Hamas: War will settle Jerusalem dispute, not talks

Actually the war that Jordan started in 1967 settled the fate of jerusalem. It has been liberated.

For we have stopped a revolution attempt starting at OUR most holy place, in an independant country that is not under your jurisdiction. I bet you'll tell us this is a war crime.

"Joe W and" Sharons temple mount visit" Was pure provocation" Yes, yes. We know. Jews visiting their own holy sites provokes Arabs to start killing people and it's all the Jews' fault.

I couldn't agree more, the real culprits are these Palestinian leaders that deliberately cause the problem to begin with, and than go crying to the (un)United Nations when Israeli Police respond justly to the riots, Israel never has nor will ever back down to terrorism. of any kind LONG LIVE ISRAEL !!!

is it mentioned in the Koran? It was built way after the Koran was written. It is you who should get your facts straight, and do some homework. Do you know how many time Jerusalem is mentioned in the Old Testament (the Jewish Bible)?

Their job is to enforce the law and they cannot allow stone throwing at jews or rioting, the arabs are encouraging this because they think that violence in Jerusalem will help their cause because they want Jerusalem divided and Israel does not. Without encouragement the arabs would have ended this days ago and things would be getting back to calm by now but if the arabs continue to stir up trouble then it may well get out of control lead to another intfada and an end of palestinian dreams of statehood. Not even Obama will be able to help them if they allow this to develop into an intefada .. palestinians are playing a very dangerous game which they will eventually loose. More road blocks and restrictions on movement. More restrictions on what Israel lets into palestinain controled areas. Fewer work permits issued so more financial suffering Possible military operations like Cast Lead Statehood chances dead, even moderates in Israel will turn on the palestinans.

What on earth is Potobac talking about when Jews riot at a cemetery.A Jewish cemetery is a quiet,pe aceful, dignified spiritual place ,i know as i was at my local one a month ago .

Conradictory ,to say the least ,as who took the photos,who were the so called inhabitants of the land then ,and why was this holy Muslim site in a poor state of disrepair,so who,s lying or confusi ng the issue,i,d say Eren in Bosnia?

The Hashemite feifdom is about to implode as the Palestine state nears it ,s inevitable coclusion. That,s why the King is rather upset,nervous ,anx ious at the thought of his personal kingdom being handed over to it,s rightful subjects,the Palestinians,so what better way to deflect this awful conclusion ,incite the Arab youth into provoking the perenial scapegoat, Israel.The same diversionary tactics whenever the truth appears ,so we watch and wait for the showdown.

How about Mohammed Dahlan for Palestinian Defence Minist er as he has plenty experience and contacts in the Arab criminal world who can keep up their nefarious criminal activities by paying baksheesh to the big boss.Maybe Saeb Erekat for Minister of Disinformation (Zanu-PF-Zimbabwe) style or Nabil Shaath ,Minister of Foreign Affairs ,reporting on a daily basis ,to Amr Moussa at the Arab League.How about Moustafa Barghouti ,Fi nance Minister ,so he can help himself to all the funds donated by American and Eurpoean taxpayers,and build himself a nice villa in Amman overlooking the palace ,while keeping away from prying eyes such as Hanan .

If the Hamas leadership want,s a war or whatever to settle the issue ,once and for ever,so be it.Ho wever Ismail ,Khalid and whoever else is eager for a scrap ,take at quick peek at Nasrallah,s stronghold in Beirut or check your own backyard as you might be missing something .

It,s time to get the ball rolling and bring Omar Bashir ,the butcher of Sudan ,Ismail Haniyeh ,Kh lid Meshaal ,Hassan Nasrallah ,Mullah Omar and the rest of the Islamic rabble to the Hague on charges of crimes against humanity .

As Uri Avneri wrote: "The occupation is corrupt, and it corrupts by its very nature. It denies all human rights, including the right to property. It fills the occupied territories with an atmosphere of general lawlessness. It enriches the occupier and everybody connected with him. It creates a climate of wanton cynicism, an environment of "anything goes". Such an atmosphere does not stop at the Green Line. It permeates the state of the conqueror."

everybody else was quiet happy under Jordanian rule,despite being put in refugee camps, etc. That being said it was in Jordan where does Palestine come in???

This is in response to charro's comment: "even thou the Koran not even once mention Jerusalem." Get your facts right. The al-aqsa mosque is mentioned in the koran.

Only the israelis have kept the holy sites open to all faiths.BUT do not allow rioting.

and they want us to take their open Anti - Semitism for justice... what a bunch of self deluding lunatics.

For Jews there is only one sacred place and is Jerusalem, for Christians is also Jerusalem, but for muslims the have many sacrwed places they even have them numbered, first is Meca, second is Medina and third is Jerusalem, even thou the Koran not even once mention Jerusalem. May be Las vegas is the fourth, London the fifth and Paris the sixth. Face it is oil money who thinks one day to rule the world as the comunists once tought

How's that working out for you so far, Mr. Maashal?

Before the IDF liberated Jerusalem, Jews weren't allowed to pray at the Western Wall Matter of fact, photos show that the Muslim's revered the Temple Mount so much, that it resembled a a trash heap in photos taken in the 1880's, weeds abounded and the site was a Holy Mess

Meshal and Hamas reveal their true nature again: they are committed to violence, and perversely therefor justify anything Israel does, from Cast Lead, to espionage, imprisoning terrorists, etc. If force determines what is right and what will be, the Israeli's are justified in whatever action they deem necessary. Too bad the palestinians don't devote their energy and resources to building a peaceful viable state of their own. They wallow in hate and violence towards each other as well as Israel, while Israel has built a modern vibrant state. Apparently Hamas wants to return to mideival times. Why not neanderthal times while they are at it?

I wonder how all those stones thrown at the police (13 wounded police men, 0 wounded Islamists, I heard on the radio)were smuggled on the the temple mount. As lying is second nature in jihadi politics and terror, one does not even have to see reports of how it all started.

Too bad the Arab world lacks a brave and visionary leader like King Hussein, who didn't shy away from an honest presentation of the facts. His son, Abdullah, could do much to promote peace and harmony in the region by refusing to cow to the terrorists that nearly overthrew his father in October, 1970. Abdullah can more effectively protect Muslim rights if he demanded reciprocal respect for Jewish rights among Muslims. In the case of the disturbances, Islamic extremists instigated these disturbances. Jordan knows that!

If the racist occupation forces gets out from the East Jerusalem there will be no problem.

Israel is for Jews, and the Mosque is for Jews and Arabs? Am I the only one who smells a rat!

Non-lethal force. Where's the Scream? There are a lot of devices. Ask Obama for help. We all know what they are doing. I would blackout the news and cordon off the area from all extremists. Israel needs to also watch out that some Jews don't go crazy and hurt some Arabs. That's why I would blackout the news. These are young Arab men. The energy needs to be funneled off somehow. Somewhere there are leaders that are directing them. Find them and stop them. Cut off the followers from the leaders. I hope Abbas and Dahlen aren't involved. Gotta bring it down now Israel before it gets going with the least amount of violence as possible. Stop the panic too. Damn it. Jordan be quiet!

Anything that does in the peace process Bibi will pursue.

Israel should recall its Ambassador to Amman immediately. The Jordanians are agitators instead of being a source of calm. Obviously, on the eve of the 15th Anniversary of the Peace Treaty with Jordan- we are facing someone who acts more like an enemy than friend. Israel should tell Jordan its behaviour is not acceptable.

So, what exactly was Sharon doing when he visited the Temple Mount that was so provocative? Did he pee or poo on anything sacred? Did he insult Mulsims other than by being Jewish and in an area that the Muslims know is sacred to Jews as well as themselves? Should the Muslims be able to build over critically important religious sites of others and then claim that others are not permitted to be in the area? Jim the mechanic, don't quit your day job.

Everybody groping around for an excuse to say peace talks can't be done now and why it is somebody's fault. Obama should just forget about the fool's errand of trying to make peace among those who don't want it. We have problems here at home. Let's worry about our own problems.

What a load of nonsense. Its amazing how the Islamic world cannot get itself out of its tribal straightjacket and think with honesty and integrity. Of course, the irony is the history of Jordan and its exclusion of Jews from their Temple and Jordan's treatment of the Temple as a garbage dumping ground. What tremendous moral authority it has. Then there is its retreat after attacking Israel in 1967, its abandonment of the WB.

Remember,They are on Temple mount throwing rocks at Kotel below. Just happened again recently during Jewish High Holidays. No Jews hassled moslems there during Ramadan.

Maybe I won't live long enough to see it but I can predict one thing. If Muslims don't control their own extremists then when that extremism has breached the Great Wall, the Chinese will unleash hell and stop them completely. Even the Bible mentions this. So everybody just stop the extremism and go enjoy the sunshine and some hummus.

The desecration of the Temple Mount is being carried out by Arab hooligans. They should be arrested and bannned from Jerusalem. Respect for all Religious Worship should be ensured by the Jerusalem Police.

Jordan is thus further inflaming the current situation. It would be far better had they said nothing.

Imagine if Israel told Jordan how to conduct her affairs in Jordan. The Temple Mount is not in Jordan, so Jordan should butt out. In any event, based on how they dealt with Jewish sights when they were in control of the area does not add to the validity of any suggestions they may give Israel.

I love Jordan's response to Arabs rioting. Jordan's police would just shoot real bullets and not let their policemen be harmed. Their attitude makes me sick.

Gee, thanks for the passive-aggressive threat, MK as-Sana. How about we instead say that the area is sacred to both Jews AND Muslims...and everybody should takes pains to be considerate to the spiritual sensitivities of everybody else. It is the Haram ash-Sharif AND the Temple Mount. I'd think that's the message a responsible politician, who seeks fairness and wants to avoid strife, would convey.

Of course Al-Sana is being duplicitous. The Islamic movements sparks riots, but he nonetheless sees Israelis rightests as being provocative. The rioters throw stones but it is the fault of the Israeli police for not controlling the site over which they have jurisdiction. This is community thinking in the worst sense: anything my community does is justified and anything your's does is dastardly. Thinking like that was pervasive in Bosnia in 1994 and India/Pakistan in 1947. The Al-Sanas of the world sow the wind, and when the whirlwind results in lots of dead bodies, the Al-Sanas of the world shrug off any responsibility. In fact, they are not much better than serial murderers in suits. It's a pity that one political party with a Geneva Accords agenda and concerns that override ethnic tension is historically far fetched in Israel and the West Bank. It's lucky for a country like India had the Congress Party available to it with legitimacy crossing the ethnic divide.

Israel is not provoking anyone, if anything they are the ones that have been provoked. Jews have been the ones forbidden from praying there, not the Muslims. I am a Christian and I have never visted Israel; however,I wish that I understood more about the Temple Mount, but there is no doubt in my mind that the Jewish people have rights to it. If this type of thing happened anywhere else in the world, it would be viewed as racist if someone (Muslim,Buddhist,etc.) was not allowed to pray in a certain area. But the world seems to think it is ok. Where has the outcry been all these years for the Jewish rights?!?

In fact Sharon's visit was cleared by Arafat and no surprise at all. Arafat tricked Sharon then called for a riot as a fake provocation for the 2nd intifada. This is well documented. With regards to land grabs, nothing can be further from the truth. The fact is Israel as it exists now, is less than 1/2 of 1% of the total land in the Middle East. Even that seems to be much for some people. They would like the Jewish people to have less than 1/4 of 1% of the land. What next?No land? Save the sympathy crap, Muslims have more than 991/2% of all land in the Middle East, that should be enough!!

What would the Jews' reaction be if muslims were harassing them while they are praying at the kotel ? a non-violent one ??? look what happens in west jerusalem when the municipality wants to open a parking on saturdays... haredims throw stones on everyone in the area !

"ISLAM IS OUT TO CONTROL THE WORLD!" Any under your bed?

Sure ! Talk is cheap. I think this type of rhetoric is meant for local crazies, it's pure incitement, but does it predict a critical threat ? No. Btw, if I were an Arab in Palestine/Israel I would be scared of Iran's nukes, but maybe Palestinian Arabs are just slated to be the sacrificial lamb for Shia hegemonial dreams.

Jews had access for 2000years to the Western Wall only after 1967...In an act of mercy,after the conquered Jerusalem,they allowed to the moslems u nhindered access to their al-aksa...Now the moslems want to spark their third intefadeh,with those riots...Israel should bar theior access to the Temple Mount for good,for 2000years...L'azallel with all of them...

Jim, you flawed analysis is so off base and false. Keep in mind that before Jerusalem was liberated in 1967, other religions were forbidden to access their holy sites. ONLY since 1967 has each religion been given free access, under Israeli rule. In case you haven't noticed, the Sharon visit to the Mount, under Israeli jurisdiction, was manipulated by the Pals as a call to violence. It was documented that this was planned in advance by Arafat. Then again, Jim, was there a "Palestinian" before 1967 ??? They are a Fugazy, fake, creation.

Yeah that's sort of the problem you have with Jews, It doesn't remind anyone here of Jews rioting at cemeteries, only YOU. Try digging deeper, really let it all out.

Rumours! Rumours!just where would the so called Intelligent Civilized!world be,without Rumours,we the Public of the world!have so many answers to most questions,you can check! facts worldwide!yet violence! can be started just like putting a match to a fuel dump!by a Rumour! Any person who can believe that Israel!would deliberately,allow the Mosques on the Temple Mount,to be destroyed!needs to see a shrink! This is just another move to Paralyze the hand of Israel,in the wake of the ruling that Israel committed war crimes,in Gazza. kevin j lee.

The Temple Mount is no doubt the home of G-d, the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He must cry a river of tears seeing the Arab desecration in His home. Arabs have free reign to roam and do what they please, while Jews can hardly peek through a guarded gate. If a Jew moves his lips on the Mount, he faces arrest. So much for coexistence with the religion of Peace. One billion members of this "PEACEFUL" religion are ready to kill, that says a whole mouthful. Sullivan, Durson, Dutch, et al, are you hearing this ?? The Mosque defiles G-d's Home and is an abomination to the L-rd. They have Mecca and Medina, Jerusalem is nowhere found in their prayers. MK Al-Sana should immediately be dismissed from the Knesset for his actions against the State he is supposedly loyal to. It is a knife through the heart to see the Arab desecration at the Temple Mount. We hope this disgrace can be remedied in our lifetime.

Was pure provocation and lit the intifada and got the Bulldozer elected in the first place, it was just one more "tool" to justify the on going "institutional violence" meted out on the occupied Palestinians on a daily basis. Repression, Revenge and more Israeli Repression has worked so well for land annexation and any meaningful peace negotiations.....Conquest and Peace cannot co exist except maybe in double speak Israel....PEACE EVER?

"Police crack down on rioters". I'll be damned, Muslims siding with rioters. So much for the "religion of peace". It's high time someone reminded Muslims that when one is at a prayer service, rioting is not usually an accepted form of worship. Similar conduct goes for civilized society.

Don't throw stones and set up a curtain that shields Jews and Muslims from viewing each other while praying. List of rules for everyone to observe correct behaviors. For example, any jeering or name calling will result in being ejected. Something like that. Everyone should just agree that it is a Holy Place regardless.

Sad that all this violence is based on lies, but that is the situation in the Middle East.

SO OBVIOUS + THEY SAY IT AND ITS WRITTEN IN THE KORAN!

In 2001, Taliban destroyed Buddist statues in Bamiyan Afghanistan. There were a few tut tuts at the time, but all quiet now. Forgotten. Al Aqsa is clearly the flash point of endless violence by Muslims for no reason whatever. It is time to take a lesson from the Taliban and clear the area of this problem permanently. Dismantle the Dome and Al Aqsa, send them by ship to some Muslim country for reassembly. Don't destroy them, however.

Palestinian irredentists claim that eastern Jerusalem is historically Arab territory and should be the capital of a future Palestinian state. In reality, Jews always lived in eastern Jerusalem ? it is the location of the Old City and its famous Jewish Quarter. Only from 1948 to 1967 ? during the Jordanian occupation ? was the eastern part of Israel's capital "Arab territory." Palestinians have no more claim to sovereignty there than Russia does in formerly occupied eastern Berlin. As to Jerusalem : http://xrl.us/be488z

The Temple Mount has been "occupied" by hostile and invading entities since its destructions in 70 CE. First it was an idolatrous 'temple' built by the Romans. later it was a church built by the early Christians. And since the 7th century it has been a Mosque built by muslims. All of these structures were built ILLEGALLY on OUR Temple Mount - in our city (Jerusalem) - capital to the Jewish People for 1000 years before. The Temple Mount and the entire the city of Jerusalem as well as the entire land of Israel were given to the Jews by G-d as an everlasting inheritance. Indeed, Jewish ownership of the land of Israel is acknowledged and accepted by the Koran, which encourages the Jews to live in their land promised to them by G-d forever. Consequently, the uncomfortable truth [for Muslims]is that it is they who are illegally occupying OUR land and OUR Temple Mount! Its time this truth was told to the world.

The Temple Mount was always a Jewish holy site. No Jew would desecrate it. The Muslims came and squatted there. They stole it. They are the provocateurs, they are the desecrators. Jo Witness

All this is positioning by the pal/arab leaders to try and egg on their uneducated masses into starting a third intifada. The parallel was when Sharon went on to Temple Mount - a fairly innocuous visit that was manipulated by arab leaders into causing several years of needless bloodshed on both sides without any positive results for the pals.

You are dead wrong, Fortuna. Look up the facts before you speak.

When the Arabs had East Jerusalem, division and exclusion against the Jews was the order of the day. That would still be the case today had not the Arabs tried to destroy Israel in 1967.

Right on, Tom. As an American Jew, I am disgusted wwith this neocon Netanyahu/Lieberman/Barak triangle of evil. Shalom

Colin, what have youbeen smoking? It is a shame that you do not know the truth

I think it would be illuminating to perform a detailed analysis of what exactly motivates these attackers as well as their supporters. I have grave doubts that our neighbors are interested in peace.

They are in the best position to do so. They are also in the best position, if they choose, to be destructive to the State of Israel and any hope for peace.

What the heck is he doing in office? When political appeasement backfires the results are exponentially disastrous. This is such a case.

Since 1920, the Palestinians have been manipulated like little children by their own leaders. First their leaders start false rumours that "the Jews" are about to take over the Temple Mount. Then the rumours are magnified as they are spread by word of mouth in an atmosphere of mounting hysteria. And then the Pals erupt into violence and get their heads kicked in. We can only hope that one day maybe the Arab world's rare encounters with reality and hard facts will become more frequent.

Whatever the value of the site to Muslims, the Temple Mount is undoubtedly THE holiest site of all to Jews, and should be treated as such by the Israeli Government, and the rights of Jews respected by Muslims. Instead, Jews who appear religious are regularly harassed by police on the Temple Mount, to prevent them from praying, contrary to all human rights. No-one is trying to stop Muslims from praying on the Temple Mount, but Jews surely have rights at their holiest site. Imagine if Muslims were not allowed to visit, let alone pray at, Mecca. What Mr Al-Sana is saying is equally outrageous not only to Jews, but to Christians and non-Muslims generally.

In any case the temple mount is neither mecca nor medina, after all it was a holy jewish site and foremost. Are the muslim extremists trying to wipe that from history too. Only the israelis have ever kept the holy sites open to all faiths. Yet not for the purpose of rioting. Shame on the inciters!

He comes inside the Troyan Horse of Israeli Democracy to destroy Israel as a member of its parlament. And we will let him have his way, just because there is some self-righteous idiot who will crow if it's otherwise? A MK who lies and incites to the destruction of his country cannot and should not be a parlamentarian of any country on earth.

Sort of reminds you of the Jews who riot when someone tries to build over what had been once a Jewish semetary.

This current government is doing you so much more harm than good. The growing contempt at Israel can be firmly grounded in the current Prime Minister's right wing government and their acts of provocation. For gods protest or something instead of sitting back like a bunch of stunned, useless bystanders as your government drags you downward. Peace is possible, just not when your government Israel is doing its best to prevent it.

Al-Sana should be arrested for incitement to violence if he cannot prove his claim of desecration.

Israel is not doing the provoking and throwing stones and it seems a pity you should comment that the opposite is happening. I think every rioter should be delivered to Gaza where all the crazies live and certainly not be allowed to stay in East Jerusalem to cause further unrest. Pity our poor policeman.