• Published 00:00 30.11.07
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High Court orders state to delay planned power cuts to Gaza

In response to rights groups' petitions, court rules Israel must present full plan details before implementation.

By Yuval Yoaz Tags: Gaza Israel High Court

The High Court of Justice on Sunday ordered the state to delay its reduction of power supplies to the Gaza Strip by at least one week, pending a full presentation detailing the proposed operation.

The court's interim decision follows petitions by 10 human rights groups against the state's plan to reduce supplies of electricity, gasoline and diesel fuel to the coastal territory.

Defense Minister Ehud Barak approved the plan in late October, thereby accepting the defense establishment's recommendation to impose economic sanctions on the Gaza Strip in response to continued Qassam rocket attacks by Palestinian militants on southern Israel.

Despite Friday's court order, the justices upheld the state's plan to reduce fuel transfers to the Strip, as long as the humanitarian needs of Gaza's residents were given primary consideration.

"We were not convinced that the decision by [the state] to limit the amount of fuel transferred to the Gaza Strip harms, at this point, vital humanitarian needs in the Strip," the three-judge panel wrote in their decision.

Sari Bashi of Gisha, one of the groups spearheading the court appeal, said Friday in respose to the decision, "We welcome the delay in electricity cuts and expect that at the end of the day the court will prevent the military from cutting electricity to Gaza, but we are concerned about the court's failure to intervene in the fuel cuts."

Attorney Hassan Jabareen, general director of Adalah: The Legal Center for Arab Minority Rights in Israel, said in response to the decision that, "The Supreme Court's ruling which confirms the Israeli government's decision to cut the supplies of fuel to Gaza violates the basic principles of international humanitarian law. Today, they will cut the fuel and tomorrow, they might cut some of the food. The Court's decision to halt cuts to the electricity for 12 days might be perceived as an achievement but it is partial and temporary."

Israel has said the electricity cuts will be minor and will not cause harm to installations like hospitals, water pumps and sewage plants. But Bashi said the step would cause humanitarian damage.

"Any intentional reduction in vital services to Gaza residents who cannot receive fuel, electricity or other goods except from Israel constitutes illegal collective punishment," Bashi said.

Government spokesman David Baker defended the government policy Friday, calling it a non-lethal means for Israel to send a message to those responsible for the rocket fire from Gaza.

"We will not accept this threat to Israeli towns and civilians, and we will take all steps necessary to protect them," Baker said.

Gaza's private fuel companies have decided not to accept the reduced shipments as a way to protest the cutbacks, allowing only vital cooking gas into Gaza, said Mahmoud al-Shawa, head of a consortium of Gaza petroleum companies. The power plant that provides a portion of Gaza's electricity has continued to receive fuel, he said, but the companies that run Gaza's gas stations and sell to private consumers have refused all shipments since Wednesday.

"We refuse to accept this. That will mean we are participating in a disaster," he said, adding that more than 100 of Gaza's 150 gas stations have already shut down because of the shortages.

Trucks and cars lined up Friday at the few open gas stations in Gaza City. Some stations covered their pumps with blankets or plastic bags.

In the southern Gaza Strip town of Rafah, Hassan Abu Taha said he closed his gas station to maintain some diesel reserves, but was ordered to reopen by Hamas security forces.

Ismail Haniyeh, deposed Palestinian Authority prime minister, told reporters after Friday prayers that fuel levels in Gaza have reached critical levels, and accused Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas of colluding with Israel on the matter.

The state's plan has come under attack by Palestinian Authority leaders, who have called for international intervention on the matter. The European Union and United Nations responded by urging Israel to reconsider the sanctions.

The main component of the plan involves temporary disruptions to the electricity supply to different parts of the Gaza Strip, but not to essential institutions, such as hospitals.

Soon after Barak's approval, Israel began to cut off shipments of fuel to the coastal territory.

At the same time, Attorney General Menachem Mazuz temporarily prohibited the state from cutting off electricity to parts of the Gaza Strip, as was outlined in the plan adopted earlier by the defense establishment. The attorney general said that the plan must be examined further before such a measure can be implemented without causing a humanitarian crisis, as the prime minister had promised a week earlier not to do.

The High Court two weeks ago ordered the state to present data affirming that the move would not affect the humanitarian needs of the civilian population of the Gaza Strip.

The Israel Defense Forces responded with an affadavit maintaining that the decision to cut fuel supplies did not violate its responsibility to provide humanitarian services to Gaza residents.

The decision on utilizing economic sanctions as punishment for continued rocket attacks on Israel from the Gaza Strip had originally been approved by the cabinet, on the condition that it would be legally sanctioned. Of particular concern was the issue of proportionality, and on this basis, certain parameters were developed on the kind of sanctions that could be imposed on civilians, without violating basic humanitarian needs.

Defense sources had said that the sanctions would be carried out on a weekly basis and will not be directly or immediately linked to the number or frequency of rocket attacks.

Electrical poles in the Gaza Strip (AP)

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  • 90. 0 0
    # 62. human rights groups?
    • Glen
    • 30.01.08
    • 15:55

    Because they are members of Hamass, PLO, Lefist Groups, Genocide Promoters of the UN!!! Israel will DIE if it follows International UN Law.

  • 89. 0 0
    The court should also order a halt to the rockets!
    • Shlomo
    • 13.12.07
    • 23:00

    The court ruling should be contingent on the cessation of the rocket attacks. If the cessation cannot be enforced, then neither should the electricity cuts. I think it's safe to conclude that electrity is being directly or indirectly used to fuel the rockets. By indirect use, I mean electricity is used to free up other resources.

  • 88. 0 0
    #72, Lynn...
    • Silvienne
    • 03.12.07
    • 01:49

    "more Pals die and you just keep supporting the stupidity of that. If you are a friend of Pals, you wouldn`t want their deaths. God help them with friends like you" Should I support the idea of the Palestinians agreeing to Israeli overlordship for ever? Israel wants the death of the Palestinians, not me. Obviously enough, because it is Israel who is killing them. God help the Palestinians with neighbours like Israel.

  • 87. 0 0
    letter to the palestinians & haniyeh
    • joop jansen
    • 02.12.07
    • 10:32

    xxx, The Netherlands 22th November 2007 Dear citizens of besieged Gaza, You, the citizens of Gaza, are engaged in a decades long struggle for your freedom and your inalienable rights, as enshrined in international law. Border crossings are tightly closed, preventing essential supplies of food, oil and medicines to arrive in Gaza. Under these conditions, your plight is being made even worse than before. This letter is meant to let you know that these developments do not go unnoticed in The Netherlands. We are abhorred, not only by the worsening living conditions, but also by the present utter lack of justice and, indeed, of a decent future for yourselves and your children. Through this letter, we also want to assure all of you of the unconditional support of citizens of The Netherlands. We support you in your fight for freedom, for independence and for peace. We defend your right to live under the principles and rules of international law. Do not presume that we are just a few.

  • 86. 0 0
    Yonatan - the simple solution
    • Mark Lincoln
    • 02.12.07
    • 03:42

    Yonatan, you need not engage in flights of fancy or fantasy. There is a very simple and totally inclusive action which Israel could take which would easily allow all of your most sadistic fantasies. All Israel need to do is end it's status as the "Occupying Power." When Israel renounces that status, then Palestine will become a foreign nation. At that point then Israel will have every right to practice "collective punishment" of Palestinians. It is ONLY Israel, who reuses to treat Palestine as an independent nation. It is ONLY Israel who demands that it retain the status of "Occupying Power." No one besides Israel stands in the way of fulfilling your sadistic fantasies. Give up the status of Occupying Power and Israel can easily and without consequence do anything it wants to the Palestinians. It is only Israel that demands the power over Palestine that makes it subject to being a war criminal.

  • 85. 0 0
    #52 Rick, Israel, the IHCJ, and the Geneva Conventions
    • Johnboy
    • 02.12.07
    • 03:10

    R: "Your Supreme Court is trying to enforce Intenational law adopted by Israel so that it is now Israeli law." Rick, just to correct you here. The IHCJ says there that there is a difference between: 1) Treaty Law 2) International Customary Law Customary Law simply *is*, and requires no signature nor ratification from the state. It is also automatically part of Israeli domestic law. Treaty Law is different; it is a matter between nations, and neither signing nor ratifying a treaty automatically incorporates it into Israeli *domestic* law. So, basically, the IHCJ has jurisdiction to rule on CUSTOMARY law (e.g. the Hague Regs), but not necessarily on TREATY LAW (e.g. GCIV) if the Knesset has not enabled it into domestic Israeli law - which, of course, it keeps (conveniently) forgetting to do. So any argument to the IHCJ regarding the applicability of GCIV to the occupied territories is always met with a "the issue is not before us" from the court.

  • 84. 0 0
    83swiftophile,it's water,water everywhere,but not a drop to drink
    • lakshmi
    • 02.12.07
    • 00:56

    from Coleridge's Rime of the Ancient Mariner.But be careful for two reasons: 1.It is against international humanitarian law. 2.what goes around,comes around.

  • 83. 0 0
    a suggestion for when cut fails
    • swiftophile
    • 01.12.07
    • 23:26

    the cut has a certain pleasing effect,but it's not going to make a drastic change.we need a telephone cut as a preliminary to the mother of all cuts-which is absolutely guaranteed to achieve whatever it is we're trying to achieve.winter-time is ideal for electro-yok,but for the ultimate summertime blues,there's nothing like a water-cut.everyone becomes extremely amenable after a short water -cut.in the words of a great poet:water,water nowhere and all the gazawis did shriek.

  • 82. 0 0
    of all you pro- cut could one tell me
    • what's in it for me
    • 01.12.07
    • 23:13

    what advantage does israel gain?what interest does a cut serve?is there any measure you can think of that will stop this war?can we expect a much quieter western front 6-12 months after the cut?we'll see for sure.

  • 81. 0 0
    Solving the Gaza fuel and ower problem
    • Yonatan
    • 01.12.07
    • 22:16

    Hamas and other terorist organizations have smuggled vast amounts of explosives and other materiel into Gaza. Perhaps they can find some way of using these explosives to run power stations and motor vehicles?

  • 80. 0 0
    # 47 maryRose, Arafat and Arabs have been trying many things ..
    • Max the Horoscope
    • 01.12.07
    • 21:29

    through back door both in politics , negotiations with Israel and private life. Thats why he was HIV infected and died of a AIDS. guys are shunned, prosecuted and killed by Moslems including among Arabs on WB and Gaza. Yet those clueless West bankers and gazan adored Arafat as a hero, while he was robbing them blind and leading nowhere close to an independent state. Now they vote with a 60% majority for Isalmists called Hamas. They cannot bring themself to think and live like most other people in this world. They will wait for an independent state on WB "till the cows come home". For those unfamiliar with this english expression: FOREVER and EVER. The Most Stupid "Freedom Movement" in modern history Ref. Amos Oz, writer and founder of Peace Now. How right he is !

  • 79. 0 0
    Israel can resolve the issue easily
    • Mark Lincoln
    • 01.12.07
    • 21:23

    All Israel need do is request that it be relieved of the status of Occupying Power by the UN and stop exercising the prerogatives of an Occupying Power. Then Israel could cut off all electricity without engaging in war crimes.

  • 78. 0 0
    US Observer - skepticism is necessary
    • Mark Lincoln
    • 01.12.07
    • 21:21

    All media must be evaluated with an open and skeptical mind. The left in Israel evaporated after the Likudnik took down Rabin. In the US the left slid into impotence 30 years ago in an orgy of lunacy such as "black english" and cars that wouldn't start unless you sat on a buckled seat belt. As neither has a voice, or an audience, then Haaretz and the NY Times simply print the latest babble of the right and after it is revealed to be twaddle might venture to say 'tsk, tsk, naught boys". But that does not mean you can't gain useful information from them. Rather it is necessary to read very carefully and consistently to gain that information. Because of military censorship, Haaretz cannot publish much of what happens on the West Bank. Because of corporate censorship, we in America don't hear what is uncomfortable for those corporations.

  • 77. 0 0
    MaryRose, The Fourth Geneva Convention
    • Dutch
    • 01.12.07
    • 20:45

    The important thing is Israel ratified the Fourth Geneva Convention in 1952 and its army's conduct and activities in the Palestinian terrirtories are directly accountable under it and international law. This ruling was also deemed by a panel of 14 justices at the Inter-national Court of Justice in 2005 in a unanimous vote, 14-0. Dutch

  • 76. 0 0
    Lakshmi, Re:The vile siege on Gaza
    • Dutch
    • 01.12.07
    • 20:23

    Hello lakshmi, Peace and justice groups in the US and other groups around the world will be highlighting Israel's cruel and unlawful siege on Gaza in the comiing weeks. The vile occupiers will be further exposed then. (Did you see? http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_25526.shtml ) Turn up the sound track on your PC for this. Dutch

  • 75. 0 0
  • 74. 0 0
    Admirable Decision
    • BV
    • 01.12.07
    • 19:44

    Israel has couragous judges and a high sens of Justice. Bravo.

  • 73. 0 0
    US Observer...US media serves their own agendas
    • Lynn
    • 01.12.07
    • 18:59

    Ain't it the truth!!

  • 72. 0 0
    # 56 Silvienne and hatred for the Pals in Gaza
    • Lynn
    • 01.12.07
    • 18:46

    more Pals die and you just keep supporting the stupidity of that. If you are a friend of Pals, you wouldn't want their deaths. God help them with friends like you.

  • 71. 0 0
    The High Court saving Israel
    • Mark Lincoln
    • 01.12.07
    • 17:32

    The High Court is saving Israel from committing a war crime for the pleasure of doing so. This should be applauded, not deplored. Just because some sadists see political gain in committing war crimes does not mean it is good for the nation. Look what the Bush Junta did to the reputation of the United States at Abu Graib.

  • 70. 0 0
    Henry you are devious
    • Margie in Tel Aviv
    • 01.12.07
    • 14:23

  • 69. 0 0
    WHAT THIS SO CALLED "HIGH COURT" WANTED?
    • indrajaya
    • 01.12.07
    • 12:16

    Israeli "High Court" has no authority whatsoever to delay or to confirm power cuts to GAZA.

  • 68. 0 0
    Dutch re #47 When did the Palestinians sign
    • MaryRose
    • 01.12.07
    • 11:17

    the Geneva Convention? Arafat tried for backdoor recognition from the UN by sending a document indicating that they wanted to sign, but the UN refused to accept because he wasn't head of a state.

  • 67. 0 0
    #49 Many of the outlaws in the US are gone ...
    • Dutch
    • 01.12.07
    • 10:18

    Many of the outlaws in the US are gone --due to never return. Have you notice almost all the neocons are gone and many staunch republicans are existing public life due to never return also and those who still support US presence in Iraq are about to become history too. Indeed, I predict the grand old party will have to adopt a new symbol instead of an elephant to properly reflect its doomed status. In much the same way Israel's status as a member state is doomed by its failure to respect the equal rights of the Palestinian people and to fulfill its UN membership. What right does it have to exist when such political matters are a two way street? Dutch

  • 66. 0 0
    "the humanitarian needs"
    • KUTW
    • 01.12.07
    • 09:52

    What about the humanitarian needs of the Israelis to live in safety?

  • 65. 0 0
    56Silvienne: free Shalit now
    • KUTW
    • 01.12.07
    • 09:50

  • 64. 0 0
    57.Silvienne
    • KUTW
    • 01.12.07
    • 09:49

    As far as the hamas government is concerned, it has everything to do. They are impossing the sharia law.

  • 63. 0 0
    56.Silvienne
    • KUTW
    • 01.12.07
    • 09:47

    More cuts till the pals stop attacking Israel. What you call the "blockade" is a consequence of the pals' terrorist activities.

  • 62. 0 0
    human rights groups?
    • KUTW
    • 01.12.07
    • 09:46

    And why don't they support the human rights of the Israelis?

  • 61. 0 0
    Gang of usurpers
    • Moshe
    • 01.12.07
    • 09:02

    The Supreme Court has stolen powers that don't belong to it, to the great detriment of the nation. This tiny unelected oligarchy is trying to set itself up as the supreme arbiter of all public issues, even though its values have almost nothing in common with authentic Judaism. Bending over backwards to safeguard the "human rights" of our mortal enemies is a sure path to national defeat.

  • 60. 0 0
    Retribution against the wrong people
    • Natallie Durson
    • 01.12.07
    • 08:35

    Israels aim has been better than usualy lately on the daily attacks into Gaza. Mostly Hamas members killed, although at least one civilian was also killed. Oh well, nobodys perfect. Anyway, all this sillyness about cutting off fuel and electricity to Gaza would reverse this trend. This would not target Hamas or the militants, since they will get preferred treatment when there are shortages of anything. Next, the rich will be taken care of. It is only the poor and those without influence that would be affected by this knucklehead scheme. It is no wonder that the court stepped in. Israelis get so caught up in increasing the "misery quotient" of the Palestinians that they lose sight of best for Israel, mush less any moral consideration.

  • 59. 0 0
    Did Judges arrogate this oversight power ...
    • Johnson
    • 01.12.07
    • 06:57

    ... or was it granted to them. If there was a grant, then it should be revoked. If the courts attempted to arrogate power, their decrees in the area of national security, should be ignored. They would be gratuitous opinions offered by unauthorized people without the power to intervene.

  • 58. 0 0
    There is no "Court" counterpart for the parties ...
    • Johnson
    • 01.12.07
    • 06:54

    ... so the defensive activities of "those seeking peaceful coexistence" are rendered impotent as they are constrained, while the criminals are not subject to court injunction. So, "the police" cannot interdict those engaged in murder, terror, etc., but must refrain from defensive efforts, while the terrorists respond to no such edict. The Allies in WWII firebombed and destroyed "an open city," Dresden, and yet they now yell "law" to prohibit attempts to induce terrorist to stop killing and terrorizing Israelis. Does this "make sense?" Expose your jugular and invite the butcher to cut your throat assuring him there will be no adverse consequences to him if it requires more than one slice.

  • 57. 0 0
    #18, Alon chiloni
    • Silvienne
    • 01.12.07
    • 06:06

    "HIGH COURT BELONGS TO G-D ALONE, AND WILL JUDGE THESE TRAITORS" What does religion have to do with law?

  • 56. 0 0
    #34, Miriam Ashkelon
    • Silvienne
    • 01.12.07
    • 06:04

    "NO LIGHTS UNTIL WE SEE GILAD SHALIT" More Kassams until Israel stops the blockade of Gaza and gets out of the West Bank...

  • 55. 0 0
    High court?
    • Niva dos santos
    • 01.12.07
    • 05:23

    High Court? Israel got it??!!

  • 54. 0 0
    #47 doris is right! they should like san remo
    • victor hardman
    • 01.12.07
    • 02:34

    yes doris the dutch the international treaty of san remo 1919/20 should be upheld by the commies in the court but of ccourse it doesnt. that has been the problem since 1948 ! the geneva convention does not apply in any way !

  • 53. 0 0
    #43 Straight Talk - not so
    • Rick
    • 01.12.07
    • 01:50

    When Israel signed the 4th Geneva Convention in 1949 and ratified it in 1951, it essentially made the Convention Israeli law. Thus, the Court is only enforcing laws adopted by Israel's elected representatives. The alternative is lawlessness and anarchy. In the US, such actions would quickly be declared as unconstitutional because we also signed and ratified the 4th Gen. Conv.

  • 52. 0 0
    #1 Avarham - the court is enforcing law
    • Rick
    • 01.12.07
    • 01:44

    Hi Avraham- Your Supreme Court is trying to enforce Intenational law adopted by Israel so that it is now Israeli law. It is trying to keep Israel from being recognized as the rogue state it is. Israel signed the 4th Geneva Convention in 1949 and ratified it in 1951. Article 33 of this document states: . "No protected person may be punished for an offence he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited." Israel's own greed led it to make Pals pay and be taxed by it for utilities and fuel while blocking delivery from other countries, with minor exeptions. So, now denial of these necessities to all Gazans consitutes collective punishment. If the cut-off only affected Hamas militants, it would be OK. But it affects innocent women and children as well. You should thank the Court for enforcing International Law. Israel could have refused to sign and ratify the 4th Gen. Conv.

  • 51. 0 0
    Electricity to build qassams
    • rocket motors too?
    • 01.12.07
    • 01:16

    They use the Electricity to run the machine shops that they use to build qassams. Shall we send them rocket motors also? People lived for a long time without cars ,gasoline or electricity.

  • 50. 0 0
    The next Qassam rocket will........
    • R
    • 01.12.07
    • 00:53

    ......hit the powerline going into Gaza no matter where it lands.

  • 49. 0 0
    Dutch - The US needs to uphold inetrnational law
    • me
    • 01.12.07
    • 00:23

    when they do that, then you will have a real pulpit. Until then, go back under your rock. :)

  • 48. 0 0
    B Rusad in Stockholm
    • Janice
    • 01.12.07
    • 00:15

    I notice that you live in Stockholm. So why are you saying elections now is what "we" need. Are you calling for elections in Sweden? If not, then you have no business saying "we" about Israel unless you live there. Sweden, my friend, is your country, not Israel.

  • 47. 0 0
    The Israeli Court needs to uphold international law
    • Dutch
    • 30.11.07
    • 21:51

    The Israeli court should stand up to Israeli leaders and politicians and tell them it's unacceptable in accordance with the Fourth Geneva Convention article 33 for them to impose collective punsh- ment on any group of people. They need to upholding international law instead of towing the line to some punitive politicians or be enablers for the occupation. That's unlawful and unconscionable by all international standards ( http://jewishvoices.squarespace.com/no-justice-no-peace-by-sir-geo/ ) Dutch

  • 46. 0 0
    re #39: about the "post-doctoral"...
    • felix
    • 30.11.07
    • 19:58

    some people (like#39) think that Israel has to be concerned with the escalation, no -- this is the Arabs have to be concerned ... Actually, the are absolutely paranoid about it ... (as they should be). I bet before launching a rocket they prey very hard not to cause too much damage. Because, it something "big" happens on the "receiving" end, the Hamas will be finished within a couple of weeks... The so called "low-intensity" warfare was a strategic choice of the Arabs (from decades ago). Why? Because "high-intensity" is DEVASTATING to them. Life is simple. All answers are readily available out there, we just have to ask right questions... Peace to friends...

  • 45. 0 0
    #29 Max Zinger,P.Chimist
    • Labhras
    • 30.11.07
    • 19:38

    You wrote----"I have been keeping record of antisemtic and anti Arab posts and by far,Haartez prints much more blatantely antisemtic posts". 1, Depends on what you consider "Anti Semitic".Does disagreeing with Israeli Policy against Palestinians count. 2, What are you parameters for "Anti Arabism".Is calling for transfer of Israeli/ and West bank/Gaza Arabs to Jordan/Eygpt included. You see your interpretation may be biased and unless we understand your criteria, your "findings" may be false. BTW it would have been helpful it you had named and shamed a few of the many "Anti-Arabist" posters on here.That you ommitted them is revealing.

  • 44. 0 0
    fuel cuts by their nature are "anti-humanitarian"
    • Paul Freedman
    • 30.11.07
    • 19:37

    Israe may or may not have a good case for inflicting hardship on Palestinian society whether to isolate Hamas or harm Hamas by harming the entire infrastructure or to punish a collective people for its perceived general support of Hamas and Hamas' ideology--but let's not kid ourselves, cutting fuel is intended to be "anti-humanitarian", is intended to rough things up a bit or Israel woudn't be doing it. Israel is not bombarding Gaza with flour and roses or delivering free gasoline, it is cutting fuel, to, to whatever degree, harm Palestinian society.

  • 43. 0 0
    Dictatorship of Unelected Supreme Court Seizing Power
    • Straight Talk
    • 30.11.07
    • 19:29

    The Supreme Court has no right to make a statement on this foreign affairs issue. The government (and certainly the army) has no obligation to listen to them in this regard. The Supreme Court has granted itself power over every issue in Israel, even though they are not elected by the people. The government is at fault for not putting them in their place as in functional democracies like the US, Canada, France, England, etc.

  • 42. 0 0
    #23 Haraetz 's bottom line
    • US Observer
    • 30.11.07
    • 19:13

    #23 Haraetz's editorail decisions reflect the fact that it is in a survival mode. The Israeli "left" has evaporated,enter Barak as the head of Labor. Haraetz, while paying lip- service to justice for the Palestinians, writes what will sell its newspapers in Israel. We in the USA now read Haraetz with the same skeptical eye as our own corportate media here in the USA.

  • 41. 0 0
    Good to the Wicked
    • Ron
    • 30.11.07
    • 18:50

    When you are good to the wicked, you become wicked to the good. So much for Israeli courts protecting Israelis: useless. Until the rockets stop and Shalit is released the supplies should be turned off

  • 40. 0 0
    #2 VictorPaul Harrisman
    • Labhras
    • 30.11.07
    • 18:20

    Wrote-------"israels high court has never heard the word jurisdiction COURTS DO NOT MAKE LAW BUT INTERPRET THE LAWS AS PASSED !! that is what is wrong in israel they invent their jurisdiction !!" 1,Why are they asked to interpret them. 2,What is it they do after they interpret the laws. 3,Which head of cabbage were you found under. The above remarks are just about your most idiotic to date.

  • 39. 0 0
    # 37 felix
    • tbora
    • 30.11.07
    • 17:58

    From abuses and stones the graduation has been to rockets lets hope and pray there will be no post graduation and doctoral advancement.

  • 38. 0 0
    Electricity to Gaza
    • David Gershon
    • 30.11.07
    • 17:43

    Measured cuts in electricity are not going to kill any Palestinians and certainly are substitute for military operations that inevitably cost the lives of our own soldiers and of Palestinians. The civil rights people and the supreme court should reside in Sderot and operate from there. The Israelis residing near the Gaza strip have also some civil rights to live without constant threat. So the bigots of our civil rights movements (and I belong to some), the supreme court nad Mazuz should be aware that cuts in electricity SAVE human lives on both side of the fence.

  • 37. 0 0
    Gazans would have to stop making the rockets ...
    • felix
    • 30.11.07
    • 17:23

    Certainly, the Gazans need all this electricity. With any cut they might have reduced the production of the rockets.. and mines ... They would have reduced their tunnel-digging toward Israel in the attempts to blowup a couple of Jews... Certainly, the Israeli Supreme Court can not allow THAT! WHo are these people?

  • 36. 0 0
    court orders
    • colin
    • 30.11.07
    • 17:13

    How is it possible that the court overrules security.Does this same court order hamas to stop firing kassams?? When will this kangaroo court order the hamas that killing woman and children is illegal??Will this court order the hamas to stop shooting israelis?? Who the hell is this court.No wonder MINISTER FRIEDMAN HAS TO DEMIMISH THE COURTS SO CALLED POWER.

  • 35. 0 0
    Another delay???
    • B
    • 30.11.07
    • 17:04

    This is absurd. This is sickening beyond belief. The Knesset should pass a bill that would hold whoever is "reviewing" the power cuts personally responsible for death and damage caused by the quassams. Enough is enough. Israel's High Court and its "humanitarian" organizations are not just causing deaths and property damage in Israel; they are damaging its standing on the world arena. What kind of country takes so long to approve measures to punish its worst enemy? Gaza's private fuel companies are doing the right thing. They are an example for Israel of how things should be done- decisions are made quickly, and they are all-or-nothing decisions. I've considered living in Israel; I've made two trips there. I used to think that even though its dangerous, Israel's social institutions support its population. Now I'm not so sure.

  • 34. 0 0
  • 33. 0 0
    Suicide by the Court
    • Sol
    • 30.11.07
    • 16:46

    You Israelis get what you deserve by permitting an unelected judiciary to usurp the legislative and executive functions.

  • 32. 0 0
    WHY SHOULD I SEE ALL THIS BRUTALITIES
    • indrajaya
    • 30.11.07
    • 16:38

    ...High Court orders state to delay power cuts to Gaza ... What a cruel way to make fun of poor people.

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    TERROR SCHEDULE FROM HAMAS?
    • Iskander
    • 30.11.07
    • 16:25

    Is Hamas prepared to provide the nebbichs from the High Court with an approved and certified schedule of missiles? Nothing is better than orderliness.

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    gaza
    • alon frank
    • 30.11.07
    • 16:11

    come on !!! this is ridicoulous !!! gaza should be bombed and destroyed asap. those leftist are destroying our country with these stupid decissions.

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    #10 Sam; Second your motion on an appauling attitutes on racism .
    • Max Zinger,P.Chimist
    • 30.11.07
    • 16:04

    comments one reads here are deeply disturbing..." I have never known,in my lifetime,such an appauling attitude towards those of another race.omments one reads here are deeply disturbing.." That includes comments on both sides of the"discussions" in treads/posts in Haaretz. The rampant free wheeling slurs against Israel and Jews by such racists and antisemites as Dutch,Clickfool,Khalid... are common place on Haaretz post pages. Likewise,post by jewish debaters degrading Arabs,wheather Israeli or WestBank/Gaza,are unaccepatble. I have been keeping record of antisemtic and anti Arab posts and by far,Haartez prints much more blatantely antisemtic posts which none of the reputable Canadian newspapers would print.If they do print such articles Canadian laws against promoting hatred towards ethnic and religious groups in Canada,they would be taken to court and face the law. Of the cuff remarks are prosecuted Chief Ahenakew remark on Hitler Frying Jews led to guilty verdict!

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    Sam
    • Edifice
    • 30.11.07
    • 15:31

    Sam the palestinians could all be living in luxury with an abundance of everything. They would still hate the Jews, merely because they are Jewish.

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    #1 | @Avraham: Right without rights!
    • Citizen Zero
    • 30.11.07
    • 15:14

    What we need is a (political) power cut when it comes to those lame and elderly judges. Our democracy is here and there undermined by judges that we people never elected to make political decisions - we shall therefore ignore them as they come, we shall stop sponsoring them with our hard-earned tax-money.

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    #1 | @Avraham: Right without rights!
    • Citizen Zero
    • 30.11.07
    • 15:14

    What we need is a (political) power cut when it comes to those lame and elderly judges. Our democracy is here and there undermined by judges that we people never elected to make political decisions - we shall therefore ignore them as they come, we shall stop sponsoring them with our hard-earned tax-money.

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    # Chiloni
    • Anne
    • 30.11.07
    • 14:30

    Please.Keep God away from the politics if you do not want to insult Him!

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    To all talkbackers: beware of Haaretz spin
    • A Jew
    • 30.11.07
    • 14:25

    The real news item here is that the court rejected requests by human rights groups to declare the cuts illegal, stating that they "were not convinced that the decision harms humanitarian needs in the Strip". This is how all other websites (JPost, YNetnews, etc) are headlining their reports. Only Haaretz, in its usual effort to portray any defensive measure Israel may ever take as immoral, illegal or possibly both, concentrates on the short delay requested by the judges to review the situation where electricity is concerned. The irony is that, as talkbackers amply demonstrate, Haaretz has obtained the opposite of the result they were aiming for: the court upheld Israel's right to retaliate for rockets and mortars in this non-deadly way, thus showing itself more reasonable and realistic than its right wing critics make it out to be, but the Haaretz spin allows them to go on heaping abuse on the judges for their interference. Well done, Haaretz!

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    Cookbook for stopping Kassam Terror
    • Henry
    • 30.11.07
    • 14:14

    Cutting off power to Gaza would have the lefties throw a collective international temper tantrum and force millions of Muslims all over the ME, Europe and Asia to take to the streets causing irrefutable damage, perhaps not seen since the Danish cartoon outburst. Instead of turning off the power switch to Gaza outright, the same goals can be achieved by lowering the AC frequency and voltage by more than 35 percent. Lights would only be dimmed but anything with a motor from refrigerators to DVDs would be permanently damaged within a short period. If Hamas still insisted on firing rockets at innocent civilians, buy stock in LG and Samsung, then repeat procedure every three months.

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    POP's slogans
    • A Jew
    • 30.11.07
    • 13:59

    POP, are you trying to kill Jews by boring us to death?

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    to sam mr intelligence
    • real vision
    • 30.11.07
    • 13:53

    Accountability SAM. When rockets are fired into your country, you have every right to defend yourself and take whatever measures are needed. Israel has been much too lenient dealing with the rockets so hamas continues. Have you forgotten the suicide bombers who go into restaurants...SOME PEACE GESTURES. How about the billions of aid given to the pals. Not once cent returned of value. All of it goes into violent means rather than to build a state or towards being productive. Would you want the pals as a neighbor...nobody wants them and none of the arabs treat them as brothers...just fodder in the islamic war against everyone else. Pals deserve no sympathy

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    For sam in Leeds
    • Shirra
    • 30.11.07
    • 13:38

    Your take on the court decision & its giant loophole for reducing fuel delivery & the suffering of Gazans is mostly spot on. Also, someof the hatred you mention probably results from what has been done to them...but some is coming from elsewhere. Otherwise, how do you explain Qasam's that coincide with removal of settlements and a variety of official statements defining "occupied territory" as all lands between the Mediterranean and the Jordan Valley?

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    the insane supreme[?] court ."CHELM"is here!
    • mark nusbaum
    • 30.11.07
    • 13:36

    Don't these insane judges[?] know that there exists a state of WAR??AND, that they are TRAITORS to the state by providing material help to the enemy! WHY not have SDEROT residents bring a petition to the COURT[of Chelm} demanding that before the terrorists send in rockets from Gaza, they must first get the court to approve their MURDEROUS ACTIONS! On the other hand,it is much more likely that the court will order the IDF to supply the terrorists WITH MORE ACCURATE AND POWERFUL ROCKETS!

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    Mark Hamil #3 How perverse.
    • Hubal
    • 30.11.07
    • 13:23

    You sound like President Musharaf of Pakistan. The executive branch should have no say whatsoever over the Judiciary. It is the latter who best know how to interpret Israeli AND International Law. Whereas the former are experts in subverting the Law to their own ends: The current and previous Prime Ministers and last President suddenly spring to mind!

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    Israel Courts = Sudan Courts
    • POP
    • 30.11.07
    • 13:15

    The same Israel courts that imprison children, right? The same courts that Allow Summary Murders, Ethnic Cleansing, Occupation, etc...

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    CUT POWER TO THE HIGH COURT : THEN TO GAZA
    • B.Rusad
    • 30.11.07
    • 12:46

    It is time to cut power to the high court and then perhaps water too.ELECTIONS NOW that is what we need..........

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    Since when do the Bagatz bastards decide foreign policy?
    • Dudu
    • 30.11.07
    • 12:30

    The eminent enlightened ones have no right to decide foreign policy. They must be removed!

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    a message to Ha'aretz
    • Sam
    • 30.11.07
    • 12:27

    and i'd like to once again re-state not just my own opinion, but the vast majority of opinion in the UK (including that of it's Jewish inhabitants), that the sorts of comments one reads here are deeply disturbing. I have never known, in my lifetime, such an appauling attitude towards those of another race.

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    The holier than all EU...
    • MaryRose
    • 30.11.07
    • 12:19

    cut off fuel for Gaza by refusing to pay for it for weeks. So why does the Israeli high court think that Israel has less choice? The EU wasn't being bombarded by missles and mortars, they were just worried about Hamas making a profit.

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    HIGH COURT GUYS SHOULD...
    • BOB KING THE ZIONIST
    • 30.11.07
    • 12:11

    PASS SOME TIME AT THE FRONT, OR BEING TRANFERRRED TO SDEROT. GOOD IDEIA, HIGH COURT AT SDEROT. VERY SAD DECISION ON LAND SECURITY.

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    This is ABSURD.
    • Sam
    • 30.11.07
    • 12:09

    'The court ruled that the state could continue with its plan to reduce fuel transfers to the Strip, as long as the humanitarian needs of Gaza's residents were given primary consideration.' I'm sorry, but is this some sort of sick joke? I think it's time Israel (and especially Israeli opinion) woke up to the horrific and disgusting treatment of a people for whom every aspect of life is under the control of another. Is daily humiliation, persecution, assasination, kidnapping, torture and killing not enough? People don't throw rockets becuase they have too much oil, gas and electricity. Therefore reducing these things (a babaric abuse of illegitimate political power) will not stop them being thrown, but conversely fuel the understandable desparation that causes them to be thrown. They don't hate you because you're Jewish. They hate you because you have mistreated them beyond belief.

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    And I thought our high court were the pits...
    • MaryRose
    • 30.11.07
    • 12:06

    at least they don't rate the discomfort /inconvenience of our enemies as more important than our lives. Yet.

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    Abolish Israeli Court
    • Mark Hamil
    • 30.11.07
    • 11:40

    The high court's decisions have become more and more dangerous the past years and instead of strengthening Israeli Justice and Democracy they erode it by being bribed from foreign interests in Europe and Saudi Arabia. This is sad and unfortunate and a new court should be formed and the current corrupt Judges dismissed from public service.

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    israels high court has never heard the word jurisdiction
    • victor hardman
    • 30.11.07
    • 11:05

    COURTS DO NOT MAKE LAW BUT INTERPRET THE LAWS AS PASSED !! that is what is wrong in israel they invent their jurisdiction !!

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    Our court ...............
    • Avraham
    • 30.11.07
    • 10:51

    Again our supreme court is sticking it's left wing political nose where it doesn't belong. They must not be allowed to interefere in the security of our nation, that is the job of our elected officials.