Hamas: Jordan or Egypt likely behind Dubai hit

or not! There is nothing strange or racist about that. I can usually tell whether a person is from Sweden or a Yemeni Jews or a religious Jew whose ancestors have intermarried only with Jews.

I believe that Dahi Khalfan Tamim is Dubais answer to Inspector Clouseau, not now Kato.

The million dollar uestion is, if they get the ok to proceed with it, and if it goes public.

It really must be disheartening for Chris to be shown up for what he is , an anti-semitic ,Jew hating Palestinian who still awaits his Palestine state nearly 63 years after it was given to him ?

Just one problem there Edward those abovemention ed people are too cowardly to even attempt such a mission ,it,s safer to comment on this blog ?

Whst,s the real reason behind Chris Linthwait,s obfuscations and denials?

Poor Palestinian Chris Linthwaite ,most folks on this blog seem to have it in for him ,why would that be?

The litmus test will be in Italy where the Iranian Savak has been very busy arms smuggling right under the noses of the local intelligence agency and police force and Interpol?

Like a dog with it,s tail between it,s legs ,the ubiquitous Cris Linthwaite has gone to gound and hopefully will remain there,period.

The biggest laugh of all is the humous all over the Dubai police chief,s face .

The head of the GCC himself said it was a rogue Palestinian hit squad in Dubai,now Hamas says it was a Egyptian/Jordanian amateur criminal gang ,yet we still get dumb Palestinians trying to wish that Isreal was involved ,sorry it ain,t going to work ,no matter how hard they want it to be ?

Hamas say's it's likely that Egypt or Jordan are behind the assassination Let's just say that Hamas knows a heck lot more about it than you do Lithwaite, Lincoln and any of the other conspiracy yentah's that goes for you too

No, all British secret service agents do not sound like James Bond, but all Israelis sound like Dr. Ruth Westheimer!

brothers unless they know the truth will come out eventually and they want to be seen as being on top of the issue and the prestige that goes with it.

protecting with lots of pictures of foreigners and not much else? They call for Israel to own up. Why? If they have the goods on Israel? The truth is probably in the old Arab proverb my enemies enemy--. Egypt and Jordan are anti Iran as is Dubai and Arabs have Israel as their excuse for everything.

protecting with lots of pictures of foreigners and not much else? They call for Israel to own up. Why? If they have the goods on Israel? The truth is probably in the old Arab proverb my enemies enemy--. Egypt and Jordan are anti Iran as is Dubai and Arabs have Israel as their excuse for everything.

The illegitimate use of British passports to perpetrate a "crime" leaves GB feeling like an old whore who has been raped and pistol-whipped after enjoying a wonderfully successful and lucrative business when young and beautiful. So yes, Britain does need to reestablish the validy of ALL its passports, not just the ones held by British-Israelis. Do you really think that there are really only 12 forged British passports circulating around the world? But here's the real point Chris: Does Britain have to blame Israel for its passport debacle? Especially now, as every day passes and it becomes clearer that the wild accusations of the Dubai clown are nothing more than stories out of the second volume of the Arabian Nights?

Why havent they asked Interpol to arrest Meir Dagan etc as they keep threatening? Who are they protecting? The anti Iran forces? They fear Iran's ambitions much more than Israel but of course Moslems will never admit publicly to any fraternal disagreement just lots of public kissing and private backstabbing

"Hamas suspects the security forces of an Arab state were behind the assassination..." According to Mahmoud Nasser, a member of Hamas' political bureau, the security forces of an Arab state were tracking al-Mabhouh *before* Jan 19 and then had him killed *on* that date - earlier than they had originally planned. Now I don't know whether Mahmoud Nasser is right or wrong. Neither do you. Neither does anybody. That's the point. Nobody knows who was ultimately behind the killing. But for you now to say that you will "wait until the findings" of the criminal investigations before drawing any conclusions is pious cant. You jumped to your conclusions (which just happened to accord with your prejudices) from Day 1 of this story. And by calling for punitive measures to be taken against "those British passport holders who also hold Israeli passports" you have pre-judged (not awaited) the outcome of the criminal investigations. That's your idea of "justice", Chris.

Marking British passport holders with Israeli/British dual citizenship basically means that you are branding the person who is traveling as a Jew, and that's neither safe for the person concerned nor smart for the British government to do. Just for your information, the Germans put a little J (for Jude) on every German Jewish holder's passport during the Nazi era. How about if the British government simply makes sure that every British citizen is issued the most up-to-date and secure passport, (machine readable with biometric chips)? I would think that these are nearly impossible to forge, aren't they?

firstly i will state my suspicions, not because of this article, but what i have beleived once i saw the news regarding the hit, i believe that egypt, jordan and israel were in cahoots, the people involved are of arab and jewish origin, so far egypt and jordan think they have got away with it, soon they will find out when their people realise what their governments have done and rebel, watch and learn people.

nobody else knows ? Any specific proof ? Smocking gun ? Rumors , finger-pointing , lying , accusing without anything that holds water does not count . When Arabs held a parade and a missile exploded killing dozens they accused Israel as always . So let me know what YOU know .

I think your frustration and anger is starting to adle your brain. Egypt has as much motive to assasinate a Hamas representative as does Israel. So does Jordan for that matter. And you last point applies to all nations

being behind dubai hit is being used by Israeli proxies in attempt to impede capture of mossad terrorist gang now hiding in Israel.

It is a crime, but any modern state which creates it own passports can virtually duplicate other states' passports. The technology and methodology is common with computers and a copy of a county's passport. The technology, probably, exists in private or corporate hands also?

There's one small problem with blaming Arab countries for the hit. For example...the 3 Australian passports all belonged to Australians living in Israel. (They had dual Australian/Israeli passports) That, unfortunately, points strongly at Israeli/Mossad implications.

his way of speaking and appearance would give him out right away ,conversion and Brit pass notwistanding. I support Dubai police on that .

No. 4 I couldn't care less if you have respect for Jews but not for Israel. Nobody has proven that Israel is behind the killing and we all know what Germany did to the Jews, so you know what you can do with your respect for the Jews.

ill have to wear it inside out !

It is a crime, but any modern state which creates it own passports can virtually duplicate other states' passports. The technology and methodology are, obviously, common with computers. .

visions. "As it will be demonstrated below, the decision by the Zionist leadership to accept the 1947 proposed UN GA Partition plan was nothing but a smoke screen, which was done solely to gain international recognition and support. This deception was a political ploy to gain initial international legitimacy for the existence of the "Jewish state", and this was well known to the Palestinian people. The reader is urged to contemplate the following Zionist leaders' quotes in an open mind. Note that most, if not all, of the quotes below are dated before the entry of any single Arab Army into British Mandated Palestine: * In a letter Chaim Weizmann sent to the Palestine-British high Commissioner, while the Peel Commission was convening in 1937, he stated: "We shall spread in the whole country in the course of time ..... this is only an arrangement for the next 25 to 30 years." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 66) * Ben-Gurion emphasized that the acceptance of the Peel Commission would not imply static borders for the future "Jewish state". In a letter Ben-Gurion sent to his son in 1937, he wrote: "No Zionist can forgo the smallest portion of the Land Of Israel. [A] Jewish state in part [of Palestine] is not an end, but a beginning ..... Our possession is important not only for itself ... through this we increase our power, and every increase in power facilitates getting hold of the country in its entirety. Establishing a [small] state .... will serve as a very potent lever in our historical effort to redeem the whole country." (Righteous Victims, p. 138) * In 1938, Ben-Gurion made it clear of his support for the "Jewish state" on part of Palestine was only as a stepping ground for a complete conquest. He wrote: "[I am] satisfied with part of the country, but on the basis of the assumption that after we build up a strong force following the establishment of the state--we will abolish the partition of the country and we will expand to the whole Land of Israel." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 107 & One Palestine Complete, p. 403) * One day after the UN vote to partition Palestine, Menachem Begin, the commander of the Irgun gang and Israel's future Prime Minister between 1977-1983, proclaimed: "The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized .... Jerusalem was and will for ever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And for Ever." (Iron Wall p. 25) * ""Shamir has said Israel must keep the territories in order to accommodate the immigrants. "A great aliyah [immigration]," he said, "requires a Greater Israel."(5) He has insisted that, although Soviet Jews are not being directed to the territories, any Jew has the right to live anywhere in the land of Israel, which for most Israelis includes the territories.

from entering their DisneyDubaiBigBrotherland. Judging by the lack of rights and priveleges arabs usually receive in the emirate, they already have but it will be interesting to watch a double standard unfold

She had the motive: to try to attack Israel She had the desire: to try to attack Israel She had the time: something to do between bashing Israel on Web forums. I'm sure its her. Even if its was not, I'm sure that she was involved: at least by telepathy. Her stubborn refusal to even accept HAMAS's suggestions as to who did the hit shows that she just wants to create confusion to deflect from her own guilt! But why the hit? He was useless as an arms trader and too much money seemed to be ending up into Switzerland (Dina as contact man) via HBSC Bank ((Chris Linthwaite's account) and back into Dubai (to be laundered by Chinese).. Waste not, want not! Natallie "Its those Zionists" Durson and Chris "Yellow stars for British Jew's passports" Linthwaite to the rescue.

I did not mean to be facetious. But when I was covering news in the Middle East in the early 1950s, one's religioun was indicated on US passports. I had a separate passport for the Middle East that said atheist, while the one I used in Europe said Jewish. The Passport service undertstoon the need for the first one. I eve interviewed Sheik Ibn Saud -- long before his sons and grandson became kings and princes.

The evidence that dramatically points to Mossad being involved isnt exactly overwhelmingly credible either. "Honey, What's that smell?" "Oh it's just the evidence cooking, dear." You have the head of the police in Dubai adding suspects to the list practically every 15 seconds. The Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and Hanukkah Harry are quaking in their boots. Soon he'll run out of real people to accuse, and i'll be sharing a Jail Cell with all of you, oh the wonderful conversations we could have.

The arabs are quick to condemn israel in whatever it does, but then backs away from accusing other arab nations. Shows how bias and unprofessional their idea of justice is.

Yes exactly! You truly understand it! And if clear, irrefutable evidence is presented that implicates someone other than Madagascar as the culprit, then of course I would NOT deem Madagascar guilty. As of now there is no such evidence. And so I have clear reason to deem Madagascar guilty.

...will there one follow for the jordan king ? its actually "involvement of mossad", not specifying any percentage...

How abondoning violence is contravening law? Regognizing Israel as a Jewish state means that Israel is a guarantor of respect of Jewsih people human rights (no other country in the world guarantees it). In practice it means that Israel is THE decision maker on what does and what does not endangeour human rights of Jewsish people. Israel therefore is the only party entitled to decide who can and who can not be it's citizen. That settles the question of Arabs claiming settlement rights in Israel. Turning the claim that Israel role as Jewsih state deny other peopels religious rights is dishonesty. Israel dids on that matter bely its critics claims. Once violance ends, Israel is recognized, very fast improvements will take place. Check points will disappier. Trust will come up. Security will be enjoyed by all. In due course borders will come down etc.

Now that Hamas is having to stop accusing Mossad because the case is clearly too ridiculous even for them,they need another diversion from the truth.That's why Nasser is laying a new smoke screen by accusing Egypt and Jordan. Consider this;who were the 2 suspects who shipped off to Iran after Mabhouh's death?Strange how we've heard nothing more about them. Nasser is trying to protect IRAN from being found out and probably trying to divert attention from Hamas's involvement,too. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!

hi Chris, Should paasports of US citizens who are Muslims be marked as belonging to a Muslim. Same for UK passports? The question has nothing to do with Israel, so let's see if you can avoid mentioning it in your answer. Thanks you

If we have them in our government, they should be retired. It is a new age where this you kill one and we respond with one solution no longer works.

"Anyone notice that Hamas says it was Jordan or Egypt behind the hit? This means Mossad was not involved." Nice amateur logic there, Harry. You can somhow make the jump that some sort of involvement by Egypt or Jordan "...means Mossad was not involved". Are you too thickheaded to understand that, due to peace treaties between Egypt and Israel as well as Jordan and Israel, either one of these countries could easily have shared intel with Israel that was necessary for Israel to carry out the hit? Or are you just one of those who always repeats the old mantra "It's always the Arabs, never Israel".

Please read my post again. Based on your response, it appears that you may have misread it. What I said was that Egypt's or Jordan's involvement in some peripheral way does not automatically clear Israel. It is very likely that Israel would have had some help in gathering intel and in tracking Mabhouh's movements from one or both of those countries. Saying that any involvement from them somehow excludes Israel's involvement is quite a foolish leap. No matter who was involved, at this point it seems that Israel had the lead in this operation. If clear, irrefutable evidence is presented that implicates someone other than Israel as the culprit, then of course I would NOT deem Israel guilty. As of now there is no such evidence.

All of a sudden all the usual suspects are clamouring over Hamas,s claims . Gee I wonder why. Could it be that they are playing with the GOI and all it,s slavish apologist. Bets are still Israel is behind this murder. Oh and before you say it---no I rarely believe Hamas.

A cover-up of a clandestine security operation in which a known murderer who was able to travel freely throughout the Arab world, was killed most likely by Israeli operatives? A cover-up? Are you serious? What rot! I agree with you, certainly, that the prime minister of Israel should: (1) come clean; (2) arrest the head of Mossad for engaging in illegal activities and using fake passports; (3) name each and every participant in the operation and turn them over to Dubai or Interpol or Australia or some fine upstanding organization or country; (4) open the borders of Israel to all; (5) agree that all Israelis will start wearing yellow stars and targets on their backs and will begin to board the boxcars; (6) resign.

I'm rather astonished that the "proposed" solution to the passport debacle has been retooled into a Euro-rant against, in this case, Jewish Israeli dual-passport holders. What if the Lod airport is not the source of security breakdown? What if it is the data base in the UK that is not secure? And why has that possibility not once occurred to several of the concerned participants on this forum?

_____ Si, I do not have visions, you apparently do. Presumptuous outsiders with vision of peace. Could you please help to Russia and Japan to resolve their differences and sign peace treaty? Or you are not interested to interfere in the affairs not involving Jews?

Thought we would see some action here. I myself was beginning to think it could have been the Mossad ......

If racial profiling is used at ben Gurion Airport. Why can't it be used in other places? If all dual nationals need to be tagged then so be it. Although the security breach appears to be predominantly (I mean all trying to be clever) amongst those who hold joint Israeli/British citizenship. Or should we just ignore the threat, or the risk that this loophole used in Dubai could also be replicated by Al Qaeda? So seriously, what do you propose should happen? Because if this story is true, then two countries which has had activity from Al Qaeda are actively cloning passports rendering every single thing put in place after 9/11 ineffective.

Sorry Simon forgive my English. SO let's get this straight, if Israel was in no way, what-so-ever involved in this killing you would still deem them guilty?

whatever happened to the two Palestinians arrested after the assasination? All this evidence that points to the Mossad is a little to convenient. It doesn't seem plausible that Mossad would let its agents be tracked so easily. Sunni Arab interests do not want to see a Nuclear Iran or an armed Hamas either. Lets not forget how perfect a scapegoat Israel is.

that can be construed as anti semitic. If it was it would not have been published in this moderated forum, or if it was published and there was justification for your accusations it would have been reviewed and deleted by a moderator. As your accusations must be taken with the utmost gravity. As you are accusing me of joking about the deaths of 6 million people. I'll repeat I rejected the use of the Yellow Star of David as an identification on the passport. I notice you have not taken up my suggestion of protecting the identities of those with joint Israeli/British nationality if this story is true.

So if Israel was in know way connected to this, they would still be guilty? IS that what your saying?

IF Hamas' accusation does turn out to be true, and the assassination was carried out by an Arab state, will you also advocate marking the passport of any Arab dual citizen holding a British passport?

Ok let's tag British-Israeli passports and do racial profiling and Arabs in airports. Sounds Fair. But wait a sec how many times has the MI5/MI6 used forged passports, I suppose you are against them doing that themselves, so let also tag all dual british-french, british-american and all the other dual nationals who hold british passports?

I guess Dubai knows something about what makes a Jewish face.... sometime ago there was another country where this happened.

the keystone cops at it again.

If Jordan and Egypt have successfully forged 12 british passports with the identities (all confirmed) of 12 British/Israeli citizens. Then there has been a monumental security breach. What would you propose should be done to re-establish the security and the validity of those passports belonging to those with joint british/Israeli citizenship? Because nothing is not an option. Particularly as this breach in security undermines everything put in place after 9/11. Even the watch list your government relies on to keep bad people out of the US is rendered useless. Unless of course the United States is going to ban all British, Australian, French, German and Irish passport holders. As none at this time can be guaranteed as been valid passports, and may just as easily have been cloned by Al Qaeda operatives. THAT is what we are talking about. A total breakdown in the entire concept of The Passport.

Profiling is already done in Israel, but thats ok. It's only nazi when the Arabs do it I guess?

is antisemitic. Whatever Brits do with their passport or subway systems is of no interest to me.

242 does NOT say what you assert. Have you even ever read it. If so, do you understand English. Second, the US does not claim to be a Christian nation. Our founding fathers separated church from state for many reasons. George Washington, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison among many others were all against a "Christian " nation.Many of them believing in a higher power did not profess a religion per their own writings-d diaries and private memoirs. You spew ignorance and idiocy, in addition to your blatantly execrable prejudice.

I think you can enter Dubai Either a Somali passeport (If ever existed) or North Korean Passport. They are big time travellers. Did the Dubai Authorities ever cheked the passeport of Mabhuh. As far I know (Serious) he travelled as well on a forged passeport.

That would be covered in response #85 First paragraph. If this story is true there has been a monumental breakdown in the security of British passports of dual Israel/British nationals. What would you propose to restore the integrity of the british passport as a travel document. And importantly protect those of British/Israeli nationality. Lots of people saying you can't do that, but nobody suggesting a response to the fact that 12 british passports were forged with the identities of 12 British/Israeli nationals down to the correct passport number. So come on then? What would you do? and if this story is correct, nothing is not an option.

as though Israel should be judged guilty before being proven innocent?

of your contributions to this talkback? I hope so, because I'd like to see the one which you sent in to Haaretz that suggested that because a great many terrorist attacks against civilians have been carried out by British Muslims, their British passports should have a green sword and image of the Koran stamped on it.

Looks like Natalie gave her response, but it wan't the one you were hoping for. She clearly and intelligently explained the obvious fact that you and the rest of the Israeli apologists seem to want to ignore. And that is that even if Egypt or Jordan was involved in some way in this fiasco, that does NOT ABSOLVE ISRAEL!! Israel's stamp is all over this operation and it is not out of the realm of possibilities that Israel may indeed have gotten some kind of help from Egypt or Jordan. The main issue here is, and always has been, the blatant misuse of the passports of countries friendly to Israel in order to conduct an extra-judicial killing. Why couldn't Israel, with their supposed top notch intelligence agency, have tracked and arrested this guy and put him on trial or in a military tribunal just like the U.S. is doing?? The answer is simple. Israel finds it preferable to label someone a terrorist and then use that label to justify killing him.

Anyone notice that Hamas says it was Jordan or Egypt behind the hit? This means Mossad was not involved. Or do the usual crew of Israel-bashers suggest Jordan or Egypt subcontracted the hit to Mossad? Oh, this is getting good... Harry

The only offer given to the " Zionist entity" as they love to call Israel is a "hudna" based on the green line. A hudna is not a peace agreement. It is a rest from fighting only.

Which one? There are several of us

I have proposed severely restricting travel between Pakistan and the United Kingdom. Since it appears most terrorist plots discovered in the UK emminate from there. I am not proposing punishing those who legitimately hold british passports. In fact by making their use in the manner they were used in Dubai again by person or countries unknown (although I still believe it is Mossad) impossible. It will be protecting those Britons who jointly hold Israeli passports. Neither have I proposed revoking yours or anyone else's citizenship. However if this story is correct, then there hasd been a monumental breakdown in the security of your's and anyone else's in your position passport. Putting not just you but anyone else who uses a British Passport at risk. Which means something must be done urgently to protect yourself and anyone else who is in your position whilst ensuring the integrity of the british Passport. That is all, in my usual hamfisted way, I am saying.

Islamic Jihad, Fatah, Hamas and whatever other militias not named here. They have not come out publicly ... on the record as we say ....as accepting the EXISTENCE of Israel....be it 1967 borders ,green line or antother border line.

to my representatives that British subjects, when entering my country, must have stamps in their passports which read, "Also with a brain" to distinguish them from the Brits who are not dangerous, whose passports should read, "Not a clue". Guess which kind of passport you'd be carrying. "Actually I have proposed that the British passports of those who also hold Israeli passports should be marked with the words "Also in possession of an Israeli Passport". Others have proposed a yellow star of David but I think that is a bit to far."

Israel, Egypt, Jordan, Fatah...etc teams rushed to the scene after al-Mabhouh revealed his comings to Dubai. Who done it? Guess.

I should have known really. Read post 19 if you want my views on the Dubai killing. Possibly Jordan or Egypt involved in intelligence but a Mossad hit. Where, and why, do Jordan and Egypt get 27 Israeli lookalikes with cloned passports of Israeli citizens and why are countries with large intelligence agencies all calling in Israeli ambassadors? I expect you think it's because they're all anti-semites.

I am going to propose the ability of countries being able to identify by access to a database the identification of British Passport holders who hold dual Israeli nationality so as to ensure that british passports are not used again for the purpose of murder by parties unknown who appear to have a list of all British/Israeli joint nationals living in Israel. I assume that you assent to this. Because whoever did this if it wasn't Mossad could replicate the same passports for the use of or by Al Qaeda.

I think Chris Linthwaite did it. to implicate Israel.

I rejected the use of the Yellow Star of David. How can that be anti semitic? And when you consider the numbers of British passports used where there is dual Israeli nationality. And the suggestion that it is Jordan and Egypt which suggests a widescale collapse in the security of British passports where the owner has dual British/Israeli nationality, and the possibility that Al Qaeda may use this loophole. What would you suggest, to re-establish the security of these particular passports? Other than making their use as forgeries impossible by allowing countries to decide whether they wish to allow entry or not. Alternatively British/Israeli nationals will be able to use their Israeli passports for travel whilst retaining the rights of british citizens within the UK. What part of it is anti semitic? 12 passports were used possibly by Mossad or even by Egypt or Jordan. What would you do?

to recognize Israelis by "physical features and the way they speak." Isn't this called profiling? Will the Human Rights groups and Leftist political organizations protest this discrimination called profiling against Israelis, as they do for Arab's who have been terrorizing and bombing Western civilians for decades? I doubt it. Don't ever scratch your heads in disgust when you see Israelis have nothing but contempt for nations oblivious to this double standard against Jews.

I am not denying Britons their nationality, neither am I denying Britons the right to dual nationality. I am merely suggesting that after 12 (twelve) british passports whose owners are of joint British/Israeli nationality were implicated in a murder in Dubai that structures should be put in place to prevent further abuse. If you have any suggestions how to ensure confidence in the british Passports amongsts nations then I am all ears. Particularly with suggestions that Jordan and Egypt seem to have access, and the ability to forge passports of dual Israeli/British nationals.

I don't even want to anticipate how much business Dubai will lose, it is going to disgruntle a lot of business people and tourists. Of all countries, Israel is the least possible country to profile racially. because of all countries, Israelis come in all shapes and colors (from the blondest Swede to the darkest Ethiopian). Yes, and quite a significant number of inhabitants of Israel even look like you Arabs! O.k., you can pretty much rule out the Japanese. Good luck trying, and do let us know how it went, Dubai! LOL

Well Hamas how about convincing Dubai of their immediate conclusion(before even collecting all the facts). That is a ongoing problem with arab media blaming Israel for all bad in the world but never for anything good... Question? Why is there virtually no immigration to arab countries but mostly from arab countries?

So, no evidence of Mossad involvement and Hamas even says they suspect Jordan and Egypt. Notwithstanding, it's good that Chris knows better. And, thankfully, the UAE is training their officials to recognize Jews, and may even have specially trained Jew-sniffing dogs as the border to catch any Jew who refuses to carry the yellow star passsport (or tatoo?) that Chris suggests. Now we need to hear from Natallie Durson who I know has evidence that Jordan and Egypt are both controlled by the Mossad. In fact, the Jordanian and Egyptian intelligence services are really Mossad contract operations. C'mon, Nat, old girl, don't be shy. Show us your stuff.

The trouble with everyone staying where they are, is that it breaks some fundamental principles of international law. Most notably it would allow Israel to keep land seized in war and that breaks just about the most fundamental UN rule, which helps keep the world a slightly safer place. UN 242 specifically notes that any agreement should not violate the principle that territory can't be gained by war. You also need to do something about restoring rights or compensating Pal refugees from Israel and the same for Jews forced out of Middle Eastern countries. And nobody in the world, including the West, is ever going to specifically recognise Israel as Jewish state. It has a srong Jewish identity, fine, no problem, but there won't be recignition as a Jewish state. Does Israel, the ADL and AIPAC specifically recognise the US as a Christian state? Otherwise, great plan.

The Mossad was behind this killing. Even if there was an Egyptian or Jordanian proxy involved. These are the only two Arab states that have a peace treaty with Israel. The first step in finding a murderer is to assess motive. Since Israel always has the greatest motive in the death of any Hamas, Hizbollah, or other anti-Israel militant, this means that Israel will always be the prime suspect. When an "ally" of Israel is implicated, this does not remove all suspicion from Israel. It only goes to method and strategy. In this issue we see the usual two handed response of Israel. On the first hand Israel considers an active Mossad to be a deterrent to its enemies and an asse to the nation. On the other hand, when anything happens which points to Mossad involvement, Israel is all denials. We see this two handed Israeli response in many areas, including the IDF.

"Those who object can travel on their Israeli passport as an alternative. They can even revoke their British citizenship, which of course would be their choice. What is wrong with that?" Chris, I hold both a British and Israeli passport and I am proud to associate myself with both countries. Your proposal is wrong because it assumes that all dual passport holders are guilty before the fact i.e. because s/he has a British & Israeli passport s/he is going to abuse the British passport or possibly (unwittingly) allow it to be abused. Would you impose this type of measure on muslim Britons because some who have dual nationality have been involved in terrorism? I don't think you would - so please reconsider.

"You daily crap all over Israel ...and you have the nerve to question someone who tries to defend Israel. When you yourself can look inward and realize your problem with Jews and Israel...then maybe you will understand that the Middle East problem is not one sided. both groups need to give in. So far there HAS NEVER been any giving in by Arabs." European Zionists set out to establish a Jewish political entity in a majority Arab land. A number of Arab countries have already recognised that country. The Palestinians have recognise Israel within its pre-1967 borders and the rest of the Arab League has offered to recognise Israel within its pre-1967 borders. Try not to crap on the truth Arnold.

If the Hamas spokesman is correct and the whole Dubai killing was an inside job by the Arab groups themselves , are you still going to complain about the passports. Seems this is a major focal point for you if Mossad is the culprit.

But it would help preserve the integrity of the British passport System.

Sir, Being a Jew and Israeli I have vested interest in peace and indeed appreciate peace treaties with our important neighbors - Egypt and Jordan. It is very slow and difficult process in general - Russia and Japan still do not have peace treaty - and especially in ME. Talking about my "plan for peace in the ME" is a bit puerile - however I would volunteer opinion that prejudiced outsiders are not helpful. ps. What is your explanation of insistence on Israeli involvement even in the face of Hamas statement...

The only arrests so far are Palestinians. 3 of the "suspects" fled to Iran - does anyone actually believe Mossad would flee to Iran for safety? Now hamas says outright that they believe it was Jordan or Egypt behind the assassination. Do what does Dubai do? They come down harder on Israel. Even if every fingerprint in the hotel room & every photo of the 27 suspects can be identified as arab operatives, Dubai will continue to blame Israel. Isn't that par for the course? But when will the other coutries - like UK & Australia - that rushed to judgment against Israel offer a public apology? Don't hold your breath.

Would any nation send 27 people in a hitsquad ??? Normally 4-6 persons would reach the goals !!! The is a lot of things that do not add up !! The policechief i Dubai i acusing everyone on a false passport to på an Israeli spy !!! The chances is 50/50 - for it beeing Israel og an arab hitsquad ! Arabs looks wery different around the world......... Hoppefully the next hit wil be an important perosn in Lebanon.......looking forward to that squads pasportfotos !!!

finally, the truth is emerging...there was no way it was israel...27 people? not a chance...people with dual passports living in israel? not a chance. mossad would never do that... again, the scumbag is dead, so good riddance. as a canadian, if a canadian passport was used to do this, I would not care..as long as the earth was rid of a scumbag, I am all for it.

You daily crap all over Israel ...and you have the nerve to question someone who tries to defend Israel. When you yourself can look inward and realize your problem with Jews and Israel...then maybe you will understand that the Middle East problem is not one sided. both groups need to give in. So far there HAS NEVER been any giving in by Arabs.

to stars on clothes but first we mark the passports, then we mark their businesses damn, some europeeons just don't ever learn their continents war mongering mentality - started off the last century with annilation of certain groups of people and then ended the last century with the same stuff - did you forget bosnia, croatia and sebia chris - where is outrage over these horrible acts? why are you not down USA's throat with drone missle attacks on terrorists? it's ok when armica does it but when israel does it - it's not OK you are a idiot

I wasn't aware that the passports that you suggest weren't implicated in a murder in Dubai. Yet 12 (twelve) dual nationals with joint british/israeli citizenship are. Are you seriously suggesting that it should be business as usual? It doesn't have to be a visible means of identification that the General Public can see. It can be an electronic means of identification built into the new chips now embedded in passports. Which shows up when the passports are electronically scanned. Alternatively they can travel on their Israeli passport. I am not suggesting their citizenship be revoked, I am suggesting simple security measures, to ensure that the british passport can be accepted with confidence. Australia, Ireland, France and Germany may wish to follow suite.

BTW i wouldn't believe anything that the 2 Palestinians arrested would say. more than likely they will blame Israel, if they are ever seen or heard from again..

Chris, Whatever you do whatever you feel about being Brit, Brits would never see you as a Brit rather they will see you a Jew. Nazi Germany goes back to Germans whose Grandfather was Jews, may be your grandson will be Brit but not you in their eyes. Be sure that you'll obliged to mark your passport with a yellow star mark. What a pity. May be you are a mossad agent, who knows, It is an excellent way to hide. Aby You have to

1. Everybody stays put where they are today 2. Immediate unconditional recognition of Israel by all Muslim states as a Jewish state. 3. Israel recognises another Arab state 4. Agreement to disagree 5. Commitment never to use force to resolve issues 6. Full commitment to combat terrorism All other issues should be handled within the framework of the teh above 6 points

so what? There are many people of many colors belongings to many religions. " " " " who are have no religion or belief in any God.. We know the explosive results of radical extremists who murder in the name of a religious cause.( no matter what their appearance) We call them terrorists, they call themselves martyrs.. Ultimately, they die and are forgotten. No one of any society can allow them to create chaos and not be expected to respond in unison and remove them, one way, or, another. So, whatever you call them, they die, they accomplish nothing but to remove themselves from history eventually, w/o memory or thought., and still... nothing changes in their favor.

You are being facetious. What I am suggesting is that it is obvious that a british passport owned by someone who is an Israeli dual national should be marked so that it is easily identifiable, and can therefore subject to extra security measures. If as this story alleges, there is someone with access to israeli passport holders details who isn't stationed at Ben Gurion airport. Then the likliehood of it being abused by Al Qaeda amongst others is very high. We need to put extra security measures in place. I am sure you will agree, and the quickest and easiest way is to mark these passports as such.

The Mossad sends 27 agents(but it seems that accdg. to the Dubai Police Chief, this will soon total hundreds or even thousands of agents) to Dubai to assasinate one Hamas terrorist. The true identities of real Israelis are stolen by Israeli agents to get into Dubai. Why? I ask again, why? Even if the target were the head Hamas terrorist, Haniya, the Mossad would not operate in this manner. Egypt and Jordan are just as motivated as Israel to thwart Hamas, maybe even more. Mabhouh was in possession of something which would cause Egypt/Jordan damage. Thus, it seems certain that Jordan and/or Egypt were behind the hit, and in order to cover their tracks and avoid an internal Arab backlash, and to cause a setback to the rival Mossad, they used Israeli identities. A clever and well thought out plan and brilliantly executed. Kudos, Muhabarat, whichever nation you are from!!

However you sound like one. However 'the whole world knows Mosad did it' is agains the grain the principle of Justice. Innocent until proven guilty. I can not believe you do not know this basic principle. So where from comes your zeal to ignore this principle ONLY in case Israel is concerned. What is it called when you single out one race or cread for excessive critisism or prase?

It is not anti semitic. What it does is protect the integrity of the British passport whilst giving foreign governments the option of allowing entry or not. Those who object can travel on their Israeli passport as an alternative. They can even revoke their British citizenship, which of course would be their choice. What is wrong with that?

sooooo scientific! And he's the 'crack professional of international criminal investigations?' As if His attire isn't a clue as to his origin and tailoring... reminiscent of Omar the tent maker... Isn't that profiling? Or, a warrant for being a Jew?

Since the reestablishment of the State of Israel in 1948 (the same year Pakistan was partitioned from India) Algerian Muslims slaughtered 200,000 fellow Algerians, Lebanon 150,000 dead in civil war, Black September Jordan 1970, 10,000 dead Palestinians by Jordanian Army, 20,000 dead Muslims in Hama, Syria by Hafez el-Assad, 1,000,000 dead Muslims in Iran/Iraq War, Turkey?s war against the Kurds 34,000 dead Muslims, 400,000 Palestinians ethnically cleansed by Kuwait following Gulf War ? notice who is missing in all these? JEWS.

I'm curious. All you seem to do is come on here for hours hurling accusations of anti-semitism at critics of Israel. Do you actually have anything positive to say? How do you think realistically peace is going to come about in the Middle East, or aren't you interested in peace? People like Peter SM are at least open for discussion and to reveal their views. You seem to sit there with your head down, just sticking it up to hurl insults before ducking down again.

So you and Chris know who really did it? Wait a sec, some where European looking and had British pasports, some looked like Arabs. Is it really you and Chris, or you are only trying to impress us? If you did it thanks to you and Chris.

Hama's statements are holy. When it's not, Hamas does not know what they are talking about. And of course they are just a bunch of primitive bigotted anti semites.

What do you propose to do with Pakistanis,Indians,Australians,Russians,etc. well you get the picture. There is an afull lot of these people who hold dual citizenship and hold British passports. I have an idea, instead of marking the passports, why don't the British just paint these people a bright florescent pink, that way they will be easily recognized and spotted from far away at night or day, these people will not be able to hide from you.

"I never thought I will live a day to hear you call Hamas liers.HAMAS SAYS who are the suspects, and increadibly NOW you found out they are LIERS!Cause when they said they never targeted Israely children by Kassams YOU KNEW they were telling the truth." I've always referred to Hamas as terroists because that's what they are. I've never personally had a problem witH Israel killing terrorists. I DO object if israel unnecessarily ends up killing civilians and I'm not hugely keen on having UK passports abused. I think you'll find that's pretty much the majority view around the world. it's also the majority view that Mossad did the Dubai killing. You notice any country calling in the Jordanian or Egyptain abmssadors for a chat? Or is that because the entire world is anti-semitic in your view?

and now are blaming Israel for the Dubai hit,earning additional brownies with the arabs. Arrest British security officials sent to Israel ostensibly to "interview owners of the passes" They're prowling in hope of obtaining some additional info on Israel that could be passed on to the arabs.

Maybe you would approve of a yellow armband with a Mogen David rather than having it on the Israeli passport? Or am I being too critical?

Sir, Converts make the best antisemites

Well, maybe none of the assassins looked like Arabs, but the fact is the only people to be arrested so far as being participating in the assassination are two Palestinians living in Dubai and a Hamas operative.

prejudice against Jews is not supported. Which brings the main question - are they really pro Arab or just antisemitic - looks like the latter.

I have again written to my MP proposing that those British passport holders who also hold Israeli passports, should have them marked as such. Happy? There is a difference in tracking a suspect and killing a suspect. I still believe Mossad was responsible for the slaying. Ia also believe that the Israeli government sanctioned the illegal use of forged passports. There is a criminal investigation going on. I'll wait until the findings of this investigation before announcing that it is clearly a cover up.

Actually I have proposed that the British passports of those who also hold Israeli passports should be marked with the words "Also in possession of an Israeli Passport". Others have proposed a yellow star of David but I think that is a bit to far. If the Israeli government believe that it is OK to abuse the dual nationality system, then Israelis who hold second passports should be singled out for special treatment. Hopefully they will then put pressure on their government to ensure Israel never does this again. Happy?

none of has a clue what happened....use yr brains and realise that.... for all we know Dubai was involved.

I always found that Israelis (Jews) and Arabs to look the same. Some people here may be interested to know that there are also a lot of blond blue eyed Arabs.

We know who really did it!

clos his bank account, hahaha

Here is Hamas logic. "Watch this World! We have the Sun on our side now! It is against Israel. The Sun is on the side of Hamas and Ahmadinejad today because it is shining! If Israel says the Sun is shining there too. Don't believe them. That's Zionist Propaganda!"

I never thought I will live a day to hear you call Hamas liers. HAMAS SAYS who are the suspects, and increadibly NOW you found out they are LIERS! Cause when they said they never targeted Israely children by Kassams YOU KNEW they were telling the truth. I guess Hamas is just a Mossad agent in Gaza

If it was suspicion before it is for sure now. What a mess the Arabs are in ! Hamas= Mossad front Fatah= Mossad front Al Queda= Mossad front

Hamas supects Egypt or Jordan and you insists that Israel did the killing.You are dumb.

your comment supports what this "investigation" looks like... you pick someone (you wish) to be accused/guilty, and then try to proof this. thats not police work. imho: at the end of the day we will see, it was exactly this approach what doomed your "investigation" from day 1.

Racial profiling. This smacks of Nazi Germany. Lesson 1. How to identify a Jew: Large hooked nose, small beady eyes,hunched back... Come on. So people wearing Crocs will be suspected of being Israeli now? Ironically a lot of Arabs look more Jewish than I do and I know that as a dual-national, I wouldn't be stopped in Dubai.

Great deduction, detective!! Think it's possible that the Arab governments blamed by Hamas might be smart enough to use non-Arab-looking agents?? You and that Dubai police chief ought to go to Hollywood and do a remake of the Keystone Cops!

As time goes on, Arab relationships with reality get flimsier and flimsier...

Hasn't anyone raised the possibility that Dubai gave its silent agreement to the assassination of Mabhouh? Dubai certainly doesn't care for Hamas, and it would seem logical that Dubai should have no objection to the hit. So it co8ld be that all the hot air coming out of the Dubai chief of police is a coverup.

Let's see if the Europeans and Australians are as filled with righteous zeal over their precious passports if it turns out it was an Arab intelligence agency that forged them. Hypocrites.

Susan, Dubai is way safer than Israel, there's no history of terrorist attacks there. That's why they're so pissed off at Israel: they won't allow anyone to mess with their internal security. I bet Mossad is not going twice there. Of course it's shameful that the Dubai authorities, usually moderate, would let their police chief utter such racist rantings as saying he'll identify Israelis on their "looks". They should definitely take him away from the press. That said, the Israeli accent when speaking english is super easy to recognize. So you may want to perfect your Brooklyn accent when traveling...

It's conceivable that either country could have helped Mossad, but there's no way the actual operation was carried out by Egyot or Jordan. Neither country's intelligence agency is going to send 27 people who look like Israelis to kill a Hamas member. Where would they find all these people anyway and how would they have Israeli? Why not just send a few low-key Arab assassins and if you really want to implicate Israel, do something subtle and small-scale.

If you ever wondered why there is a technological 'Gulf' between Israel and its backward neighbors, then this article indicates it nicely.

Has the formerly ubiquitous Mr Linthwaite suddenly gone to ground? Surely not. Surely he's busy penning a strongly worded letter to his local Member of Parliament demanding a SOCA investigation into the intelligence services of Jordan and Egypt. Can't have these blighters flouting international law now, can we?

If you ever wondered why there is a technological 'Gulf' between Israel and its backward neighbors, then this article indicates it nicely.

Israeli propaganda at it's best. Anybody can look at the video and see clearly that the assassins are not arabs. Dubai Cheif Of Police say that the assassins were Mossad, and thats just the way it is...

I am Jewish, but have been told I don't look it. I look like a regular American white person. I have a perfect American accent. If I came on a US passport, issued in the US with no Israeli stamps on it, how would they ever know? Not that I would go to Dubai, now that we know it is a haven for terrorists.

with the race ban, they now order the US to investigate. as this credit-card-thing is of course a dead track, we already know, it will fail to find anything useful, what will be blamed on the US-Israeli-"friendship"... a mass murderer and arms dealer was killed and left as he was sleeping in a 5-star-hotel. nobody else was harmed. the team payed their bills, waving a polite good-buy into the cctv cams. its not "embarrassing", when a murder case isnt solved. happens all time around the world. in fact it spiced up the story. they had the chance to make a really big (PR-)deal out of this murder investigation. instead they messed up their whole country and reputation with this stupid "insulting" and "race" screams.

When Hamas send 8000 rockets and loads of suicide bombers at Israel, Israel gets criticised for both surgical retributions and ground-based incursions, i.e. the world cannot envisage a scenario in which Jews should protect their nation like any other country would do without blinking. How many Al Quaeda and Taliban are hunted down every day? When one of the senior Hamas terrorists - a guy whose trade in arms pushes peace for Palestinians as well as the region and the world that bit further away all the time - gets whacked, we get all this furore. More proof that even in times of war (and Iran is definitely at war with Israel / U.S. / UK etc through its proxies in Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan) it's not ok for Jews to fight back. And that's even if it was Mossad.

Is there no chance that Secret Services hire freelancers rather than people with their country's typical looks / accents? Ridiculous excuse to keep Jews and Israelis out of Dubai. If Dubai police are so clever, can't they differentiate? Or is the racism just convenient for them? No Jews blow up planes. Still no evidence that this was Mossad, yet Racial Profiling against all Israelis (probably all Jews by the sound of it) is underway nonetheless.

his speeches echo increasingly Ahmadinejad's ugly mantras.

he deserved. I seems you know nothing about terrorism.

Where is Chris Linthwaite when you need him? He is always very vocal against Racial Profiling when it is used to stop an Islamofascist doing damage to Israel or her Allies. Let's hear from you now Chris.

this comic is getting funnier every day with collective stupidities !

I recall a couple of weeks ago Livni promised to come to the UK to test its determination to arrest her on war crimes charges. I wonder how the plans are going; and what reaction she expects to get on her arrival given the passport forgeries. Methinks she may not come after all. She can stay in the Israeli prison of its governments own making; with nowhere to go or hide. Maybe with a wig and a dodgy Aussie or British passport courtesy of Mossad, she can sneak out.

ABC International 24 February 2010 In documents obtained by ABC News, Dubai police linked Meta Bank to a New York company called Payoneer, which provided prepaid MasterCard credit cards issued by Meta Bank. According to its Web site, Payoneer has a development center in Tel Aviv.

Israel sucks atm, what kind of democracy is this. Killing other people, even if they are bad, makes no sense in the long run. Look at at the Goldstone report. Atrocities all over the place. I have a lot of respect for the Jews but for the IL govermnent I put my thumbs down.

MetaBank is in Storm Lake Iowa and Sioux Falls South Dakota. They issue cards to just about anybody, probably even al Qaida, if somebody sends them money. The cards are prepaid. If any records exist other than the transfers of cash to open the cards, it would be surprising. Perfect shell if each transfer is under $10,000 - The good ole Patriot Act.

dubais clouseau doesnt explain why the terrorists forged identities dont require aban on the citizens of the ban on the countries issuing them ?

a Purim joke... only reporting similar request to KGB would of being even bigger Purim joke.