IDF colonel to settlers: Stop calling soldiers 'Nazis' at checkpoints

"CJ You have plenty of freedom of speech in an Israeli forum" Yes indeed, PETER SM of Melbourne, Australia, I didn't question whether there was freedom of speech in Israel. "published in Israel and repeated as often as you seem to wnat to do so." Yes indeed, PETER SM of Melbourne, Australia. "talk about biting the hand that feeds you" Strange, donations in support of Israeli charities feed Israelis.

#3 "There is no freedom of speech in Israel? What do they mean stop saying nazis? Settlers, non settlers, everyone is allowed to say whatever they want" Ok. But if someone outside Israel calls the IDF Nazis..... "There isnt free speech in Israel or anywhere else, what are you dreaming?" See above and do try to comprehend what is said. It's not that hard.

"IF these people do not realise what damage they are doing to themselves their image and the image of Israel something is very wrong" Actually, I don't think they even care...they clearly consider themselves apart from everyone else and superior..

Thank you for your post. The fanatical settlers clearly never heard the term "biting the hand that feeds you"...without the IDF they'd be in a lot of trouble, and rightly so..

mentally ill and indoctrinated to the point of insanity. They are going to yell, holler, cy, whine, abuse, and demolish anything that doesn't agree with their twisted beliefs. They aren't just a barrier to Israeli progress, they are a sad example of how much more humans need to evolve and how poisonous religion really is They truly believe they are better than anybody else on earth and some fairytale entity told them so in an old history book..so it must be true right? it never fails to amaze me how toxic religion is, and nobody wants to get to the root of it and say hey! wake up in their! It is modern day, you can become enlightened and free of your restrictive bigoted ways. but they are so indoctrinated I a afraid its terminal.No one will help the because they have fredo of religion....ya ever hear of freedom FROM religion. these people have been fed and groomed since before their birth to carry out some fantasy biblical recreation on Israel. it's insanity is what it is

I respect that you object to the behavior of these settlers, which to my mind puts you in a different class from them. But you are still living illegally on Palestinian land, flying the Israeli flag. A clear violation of international law.

That's certainly the question. Extremists on both sides are highly skilled at acting and speaking abominably and deliberately poisoning relations.

Even the White House references these articles. It's international appeal is two-way: it allows views in and out.

Interesting. There is one thing in which the settlers and the Arabs seem to be united - in their view of the IDF :) Amused

i am a settler and i am ashamed of the settlers who cant behave and have no respect!

Can't be an adult that has lived through the intifadas. More likely a 14 yr old kid with bad parenting and under a testosterone rush trying out new ideas. Prescription: an M16 butt across his big mouth. Maybe his dentist could explain how to talk to soldiers while making him some new teeth?

"There is no freedom of speech in Israel?" - Eli Colonel Niv did not have his soldiers beat the Settlers, nor were they arrested. Indeed, he only asked politely that the Settlers be as polite with the IDF at the checkpoint as he was towards the Settlers. I would say the right of 'free speech' is alive and well in Israel. What we have is a question of 'the right to incivility.' The IDF kids are not there for laughs. They are there to secure the border of the nation against illegal crossings and possible terrorist activity. Free speech is one thing, and hate speech is another. The IDF soldiers cannot be rude, and should not be treated rudely. That is all the Colonel asked. Was it too much to ask?

"If I said anything like that at an airport security check, I would expect to miss my flight, at best." - Jasper You would find yourself flying to the Gray Bar Hotel.

Those who view themselves as free men resent being stopped and asked for their papers, or to be inspected. I understand the response, though those simple acts at a check point hardly qualify as 'Nazi.' And I can understand the resentment of the IDF kids who are already inconvenienced to have the duty. Doing a thankless task for the unwilling is something almost anyone would rather not do. But there is something else at work I feel. That is the attitudes of the Settlers whom see themselves as superior and what may be a growing resentment by Israelis who suffer embarrassment and inconvenience as a result of that arrogance. It is the Settlers who make the checkpoint necessary. And it is they who feel they should be without inconvenience for the sake of the safety of Israelis. Perhaps the wise thing for Israel would be to close the checkpoint, thus eliminating the 'nazi' behavior which so annoys the Settlers, while making Israel safer, and letting the IDF do something less annoying.

themselves their image and the image of Israel something is very wrong.

went up to a squaddie in the bad old days and called him a Nazi or a splendid British chappie with an Oxford accent did,would the result be the same then or even now?

published in Israel and repeated as often as you seem to wnat to do so. talk about biting the hand that feeds you.

Either the setler know something we don't... or the isreali education system failed to teach them jewish and zionist history..!! First it was ok for settler to hate and kill innocent palis, looks like now they are turning against the IDF....

The settlers don't want to leave? Leave them to their own devices and their own resorts, without IDF protection. Then they'll beg to be evacuated.

...let them deal with Fatah and their Arab neighbors on their own. What audacity it takes to call Nazis, the young children of the State - those in the IDF - who put their lives in harm's way for these irate selfish lunatics. These people don't serve, support or have any substantial investment in Israel. They are a crippling wound in the arm Israel uses to defend herself and an ugly scar on her face to present to the international community. Let Israel direct her soldiers to a more worthy cause.

Just for once, we agree!

Free speach comes with responcibility. Slander should be against the law. Your speach is free as long as the slander does not harm others? You can not call fire out in a crowded movie theater. You can not threaten others with bodily harm.

"IIf you want total security, live in a prison." - Dwight Eisenhowe, General USA, ret.

... a settler would become so disoriented that he would say anything like that. If I said anything like that at an airport security check, I would expect to miss my flight, at best.

There isnt free speech in Israel or anywhere else, what are you dreaming?

Since many Jewish residents pass through from many other communities, how do they know they are from KS? How many incidents like this happen, although even one would p*ss me off? Why don't the police check for criminal offenses?

Here's the IDF Colonel politely asking the settlers to stop calling his men Nazis. What is he, a man or a mouse? I've worked in war zones and spent time at checkpoints. If I'd have called the soldiers there Nazis, for doing their job, I could have expected to be delayed for many hours, while the soldiers did everythiing they could possibly think of to delay me, or alternatively they might just have decided to hit me, or tear up my papers, or something friendly like that. I'm gussing that's the kind of treatment Pals would get if they called IDF soldiers at a checkpoint Nazis to their face. So who's in charge in the West Bank? The IDF or the settlers? Well I guess we all know the answer to that one.

Amazing that settlers call the IDF Nazis, when the term reality should only be applied to how the Palestinian population is treated in relation to their oppressive occupiers. The settlers are not oppressed, nor are they victims. They are the ones who victimize others along with the Israeli army who seem to know no bounds to their cruelty.

There is no freedom of speech in Israel? What do they mean stop saying nazis? Settlers, non settlers, everyone is allowed to say whatever they want.

Ok let me see now. I pay all of my Israeli taxes, have an Israeli Jerusalem ID but am stopped/checked at every checkpoint. I also have to pull my trousers down at Ben Gurion airport security checks every time I fly outside this country. With all of the above I would find it very hard to call an Israeli soldier a Nazi. So please dont blame me if I think all of this " settlement freeze" is bull .... since there is no way they- the far right and settlers all in one bag- will stop the settlements. What a disaster the Israeli society is falling into. All of this hatred . Where does it come from??