IDF soldiers say ordered to 'shoot to kill' at Gaza post where Palestinian girl died

I said "and they are still shooting Palestinian kiddies on sight." You CLAIM I said "if the idf were really shooting all kiddies on sight" I said no such thing. I did not say they were shooting *all* kiddies on sight. I said that they are *still* *shooting* *kiddies* *on* *sight*. This is undeniably true; the High Court of Justice says it is true; that kid came within view of the IDF soldiers. Those soldiers made no attempt to determine wether she represented a threat or not. They simply followed their orders - shoot to kill as soon as you see someone in that location. You, my little zionist, are a lying sack of s**t.

The IDF is the occupying army. Americans should pause and think about that. Everyone under 40 has been under a military occupation there entire life. Imagine Bulldozers tearing up your short hills mansion, then you get to live in a plastic shack. Next week they shoot your child. I know they deserve it because they are suicide bombers. Why don't we give them free F16's like we do Israel, I am sure suicide bombing will quickly go out of style. Why don't you people really think, instead of spewing your hateful venom.

None of this would have happened or be happening now if the zionists had complied with UN Resolution 212 that not only established Israel but a Palestinian state as well. It was originally planned that these two states would live side by side but the zionists knew that if they were to comply with resolution 212 then their dream of eretz Israel stretching from the Nile river to the Euphrates river could not be. It is because of this imperialistic dream Israel has not commited itself to clearly defined boundaries. Jewish people are not the problem . Sadistic, murdering land stealing, zionists are the problem and the reason for all of the suffering and turmoil in the Middle East.

the arabs,persians and muslims are the worlds best at starting bullshit propaganda.seems like your the only one stupid enough to believe what lies your spewing in this forum.how the hell can israel be the best at propaganda when there always trying to get out of bullshit muslim propaganda.hell they dont have time to use the propaganda tools like your heros do,even though your heros will,at the expense of children and women!if im blind its because your a lier!

lay off the anti-semetic crap, ok? i'm tired to death of this word. you're milking it WAY too much. not everyone loves israel, thats a fact. but if i voice my opinion then i'm an anti-semite???? get the heck outa here! hey, last time i checked, it was a free world. and NOBODY has died... so, you're not king yet!

what? we pals "don't" value life like you? what are we made of? are we stone? dirt? SAY IT! this is just like the ignorants who want to justify the occupation and the killings to themselves, by claiming pals are monsters, and are not "country-worthy", and are ALL terrorists. who are YOU to judge me? what do you know about me, my family, my history, my land? NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!! how DARE you think we are willing to sacrifice our kids for posters and media? a child is a child, palestinian OR israeli... israeli blood is not "worth" more. AND JEWS/ISRAELIS ARE NOT always INNOCENTS! a mother is a mother, and will always weep for her child, WHETHER PAL or ISRAELI! NO ONE deserves a heartbreak.

not like you! i've been sending posts -balanced- and still you're censoring... that goes to show NOTHING is neutral in this world. very sad :-(

dont talk about innocents!!! i am an american as you are... but what the US has done throughout the world under the fanatic bush jr. does nothing for people to sympathize with us! we kill and torture iraqis, yet we EXPECT them to like us and are surprised when they dont!!! get real! our boys are not so innocent, and NEITHER is our administration.

Let's see: - If a Pal kills thinks, tries or kills somebody, Israel distorys his house and his extended family's house. - If an Istreli commits a crime against the Pal., two things happens: 1- An investigation is initiated with no result 2- A declaration that it had to be the Pal's fault because he just happen to be going his buisness like trying to feed his family. Let's face it. Israel never left Gaza. They control all the acceses via the sea, air and land. Every Pal who goes in or out has to endure hours of humilating traetement at the border. Untill Israel realizes this, there will be never peace.

get your facts straight!!! NOBODY, and i mean NOBODY uses children and incidents for propoganda like the israelis.... you have to be blind not to see it. pals are amateurs in comparison. so can it!

What did the mother have to say about letting her child be in harms way around the terrible deadly Israeli thugs. My mother freaked the first time I crossed the street by myself. It is called value of life. Go on with your play by of trials and courts but the bottom line is the lack of value of life. Never have you mentioned the common point in all these similar situations. the day the so-called occupied people value the lives of there children the day most if not all these type of situations will end. We have all seen the directed videos of the Pals. If they could win an oscar the place wood be wall to wall gold trophies, right next to those lame ass pictures and tastless back drops. The next Paliwood feature should have a set director and stylus. Maybe then one of them could where something that matches. I bet you love youtube.com

it happened what? once, twice? and one time the IDF helicopters blew to bits the ambulance that turned out to be transforming REAL INJURED PEOPLE!!!!!!!1 BOTH SITUATIONS HAPPEN!but does that mean ALL people are guilty by association????????? *&%^

thats soooooooooooooooooooooooo easy!!! get out of THEIR land that you STOLE 60+ years ago, and I GUARANTEE you they will NEVER harm another israeli again!!!!!!!!!

then no one would have died either... gilad shalit would not have been kidnapped.... i can go on forever!!! when will you people realize that israelis are not above GOD!!! they DO make mistakes like everyone else who is MORTAL!!!!!!!

dont babble too much... you're not in this country, you have no idea what threat/non-threat is! you mean to tell me that israeli soldiers are so ILL-EQUIPED that they CANNOT distinguish a little girl??!! if it was an israeli child that died, 3 buildings would have been torn down, and 300 palestinians arrested for smiling!

The way jews liberated themselves from the British was similar to how the US gained independence from Britain. Surely you don't condone standing up against oppression? I suggest you read the novel "Exodus"

Come on, if you had read a few of my previous posts, you would know exactly what I meant with "Israel shouldn't have to be there". Israel has all my support to have a country more or less in her 67 borders, but that's it. She has definitely nothing lost in the Gaza strip, but I also mentionned that the Palestinian extremist organizations are partly to blame for that too. So I think it was as much a balanced post as this topic would allow....

"The security of the State of Israel is not part of 'the issue' " - Harry I never said this. Last time I checked though it was not the Israeli's living under a brutal military occupation. Do you seriously expect me to believe that groups like Hamas could seriously threaten the existence of a nuclear state like Israel? "When Israel gets serious about peace AND the Palestinians dismantle the infrastructure of terrorism" - Yes you seem to be only critical towards the latter. When has Israel been "serious" about an independent and sovereign Palestinian state? The answer is it never has. "The 3000 killed last month, however were murdered by fanatical Islamic militants...not US soldiers" - Harry when your silly government came into Iraq & dismissed hundreds of thousands of trained Sunnis from its army and began instilling in its wake control by the Shi'a it began this spiral towards civil war. Stupid stupid stupid move! Now how dare you wash your country of responsibility of this crisis.

Well,i wander what you mean when you say Israel shouln't be there?If Israel should not exist,why should your Switzerland exist!How different are you from those you call Zionists?Well,if Arabs don't accept the presence of Jews in the Middle East,how come there are Arab countriess in Africa including Egypt,Morocco,Algeria,Sudan,Somalia etc?Is it then not appropriate for the real Africans to demand an Arab free Africa,the same way you and your darlings demand the non-existence of Israel in the Middle East?Lets hear your view?Arabs and their supporters should realise that,they Arabs have stolen Africa lands and created countries governed by Dictators including Mubarak of Egypt.Arabs must realize that their own Arab governments are terrorizing Africans in Africa.What is the big deal with Arabs in the Middle East?

Dear Daniel, Your rules of engagement very simply permit a soldier to shoot anyone they like. This sounds remarkably like the rules the Wehrmacht operated under when they invaded Eastern Europe in 1941. And we know where that led to. Unfortunately, the IDF does operate under your rules, which is why it is a semi-criminal organization that daily commits gross human rights violations. It will take leadership and moral courage to instill the virtues of honour and compassion, without which an army is just another bunch of thugs.

- Ask your beloved Haniyeh what does it mean "to end occupation". His answer would be: "Destruction of Israel" (read HAMAS CHARTER, read what Haniyeh is speaking about). - Read History. Pals could have their own state in 1948. What they ddid? They started war against Israel, because idea of TWO STATE SOLUTION was considered as unacceptable by PALS. - Read ARAFAT'S biography. He didn't tolerate idea of Israel's existance. In OSLO PROCESS he promised to stop violence forever. "LAND FOR PEACE" was the greatest ARAFAT's deceit: *** Arafat and his Suha pocketed money donated to Palestinians for development of their economy. *** Israelis obtained INTIFADAH instead of PEACE. - Recent withdrawl from GAZA had some results: * QASSAMS over the border with GAZA. * Tunnels under the border with GAZA. * Kidnapping of Gilad, killing of his comerades. - Cease-fire with GAZA is constantly fiolated. And still you, Jew-Haters and Israel-Bashers, blame Istael, not PALS!? Don't be rediculou

"Israel has already "unconditionally withdrawn" from the Gaza Strip. All the zionists in these talkbacks have been telling me this over and over and over and over again; the Gaza is no longer under Israeli military occupation, hasn`t been since Sharon pulled all the troops out. Except, of course, there are still IDF soldiers there, and they are still shooting Palestinian kiddies on sight". Geez, I better adjust my meds...I must be getting delusional because I thought the militants were still shooting rockets from Gaza (a fact you conveniently fail to mention). Moreover, the chaos in Gaza simply proves my point. If this is going to be the model for Palestinian self-determination (the clan with the most guns wins the prize), maybe Israel should stay there until the Messiah (or the 12th Imam) shows up...whoever comes first.

"Withdrawal needs to come with negotiations with the Palestinian President on a final settlement. The issue is not just lines on a map but rather the independence, sovereignty and self-determination of the Palestinian people". Very interesting. I was under the impression that there were two parties to this dispute. Apparently the security of the State of Israel is not a part of "the issue". I have said many times that a resolution to this conflict will only come about when Israel gets serious about peace AND the Palestinians dismantle the infrastructure of terrorism. Negotiations for less than this are meaningless. "Three thousand innocents were killed last month by Islamic extremists - As an American you should be embarrassed and sickened by such statistics". I am embarrassed and sickened by such statistics. The Bush administration got us into this mess through deceit. The 3,000 killed last month, however, were murdered by fanatical Islamic militants...not by U.S. soldiers.

Daniel : "What is the Big deal ?" you say in referrence to the Israeli army murdering Iann alHams. You would not make the same statement if it was your little sister who was shot by the IDF or any other army.Your IDF 's job is not to murder people . Murdering people does not provide security for you or for the criminal state of Israel that trained and sent the soldiers.....What is the Big Deal? This attitude stems from the moral superiority that most Israelis suffer from . They say we suffered so much during the holocuast that we can and we feel justified and moraly superior in doing anything we want , even to kill because nobody else suffered as much as we did , and no body suffered a deeper wrong than we did. This is a moral superiority complex that Israelis ( Jews) need to forget.......It is sefl defeating and wrong.

listen fool,you might think you can lie through your teeth and get some of these people to believe it,but most of us know better.you can forget the bullshit art of your muslim brothers trying to make everyone feel sorry for you,or in this case this "child".when the pals put guns in the hands of 13 yr olds their not children anymore.as far as a tragedy,the only tragedy is this girls mother and father sent her to her death,knowing what the outcome would be by sending her there.pathatic fools like you should be chastizing the parents or whoever sent her there,but no,the propaganda is just to tempting for you,isnt it.you sick bastard,get your head out of your ass and open your eyes,were not falling for your guilt trip,dont make a damn if its kids or grown-ups.the murder you speak of was finalized long before she was shot,it took place when she was elected to go to such a dangerous place,by your muslim brothers never the less!

Captain "R" IDF Poster Boy... anonymous sadists in service of the pariah state.

DAMN the Pal parents for using their children as humsn bombs. Damn the Pal parents for making the Israeli military afraid of the children. THose on duty had to shot. Did they knew if they are going to be shot.

Thank you for the well thought out and nonsensical posting. When was the last time a palestinean court held that one of the shooters of random rockets was guilty of a war crime when it hit a playground or school? -- -- -- oh come on - the only "crime" for Israelis is that this was found out. they love leering at dead Palestinian kids.

Give back the west bank to who? It was part of Jordan. Have you heard any of the Palestineans ask to becom part of Jordan? -- -- -- was that the Oslo agreement when you were going to release prisoners, open borders and give back the west bank? still we in the civalised part of

kiddies on sight".damn johnboy,cant you tell a bigger lie than this.if the idf were really shooting all kiddies on sight,this problem would be taken care of in a few months.i think you just might be a typical lieing muslim,spewing lies and half truths like your brothers.i got to give it to u guys,you are masters of propaganda,no matter how many pal kids u have to send to their death!

"Another child used for propaganda by the Pals" - !HELLO! it is Israel's own High Court of Justice that has raised as dubious the murder of a 13 yr old Palestinian girl by the IDF. This is not a Palestinian source. "Just a little bit of negative propaganda" - What a sad fool you are to look at this tragedy as mere propaganda rather than the murder that it is. Oh well Israel just never ceases to amaze me, it continues to inspire so much international hatred and condemnation against it and dismisses it as a mere anti-semitic thing or Palestinian propaganda.

"How a rational person can conclude that an unconditional withdrawal will lead to peace" - An unconditional withdrawal is essentially tantamount to a unilateral withdrawal and unilateralism simply does not work. Withdrawal needs to come with negotiations with the Palestinian President on a final settlement. The issue is not just lines on a map but rather the independence, sovereignty and self-determination of the Palestinian people. A withdrawal is only part of the solution, albeit a very significant one. "Three thousand innocents were killed last month by Islamic extremists" - As an American you should be embarrassed and sickened by such statistics. Blind monkeys could not have done a worse job in Iraq than YOUR government with YOUR money. Do not preach international relations, you have no leg to stand on.

Civilians should not circulate at night time in a war zone. It is unreasonable to expect soldiers in a war zone at night time to allow non-authorized personal to get within shooting distance of themselves. The most directly responsible people for this girl's death are her negligent parents who allowed her out at nightime in a war zone.

Let me remind you...: The parents of the girl, 13-year-old Iman Darweesh al-Hams of Rafah, filed a petition to the court claiming that her killing constitutes a war crime. A Givati Brigade officer charged in the affair was acquittted last year and awarded NIS 80 000 in compensation in addition to a reimbursement for NIS 2000 of legal expenses. The officer, Captain "R.," was suspected of "confirming the kill" and shooting the girl multiple times once she had already been hit by IDF gunfire and was lying on the ground. [Haaretz 14-12] Doesn't look like 'propaganda'; it would if the body was displayed during a world tour.

In case you haven't noticed, most Palestinian kids are being killed by Rival Hamas/Fatah factions. When three small kids, siblings, were killed a month ago, non of you loudmouth Israel bashers had a word to say about it. Hypocrites all. Not one of you are demanding justice for the deaths of kids being shot to death by those hooligans rampaging in the streets of Gaza shooting bullets like its a huge turn on. Makes one sick!. I asked a question everal days ago which non of you so called justice seekers bothered to answer. Is anyone out there demanding justice, the kind ensconced in the law, not the kind perpetrated by rival mafia gangs, for the deaths of civilians in this mayhem?? Is anyone ever arrested? Tried? sentenced?. No, of course not. It's all for the cause, right?

I wonder why the court didn't take up the issue of whether the orders were clearly illegal. Who better to determine whether something is clearly legal or not than the high court of justice?

Israel has already "unconditionally withdrawn" from the Gaza Strip. All the zionists in these talkbacks have been telling me this over and over and over and over again; the Gaza is no longer under Israeli military occupation, hasn't been since Sharon pulled all the troops out. Except, of course, there are still IDF soldiers there, and they are still shooting Palestinian kiddies on sight.

The justices "rejected the petitioners' second request: that an investigation also be opened into whether these orders were clearly illegal" Would be rather nice to know the reasons WHY they rejected that second request. Because it wasn't within their juristiction? Because it was patently and clearly legal? Because they knew it would be illegal, and didn't want to rule it that way? That they were late for a round of golf? Anyone know why?

Finger-pointing, lying... Meanwhile, children continue to die. Let it be clear that the one who pulls the trigger is guilty in the first place. It does not exclude others.

please, do not make me laugh about it. NATO you are cetainly serious killers.. think about yugoslavia, rep check , irak. Do not make me laugh The IDF is the moral army of the world, they are all the time taking care of not harming civilian of children , that are all the time in the middle of the battle field. You cant talk about moral. Europe and mostly England were the pirtas and killers all along history, look at yourselves first.. does it ring to you Falkland Island? ocuppied land.. Gibraltar? Jamaica, Africa? You are the masters of ocuppying armies..all thorug history.Look at yourselves Shame on you..

It's right here, when you say "its job is to guard Israel and to kill those that threaten it." The girl wasn't threatening it, Daniel. THAT's what the big deal is. There IS an onus on the IDF - as it is on every armed force of every country - to ensure that it identifies that the threat exists before it attempts to kill that threat. An army is not a hunters club; armies - all armies - are not allowed to go around shooting people just for the heck of it.

The palestinians have shown their true face in Gaza with the withdrawal of israeli forces. They had the opportuniuty to become a good neighbor to develop gaza into SOMETHING other than a cesspool,but rather they have chosen confrontation, smuggling weapons and violence to one and all. Their corrupt terrorist leadership have chosen death and misery for their people...not life and hope.

This act in particular of course should be investigated and the guilty people should be in prison now. The important thing is the situaiton in general. When the arabs send their children to places where there are soldiers thi is bound to happen and those actions demonstrate their stupid and insensitive mentality. They send their own children to death. "We will achieve peace with the arabs when their love for thier children will become stronger that their hate towards us"(G.Meir). Think about the situation in a objective way, please. Do not be so silly. Stop arab terrorism and this will improve. Think about Amadhinejad. The world is full of crazy lunatic arabs dictators..

how sad it is when they use their children,just for a little bit of negative propaganda.it just proves how low they will go!

"Look at the way the IDF repeatedly stop medical help from reaching children that they shoot. Clearly they enjoy watching children bleeding to death". Absolutely. It has nothing to do with the fact that the terrorists routinely use ambulances for cover and to hide explosives in. Thanks for not mentioning this. It proves how objective you are and how much value one should assign to your posts.

The shooting of the child is reprehensible. (Three thousand innocents were killed last month by Islamic extremists in Iraq; equally reprehensible). As far as the cacophony of calls for withdrawl from the territories, I cannot fathom how a rational person can conclude that an unconditional withdrawl will lead to peace. The same people who call for an Israeli withdrawl rarely call for the elimination of the terrorist infrastructure of Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Al Aksa. If these organizations are left to pursue their goals, how long do you think it will be before an even greater blood bath ensues? The fact that the majority of the Israel bashers are so purposefully blind to this reality lies behind the assumption that they may be antisemitic (albeit unconsciouly) Given the utter lack of logic that they apply to the situation, and the complete onesidedness of their analysis, such a charge resonates.

And Israel wonders why it is arguably the most hated state in the world today - I guess its all too easy to blame antisemitism rather than acknowledge the brutality and tragedy that befell an entire people when the state of Israel was formed.

"Core issue of the tragedy is Palestinian terror" - WRONG this is merely a symptom of the tragic problem, that with the formation of Israel an entire people were relegated to the status of refugees. The issue is not terrorism it is Israel's continued occupation of the Palestinian people and their land, the continued thieving of land that is not recognised as theirs whilst depriving an entire people of their basic human rights. "Palestinians should stop the terror...if they want to live in peace" - And Israel needs to end the occupation and thieving of Palestinian land if it wants to live in peace. Why demand conditions on one side whilst the other is free to pursue its brutal policy of repression and occupation.

But not quite as gruesome as the photo published in Newsweek of the Israeli girl with the entire inside of her head blown out by the Hamas suicide bomber.

oh come on - the only "crime" for Israelis is that this was found out. they love leering at dead Palestinian kids. can I prove that ? Sure can. Look at the way the IDF repeatedly stop medical help from reaching children that they shoot. Clearly they enjoy watching children bleeding to death.

When I see the picture of that innocent little girl and think about what the IDF soldiers did to her, I just want to explode. Orders or not, there is NO excuse whatsoever for the IDF soldiers killing that child. Those men belong in prison. And if the courts of Israel stood for anything, they would be. Instead the courts once again turn a blind eye to the murder of a child. And to you supporters of this murder, do not even think about responding to this post because I will ignore you. I have no desire to converse with you. Rather go pray to God and ask him to give you back an ounce of humanity and human decency so that you too are angered and repulsed by the IDF killing of this little girl. Peace.

"Perhaps the soldiers should have been a little more cautious (but that`s hard to do in the middle of batle" Yes - let's be sympathetic to this soldier. He was probably scared witless by the terrifying spectacle of a little 13-year old passing by. And of course the man who finished her off by emptying his semi-automatic into her prone body, blowing her face off in the process, had to make perfectly sure she wasn't a threat to anyone, didn't he?

Yes, 1000s of lives could have been saved. If the Israelis left the occupied land and stopped terrorising and opressing the Pals population daily for the last fourty years.

was that the Oslo agreement when you were going to release prisoners, open borders and give back the west bank? still we in the civalised part of the world don't expect any better from isreal. Thank god you will never be allowed to join NATO or the EU as the war crimes tribunal would be working non stop to try the isreal war criminals. we would sooner welcome Palastine

Please remember the first terrorists in palestine/isreal were the jews. they murdered british soldiers and arabs the same way the idf is now murdering arabs, no change yet for the baby killers

Vittorio, you might want to look at the statistics in B'Tselem as to who is causing the terror - the hugely disproportionate Palestinian deaths leave no doubt as to who is the aggressor. On a personal basis, are you not able to see that the death of this innocent thirteen year old child was a completely tragic and unjustifiable act or are you convinced that no matter the circumstances, Israel can do no wrong.

"job is to guard Israel and to kill those that threaten it." And how are civilians identified as threats? Simply by being alive? "Perhaps the soldiers should have been a little more cautious (but that`s hard to do in the middle of batle)" Middle of WHAT battle? Your meagre attempt of exculpation heaps even more shame on your country.

"In case there were no terror, there wood be no need in Fence, no need in soldiers." - Vittorio In case there were no terror, the occupation would continue anyway - 40 years are proof of that!

This little girl should not have been there if she had no ill intentions. This conflict is anything but new. These people know where the Israeli soldiers are. This is only one of many attempts to show the Israeli Army in a negative light. Whomever sent her there knew she would be shot long before she srrived on the scene. If you are upset, blame the arab community. They can end this conflict any day. There is no secret to the solution. Unfortunately they will continue to create these situations and find new reasons to fight the Israelis.

Schlomo is right. This time a thorough and complete and transparent investigation should be done, with all questions answered. Those who would justify the Kiling of Iman should consider that they also lend support to the perpetrators of Malmedy, My Lai and Haditha. There was no battle. This was a cold, calculated act.

if you want to know the truth you have to read Tanya Reinhart.

and how do you propose going about your wonderful plan?

In case there were no terror, there wood be no need in Fence, no need in soldiers. Just think how much Palestinians lost when they had started Terror Attacks. Just think how many Israelis had died, how many Palestinians had died because of intifadah. Who benefited? - Arafat and his Suha who stole the money donated for economic development of PA. Shame on irresponsible criminal leadership of PA. Shame on HAMAS, JIHAD and other terrorist groups. Palestinian should stop the terror against Israelis, if they want to live in peace. LeIsraelim Shalom Rav VeNitzachon beMaavak Neged Mechablim.

Congratulations for your words.War crime;it must be judge now by the Penal International Tribunal;it is a moral need and Israeli society must has it as an ethical exigence.It is a CONDITIO SINE QUA NON to live in World community.But let`s go to Darfour where a lot of babies are being killed by Arabs and to Irak where Bush took lives of a great deal of children with an illegal invasion and Olmert in Lebanon.Now A principle ffrom this humble citizen who write this letter:IT WILL BE CONSIDERED CRIME OF WAR TO ATTACK AREAS WHERE THERE IS CHILDREN.Please do adhere to it!

Reading this judge writing such considered and hesitant words makes me feel confused: is this a sincere man who tries to make sense of it all or is he just a fig leaf for the disproportioned criminal behaviour of the IDF in the occupied territories. I think both: the judge is serious and honest, but he is part of a system-gone-mad, called `the occupation`. Once more, this report shows us how disgusting and how destructive an illegal occupation of a foreign people can be -even by the most nolble of people-. how it can lead to the degeneration of a whole national system: even the best of judges aren`t capable of putting things in their right perspective. Killing a 13 year old girl by orders of someones superiors equals to me the end of morality, a henous war crime. For a judge to seriously describe this in all sorts of legal jumbo is sickening. Not the judge is sick, the system is sick and the occupation is what`s causing the disease. End the occupation! NOW!

Apart from the fact that Israel shouldn't have to be there in the first place (the extremists on the Palestinian side are unfortunately not totally innocent on that fact, at least when it comes to Gaza), one of the main problems seems to be, that the IDF is often sending very young, totally inexperienced soldiers to guard those posts. Many of these young men seem to be totally overstressed with their task. If Israel is taking this problem really seriously, it should start to send older, more experienced soldiers into Gaza, who are capable to manage "hot" situations in a more responsible way.

Yes, the killing could have been prevented. If the Palestinians would have stopped their terror war against us, as they promised to do in the Oslo agreements, no one would have been killed on either side.

The verdict is what the civilised world expected from Israel.If you want justice, and you are not Jewish,Israel is the last place on earth you will find it.

I don't understand what he big deal is. The IDF is an army not a hunters' club, its job is to guard Israel and to kill those that threaten it. Perhaps the soldiers should have been a little more cautious (but that's hard to do in the middle of batle) but concerning their orders, there should have been an investigation if they weren't ordered to shoot to kill.

We are over 2 years after the incident now. There was this mock trial of "Captain R.". But at the the end of the trial, it seems like nobody realized that, even if Captain R was acquitted, there is still someone who is guilty. This little girl had 12 bullets inside her, and radio conversation clearly shows that at least some soldiers at the outpost realized before opening fire that she was a child. A serious investigation should have been launched a long time ago.

Here we have these judicial stooges blathering on about the "rules of engagement" and "special security zones" while the world asks "where do you get the jurisdiction to rule on the legality or illegality of acts outside the borders of Israel". These so-called judicial proceedings involving the actions of the IDF in the West Bank and Gaza never address the over-arching question - what right do we have to adjudicate in respect of questions on Palestinian land? Israeli citizens and pro-Israeli partisans may take some comfort in these attempts to provide a cloak of justice to these manifestly illegal acts, but the rest of the world recognizes it for what it is - drumhead justice.

now it is time to liquidate zioinism, this rogue entity cant be reformed , it has to be smashed.

Those, who issued this order and those, who obeyed it, violated not only rules of engagement, but also humanitarian law. Which means, committed war crime.