names of Gypsy camps and gay camps. Unaware of such.
He said ISRAEL should be wiped off the map. It said so IN ENGLISH on an IRANIAN government news service.
There were gypsies in Auschwitz, and they were sent to the gas chambers.
Wiki: "Some scholars maintain that the definition of the Holocaust should also include the Nazis' systematic murder of millions of people in other groups." When will you show an official declaration INCLUDING other groups into Holocaust instead of SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE? One third of the world Jewry disappeared and MichaelUK aka Stephen still refuses to give Holocaust the importance it deserves.(At least change the wording in "When was the last time you ever heard an Israeli politician pay respect to Holocaust/Muslim cultural achievement in Israel/Palestine"before changing nickname...) Yes Michael,it is not the first time you refuse to talk about Holocaust and why should you if we lost just two-thirds of European Jewry.One third was still alive so what.Huh Michael?Sorry.Huh Stephen? Another “The Jews Are Our Misfortune” self-declared friend of Israel.
"He said Zionism by which he meant occupation mentality." Who are you to say what Ahmadinejad meant? Since when does Zionism mean "occupation mentality"? Only in the minds of ignorant anti-Israel morons, such as you. Open an encyclopedia. Zionism means the establishment of a homeland for the Jews in their ancestral homeland, the Land of Israel. So how exactly do you wipe "Zionism" off the map, pray tell?
The Jews stoned people, the Romans crucified. Jesus (a Jew) was crucified by the Romans but the media (new testament), jealous of Jews, got idiots like you to hate the Jews.You no better than Ahmadinajad and the rest of racists hiding under the banner of 'human rights'.
Completely without foundation. Probably written by those who haven't been themselves. Why not 12 stars overlooking the western wall?
Seems you have a problem with false accusation, Damiel. If someone wants to pick up my comments and run with them then so be it.
nobody cares what he says anyway, since his words and his actions are utterly useless. either the iranian people take this man down or he's going to take their country down with him.
How can any people of the world make it illegal to question the holocaust, but every person has the right to deny or question the existance of G-d? By logic, this implies that isreal has put itself higher than the almighty G-d, which I think is absolutely abhorrent. I am a G-d fearing/believing person, and I would never, even think about raising anybody or anything above the almighty G-d.
Germany and other European countries have made Holocaust denial a crime. Israel didn't make laws for them.
... then I don't think you're capable of getting it.
it is not illegal to tell your personal opinion about holocaust, nobody cares what people say at home or to their buddies in a pub. the public denial is illegal in the countries where the holocaust took place. they know why. as for god--try deny the existince of allah or islam in iran. good luck. try to deny god or islam in iran and see what happens.
She should kiss this ugly frog Ahmadi so he can turn into Prince Charming.
You said,"She should kiss this ugly frog Ahmadi so he can turn into Prince Charming".......................... If foolhardy were to kiss that ugly frog ,the poor girl would turn into a monkey !
The term 'Semite' refers not only to Jews, but to Arabs (whether Muslim or not) as well. Since being Semite is not the same as being Jew, you can be anti-Jew and not being actually anti-Semitic. The differentiation is important because nowadays the fashion is excluding Arabs from the "Semite" term as if Jews had purchased the copyrights for that word. Likewise, being Jewish does not imply being Zionist. Most fortunately, not every Jewish person ends up being a Zionist, brain-washed radical.
Get a freaking dictionary and look up the term, "Semite," which applies to any Semitic speaking people. Then look up the term, "Anti-Semite," which applies to Jews and Jews alone. You don't like it? Write your own dictionary.
Zionizm is movement to establish homeland for the Jewish people. I don't see anything wrong with that since Jewish people of about 15 million worldwide do deserve to have a state of their own. Yes not all Jews are Zionists, same as not all Zionists are Jews. The term "anti-semite" was used historically in relation to the Jews only, since they were the once, who suffered from the Cassack pogroms in Russia, Moldova, Ukraine, pogroms in Poland and other places. Such term have never applied to Arabs as they were not subjected to similar discrimination and violence. Yes, there is anti-Arab prejudice, but mostly this is connected to the Islamic terrorism, started in 1960-s and 1970-s. I also believe that such prejudice is unfair.
The term anti-Semite has a very specific meaning referring to hatred of Jews - not hatred of Semites. It was coined specifically to refer to Jew-hatred or fear, not to the larger Semitic world. The attempt to misdirect it by saying one is not anti-Semitic but merely anti-Zionist is rubbish. Like it or not, which you clearly do not, Zionism is, and always, has been a fundamental part of Judaism. For the past 3000 years our most basic prayers refer to the longing to return to Jerusalem and Zion - modern political Zionism is just the secular expression of those ideals.
The history of the term was developed in reference to Jews. Anti-semitism was coined by a German anti-semite who targeted Jews for everything under the son.
Well the dictionary obviously has a flaw, or is biased in favor of the jews when it comes to this word. If it defines semite as arabs and jews, then anti- semite means obviously means anti arabs and or jews. See the west is pretty anti-semitic when it comes to arabs. Thats just obvious.
I had no idea supporting Israel's existence means that! I wonder what that makes of the religious extremists on the other side who send their children to blow up on buses!
the term antisemitism was created to describe hatred of Jews. That is historical fact. The concept of people being Semites is nonsensical. The dictionary is not flawed; your mind is
who know you guys planted everytihng!
When these survivors are all gone what will this scruffy, delusional Khar dictator insult the children of survivors with next? Shouldn't this small man with the big mouth be boarding his Gaza blockade-busting ships and stuffing his vaunted Revolutionary Guard troops onto supporting vessels to confront the IDF already? Oh the ugly face of the Iranian Regime could not have a more attractive poster child!
They canceled their trip to Gaza fearing meeting with israel solders.They always were coward in the battles.
there is no difference between the two. I don't care what reasons people give for stealing land its still stealing land.
55 Islamic countries. 22 Arab countries. All nearly wiped clean of Jews 60 years ago. One small Jewish country where the Jews are trying to remain on lands they have lived on until 1948 (when Jordan and Egypt wiped them clean of Jews). And Israel is the imperialist. Anti-Israelis are morons.
Get educated and start building a peaceful State for the Palestinians instead of foraging around for facts in the compromised collection of your spiritual and historical revisionism! Not only did your ancestors steal Jewish land and property, you squatted right over top of their most holy Temple grounds.
whether Berber or Jewish or simply not an Arab; life for non-Arabs in your racist world is hell; sorry Mohamed, Zionism is simply the National Liberation movement of the Jewish people. Get over it.
Jews are the indigenous people of Israel. Policies regarding settlements, palestinians, etc need to improve resulting in a two-state solution. However, ignoring 1000s of years of Jewish history does not make things magically better. Just an anti-semitic utterance.
It is moronic to assume everyone who is against Israel is a moron, whatever their intentions. Oh, and a lot of the land your 'small Jewish coutry' is being built on didn't belong to Jews, and was not part of the Israel that was declared in 1948. A lot of the people who lived there now live in refugee camps.
You have the story backwards, Mohamad. Islam started out as a small tribe in present-day Saudi Arabia and now stretches over thousands of miles. And it expanded through the use of the sword. Is that not imperialism?
IT WAS LOST, by the stupid Arab leaders that could not bring themselves to a foreign entity in the Middle East. They thought the WHOLE Middle East was theirs. Their continued attacks LOST more land, and they will LOSE more land with further attacks. Either time for Arab leaders to become pragmatic, or their land will shrink.
"I don't care what reasons people give for stealing land its still stealing land." The Jewish People's absence from their ancestral homeland due to having been exiled by the Roman occupiers is no excuse for the stealing of their land by Arab squatters. That said, I believe both need to get along and both have the right to live peacefully and freely in this land. .
Best answer i have read here in a long while. well said.
Turkey - for instance - did not wipe out jews ! But always protected. you are writing your own history
Tell us again how many Jews (outside of Israel) are left in the rest of the Middle East.
The Christian Bible agrees with the Hebrew Bible that the land belongs to Israel. Perhaps read about the "Son of Hamas", Mosab Hassan Yousef. He became a Christian, left Hamas, and worked with Israel against Hamas.
....by G-d a lot earlier than 1948. The Christian Bible agrees with the Hebrew BIble that the land belongs to Israel. Maybe read a Bible, Will.
Ahmadinejad pulls this out every few months. Why? maybe because he is truly a mad-man. I say stop reporting it.
I ,like, others believe that holocaust happened and close to 6 million died as the result. Why don't we let this midget, Ahmadinejad, open this "Black Box" so the whole world can prove it to him? Why hiding the facts, let's the whole world discuss it; after all, we sometimes question the existence of God! However, If you don't believe in God, i don't think you should be executed or jailed. By not believing that holocaust happened, you have not committed a crime but shows your ignorance. I think we should just laugh at those who do reject the fact about the holocaust.
What "black box" is he even referring to. The Holocaust is the most well-documented and researched annhilation of a people in history.
I appreciate your question. I am an American and Holocaust denial is protected here under freedom of speech. In Europe it is illegal because it is equated with incitement to hatred. The people who question it have a hateful and ant-semitic agenda and are not looking for scholarly discussion.
"Why hiding the facts" Who's hiding any facts about the Holocaust? What are you talking about? The evil lunatic just won't let facts get in his way!
Dude must be reading the comment section of the huffington post.
So now he knows and represents what is "god's will"? This lunatic is the greatest disaster that ever hit Iran.
He's the puppetteer of Syria, Hezballah and Hamas, to name but some terrorist proxies only.
"The West made a claim - about the Holocaust - and urges all the people in the world to accept it or otherwise go to prison,"
Bottom line: Even with the push to destroy documents at the end of the war Germany's documentation was so vast and meticulous enough survived to support the claims. Germany accepted responsibility for it. Germany admitted to it Germany accepted the blame
Like, totally.
However, only today in Iran Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtian was reprieved from hanging for an illicit affair. She has already been in prison for over 4 years and has received 99 lashes as a taster. This is Ahmadinejad at his most grotesque. Children hung from obsolete cranes, thought Police, Women without a true voice and Death for those who obstruct the perpetuation of the Regime. This is the Guy who held a Holocaust Cartoon Competition while demanding the death of the Cartoonist who portrayed Mohamed. This man is nasty and he and his Masters are soon gong to be Nuclear. Rejoice!
I said Hanging but it was Stoning.
And this man is compared to Hitler??!! He is a fool and his reasoning is utterly lacking. Israel does indeed exploit the Holocaust for its own political purposes. That is verifiable but to deny the extent and monumental horror of the Holocaust as historical fact is something that puts this man clearly on the passenger list of the ship of fools.
A failed, insignificant, psychophant. A nebbich, a megalomanic fool with violent, genocidal rhetoric, sleeping in cheap pensions in Vienna. Nobody would give a dime for him. The fools were all of us. So you aren't completelt anti-Semitic, just a little bit: "Israel does indeed exploit the Holocaust for its own political purposes. That is verifiable". Yeah, sure.
You guys drift a float together on the same ship I see...
I was talking to a friend of mine the other day. He is an Israeli of Arab ancestry. He was talking about Lieberman and I said that Lieberman is just a fool - nobody to be concerned with. My friend said I was being rude, insulting and patronizing for invalidating and dismissing his legitimate fears. He was right. Now I say the same to you that my friend said to me.
Ahmadinejad knows his stuff. He's made his argument, now you make yours. He speaks truth.
But he has billions to spare to protect his "civilian nuclear" program with state of the art Russian defence systems when a barbed wire fence with a warning sign would have sufficed. If the death of Jews in the Holocaust isn't true, Ahmadinejad can volunteer to find these frauds living amongst us today, and you can volunteer to hold his notebook for him as you both travel the world extensively looking to document their existence.
Ahmedeinjaad is an academic, if he is denying the holocaust , Please open all research to this past event. He wants the whole world to research this event. Truth has not fear, so let him go research and shut the hell for good ?
you;ll see he is an idiot and if you beleive him, so are you.
There are countless records from the Nazis themselves which prove this event happened.
that won't change the facts he points out
6 million? never been proven
Let's hold a Worldwide Competition for the best Cartoon of Mohamed and discuss whether the Koran is a Myth. Are you up for it? Is Dr Death? Why not?
and you should be embarrassed for saying otherwise
Of the 6 million Jews that perished, this number includes those of interfaith marriages (gentile partners and the offspring and their offspring) that today would not be regarded as Jews. Orthodox (Halacha) Jews did not number 6 million that perished. This is what the Iranians are questioning, not the Holocaust itself.
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