Interior Minister: I'll consider revoking neo-Nazis' citizenship

I live in the United States and after America fought for its independence it didn't allow the North American British Loyalists that left in 1776 to come back and reclaim their property. Why on earth should Israel allow those who didn't come back to Israel after Israel independence in 1948 to reacquire their properities. Besides most of those properities were destroyed by war or expansion of population.

the ideal chance of Israelis and Palestinians to gather and fight against their ennemy.

They are all "GENTILES" who masqueraded as Jews to enter Israel...Police investigation determined the truth...One is a Jew, shame on him...Shame on you for pretending to be a Jew... We both know you're not...You really should use a name that truly reflects your heritage...

You might think of including Henry Ford in your list...Who knows??

They have the right to have a home in Israel, regardless of ideology. Furthermore, Nazism is DEAD. They learned and adopted those behaviors while in Israel. Their parents are responsible for the way their offsprings turned up. They should stop blaming others and accept the responsibility.

Thanx for the info, I did not know Rupert Murdoch was Jewish, maybe even Hearst? Just goes to show.

team mate...You and Ballistic are so full of it, you could run the race neck & neck...Both of you make statement that you can't back up... Two jokers trying to make out that they're important...Making up their fiction as they go along...

You made a statement in #308, I queried you for your sources...As usual you're stonewalling... Leading one and all the conclusion that you're full of sh-t...Besides that, I queried you about maps & borders...Gave you a wide choice to choose from and you're stonewalling that also...I know what you are, just didn't realize the stench would be so bad.. Here's my question re:#308, get cracking, either put up or shut up... "#308 Ballistic - guess what Name: * BEN JABO City: USA State: Gentiles? that "Quick Check" you`ve mentioned, what`s the link or source??? American soldiers NEVER participated in ANY of Israels wars...If you`re making that claim, prove it..!!!...American individuals did particpate, armed forces, nope...Prove your claim, sources and links are requried...Your word is far from being believed... Police investigation proved that the neo-nazi`s were gentiles....There are plenty of law abiding Gentiles resident in Israel...These came in under false sails

Instead of writing your long winded hollow diatribes, try answering two simple questions... If you can't or won't, go play with yourself... As for Craig, he made a statement and told me that I had to research it...Now, that's gall.. He can't back up his trash and you can't backup yours either...Just answer, the both of you... Otherwise, stop wasting my time...If I want to deal with clowns they can be seen at the circus... Even a retard can answer a simple question...The question was geared to that level and you refuse to comprehend and intentionally evade giving an answer... You really should change your name to BULLSHIT, it more than suits you...

let me get this straight...You made a statement and want ME to back it up for YOU??..Are you totally out of your mind???..I don't want to Google anything, you supply the links and stop stalling...As the saying goes.."Put up or shut up" or "Put your money with your mouth is"... Stop evading, give the links or the exact sites on which you're basing your statement...I know about the Nazi & Racist sites...That seems to be where your filth is coming from...

I must say that you're quite consistent with your bullcrap...Making statements and assertions, refusing to back them up... Why the hesitancy in supplying the information about the American soldiers...?? I'll tell you why, it doesn't exist, except in your twisted mind...

I thought you said you responded. Is that a response? I think not. What it appears to be is the old Dershowitz sling the BS parade. If the facts are with you, argue the facts. If the law is with you, argue the law. If neither is with you, sling BS and hope it will stick. You are deluded if you think that BS answer addresses Craig's post. Instead, your resort to the usual Zionist actions of desperation, sling personal insults. You are not a serious poster at all. The only thing you attempt to do is muddle the facts, but God sent one or two of your own, like Chomsky and Finkelstein, to expose you for what you and others who think like you are---BS-ers of the highest order. Get a life. You shovel more BS, more often on the TB without saying anything of value than anybody else. You are shoveling your own feces against the tide, ole chap. But do carry on, you fill the pages. Regards.

Craig must be related to you...Two windbags without proof or ability to prove what they're talking about...Look in this forum, you'll find my request to Craig...He evaded an answer with generaliteis, minus specifics...You just evade, although you've been given a multi-choice selection...An inept student in school would have take the chance of picking one answer and hope that he was correct...You don't have that ability, displaying your total ineptitude... This is what I queried Craig about and he's tongue tied... "#310 Craig - Now, you`ve fully revealed yourself Name: * BEN JABO City: USA State: You made a specific statement and are unable to prove any of it...Which proves that you are the liar, not I... You`re just a poor imitation of a mortal that pretends to know something and doesn`t have any knowledge at all, relies on hearsay and venom to express his witless thougths... "Which Jews are saying that the U.S. is to take in "Every third world immigrant"...Specifics and verifiable sources would be required...Links appreciated...They`re your words, prove it"

I asked Craig a very specific question concerning the statement he had made...He never gave the specifics or his sources... In effect he's just like you, shoots of his mouth with ability to give proof... Craig didn't harm me, neither did you...You both proved yourselves to be frauds by never answering a direct question and evading by excessive meaningless verbiage... If I ever buy a sailbot, the two of you can furnish the wind...

Well old chap, you won't BS your way out of Craig's post, nope. For you to attempt to do so is like the Dershowitz/Finkelstein debate I watched where Finkelstein trounced Dershowitz pitifully, just pitifully. In the end he was reduced to a blathering idiot, which he is. So, Craig lays it out and here you come along with your usual BS about this and that. You are out of your league here. Regards.

What a well written post laying out your attitudes about the ME mess. I anxiously await the response to it, which by history will probably be jibberish. However, your post says it all, concisely, hot dog and to the point. Regards.

Not having had a response from you, bad thoughts have come to my mind...Are you ill, unconscious or been involved in an auto accident?? If not, why haven't you had the courtesy to reply to a simple requests...Otherwise, I'm going to think you made the story up...

I had neglected to EXCLUDE any Nazi or White Supremacist links from my request...I know where you got you so-called information from... Must have been either from the above sources or toilet walls...

Quite a few were wearing "Paratroop" style boots with white laces, as if it were part of a uniform, with their pants legs rolled up so you could see the boots clearly..Boots were obviously intended for "Stomping" purposes...

You made a specific statement and are unable to prove any of it...Which proves that you are the liar, not I... You're just a poor imitation of a mortal that pretends to know something and doesn't have any knowledge at all, relies on hearsay and venom to express his witless thougths... "Which Jews are saying that the U.S. is to take in "Every third world immigrant"...Specifics and verifiable sources would be required...Links appreciated...They`re your words, prove it"

You made a very specific statement, supposedly based on some facts...I asked for your sources.. Now, you're dancing all around...It's simple a matter of put up or shut up...Otherwise, there's no point in going any further... "Which Jews are saying that the U.S. is to take in "Every third world immigrant"...Specifics and verifiable sources would be required...Links appreciated...They`re your words, prove it"

Gentiles? that "Quick Check" you've mentioned, what's the link or source??? American soldiers NEVER participated in ANY of Israels wars...If you're making that claim, prove it..!!!...American individuals did particpate, armed forces, nope...Prove your claim, sources and links are requried...Your word is far from being believed... Police investigation proved that the neo-nazi's were gentiles....There are plenty of law abiding Gentiles resident in Israel...These came in under false sails...

America let 15 million illegals slip through... Israel failed to detect a few dozen out of a million...You don't have any sense of proportion...It's not spin, it's fact...

Sorry I got carried away and didn't respond to your question. Anyway, I noticed that you live in America and should be well aware of the Jewish influence in regards to almost every aspect of foreign and domestic policy. Which is all accomplished very easily through an almost complete Jewish domination of the major media outlets. As anyone with half a brain knows, the media is the most powerful tool is controlling the masses. I have no doubt that you would not dare to deny those two facts. If you did it would completely reveal you to be either ignorant or just a devious liar. The only link that I need to give is www.google.com

How can you say that I sound "racist towards Jews" because of my comments? It is as if you are saying to me, "How dare you little goyim question the chosen people! We are all knowing and capable of no wrong!" Give me a break. I have no problem with Jews for the sake of being Jewish. What I do have a problem with is Jews pushing their agenda upon the American people through their vast control of major media outlets. That my friend is not racism but fact... just fact. I would even go so far as to say that I would prefer not to be burdened with this problem all together. Do you think I enjoy the fact that Jews have created such a large amount of trouble for my nation? Of course I don't and I can't understand why you guys do this in every nation you come to? However, as an American it is my duty to address and defeat such threats to the best of my ability. Do Jews enjoy being hated and then expelled from a once welcoming host country? Because it will happen if things continue.

Gentiles, eh? Well, guess what, a quick check would show they are in good company with bunches of people over there who are 'gentiles' claiming to be Jews although they may not be neo-Nazis, so you don't want to go there. As for American soldiers, well, they saved you and your arses in the past and still do; as for repute, well, they are probably on par with yours. How about it? Gentiles, he says, what BS.

An idiot would verify. I guess I could claim a Jewish grandparent and get in too. Sounds like wonderful security, much like we have with our Mexican immigrants. A handful, well, we will see. Pics show fine looking lads who should have stood out. Oh well, poetic justice is a wonderful event not controlled by man. Keep spinning. As far as my 'lack of knowledge, well, Ben Jabo, let's just say the breadth of the BS you spin is breath taking, to say the least. Regards.

American has vast open spaces to take in refugees, Israel doesn't...FYI, a "Rabbi" isn't a man of g-d in the same way that a Minister or Priest is...Rabbi denotes a "Teacher", not a holy man... Now for specifics from you, if you please.. Which Jews are saying that the U.S. is to take in "Every third world immigrant"...Specifics and verifiable sources would be required...Links appreciated...They're your words, prove it... "Jews here in America tell the American people that we must take in every third world immigrant."

You really should keep up with the latest news.. Seven are GENTILES, the eight was discharged from the army for reasons they won't divulge.. Another fled to Europe.. A few Gentiles faked Jewish ancestry and were granted entry under the law of return...Better life in Israel, you bet...They were given housing and allowances to get started...They thought they could get away with it indefinitely...Ha'Aretz isn't the only information source, it has leftist leanings...Those of us who can read Hebrew know what to disregard when we read HaAretz...What you?re really are unaware of is that one millions Russian Jews have arrived during the past twenty years...A couple of dozen bad apples, pretending to be Jewish managed to sneak in...Percentage wise, it's barely a grain of sand on the beach...Actually, a much better filtration rate than the U.S. has with illegal?s entering from Mexico, South & Central America...Many of whom have long criminal records...Keep it up, you're doing a poor job of advocacy?A little knowledge is worse than none, you?re a prime example... Of course, all American?s are fine upstanding people and our jails are empty

"Faked their Jewishness", you say? Now there is spin for you. Golly, Ben Jabo, you could spin a paraplegic's misery into something equivocal. Well, I guess they would be called "would be Jews". Better life in Israel? From what we all read in Haaretz about what is going on in Israel, that might not exactly be true. In any case, that's what Zionists get for trying to load the country up with 'would be' Jews to out number the Pals and keep their land. I call it poetic justice. Keep on spinning, keep on. Regards.

Wow "Rabbi", you sound very racist against Whites that are non Jewish. How could this be? You are supposed to be a man of God right? Or does your God only love the Jews? I am really confused by your comment. Jews here in America tell the American people that we must take in every third world immigrant. Even though most of them are uneducated, gang members. Who rob, rape and kill innocent people. Yet Israel shouldn't have the same sympathetic, open-door policy? Makes me laugh and wonder about the real intention of Jews here in America. In fact millions of people are starting to get very suspicious of what is happening here in the United States.

Sorry danite. Wrong again. I know you love to hunt anti-semites who use yiddish wrds. One of these days you'll get better at playing detective, one hopes. Or a little less lazy.... PS since you are such a great detector of fakes, fake-outs, impersonators and charletans (these are some fine words for you to use next time, since that old vocabulary seems to be getting a bit rusty), do you think the fake agitator hannah who pops up whenever the "anti-zionist" hannah posts is really cipora - as was claimed? And who in your opinion is the is (are) the impersonators of indrajaya, lakshmi, clickfool etc? And, while we are on the subject, I wonder whatever happened to good old flashman of the many names? disappeared without a trace... PPS are you the same as the Star of David? I know you are not gabe, BTW Of course, if you were a better detective, I'd take you more seriously. As things stand, you're making it hard by steadfast refusal of reason...

I thought they were wearing blindfolds preparatory to being shot...

There have been persistent rumors to that effect. One thing is for sure, Hitler did not look like the blond haired, blue-eyed Aryan race he sought as a standard. Lots of stuff on the History Channel about Hitler, more than any other single person as best as I can tell. On one segment of the history channel about Hitler, they pointed out the rumor and went on to say that Hitler had all records of his birth, birth mother, blah, blah wiped out to squelch the rumor. Wouldn't that be something if proven to be true? Mind boggling to say the least!! Regards.

Today's news revealed that SEVEN are RUSSIAN "GENTILES", one has fled the country, and the Eight was discharged from the IDF before his term of service was to have ended... Of course, all American soldiers are of high repute and not one has deserted or raised his hand against America, except for Benedict Arnold and the turncoats of the Korean War...

Who said they were born in Israel...Since most are Christian's, ship them to the Vatican... The remainder can be sent to an ice floe in the artic...

Seven of them weren't Jewish, they are Christian...Came to Eretz under false pretenses...One is Jewish and had been discharged from Tzahal before his service was to end...Another fled to Europe...Those that claimed the Right of Return only had to claim that somewhere in the distant past they had Jewish ancestry...It's difficult to check records of people that may have died 75-100 years ago in some part of Russia or the Ukraine..

Deport them whereto? These Israeli Neonazis are not only Israeli citizens, they were also born or came to Israel as small children. So whereto should they be deported? Is there any homeland for Neonazis?

And,the Fuerher [AH] they salute would have smiled and ...thrown them also into the gas chambers!!! Under the Nazi's Aryan Policy, one Jewish grandparent was enough. Wow, these fellows "really" have a screw loose.

Infidel killers make their own videos

You are talking absolute nonsense. Your talk of "ethnic cleansing" is repulsive. No one is proposing that Russian non-Jewish immigrants be sent anywhere. On the other hand, there is no doubt that there are at present some neo-Nazis in Israel. Most of the kids arrested have admitted that they are part of that group. Indeed, their tatoos say so.

at the quotes and accusations that you have you have posted here.It is your right to quote whatever hate material you wish and imply that Arabs can do no wrong. It is others right to pick you up on that.If you call people all kinds of adjectives do not be surprised if you get their backs up. Have a nice day.Don't kiss any horses.

Sorry Cipora for reproducing in the othyer context the judgement of your making. Just for the illustration of refinement of judgement: "The EU does not need to admit a country made up essentially of racists and neonazis". Hope it will pass the censor, because in the original forum it was retracted by Haaretz service.

This story is weird, but I think it's just violent male youth; pretty common. But it does show what an out-of-control, illogical (to me, being an aethist) immigration policy can allow. I think Israel is trying to get many immigrants in to keep the demographic non-Arab (maybe technically even non-Semitic). Another point; this story is big worldwide, and will help create sympathy for Israel. "See, even in their own state the Jews aren't safe... now, how about bombing Iran?"

So what does that prove? And what do you think happens in the countries where the Jihadis live, where guys cannot date women freely? Quite...

There are about 30,000 Polish people who are discovering their jewish roots and /want/ to be jewish. Let them in! http://youtube.com/watch?v=vswIfIMpoeI

This is just one of several neo-Nazi organizations now operating in Israel. This is what happens when bureaucratic machinery is allowed to grind along without any intelligent oversight. Ironically, Israel is now applying the same standard for Jewishness (1/4 Jewish) as the former Third Reich. And what if they link up with radical Islamists? Imagine the damage neo-Nazis can cause if outwardly they appear as Jewish Israelis, while inside they're planning the destruction of the State.

Who said they were Jews...In all probability Russian gentiles that sought a better life than they had in Russia, and faked their Jewishness...Israel didn't deny the Arabs their humanity, they did it all by their lonesome... Notice how Hamas & Fatah are still fighting with each other... You now have my permission to return to your state of hibernation...

It's happened before...A number of years ago, a Synagogue was blown up in Argentina, quite a few were killed...There are other synagogues that require security...Churches have also been vandalized...Although our religion frowns upon it, most IDF carry their sidearms at all times, even when worhsiping...Although I'm a civilian, I follow the old Boyscout Motto "Be prepared".. Let me express my thanks for your concern... Be certain, those that are doing this are doing it by night...They fear the light of day...

I am quite sure MAMA is dana, she has a particular form of dana speak,one of then is to use Yiddish words.Shanah Tova Jane and all the best for the coming year.

You hit the nail right on the head,thats very true.Regards

sorry Ivo, regardless of the connection a person displayes for yiddishkiet, the defenition of a Jew is one born to a Jewish mother or one who has undergone a Kosher conversion....full stop!

After readiing your response I could not control myself from laughing for more than few minutes. Were you serious? Are you actually telling the cabinet to pass a bill to criminalize Nazism? you dont knoew that nazism is criminalizd worldwide. Be assured, Israeli cabinet is not going to do a job that is already done in a different manner. You are overly simplifying a very serious issue by stating simply that passing a bill equating nazim with racism punishable by five years imprisonment will solve the issue being discussed. It is a lot more serious than that.

Hitler was a Vegetarian "Artist" with limp wrists and a silk lined uniform, who had an entire country at his disposal and yet almost never slept with any women. Obviously, the chubby whiner was a Closet Homosexual. And every country that tries to normalize such perversions, will be overrun by the Jihadis.

Guess you missed the Neo Nazi Rally in Skokie where they marched on behalf of your Arab friends. Israel has more Arabs than it needs and those Arabs would happily behead your homosexuals, while buddying up with Nazis as well. Now do us both a favor, go to mecca and tell them all you are a Gay Jew.

No need to hang them, turn them over to the Arabs and tell the Arabs that these guys are Jews. They will do much better than hanging I am sure.

Former Jews are Converts to Other Faiths, Whether that Faith is Islam, Nazism or Liberalism, it is to become no longer one with The Jewish People. Therefore, no change to the law of return is needed, it must instead be Better Understood and Applied. These Persons, Were Already, No Longer Allowed, to Return.

Unfortunately in Our Australian army we also have a few low life neo nazis does that make our army dspicable as well.The problem with neo nazis is they are like sheep who will follow any leader that influences them. I would say educate them but it is a bit hard to educate people that cannot think fo themselves.

Hi Ben, I recently heard a program on an Australian radio station informing how synagogues had been vandalized in Australia, and that the Jewish community had to have security guards to ensure safe passage into some synagogues. I am not sure who the criminals are that are harassing some sections of the Australian Jewish community, but I can assure you, I condemn it in the strongest possible way. It would be good for the whole world if Israeli/American policy makers were genuine peace makers. Cherio.

Are you the poster of #64? If so how come you have the right to disagree with what Rabbi Lazaros has written, but if I don't agree with his point of view or question something, I am labeled a Nazi or anti-Semite? Err, and about how you interact with others Peter, you often leave a lot to be desired. Have a nice day mate!

If Israel is better than the Arab countries and a brother of the Western world then these "Jews" should only be prosecuted for their violent criminal acts and not their free speech that israel guarantees like the US and Canada right?

The Rabinate in Israel has pressured the Govt to reject the right of those converted to Judaism by Reform rabbis to make alyah since they're not considered to be Jews by the Orthodox rabbis.In fact these people are far more Jewish than some migrants from Eastern Europe who lost any ties with Judaism even if they have a Jewish grandparent.They are Jewish by choice and conviction not by some DNA accident or the repulsive,extremist and backward unilateral decision of some rabbi. Nazi Israelis are the direct consequence of Rabinnical bigotry and intolerance.

Alex, I'll bet you are from mother Russia yourself. Smearing you former compatriots uh? Proposing ethnic cleansing? Sending them all to gulags for not being Jewish? Just what exactly are you talking about?

Dr.King said that we must love those that hate us. Mankind must live with each other. What happen to the Jewish people should not have happen but it did happen, what happen to us blacks in America should not have happen, we are starting to overcome our past and learning to live for our future. These young men has to learn the truth about what happen to their grand fathers an grand mothers, when they learn the truth about what happen in the death camps they will change. Someone must teach them. "will it be you"

Who are you to judge which law is good and which one is bad? You sound like a proponent of ethnic cleansing, specifically for immigrants from Russia only. This is very prejudiced and racist view. Not to mention that this discussion itself sounds like a lynch mob. These stupid misguided youths are presumed innocent till their guilt is proven in court. Remember? - You all sound as you are ready to lynch them.

This is a complete disrespect to those who died in the hands of Nazis. It is mind boggling to even imagine that there are such activities. Israel should consider its own final solution for those pigs that deserve nothing but death. I have visited Dachau and Auschwitz and I still am disgusted that the 6 mil people never had the revenge they deserve. Now it?s the time to drawn them in the deepest sea so their Idea of killing Jews or any other race is buried with them, never to be revealed. Lets see them for they are and stop making excuses for them.

Rabbi Kahane was right about many things...unfortunately the left did a hatchet job on him and the middle of the road Jew went along with them. He had the ability to see far into the future and see things clearly...the picture was ugly and he told it like he saw it. If people would have listened to him Israel would be in much better shape today. What can anyone say...he is gone as the result of islamo/fascists and we that knew and loved him mourn him...Choni,Shana Tova...may the New Year be a sweet one for you.

Thes people should be treated in the same way as Eichmann with whom they share such a hateful ideology. There is no excuse for their behaviour and there can be no room for them in Israel.

Me, and hatred for Israel and Jews????? Take it easy, brother. You got a huuuge misunderstanding here.

There was a major meo-mazi cell in Idaho a few years back. They left voluntarily. The people of Idaho tried every thing suggested here to get rid of them, but to no avail. They did however leave voluntarily when they lost a personal injury damages lawsuit stripped them of all their assets and property and income and they could find no welcome. These kids did not spring up in a vacuum. These attitudes do not develop overnight. Somebody should be lking at the parents and whichever adults have significant influence in their lives.

..I don't reallt understand how this is happening. I converted in a diaspora community for an Orthodox rabbi with smicha from rabbanut. However. Rabbanut informs me that they will not accept this conversion as they have redefined the concept of a Beit Din, which according to them needs to concist of THREE of their rabbis. So if they will allow me into Israel (which is unsure) I may have to go to another Beit Din, after which I may have to remarry my wife! Anyway. I do see the reason for the form of The Law of return, but if you are not hallachically Jewish, Belong to another religon AND have no wish to convert...I think you mat get problems like this. That said, it is VERY importand to remember everything that has been possivitive with the Russian Aliya, and not single them out.

These people should be punished then deported back to their homeland. Give their citizenship rights to Palestinians.

Ohh, it's too sad to read all the comments posted here. :( My documents are in the Jewish Agency at the moment, and I hope I will NOT be denied to come to Israel because of these stupid bustards. I pray the GOD to help me to go to Israel. Although, I am not 100%, Jew but I DO respect and I DO love this great people, and I DO love my father who is Jew! As for the problem itself, I think it would be good to make a bill that will make all the new coming olim to come through a kind of "test" for tolerance and general knowledge about culture, history and so on and so forth.

interesting sign of Natural Justice and hope for the Palestinian whose land stolen and given to land thieves through racist law of "return"? law of "return"? as if they have been there in the first place and they are just "returning" while Palestinian born in Palestine are not allowed to come back?? And continuing the confiscation of Palestinian land with impunity? It's so unjust. It's so abnormal. No wonder you are hated, you always have been hated by the whole world.

..."incident" which was a murderous attempt with an clearly antisemitic background. The man looking like somebody of South of Europe or North of Africa according to the Rabbi first talked to the Rabbi in a language he couldn't understand. Asking the man what he wanted he stabbed the Rabbi in the stomach crying aloud in German: I'll kill you, Jew! The rabbi wasn't injured seriously. No inner organ was hurt. He is well and on the way to full recovery. Full report in German you may find under http://www.tagesschau.de/aktuell/meldungen/0,,OID7437822_REF1,00.html At the moment the German Nazi-booties wouldn't dare.

If they were attacking Palestinians this wouldn't even be an issue. They just didn't pick Israeli approved targets. I mean whats the big deal? It's not like they killed children for playing near a rocket launcher. I'll thank you in advance for all the vitriol from the self loving jews. Considering the source I take it as a complement.

Alex tu es estupido o no intiendes inglez. Estes chicos no son judios pero cristianos.

I am glad to see you around. I agree that people like Pappe are potentially mor dangerous since they deal in ideas. There is nothing one can do about them except fight them on their own turf, i.e., with ideas. There are many problems with those who came to Israel, nominally Jews, but in fact not Jews. For me, the criterion is not necessarily one of religious observance, but one of identity. A person with just one Jewish grandparent might not identify with Judaism. The state should therefore ease the conversion process, while also doing a better job in screening people who want to make aliya. I wish you and your family Shana Tova and all the best.

Mama says...the Jews believe that an invisible force that created the universe has not only chosen them, but personally given them the land that they have....the Nazis believe that they are the Master race, and are destined by god to rule over all and spearhead a new era where the aryan race will take its rightful place in the seat of the world....how is it that these rug rats got confused? Mama says...no, no..

Unreal, whats next a Jewish SS?

pd: if you insist...I will send my owner to Israel

This can't be happening in Israel. Where has this society gone wrong?

The neo-nazi group seem to be a fringe of a fringe. Not that one shouldn't deal w/the problem seriously, but it isn't that surprising, albeit shocking. Why shouldn't that kind of crazies be found in Israeli society as well as elsewhere, taking into account both their immigrant Russian background & alienation from Judaism? I'd be more worried about people like Illan Pappe, an Israeli academic who openly calls for Right of Return of Pals, subverts the very idea of a Jewish state & thus influences many people. (All respect for him being a Holocaust survivor & I'm not advocating that he should be deported.) One could mention people w/fascist ideas on the Israeli political right as well. It's about what you overblow as a problem.

pd:...now hiding as a woman?...no matter you always my favourite.Love

The Palestinian movement of liberation is only anti-occupation. The Jewish-Russian who were given Palestinian land are SELF-HATING-JEW AND ANTI-ISRAEL. They may help the movement in their fight agains Israel.

So you are saying: "Even pigs were admitted"? Who are you yourself?

Yes, it's obvious that there are many groups out there who consider themselves to be "chosen," "special," or refer to themselves as "THE human beings" to the exclusion of other peoples. Regarding "MAMA": Maybe Dana has split personality disorder and is a whole host of sick and twisted people. I would not be surprised.

is, Garbige belongs to the dump. Not an other day in Israel, back to Russia, no ifs or buts.

..radio stations not caring for the lives of flight passengers would be checked in "Judaism" they would do perfectly well, right!? I agree in some way with #4. You have to answer in the language they speak and understand only. This nightmare would vanish in no time like the morning fog when the sun rises. But the laws are different and knowing this they misuse them for their perversions. And once again Dan, if real Judaism would reign in Israel those people wouldn't dare to breath the air there. Shas either. Both thrive on a society which has forgotten about her roots seeing no other solution to their own intellectual and spiritual limitations than "strong action". Same song in Israel like everywhere in the golden West.

"Ottawa..formerly Israel" ? what that's mean?

You import would-be Nazi Jews who deny your humanity, the same humanity you deny to the Pals. Some would argue that's justice. The Pals don't like it any more than you don't like it, what a surprise!!! Wise up.

The authors of the Law of Return wisely understood that it's the ethnic category that covers the Jewish world in modern times. In that sense there's no difference between people w/either Jewish parent, be it mother /father. The halakhic rule was put in place primarily because there was no other way (in those days) to verify Jewish origins. Not because there were all these individuals w/one Jewish parent running around claiming to be Jews. That's a modern problem. Whether those w/only a Jew. grandparent should qualify is a more valid question. What shopuld matter today in addit. to origins is a person's genuine identification w/the Jewish people, not just checking the halakhic rule. Halakha is btw about much more than who your mother is. You could just as well exclude all that live in adultery or don't observe shabes. A vast majority of Jews today are pretty lukewarm if not indifferent toward Judaism as such, while converts are supposed to present stainless religious credentials.

All people (whether Jews or Nonjews) who are disloyal to the Jewish nation-state, must have their Israeli citizenship revoked and be deported to Gaza.

Dont forget the Inuit which means The People, or the Lakota which means The People or the Cheyenne which means The Human Beings.The difference between the jews and nazis is that we dont need need to kill and enslave the whole world but they do.PS I am sure "MAMA" is dana.I can tel her "speak" a mile away.Regards

SM: "we must now take a long hard look at the educational system that produced such alienated and anti social losers." Israeli secular schools must teach Judaism: Tanakh, Talmud, Rambam. Jews must see themselves as part of a Jewish people, with robust identity and responsibility. Likewise, Nonjews must see themselves as Gerim, Nonjewish members of the Jewish people. Jews are the aborigines of Israel. Israelis must be fluent in their ancient world-famous cultural heritage.

Just move them to Gaza.

Israel has a law of return, so just return them to Russia! :o)

I don't know what the big deal is; besides Israel had a strong relationship with the White supremacists government of South Africa for decades. I don’t see what these boys did wrong, what’s wrong with maintaining the demographic majority through harassment and abuse of the minority? Oh, I see I should have read the entire article before writing this comment, I see the victims were Jews. We mustn’t have that if we start attacking Gays, Observant Jews, and drug addicts, who will be left to abuse and harass the Arabs?

O Gog prince of rosh, meshech and tubal, What are you dowing in Israel.

I have had the same thought about MAMA being Dana but I also think Nathalie Durson is Khalid and maybe they are all one and the same. No matter. Shannha Tovah to you!

Yes Gil62, Israel ONLY lets in "white people" - like the Ethiopians and B'nai Menashe? I am so proud to have Jewish brothers & sisters around the world. There are racist idiots all over, but Israel is no worse than most, and much better than lots of other places.

That is, in Proletariat disguise. The same Orthodox Christian antisemitism runs in their veins. They only found a new way to express it. As for the current Russian hatred of all skin that is black or brown, it is hardly surprising. Modern Russian culture was shaped as a racist response against the Mongols who once dominated them. As the Russian empire advanced further into Eurasia, the Russians were able to conquer their former Asian rulers--but they never lost their sense of inferiority before the Asian populations. That sense of inferiority was only heightened by a Western Europe that regarded the Russians as "uncouth Asians" themselves. Russian identity is based on this racist insecurity. There are Russian Jews who have transcended this, as well as Christian Russians, but this is the essence of Russian nationality. The irony is that today they identify with the Nazis, who were once Soviet Russia's enemy and regarded the Russian as another "Asiatic subhuman Slav."

Refugees left when their plan to steal Israel didn't succeed...There were hundreds of thousands complicit in the attempted theft... Neo-Nazi's are but a handful, swiftly rooted out...Don't overly concern yourself, the Neo-Nazi's will be dealth with in short order... They're a far less of a cancerous threat than your brothers are... Meanwhile, just look at the raging dispoute between Hamas & Fatah...They're Islamo FAcists of the first order....

Who said they were Jews??..Some Russian's managed to get into Israel by PRETENDING they were Jews..."Protocols", a forgery fabricated under the Czar's instructions...See how he was rewarded, they can't find his bones or that of his family...What he did to the Jews was done to him...Justice!!!

this is a first timer. neo-nazis that do not come from the european union - But the came from the former Soviet Union. Thera also many nazis in the former Soviet Union.

... was the typical answer of German parents when they had been asked by their children what they did (not) do against the shoah. Now Israeli police reacts, but what is with the parents, neighbors, teachers of those Nazis?

... not only from Russian neo-nazis, but from some aggressive "secular" Israelis who make bad, tasteless remarks when I (living in Europe) am visiting Israel and wear a kippah (an ordinary knitted kippah, with a moderate color pattern) - like "did you learn in yeshivah how to cheat me now?", or "what? back from morning prayer? dont you do that three hours instead of working?", and so on. So "inviting" neo-Nazis is not a surprise, but logical consequence.

You, Israelies! Your primary duty is to forever protect and defend Israel . This is the mainstay of your existence and of your future. This foundation is your most precious treasure in the future, as well, there will be malevolents, within and abroad, who will seek to deny your birthright. If one day you are compelled to defend your independence you shall not reflect on the conditions and possibilities of the situation in which you find yourself, in order to accomplish your mission. These conditions and possibilities may appear unfavorable. The adversaries who scheme against your SURVIVE may be the representatives of a victory without precedent in the world. By force or by ruse, all citadels and all arsenals of our dear fatherland may have been taken; all of its armies may have been dispersed and all corners of the country may have been physically occupied. More distressing and more grievous than all these, those who hold and exercise the power within the country may have fallen into gross error, blunder, and even treason. These holders of power may have even united their personal interests with political ambitions of the invaders. The nation itself may have fallen into privation, and may have become exhausted and desolate. You, the future sons and daughters of Israel ; Even under such circumstances and conditions, your duty is to redeem Israels freedom! The strength you shall need exists in the noble blood flowing through your veins. LOVE ATİLLA KARAGÖZOĞLU

Bury these nutcases face-down in the sand on the beach by the Tayelet. And use their booties for bicycle parking.

I don't care how long they've been in Israel. They disqualified themselves from living in the Jewish State and must be deported back to the FSU immediately. Their kind of filth cannot and must not be tolerated.

I see you dana.

It seems one of the few successes of the soviet system was their attempt to forcibly assimilate the Jews, into dernaged Russian proletarians.Now there are of course many fine and honest soviet jews, but alot of them come with the same heavy racism of the russians towrds asiatics and "brown people" they spew but now direct it Mizrachi jews and arabs.They come from a brutalised alienated european world,their is alot of work to be done.As for these little freaks, some lashes and a pane ticket would be in order.Imagine they attacked "foreigners" WOW

You seem quite defensive about the Aryan Nation. Is there something we should know? The "rug rats" you note have no relation to us, but they have proven to be your kindred spirits. I would treat them kindly, since they think like you. As for Jewish chosenness, you subscribe to nonsense. There are many groups who claim to be special or chosen, including: 1) the Christians who think they must convert the world because non-Christians will go to hell; 2) Muslims who do the same as Christians for much the same reason; 3) America, my country, which thinks its mission is to spread American ideals to the entire world; 4) the Chinese who think their civilization is the center of the world; 5) the Navajo who refer to themselves as Dine (human) and historically snubbed the Hopi and the Pueblo as less than human. The list can go on indefinitely, so spare me your crying. These teenagers identified as Russian and also attacked Jews wearing skullcaps. Try reading more articles on this.

How do you want to "eradicate them like a virus" if you don't listen to people much wizer than you are?

Israel must expel from its country russians who have born out and feel hate for jews. These teens are not jews but christians who want to destroy Israel from within. None jew would be that things. The victims of Shoa cry out against them.

Bring them to Neturey Karta.

But that's what it really is.

I guess you are sympathetic to those guys. They abused tho Law of Return but they are peace loving folks just like you.

If they was acting against russians, arabs, foreign workers or any other gentiles in this country as NRP, SHAS or all bunch of right- wingers, they would be regarded as a country heroes and protectors of great Israel against its enemies? Following this simple logic we should deport rav Ovadia Iosef and Effi Eitan as well and I really think we should???.

Is it really neo-nazi group? I mean pro-hitler-mein-kaumpf etc. or just some debile racists anti "foreign worker"? Who is foreigner in the state of Israel ? "Arabs", Jews coming from Iraki, Yemen, Egypy etc. In this case we are back in the sixties and it is a nostaligal but ugly group. I red they came from Russia Is is impossible to avoid an ansemitic reaction. Cause it is well known that "There is too many jews in ISrael" told me a taxi driver in Tel av. Well Eject these guys but forgive the Taxi driver - he was clearly joking - so I dont give his licence number. Salut lire ca alotd que je rentre juste du Negev! Could be that they are 3 state pf israel. 1 One in NYC 2 O9ne for the neo nazis 3 One for people codeine-addicted (Neo codion group) 4 One - regular this time - with a capital in JerusaleM and another one more exciting and real in Tel Aviv. Dont know Dont want to know ... Bye de Clod Dimanche 21H 15 t

You truly believe that Jews cannot be racist and criminals? LOL look at your brothers, stealing, raping and committing all kind of imaginable crimes... They sit at the court rooms in the black kipa? watch channel 2. Before you claim every Israeli problem on gentiles, look around, and you will see that kosher jews from different countries hate each other. Moroccans hate Russians, Russians do not like Ethiopians and Americans like no one. Should I continue? So, better look after yourself, and stop your bigotry and hypocrisy?

Watch Wait Learn. No more Nazis allowed on Earth. No love who care what they dink, smoke, hate, think. They will be eradicated like a virus. You also watch wait learn Stupoid America, leave your stupid ideas in your garbage.

and the Voices told you so... :)

http://pogrom.org.il/eng_articles.php?cat_id=1

Another modern day Chelm story. The truth is that these low lives would love to be deported so they can claim that they're political refugees while living off the State again in Canada or Germany. They can't go back to the former USSR because they lost their citizenship there when they left. Unfortunately, Israel is stuck with them. Approximately a third, or 330,000 immigrants from the former USSR claim that they are not Jewish at all. This is only the tip of the iceberg. There's been a gag order on dozens of cases of desecration of Jewish cemeteries and synagogues in Israel because it's so embarrassing. Instead of Israel being a safe haven from anti-Semitism - it turns out to be the least safe place for Jews to live.

jail them for life (real)!

make sure they study the Torah & Bible. That should teach them something useful instead of hate. Then you throw them out...

Twisting facts again! How did you came up with conclusion that "Israelis prefer Neo-Nazi Immigrants". Neo-Nazis sneaked into Israel much like Pal terrorists. Both groups use loopholes in Israely law to sneak into Israel. The former ones use The Law of Return and the latter ones use the Law of Family Unification or other laws like that. It does not mean that somebody "prefer" to have those loopholes. Most of the people that you call "Palestinian refugees" were never born in those "birth places". And you think this is very moral to "push them to the sea"?

These scumbags are a tiny minority of alienated misfits. If they hadn't latched on to nazism they would have involved themselves in something equally unpleasent and detrimental to us all. A few years in an Israeli jail will show them how tough they really are. There is a big difference between drinking a few beers and battering a tired foreign worker or emaciated junky mob-handed and surviving in a cell block amongst real hard cases who hate nazis. These bullying little maggots probably wont ever make a positive contribution to any society. If they survive prison what is left of them can be deported to Russia. If Israeli jail doesn't kill them a Russian one will. That said; we must now take a long hard look at the educational system that produced such alienated and anti social losers. If we are not careful creatures like this will come to dominate the future - Russian, Jewish, Sabra, Arab, punk, skinhead, nazi, whatever - the writing is on the wall. Just look at other countries....

MAMA really is an anti-semite and should be treated with contempt.

Not necessary to mull anything. Act expediently. They bring dishonor to the State of Israel. Be assured this is getting global coverage.

Esto es abominable, sin embargo esto ocurre cuando un estado se basa en una ideología de derechas y no duda en utilizar la fuerza, y no el cerebro, para hacer entender que son un Estado. Israel quería un estado militar y de derechas pues ya lo tiene estos nenes son producto del odio de Israel hacia algunos pueblos, mi esposa tiene madre judía así que no tengo nada en contra del pueblo judío, y soy mestizo así que no soy racista, sin embargo conozco judíos racistas ¿cómo puede ser? ese tipo de gente debería tomarse un respiro y mirar cuántas veces el pueblo judío ha sido machacado por las mismas cosas (racismo), y no hablo solo del holocausto contemporáneo sino también de cuando Egipto os sometió, Babilonia, España os echó por judíos y cuando Europa entera os masacró en las cruzadas. El estado de Israel debería ser el protector de los derechos humanos, pues tiene capacidad y poder para serlo, pero desgraciadamente no es así y por eso hay hijos de mala madre que son judíos y nazis.

What deliberate nonsense you speak. For the record, these neo-Nazis hate Arabs just as much because they are not considered white. Just take a look at how non-whites are treated in Russia today, as well as by neo-Nazis of all stripes. Nice try, Muhammud al-Swine. But no cigar.

The point is that even Israel can't control nazis within its own territory...so stop dictating to Aryan nations about this....these rug rats are just replacing one ideology of "specialness" with another...from a "chosen" people to a "master" race. The difference is that Jews don't like the latter because it views them in the same way that they view the gentiles....these jewish kids snapped out of it and saw the aryan cause as their right cause...I hope that the Elder of Zion do not hurt them too much...interesting book, despite if its true or not..but you compare what it says with how the world is today...wow! Mama says Oy Vey!

What goes around, comes around. The law of compulsive repetition lives in Israel. When the Nazi nightmare lives in the dreams of the people of Israel, they tend to repeat the behavior themselves. Treat the Palestinians like Untermentian, and low and behold young morons act the way they do. Don't deport them. Take them to the Holocaust museum and spend time re-educating them. Your schools didn't do the job. The museum should be more then a means to draw sympathy for Israel's domination of Palestine.

i would suggest social service with naturei karta for 5 years. or they change attitude or suicide themselves.

Having a distant Jewish grandparent who was secular or communist; or a grandparent that die before you parents were married et cetera: these are common circumstances in some countries. In my generation the discovering that one had a Jewish grandparent or greatgrandparent, or any distant "anuzim" relative was a matter of high pride and a connection with Jewish culture and intelect. But in former comunist countries with educational antisemitic policies, people with some degree of Jewish background were forced to hided, denied it, and even hate any association with with israel. When the situation en former URSS, was bad these disgraful people took advantage of the law of return to leave Russia.

this is definitely too much. authorities must deal with this issue prudently, and I wouldn't give up the deportation as a preventive measure (those people probably still have russian or other citizenship, even other solutions could be found). an intensive investigation must be performed, in order to prevent new outbursts of nazi hathred.

Go back under the rock you crawled from, it's missing you and we don't need you.

1) Were they Neo-Nazis before or after they immigrated to Israel? If it was before then what steps can Israel take to prevent future neo-Nazis from immigrating. If they became supporters of Nazism after they immigrated, why? Alienation? What set of events led them to become Neo-Nazis. Can it be prevented from happening again? 2) If this group had instead of hating Jews had been Anti-Arab/Muslim would they have been given the same kind of coverage/response in Israel? Racism is racism, no matter who its against.

Just with your reference to the Protocols of the Elders of Zion forgery, you reveal yourself to be a racist and an antisemite. News articles on these former ex-Soviets turned neo-Nazis make it clear that they only have a distant and disputable tie to Judaism and Jewishness. In other words, their neo-Nazism is wholly of European origin. Nice try, Natallie. But your antisemitism fails again.

I just wanted to thank you guys for allowing Neo-Nazi Soviets to immigrate to soil that neither they or their great grandparents had ever seen, while denying Palestinian refugees the right return to their birth place. Great job! You guys really are all about morality. I hope you can sleep well at night.

It is all used to divert attention from the real enemies of Israel.

Is Avigdor Lieberman in this one million? That's true there are some mixed families but their asestors are among Holocaust victims or survivors. Are yours?

It is so funny...even Jews can't stand Jews! Don't blame the rest of the world when you yourselves are disgusted by the whole Protocols of Zion. :)

"What a surprise!" If they are really Jews, then they have succeeded in internalizing the antisemitism and bigotry they were once subjected to in the former Soviet Union. Given the rampant racism alive in Russia these days, maybe they'd feel more at home if they went back.

If you deport them they declare it a Naqba and will claim a Right of Return for their grandchildren and UN will support them.

The Law of Return is essential for Jewish refugees from anyplace in the world to have a place to go. For those who have abused their welcome to Israel, Israel has a judicial system and prisons for law violators.

just for the record... the rabbi was first yelled at in arabic, then after having replied he didnt understand, sweared at in german and then stabbed. this hardly qualifies as "traditional german antisemitism".

Why England? Send them to my country. They will become advisers to our beloved president Akhmedinejad.

FYI: just looking at that picture it is very clear they are neo nazi's in future - look at boots (generally Doc Martins brand) with different color shoestrings specifically white or red shoestrings - guess since being israeli you may not know this but please use in future to stop these thugs before they do something do I even have to mention the skin head (hair cut/style)? the black jakects some of them are wearing is also a tip off if you have doubts look for tattoos as well I'm from USA so unfortunately I know some things about these types of a-holes - I'm sorry that this had to happen to you - the world is going to sh*t actually looking at this pictures reminds me of being in germany - thug gangs that just look ready for some type of altercation

I hope the judiciary system of Israel will rise to the chalenge : let them make tens of years in prison and after that strip them of israeli citizenship and send them back where they come from. ADL is a stupid organization .. they already finded some sociological excuses for these animals .. I hope people in power still think right so these animals to be punished without some kind of understandig : there is nothing to be understood here.

No explanation of "Jewish look" needed in countries like Russia or Scandinavian or Baltic countries. "Jewish look" is very distinct southern semitic type.

Can it be true that I agree with Effie Eitam? Maybe the Meshiach is coming... Sharon and others wanted to bring as many non-Arabs as he could to create facts on the ground, even if they were faking being Jewish, or really met the ridiculous standards of the law of return. There were enough wonderful CIS Jews who felt good about being Jewish that we did not need to bring in so many who simply wanted to take advantage of the opportunity. The meshiach indeed might just be coming if I agree with Ahmed Tibi and Effi Eitam at the same time.

Whatever legislation and law-is needed,the Law of Return must be REVOKED from these RUSSIAN NAZIS,and deported out of israel. The very raison d-etre of Israels existence is being mocked by these louts. Further to this issue i beleive we need a GOVERNMENT INQUIRY into the RUSSIAN and ETHIOPEAN IMMIGRATIONS -and a serious look at the JEWISH AGENCYS METHODS with pressure from USA jewrys money. WHY SO MANY NON -JEWISH RUSSIANS HERE !!!!!!!!!!!! Jack.

trying to have a bit of fun. Why all the fuss and bother? So Israel has neo nazis within their population, tell me a country which hasn't?

Anybody not born in their host countries committing any criminal offence should have their visas or citizenship ripped from them.

http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/09/08/950553-rabbi-stabbed-wounded-in-germany

israel is becoming the laughing stock of the world! unable to protect its citizens from a bunch of home made "rockets". can't beat a few thousand rag-tag terrorists in an all out war, deporting jews from their homes, so the enemy has a better position to attack us..... and now.... importing nazis in to israel! olmert, you must have heard where the pogroms started..daaaaahhh

quit disgusting, however every nation has its dreck and weirdos. it would be interesting to find out whether the rebbe thinks that these idiots were sent to israel to punish the secular and non halachalic israelis.

In the early 90s the Israeli state opened the gates to Russian immigration. It was well-known at the time that around 40% of those coming were not Jewish but they were white and relatively well-educated. No doubt they would serve well as balast in the demographic war against Israel's Arab population. Flash forward a decade and a half and we see the consequences of such cynical policy.

What was wrong with my post?? Nu? Do you see what else you post here?? Nu?

Great! Deport neo-Nazis! And if Israel deports neo-Nazis, who are people with disgusting ideologies, how about deporting real (not merely ideological) war criminals? Anyone could name a bushel of them since they regularly end up as PM, IDF generals, etc, etc.

Out of a total population of 17 million, there are over 1 million Muslims in the Netherlands. Gay tourists avoid Amsterdam, once a liberal city, because homosexuals are threatened and sometimes even beaten up by Muslim youths. Jews wearing kippas are molested by the same thugs. A young social democrat of Iranian descent, Ehsan Jami, has to be protected by the police for 'having insulted Islam'. And fellow-countrymen like Dutch Dirk still believe that Islam is 'an enrichment to our culture'. Perhaps very soon a few bombs will wake them up. Islamists with terrorist plans and preparations were arrested in Denmark and Germany recently, not too far away. And the Dutch have troops in Afghanistan... Fascism and islamism are just two sides of the same totalitarian coin.

2 million arabs, 1 million russians. 4 million Jews. The odds are not good. Seems this is a serious social problem in Israel. http://pogrom.org.il/eng_articles.php?cat_id=1

'Social activists' who beat up blacks? Look how these 'social activists' are dressed in the photo: It is the classic skin-head Nazi dress-code. Sorry you overlooked this detail...

the chabad rebbe scream about this 40 years ago and everyone laughed. now were eating the fruits of our labor.

OOPS! Finishing my thought, we Americans will receive the Zionists with loaded guns!

Good idea, Herbie. I, on the other hand and being an American, propose that you send them here. We will receive them with open arms. But Zionists are persona non grata. We will receive THEM

re: law of return makes a lot of sense, huh?

The religious have been saying all along that the Law of Return needs to be fixed. For that the seculars have denounced them as fanatic idiots. Is secular Israel NOW ready to listen? Nazis in Israel, what a disgrace.

No deportation, those nazis they must to go the prision and work all day and the night. No Democracy

NO, not all non-Jews are Nazi's, though you have your share in Australia...Read about them.. http://www.jewishmag.com/48mag/nazis/nazis.htm

Your country has a number of serious problems... 1.. Muslim rape gangs 2...Aborigines, who have their lands stolen from them and live under deplorable conditions. 3...You, who doesn't have the guts or backbone to full your human shield promise.. 4...Last but not least, your very own NEO_NAZI GANGS, a link follows, you can read about them operating under your nose... Most interesting, your interests are afar from your homeland and you can't or refuse to see what's under your nose... Now for YOUR Neo-Nazi's:: http://www.jewishmag.com/48mag/nazis/nazis.htm

What we all need to understand , israel included is that the world we live in today is not the world of 40s-70s.There are now so many societies that have such high degrees of alienation and disconnection, as to produce monsters in industrial quantites.In particular israel must remain vigilant about immigrants coming from such dysfunctional and primitive countries like Russia and the former soviet union.There must be a proper screening process for ALL jewish immigrants.Israel should remain open to mass immigration but some form of screening process must be implemented.Of course it would also help if the obscurantist freaks over at paranoia central(the rabbinate) were replaced with normal people who will speed up the conversion of the many russians who wish to honsetly convert.This alone will help shrink the pool of alienated freaks by making them easier to identify.As for these looney tunes, they need to be on the first plane back to Russia.

The European Union doesn't represent all of Europe...These neo-nazis came from the non-union part...So what is your point?? I don't know or care where you live...You should however, be aware that neo-Nazis are pervasive in many European Countries, plus the United States...

Criminals are also conscripted into the U.S. Armed Forces... What is far rarer, is a person, such as yourself, who commits themselves to become a human shield, and still keep hiding at home... You are the rarity, not they...

So Meyer Lansky is your idea of a Jewish hero. Do you really know who Meyer Lansky was? A notorious American gangster, a leader of organised crime, a friend of Bugsy Siegel and Lucky Luciano. You think that it appropriate to use his methods in Israel? The gangster state, indeed!

There are quite a few Jews, second and 3rd generation removed from their grandparents arrival in the U.S., that don't have the foggiest idea of what Judaism is all about.. In this modern age, an adept knowledge seeker merely has to query the internet to get a smattering of knowledge of Judaism... Anyone can pass the test, the information is readily available..

POETIC IRONY! I'm withholding the term, Poetic Justice...because this has to be "mind blowingly" tragic...for any group of people (though I believe that Israel/some Jews have, in part, brought this on themselves). Israel/Certain Jews (Many)-- Often embellish & manipulate tales of EXTERNAL threats/attacks against their Existence, Security, Legitimacy, Anti-Semitism, Etc....in order to manipulate the world (& definitely my country)...to extract concessions, non-action, if not support/blind backing of their actions...& wage attacks/campaigns to destroy others...in order to engage in often illegal, ill-gotten, inhumane & heinous violations of another people/theft of their land...the Palestinians. But, it doesn't stop there, as we saw with Lebanon (cluster bombs, etc.). It would be better for Israel/certain Jews, to use the energy used to do the above...to REALLY show concern for their Existence, Security, Etc....by making peace with the Palestinians (& others)! Tragic.

I hate to disillusion you, "Naturalized" American citizens can be deported with due cause...It takes time, but it's been done all along... Demanjuk, for one, is a Ukrainian who's on his way back home in the near future...

These guys are ISRAELI citizens with no other citizenship. No country is under obligation to let them in, no country must let enter a stateless person with a criminal record and no passport. They are yours and you cannot kick them out.

This is what you get when religious leaders try to make secular law. Citizenship without regard to loyalty means you will be exploited by the non-religious. Any atheist can convincingly portray himself as a faithful Jew; and his Jewish grandmother can always be faked. Tell your Rabbis to shove off and get out of the business of making secular law. Religion and politics do NOT mix. They only create chaos. No? What do think you have been experiencing these last few years? It is not the business of religion to drive the state, nor of the state to drive religion. It only means disaster.

The kind of activity that this boys have been perpetrating should be punished with extradition!

You hae the same situation in Holland...Except they'e called "Islamofacists"...Yes, your very own collection of Islamic fundamentalist's, have infiltrated your country, under your nose...

Israel be happy to deport the neo-Nazis to Gaza. They will fit right in.

HaHa, Maybe you should allow the right of return to Arabs. Then you'd realize what a racist country you are...

...the State of Israel, even no know Hebrew pd:mesiah now...' save Israel.Love

The arab citizens of Israel have the same rights as any other citizen. The USA revokes the citizenship of former Nazis and deports them.

The arab citizens of Israel have the same rights as any other citizen. The USA revokes the citizenship of former Nazis and deports them.

Send then to the UK immediately. Because they hate Israel, they will get tenure at English universities, even though they havent completed high school. They may even be knighted. Then they can stage protests against Judaism with Ilan Pappe on Yom Kippur

Sad is that neonazies with one Jewish grandad can immigrate quickly and serious converted have to struggle with jewish agency.

Law of Return for Jews. The definition of a Jew is someone born of a Jewish mother or a convert according to the tradition of Israel - Halakha. This would have minimized this and many other problems.

I urge real jews the world over to stop supporting Israel till they show they are not bent on national suicide, the idea that a kid who has one jewish grandparent can automatically come to Israel is absolutely ridiculous! they should only be considered if they are halachicly jewish and demosntrate a history of jewish identity i.e. no church going. Israel capitualtes to the arabs, leaves its captives out to dry and brings in over a million antisemites from russia to saturate the country with another million traditional enemies the russion orthodox. I have never seen Israel in a worse state.

You are right, believing in Hitler the same way your Palestinian predecessors colluded with him, he will fit right in with you anti-semitic scum.

Diego.... The group in the story are JEWISH and the REAL reason they are being arrested is for seeking a just and lasting peace with the Palestinians. The SHAM story of neo nazis was fabricated by the Shin Bet as a means to distract the public's attention.

Are you so embroiled in your hatred of Israel and Jews that you fail to realise that the Neo Nazi ehtic calls for the death of all non-Aryan people........i.e. all those not having blond haired and blue eyes. Guys.......do you still want them? You would be their next victims!!!!!!

The Law of Return already bars people "reckoned by the Interior Ministry to be a danger for the Jewish people" from immigrating : this is clearly the case of these scumbags. But it's also the case of - anybody racist, generally speaking - anybody who doesn't endorse the 1948 Constitution (this endorsement should be explicit : every ole 'hadash should have to sign it individually) - anybody who thinks an Arab Israeli is less Israeli than a Jewish Israeli (which is a violation of the Constitution) - anybody who spits on the State of Israel, on Herzl, on the values of Judaism. - anybody against democracy or Judaism, since Israel is a democratic and Jewish state. I lived in an ulpan for some time and I can tell you that there are too many 'olim who shamelessly belong to these categories. It's a real danger and if the State of Israel and the Jewish Agency don't get started on doing their job properly, Israel is bound to become hell very soon, 'has veshalom.

For Dutch, Marylin, Maureen Ann, Clickfool, Labhras, Lakshmi, Johnboy, Indrajaya, Viper and the rest of the gang. Now that they can see that they do have buddies here maybe they will stop being so anti-zionist and we'll see some support from the bunch of anti-semitic halfwits!

They are Jews and we can't ship them back. We should be able to deal with them the same way we deal with Nazis from other countries. We must accept responsibility. Lets see, how would we react if they were israeli Arabs? 6 or 7 may be 10 life sentences? put them in jail and never let them see the light again.

they are christian after all, bethlehem would welcome them

This is really sad. i can't believe it...in Israel this shit!? i am confused, i dont agree 100 % with jewish agency, i came to Israel to live, i am not jew-jew. my mother isnt but i start a convertion soon. coz i feel very close to this religion

hey Kibby, I have seen your site, and I have seen your posters on the walls of Florentine. As I told you I find your ilk ironice and silly. Just imagine the life of the grooviest of folks in Tel Aviv. Imagine the complications of them practicing their life-style under Sharia Law. Have I exxagerated? Just imagine how your stuff comes across. Your posting #55, comparing Nazis to settlers, is probably the biggest reason for your groups under-acheiving. I realize that you guys are in the business of creating a buzz. Your thoughts and arguments as deep as the glare coming off neon lights. But your group is the MTV or the Paris Hilton of the Israeli political scene. Shallow, angry types who spend their time equating French bred poodles with world revolution. If you would like to come across as serious and ISRAELI try speaking to people as if they intelligent and not just a group of over-indulged and pudgy middle class Cze Gueveras. go out and buy the T-shirt.

Can you please explain what "to look Jewish" mean ??

if its hard to remove them from israel then at least reveal their identities and make life difficult for them in terms of getting jobs, apartments etc.... if they are ex-soviets, their passport from motherland R null and void, but i don't know how it works if they come to israel from post soviet russia. Anyways there are others such a certain arab MK whose loyalty is supect, so here's more to add to crowd

This isn't true : all attempts from Orthodox Rabbinate to prevent guerim tzadikim (including orthodox ones) to immigrate failed. To date, any guer tzedek, whatever his religious stream, can do aliyah like any other Jew born from a Jewish mother. I personally know some who did. What is true, however, is that the guerim tzadikim who went through a non-Orthodox beth din have to marry elsewhere than Israel, and may have trouble to be buried in a Jewish cemetery. This is a pity, but doesn't concern the Law of Return in itself.

dump them in gaza and tell hamas they are double agents !!

Oh ho, Neo Nazis in Israel. This story has been gurgling and bubbling for over a year now, and now we have learned some of their names, and been given the privilege of seeing their faces and their idea of fashion. Young toughs, a peculiar Russian export to our land, dolled up to look like a tribe of acne ridden thugs. Check out the haircuts, or lack of, the rolled up jeans, jack boots and acne. All part of the uniform of an a-hole. Many eventually grow out of it. It would be interesting to offer up this scum to Putin, he is always looking for noble warriors. Or we could have them clean toilets for immigrants, at least until they "find themselves" and just settle into being unemployed, overly-tatooed deviants living off the good graces of those who choose to warm their open palms with a shekel or two. Throw them out, if we can, if not look for them cleaning feses and emptying their dinner into the backwash of an empty bottle of vodka. Sadly they have lawyers.

These individuals are social activists who seek a just and lasting peace with the Palestinian people. They are welcome to become Palestinian citizens.

Held by Arabs, Including the navigator Aaron Aarad!!!

and Ehud Goldwasser,Eldad Regev, aswell as Aaron Arad.

what do you mean all of Israel,there are plenty of Jews who been living in Israel for hundreds and thousands of of years. you are even more ignorant than these Russian Neo Nazis, howabout you keep these idiots with you in Gaza????

Stop the psycho-social babble! Sometimes people are bad because they have bad values. Its that simple. Poor people dont murder people because they are poor. If poor people become murderers, its because police dont care for poor neighborhoods and dont impose law and order. From South America to India, the world is filled with poor people who are compassionate and peaceful. Show mercy to people who show mercy. Dont show mercy to people that dont show mercy. Mida L'Mida!

How ironic, i can't belive it. Russian nazi filth and where in the "jewish state". At least the israelis can get a taste of how they treat the palestinians. Kick the nazi dirt out back to filthy Russia if u really want to tackle anti-semitism and if its not just about killing and bullying muslims.

If they would have read their idol's book more thoroughly, these Russians would have known that for Hitler the Slavs were merely 'Untermenschen' (subhumans) on par with the Jews, whose lands would become 'Lebensraum' (living space) for the Aryan Master Race. These youngsters are just your homophobic anti-Semites and racists that modern Russia has a lot of. And next time Orthodox Jews and secular machos condemn this neo-Nazi gang, let them think of their own sexism and homophobia. These two illnesses are not confined to the neo-Nazi fringe, unfortunately.

Any opposing Israel as a Jewish nation-state must have their Israeli citizenship revoked. Deport all enemies of Israel to Gaza.

Are any of you aware that this cell from Petach Tikva is not the only group around? My kids have been telling me about other groups of them that hang around the pubs & clubs in other towns.

If someone told me this story I would say they were full of crap. Several things need to be done. 1. Of course expell them immediately without dealay. Let them appeal from outside the country if we must allow it. 2.All citiziens Arab and all others must take a pledge of alligence to the Jewsish State of Israel. No Choice in this you either take the pledge or take fair market value for your home and belongings and or take this money and moved to Hamasastan.3. Get this left, defeatest and stupid Olmert, Barak and Peres appeasement govt. out now and bring in Netanyahu and Arens.

Dutch Dirk - how dare you call them Jewis - their mother is not a Jew - not only that none of their parents or grandparents were. Check the information before you spout your anti-semitic trash and claim they are Jews. iTS WELL KNOWN iSRAEL IS FULL OF NON-jEWS WHO FALSE PAPERS and claim to be Jews - they are the Erev Rav.

Eitam is right: Israel has become 'a haven for people who hate Israel, hate Jews, and exploit the Law of Return to act on this hatred'. What about several leftwing politicians and Ha'aretz journalists? I wonder, would MK Ahmed Tibi think it 'a ludicrous and outrageous phenomenon' as well that in Arab countries many citizens don't have equal civil rights 'merely due to the fact that they are' non-Muslims, women or homosexuals? And what was Tibi's stand on the Lebanese war? Did he cheer the rockets flying in?

I've came to Israel in 90 (from Russia) and was witnessing the Agency attitude back then: body counts! They will give papers to the pig, it just need to say it had jewish roots! Everybody was involve! Everybody new - Russian with fake docs, Russian with Cristian heritage, Russian with hate to all jewish. Oh, some of them were good people - it is not the point! Israel is place for Jews, NOT FOR THE GOOD PEOPLE WHO HAS NO OTHER WAY TO LEAVE RUSSIA!!! Our government needs a head count to balance arab population?! This is a price - now smell this!!! And it is only case out of 1000s that we never know - russian mafia, russian drugs, or just families filled with hate living in the holy land!

I am in utter shock, but I am not surprised. This is a serious sign that the infrastructure in Israel needs an overhaul. As for the NeoNazi Gang, tell them dasveedanya, and send them back to Siberia. But only after they serve their prison time. TNT, M-16's, and Knives - they should be tried the same as terrorists.

i found this article astounding, and yet i think back to one russian jew I knew in Melbourne who told me that he left russia for australia because 'Israel was an easy country to immigrate to but a hard country to immigrate from' and I asked him about the bono fides of the russian immigrants. he replied that Israel was so desperate they were 'only just drawing the line on anti -semites' well this article is in line with this thinking.

If the gov't deports these guys, they will end up deporting people because they are not observant enough,or don't go to the right synagogue, or don't agree with the PM or. . .

Jake sadly you are wrong. Neo-Nazis in America still freely gather in public, display Nazi symbols and shout Nazi slogans. has anything really changed?

I am sure there are plenty Russians who came in illegally, with fraudulent "Jewish" papers - who came for the "free" ride. Look to that source first!

A Professor We send them to you and you deal with them. You seem to have the answers.

Well, I'm an Oleh hadash from South America, and I'm here thanks the Law of Return, because my grandfather was jew. I'm left winged and I'm proud to be in Israel. I'm not religious and I'm not interested in that but I feel myself part of the Israeli people. I came here to work and to make a new life in peace here in Israel. Last thing: all you know that if anyone had a grandfather jew was sent to concentration camps. So please people who even doesn't live here don't make so disgusting comments.

Bill I agree with you a 100%, lets get this garbage out of our country. NO MERCY

I believe they can be shipped back to whence they came if it can be proved that they entered illegally or deceptively. If these guys are indeed not Jewish, why not get rid of them and let them live in a place more suitable to their likes and dislikes. It is obvious they don't like Jews. Slip them over the border to Gaza and let Hamas deal with them since they are on the same wave length.

There were Jewish communities here for thousands of years, in Jerusalem, Jaffa,Safed, Hebron. Even when most Jews were driven into exile, some managed to stay, among them our family who has ever since then lived in Jerusalem until in 1948 they were driven out of their house in the Old City by an order of the Arab Mufti. Our family were religious, unarmed, peaceful, Arab-speaking civilians. Still the Muslims drove them away because they were Jews/dhimmi, so the Muslims did not respect their rights. The Palestinian Muslims only respect people who carry weapons and are ready to kill. If you are so ignorant as not to know about the Jewish communities anymore, ask your parents. Those Jews' right to stay in Israel goes back thousands of years. If you do not accept Jewish rights that go back thousands of years, then how should we accept Arab rights that go back only hundreds of years. People like you who deny the Jews' roots in this land are lyers and discredit their own case