• Published 00:00 13.11.07
  • Latest update 00:00 13.11.07

Hamas arrests scores of Fatah activists after Arafat rally in Gaza

At least 7 people killed after Hamas fired on rally; IDF, PA sources: Hamas' most extreme faction now controls Gaza.

By Avi Issacharoff, The Associated Press and Amos Harel Tags: Hamas Gaza Fatah Yasser Arafat

Hamas has rounded up scores of Fatah activists in the Gaza Strip following a Monday rally that drew more than 200,000 supporters and ended in gunfire that killed seven people, officials said on Tuesday.

Islam Shahwan, spokesman of the Hamas-led Executive Force, said it had detained about 50 Fatah members since the rally.

"They are the ones who planned and organised the rally yesterday and are suspected of being responsible for the chaos that took place," Shahwan said.

Fatah official Hazem Abu Shanab said Hamas security forces arrested 400 Fatah members and dozens more were ordered to report to police stations for questioning.

At least 55 people wounded in exchanges of fire between Hamas forces and Fatah supporters, in the worst interfactional fighting in Gaza since Hamas violently seized the Strip in June.

All of the fatalities were either Fatah members or passersby. Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas blamed Hamas, terming its actions "an abominable crime."

Gaza City was quiet and tense the morning after the violence, with few Hamas policemen in evidence on the streets. Schools were closed in mourning.

In an interview Monday with The Associated Press, Fatah's former strongman in the Strip said the rally showed that Hamas was losing its grip on power.

Dahlan called for more rallies and said Monday's march will "shorten the suffering of the Palestinian people and will shorten the life of this bloody movement [Hamas]."

The clashes erupted after Hamas policemen tried to disperse a memorial march in Gaza City marking the third anniversary of Yasser Arafat's death. The rally, the largest ever held in the Gaza Strip, attracted more than 200,000 people, who waved pictures of Arafat, yellow Fatah flags, and black and white kaffiyehs as they listened to speeches by several Fatah leaders.

IDF, PA sources: Hamas' most extreme faction now in control of Gaza

Hamas' most extreme faction is now effectively in control of the Gaza Strip, Palestinian and Israel Defense Forces sources have told Haaretz.

The Gaza sources said Monday that the rift within Hamas' leadership is worsening, and the more extreme faction has taken over the organization in the Strip.

The sources said the faction includes most of Hamas' military wing, and is led by former foreign minister Mahmoud a-Zahar, head of the military wing Ahmad Jabari, and former interior minister Sa'id Siyam.

It relies on Iranian funding, the sources said, and is conducting a completely independent policy: It no longer listens to either Khaled Meshal, head of the organization's Damascus-based political office, or Hamas prime minister Ismail Haniyeh.

The sources estimated that Haniyeh controls at most 30 percent of Hamas' fighting forces - even among the Executive Force, which is technically subordinate to his government.

Senior IDF officers offered a similar assessment. The military wing, controlled by Jabari, has effectively gained control of Gaza, they said; this faction ignores directives from Meshal and dictates to Haniyeh.

The extremist faction seeks to reproduce Hamas' takeover of Gaza in the West Bank. Haniyeh's faction, in contrast, believes the takeover of Gaza was a mistake, and has no desire to repeat it in the West Bank.

Fatah supporters running for cover during clashes at Monday's major Gaza rally in honor of Yasser Arafat.

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  • 71. 0 0
    Hamas Arrested protestors - Trials next
    • * BEN JABO
    • 15.11.07
    • 15:32

    We can be certain the trials will be on par with the Salem Witch Trials--Puritan "Ducked" those that were charged, if they drowned, they were innocent--Hamas will hold the trials on highrise buildings, accused will be thrown off, if the die when they hit the ground, they will be exonerated--Those that survive the ordeal will be shot because they're guilty--the great new democratic society of Hamastan will prevail--Power to the thugs--

  • 70. 0 0
    #66 mark B - My answer
    • CK Tan
    • 15.11.07
    • 09:57

    "Are you a jewish Chinese? Why do you BOTHER so much about Israel?" (my EMPHASIS) Why I BOTHER? OK, I am an illegal Singapore-Chinese immigrant working as a free-lance gardener (but I don't take off my clothes like some other fellow workers do) at Wisteria Lane, Fairview, USA. The grass is always green and tidy in this town (can't understand why) and I am practically being paid to do very little. Bored to death by Mary Young's incessant moralising, I pin a world map on a wall, cover my eyes and throw a dart at it. I check and the dart has landed on Israel. This is now I started to bother with Israel. So why are you curious about my story?

  • 69. 0 0
    2nd Try,To all the zionists jumping up & down,do read my post to
    • lakshmi
    • 14.11.07
    • 03:59

    El Birawi(40).I don't want to repeat myself.I have to add 2 things: I did not say that shooting into a crowd is okay,I merely said that it is an early report,let's wait & see. The hardline Hamas man Mahommed Zahar has called for an immediate investigation into the shooting and punishment for whoever did it !

  • 68. 0 0
    #54 DUTCH
    • DANNY
    • 14.11.07
    • 02:59

    I SUPPOSE ,IN YOUR VIEW, THAT ANY ORGANIZATION,THAT PROTECTS ISRALEI/JEWISH LIVES IS DESPICABLE.THE FIRST DUTY OF ANY GOVERNMENT AND ITS VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS IS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF ITS CITIZENS.MI5,CIA ASIO(IN AUSTRALIA) ARE A FEW ORGANIZATIONS AF WHICH I SPEAK.

  • 67. 0 0
    Haha, Ovadiah ben Avraham @10
    • Mark B.
    • 14.11.07
    • 02:40

    Brilliant man, thanks for the laugh. Now your problem may be some stonehard anti-Semites will believe every word you write. But that is keeping up the good work as well, is it not?

  • 66. 0 0
    Question to C.K. Tan
    • Mark B.
    • 14.11.07
    • 02:36

    Are you a jewish Chinese? Why do you bother so much about Israel? Just curious you know.

  • 65. 0 0
    #54 DEMENTED DUTCH
    • * BEN JABO
    • 14.11.07
    • 02:09

    And YOU are a despicable coward--

  • 64. 0 0
    #48 Adrian de Klerk- It wasn't Mossad
    • * BEN JABO
    • 14.11.07
    • 02:08

    Mossad was too busy, they sent in a troop of Israeli Boyscouts to do the job--

  • 63. 0 0
    Have they settled who are the bigger Sodomists?
    • PETER S.M.
    • 14.11.07
    • 01:07

    Who does what to whom in what Mosque.?

  • 62. 0 0
    Polybios #49, well put, and amen to the third intifada
    • Johnny
    • 14.11.07
    • 00:59

    Being one aimed at hamas by other palestinians. It sure seems to go that way.

  • 61. 0 0
    lakshmi, of course hamas will prevail, they kill their enemies
    • Johnny
    • 14.11.07
    • 00:57

    Once the west has seen the full commitment by hamas to kill of those they don't like, the west will kill hamas like insects.

  • 60. 0 0
    Re #53 by gino on palestinian culture
    • Johnny
    • 14.11.07
    • 00:54

    You are very right in you statement about "palestinian" culture. "Palestinian" culture is the most void of all known to humans. The only thing they care of is death and killings. What a shameful culture.

  • 59. 0 0
    Lakshmi, you aware intelligence services are tracking you?
    • Johnny
    • 14.11.07
    • 00:52

    Your personal information is known to those who needs to know it.

  • 58. 0 0
    Silvienne is a clown
    • Johnny
    • 14.11.07
    • 00:34

    With a long red nose.

  • 57. 0 0
    To all the zionists who are jumping up & down,do read my post 40
    • lakshmi
    • 14.11.07
    • 00:21

    to El Birawi.I won't repeat myself,except to say 2 things: I did not say that it is okay to shoot into a crow,I was simply reporting what was reported in the early reports. Secondly,hardliner Mohammmed Zahar has called for an immediate enquiry into the event and punishment for those responsible!

  • 56. 0 0
    # DR where are they?they're hiding behind
    • nmf
    • 13.11.07
    • 23:35

    civilians.

  • 55. 0 0
    how can they have their own state
    • nmf
    • 13.11.07
    • 23:30

    if they're divided?

  • 54. 0 0
    #21Clickfool, Mossad is a dispicable organization
    • Dutch
    • 13.11.07
    • 22:38

    Hello Clickfool, I agree Mossad is a dispicable organization and it is responsible for crimes throughout the region and this present unrest too. It's time as US tax payers we limit the extent of their role as a pre-condition of Israel's military aid. We can't have those thugs and murderers stirring up trouble and shamefullly killing Palestinian. Their actions should come under Human Rights violations which the Boston Conference group wants to use to rein in the Israelis. Dutch P.S. What did you think of Gordon Brown's remarks today on the US. I was disgusted. He should know better.

  • 53. 0 0
    Killing- the Palestinian national sport
    • gino
    • 13.11.07
    • 22:26

    How can anyone expect Israel to make peace with the Palestinians when violence dominates there culture. The Arabs have contributed nothing to mankind other than suicide bombers in the last 1000 years. NOTHING!! 911 woke up the entire CIVILIZED world(non muslim nations), and we join Israel in it's battle against the death loving, women beating, sex deprived, beheaders, better known as the Arab league.

  • 52. 0 0
    To clichefool #34
    • Larry
    • 13.11.07
    • 22:03

    "They think I don`t see them with their cameras and cloak and dagger, and that I don`t hear the white noise in my telephone." Did you ever consider getting medical treatment for you paranoia/schizophrenia?

  • 51. 0 0
    Yonatan re Lakshmi (#42)
    • Gil
    • 13.11.07
    • 21:40

    Luckshen has put her foot on her mouth today, and she`s really getting all the flak she deserves. Well yes she is! And please lets call that noodle country she comes from by name, Gaza! Lakshmi thought you should know MOSAD are on to you!

  • 50. 0 0
    Yonatan re Lakshmi (#42)
    • Gil
    • 13.11.07
    • 21:39

    Luckshen has put her foot on her mouth today, and she`s really getting all the flak she deserves. Well yes she is! And please lets call that noodle country she comes from by name, Gaza! Lakshmi thought you should know MOSAD are on to you!

  • 49. 0 0
    Lakshmi - it's so funny to see you using...
    • Polybios
    • 13.11.07
    • 20:26

    the same arguments which Israel defenders have been using for years, and which until recently you've been condemning. "It's ok to shoot at stone-throwers;" if Hamas is doing the shooting. You say: It's hard to maintain a clean safe Gaza when Israel et al "are prepared to create confusion." Wow. Sounds just like the Israeli argument that it's hard to maintain a safe, fair Israel while terrorists are trying to wreak havoc. Never mind that in Hamas's Gaza Christians have been beaten and robbed, killed, and forcibly converted to Islam, by your gun-toting, freedom-fighting heroes. Or repressing journalists and freedom of speech. As long as it's Hamas doing the oppressing, you call it "order." But read the posts from El Birawi, and Pal Defender. Thye say you're wrong about Hamas. In your infinite arrogance, you try to be more Palestinian than the Palestinians. No problem. Looks like the third intifada is going to be the intifada in Gaza against your favorite terrorist group.

  • 48. 0 0
    Massad at it again
    • Adrian de Klerk
    • 13.11.07
    • 20:05

    Daaaaam..... these Mossad agents are the best in the world. Is there anything they cant do?? They not only start shooting at a Fatah rally they have even arrested dozens of Fatah supporters as well. If only these guys were in the CIA.

  • 47. 0 0
    For Tex # 28
    • Clickfool
    • 13.11.07
    • 19:56

    "The bottom line is that Clickfool is still on Haaretz after 5+ years of inane ramblings" I know it seems longer to Zionists like you, Tex, but I've actually been posting on Talkback for less than 2 years now. Plenty more to come, though.....

  • 46. 0 0
    Silvienne - Eagerly awaiting your condenmnation
    • * BEN JABO
    • 13.11.07
    • 19:56

    of Hamas' killing of stone throwers--When Israel does it, you're the first to complain-- I've posted the following in a few places--It's your turn to condemn Hamas--"Linthwaite - you really are small Name: * BEN JABO City: USA State: and ungrateful--I`m still waiting for the apology you owe, concerning that post you made when you tried to deceive us about Peikin village--Here `s part of it, the most pertinent part, the police were attacked with gunfire, etc.." #163 LINTHWAITE Name: * BEN JABO City: USA State: You`ve had enough time to recover from reading the facts--It`s about time apologized for your attempted deception-- "Here it is again, please pay attention: "Koren said the incident began while the arrests were taking place. ?He said a group of young men, aged between 17 and 24, began firing shots at police and hurled stun and tear gas grenades?."

  • 45. 0 0
    lakshmi,a "provocative & incendiary statement" is what we call in
    • terrornator
    • 13.11.07
    • 19:53

    america,freedom of speech,something you know nothing of in the arab/muslim world.your going to have to change your name in these forums when hamas is exposed for the murders and power hungry war mongers,that they are.had any crow to eat lately?

  • 44. 0 0
    For Joltin Joe # 32
    • Clickfool
    • 13.11.07
    • 19:51

    "Do you really believe that you are so important that the Mossad would waste their time posting fake messages on Talkback?" Of course not, Joe - where did you get that idea? "Mossad Fake Clickfool" is simply a name I attach to the Talkback Zionist who leaves messages under my name suggesting that Mossad are doing all sorts of ridiculously impossible things. My all-time favourite was when he suggested (under my name) that the evil Mossad had planted atomic reactors in the polar icecaps to hasten global warming and bring down destruction on everyone (I jest not). For the record, i think Mossad are a useless bunch of tosspots who couldn't even nick a New Zealand passport without getting caught.

  • 43. 0 0
    clickfool post # 22 RE:lakshmi,is for you also,if you know how to
    • terrornator
    • 13.11.07
    • 19:48

    read.sorry for not putting your name in the title,too.the mossad made me do it.

  • 42. 0 0
    Luckshen has put her foot on her mouth today
    • Yonatan
    • 13.11.07
    • 19:30

    and she's really getting all the flak she deserves. N.B, "Luckshen" is Yiddish for "noodles", and Lakshmi, I believe, lives in or near noodle country.

  • 41. 0 0
    to lackshmi#31
    • Ilya
    • 13.11.07
    • 18:40

    I take it that you agree with what ChanaS said in her post, right. From now it is permitted to everybody to shoot stone throwers in self-defence. Do not you think that if Hamas prevails as you stated in your post it will look like a green and clean cemetery.

  • 40. 0 0
    25 El Birawi,don't you think that it's time abbas resign,after
    • lakshmi
    • 13.11.07
    • 18:28

    disgraceful capitulation & collaboration with israel ? He now begs israel to stay in the West Bank,to save his own hide.Fayyad(and Third Way) are a joke!The only genuine Resistance Movement is Hamas.israel does not understand non violence.Forget Gandhi,Martin Luther King et al. An armed struggle(as with the ANC in South Africa)plus international divestment & pressure campaigns,including UN suspension of israel by a majority vote in the General Assembly(as happened with former apartheid South Africa)by passing the SC's veto,will work.For heaven's sake abbas scuttled the Quatar resolution calling for an end to the vile siege of Gaza.Now his underlining is trying to get the SC to condemn Hamas,at the israel-u.s.cabal's prompting.Ain't going to happen,though. There is not& cannot be equivalence between these abject creatures and the Hamas Movement,who at least have spent years in dedicated social service to the community.Mohammed Zahar has called for an immediate investigation &punishmen

  • 39. 0 0
    Lakshmi (#3) Approves of Firing Live Bullets at STONE THROWERS!
    • Gil
    • 13.11.07
    • 17:55

    Lakshmi HOW COME You Approve of Firing Live Bullets at STONE THROWERS? So Lakshmi, What is so wrong with Israeli troops firing RUBBER bullets at protesters that throw STONES? Should we fire REAL ones next time, to get your approval and support? Funny Lukshmi that you are not devastated seeing Palestinians killing Palestinians, and when it comes to that, you find answers you usually wouldn`t approve of, if it was done by the Israeli side! So Lakshmi what does it make you? We are waiting for your answer!

  • 38. 0 0
    Lakshmi (#3) Approves of Firing Live Bullets at STONE THROWERS!
    • Gil
    • 13.11.07
    • 17:55

    Lakshmi HOW COME You Approve of Firing Live Bullets at STONE THROWERS? So Lakshmi, What is so wrong with Israeli troops firing RUBBER bullets at protesters that throw STONES? Should we fire REAL ones next time, to get your approval and support? Funny Lukshmi that you are not devastated seeing Palestinians killing Palestinians, and when it comes to that, you find answers you usually wouldn`t approve of, if it was done by the Israeli side! So Lakshmi what does it make you? We are waiting for your answer!

  • 37. 0 0
    Free speech is alive and well in Hamastan
    • Even Steven
    • 13.11.07
    • 17:44

    well, alive and well until the shooting and the mass arrests begin. Typical for an Islamist regime .. hey, let's send them more money!

  • 36. 0 0
    Shame On Haaretz...Once Again
    • AnakAdeen
    • 13.11.07
    • 17:42

    The caption title of this article should read, "Hamas Murders 7 Palestinians!!!". Avi and Amos, either you have a serious problem with your priorities, or you have become so unfeeling when it comes to human tragedy. Sad and Shame.

  • 35. 0 0
    Lackwit
    • Joe Slovo
    • 13.11.07
    • 17:15

    So you are sure that it's Israel's fault that they beat people lying on the ground, that they throw people from rooftops. Jews are wonderful arent they, forcing Hamas thugs those angelic beings, to commit such crimes

  • 34. 0 0
    Fake Shabak/Mossad "Clickfool" # 21
    • Clickfool
    • 13.11.07
    • 17:11

    And yet another boring attemt to portray me as a Mossad agent, while I'm one of their most ardous enemies. They think I don't see them with their cameras and cloak and dagger, and that I don't hear the white noise in my telephone. There has never - and will never - be a crime comitted in the ME which is not a direct result of Shabak/Mossad activity and the Zionist entity as a whole. And tell me please: why are "Palestinians" always masked when they attack other Palestinians? And why are they allways reported to be shouting orders to eachother in Hebrew. Now, please explain away this little piece of evidence all you defenders of the childkillers in the IDF!

  • 33. 0 0
    Where are Sylivienne, POP, Dutch???
    • DR
    • 13.11.07
    • 17:02

    Where are the usual apologists for this culture of hate and death? Where are their excuses for this vile act? Where are their accusations towrds Israel? The hypocricy of these people is unbelieveable!

  • 32. 0 0
    Clickfool #21: How Presumptuous!
    • Joltin Joe
    • 13.11.07
    • 16:56

    Do you really believe that you are so important that the Mossad would waste their time posting fake messages on Talkback?

  • 31. 0 0
    CK Tan,chanah s. and other critics,cool down,shooting into
    • lakshmi
    • 13.11.07
    • 16:52

    into the crowd is the report so far.I would wait & see.Hard to maintain a clean,safe Gaza when the u.s.-israel cabal& the quislings are prepared to create confusion & chaos once again in Gaza.the quisling abbas' prepared speech was clearly incendiary.Early days yet,Hamas will prevail against the agent provocateurs.

  • 30. 0 0
    The authorities of Hamastan in action: First the shoot to kill
    • Tuti
    • 13.11.07
    • 16:47

    their subjects then they round them and arrest their leaders. And some appologists here still maintain that Israel needs to feed, cloth, provide shelter, electricity, petrol and raw materials to these mass murderers. Shame on you appologiests. If it were not the Jewish state involved in the conflict you wouldn't care less about Hamastan, but having the need to blame everything Jewish Israel brings you here, to blame everything Jewish Israel. Shame on you! Shame on you!

  • 29. 0 0
    clickfool has a twin - fake clickfool?
    • CK Tan
    • 13.11.07
    • 16:43

    Or he has been caught lying (again) and trying to extricate himself out of this embarrassment? Who cares - fools are fools, whether they click or not.

  • 28. 0 0
    Mossad Controls Clickers
    • Tex
    • 13.11.07
    • 16:33

    Real Mossad, fake Mossad, successful Mossad, or foolish Mossad. The bottom line is that Clickfool is still on Haaretz after 5+ years of inane ramblings that do anything but hide the fact that Sussex, England has a raging, flaming, idiot in their midst.

  • 27. 0 0
    Palestinians and riots
    • Eli Israeli
    • 13.11.07
    • 16:25

    "abbas had been given the green light by washington to hold the rally.Currently,the coward is begging israel to stay on in the West Bank to save his hide!" Since when do Palestinians need a green light to start a riot ? Abbas has more chance to give the Palestinians a state than Hamas does. And Hamas has a bigger chance to bring the Palestinians another Naqba than Abbas has.Apparently you are willing to sacrifice thousands of Palestinian lives in order to give Hamas a go at Israel that most probably will fail miserably as most Palestinian attacks on Israel do.

  • 26. 0 0
    mea clupa
    • clikcfool
    • 13.11.07
    • 16:25

    anything less would be uncivilized.

  • 25. 0 0
    Hamas thugs are no different than Fatah thugs.
    • El-Birawi
    • 13.11.07
    • 16:25

    Hamas leaders in Gaza should have known and anticipate that Fatah thugs will behave like thugs and they will instigate a fight. Hamas leaders did not prepare for this and the result was the unwanted and shameful death of so many innocent people. It seems that Hamas thugs within the "Tanfiethia" are no different from Fatah thugs within the "Preventive Security". Too bad for all Palestinians that the legacy of Arafat was and is nothing but reckless thugury and a culture of guns and killings. This is what the PA is all about, and even at this is, it is a failure. Hamas did not do much better and did not learn from the fatal mistakes of Fatah, it is also run by leaders whose culture is guns and violence and not liberation. All honorable Palestinians should be shameful of these acts of thugry and violence. May Allah help us when we get a state of our own, our choices will be either a Taliban state of a Saddam like state. What choices. I tell our people forget about an independent state.

  • 24. 0 0
    HAMAS ARE THE ARABS WORST ENEMY
    • B.Heddem
    • 13.11.07
    • 16:16

    Hamas are a bunch of terrorist murderers and probably torturers too.It is time Fatah and all reasonable Arabs joined Israel in peace thereby giving the Arab population hope for the future.How sad to see a whole culture drown in hate,thoughts of blood,bullets and torture.Arabs need to rise up against their corrupt leaders and seek peace.Israel needs to call elections now.

  • 23. 0 0
    lakshmi and quislings
    • Lynn
    • 13.11.07
    • 16:09

    It seems some of the quislings are Iranian stooges. Shame on you for celebrating the deaths of Muslims. If it had been IDF, you would never condemn the stone throwers. You seem to always back the dead horse.

  • 22. 0 0
    lakshmi # 3 throwing stones is no reason to shoot into a crowd of
    • terrornator
    • 13.11.07
    • 16:09

    civillians,after all stones can't hurt anyone.isn't that what you say when the stones and quassams are coming from the pals.you arab appeasers look so foolish when you apply your double standards.and clickfool,this rally was planned nearly fifty years ago.you see,they picked arafat as the leader of the pals because they knew he would die,on the day he did,therefore,they knew they would have this opportunity on the third anniversary of his death to have this rally,involking murder of palestinian citizens by hamas members.like you said,it's awfully suspicous that arafat would have the gaul to die on a day that would,three years later,preceed peace talks between israel and the pals.coincidence,i don't think so,matter of fact,i'm sure the mossad planed this when arafat became leader of pal land.thanks for "opening" everyones eyes to this phenomenon set of occurrences.we all just thought a fight broke out at a rally,commerating the death of arafat,how stupid could we have been.LMFAO!!!!!!!

  • 21. 0 0
    The sudden return (TAR-RA!!) of Mossad Fake Clickfool # 1
    • Clickfool
    • 13.11.07
    • 16:04

    "As always, suspicions fall on the Mossad" Perhaps the Zionist who masquerades as Mossad Fake Clickfool has been away on holiday, but - checking the pathetically grateful responses to this message, from CK Tan, H, Ovadiah ben Avraham and The Equalizer - he's been much missed. No, folks - this talk of Mossad is a dead giveaway. I rarely refer to them directly and nearly always in the context of the bungled attempt to steal a passport in New Zealand. Mossad are the Keystone Kops of world intelligence services, and aren't worth a second of anyone's comment.

  • 20. 0 0
    Lakshmi Sings: "Why Can't the Arabs Kill More Jews?"
    • Tex
    • 13.11.07
    • 15:52

    This Arab on Arab murder and detention spree has got to stop!!!

  • 19. 0 0
    As Always, More Fool Than Click
    • Tex
    • 13.11.07
    • 15:50

    As always, an Arab is commiting a crime against people he does not know personally, but hates immensely. As always, Clickfool will read about the crime on Haaretz, and then post his diatribe against the Mossad in Talkback. As always, I will read what Clicky says, and will laugh till I fart. As always, that fart will be more intelligent than anything Clickfool has said over the past 5+ years he has posted his diatribes on Haaretz. As always, the fart will dissipate in mid-air, but Clickfool's insanity will linger till the end of time. And, as always, the Jewish state of Israel will remain, no matter the stupidity of Clickfool, who will get outsmarted by a dungbeattle ALL THE TIME.

  • 18. 0 0
    arafat legacy , benefiting vultures, and undertakers,nice!
    • Gabriel
    • 13.11.07
    • 15:31

    pales wake up ! and take chrge of yur own destiny, your biggest problem is not how to make peace with Israel, its to get rid of panarabism and rigid islam views that you keep on teaching your children. if you ever com up with a true olive brnch peace will be waiting for you. look at Egypt nd JORDAN, they got back thier territories through peace, Israel has no beef with you.

  • 17. 0 0
    APROPRIATE memorial for Arafat.Dead and wounded civillians
    • PETER S .M.
    • 13.11.07
    • 15:05

    No amount of spin will deflect it was Pal killing Pal

  • 16. 0 0
    #1 same old dull and unimaginative Clicky
    • The Equalizer
    • 13.11.07
    • 14:40

    Same old, same old retreaded, but not rethought parakeetic and budgegareegaric diatribe. Come on now old chap, certainly you can try to earn a little respect and credibility.

  • 15. 0 0
    Massacre in Gaza!!!
    • Chaim Jacobs
    • 13.11.07
    • 14:23

    7 dead. Is a massacre only when Jews kill Arabs (in self-defence)?

  • 14. 0 0
    FATAH/MODERATES Must Win/Prevail! Hamas, Etc. Must Lose.
    • Proud Pal Defender
    • 13.11.07
    • 14:10

    No Matter What One Thinks About Anyone In This Conflict (& Others)-- One thing is clear: Warmongers/Conflict Mongers, Extremists (settlers, Hamas, etc.), Peace Saboteurs, Etc.....MUST NOT BE ALLOWED to prevail in our world! WE Can Succeed Or They WILL Succeed-- We MUST come together...against these people/Extremists! Two Things Though (In This Conflict)-- --Israel CAN`T use this as an excuse (something it always does) to postpone/deny the Palestinians peace/their state. After all, they/their horrific treatment, oppression, occupation, etc....caused this. Peace/the Palestinian State CAN NO LONGER BE postponed! ...NO excuses!!!! --Israel...must allow Fatah/Moderates to use EXTERNAL allies (a practice that is common among most) to take on Hamas...militarily (if they choose to). ...It has been weakened by Israel over many years. HOWEVER-- TERRITORIAL SEPARATION is preferred (see my other post). GOOD LUCK Fatah/Moderates! ...We support you & wish you well.

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    SOLUTION: Hamas, Etc. In Gaza And Fatah In The West Bank.
    • Proud Pal Defender
    • 13.11.07
    • 14:05

    There Are Few Good Solutions With Hamas/Those Who Want To Continue Fighting-- You can`t send all of them to Iran & Syria...because then they will get together & be free to do attacks around the world. So...Hamas, etc. must be contained. Since-- Everything is up in the air now/territory is now being negotiated...now would be a good time...to do some other adjustments. Solution-- Put all of Hamas/those who want to continue fighting in Gaza...& Fatah/those who want peace...in the West Bank (with E. Jerusalem as their capital). I know Israel desperately wants them to have a civil war...but. The North/South Korean Example-- Gaza will remain Palestinian territory/remain Palestinian territory to negotiate...and...in the event that Hamas/others come around to wanting peace, etc...THEN reunification is possible. Palestinian Progress/State-- Must not be sacrificed because of Hamas, etc.

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    #3 Lakshmi--Hamas' Lies Are OBVIOUS! Support PEACE.
    • Proud Pal Defender
    • 13.11.07
    • 14:02

    Lakshmi-- The handwriting is on the wall for Hamas. They began to seal their fate when they put themselves above the needs/future of Palestinians, & fought more to keep themselves in power, than they "fought" to make the needed adjustments in their positions, etc....which was best for ALL Palestinians. They Further-- Have harassed, tortured, beaten & abused...people from various factions in Gaza (Fatah & other). ...Not to mention various other things...that have contributed to their decline among Palestinians. Now-- They have killed people at the rally to remember Arafat's death. Your Claim About Rocks-- Are the same that Israelis give for shooting innocent Palestinians. ...Guns against rocks? Come on! And: Hamas has obviously lied! How can they say that Fatah members were on the roofs, AT THE SAME TIME, that Hamas members were on the roofs? Come On! No way would this have been allowed to happen. Review Their Stories-- They aren't telling the truth.

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    Celebrating Arafat's demise
    • Jonathan
    • 13.11.07
    • 14:00

    how appropriate for the PALs to kill eachother celebrating Arafats death! May they all relaize peace in this world, peace as in REST IN PEACE!

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    Clickfool *Is* The Mossad
    • Ovadiah ben Avraham
    • 13.11.07
    • 13:43

    Clickfool's agent provocateur job is to keep the flame of antisemitism burning brightly in full public view, so that all Jewish sympathizers that read Haaretz will be highly motivated to throw their full support behind Israel. It's a Mossad operation to co-opt the Left-wing newspaper of defeatism and ironically use it to bolster support. Keep it up FOOL.

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    YOU OWE IT TO YOUR CHILDREN
    • Don Corleone
    • 13.11.07
    • 13:35

    It's absolutely pointless, futile and exasperating to post anything here condemning Israel's "wait-&-watch" policy of appeasement from a do-nothing leadership - you created Gazastan when you agreed to pullout... now you are about to create a another Hamastan in the West Bank. Can't you get it through your thick 2000 year old head that you don't live for the US or the world. You live for your children who are about to be encircled by an evil that's grows stronger by the day. Cut off the head of this demon... BOMB IRAN!!!

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    #3 Eyewitness reports state that fatah memebers threw stones and
    • S
    • 13.11.07
    • 13:30

    attacked Hamas policemen,instigating a riot". Most probably. Which must be answered by killing the instigators, of course. Yes Lakshmi, agreed; but only on your turf...particularly where you reside so you can contribute. Which side do you prefer among your people? The killers or the killed?

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    #Clickfool new Hollywood script writer
    • H
    • 13.11.07
    • 13:29

    There is a good NHS service in Sussex and they take good care of the unemployed and unhinged. If this was Mossad then they surely must be the bravest of the brave since the consequenses for them would be unbelievable torture and violent death.However, with that said I can entertain this notion due to the fact that I crossed paths with a very large brown dog which turned out to be a Mossad agent in disguise, reporting on Islamic activity in London. These damned clever Jews get everywhere.

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    lakshmi # 3
    • ChanahS
    • 13.11.07
    • 13:17

    So you actually admit that stone throwing is a justification for those being stoned to defend themselves by shooting back. Glad we have now cleared that up.

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    lakshmi's beloved terrorist brigade continues its Clean & Green
    • CK Tan
    • 13.11.07
    • 12:51

    campaign. To quote her - They (hamas) can clean up the street gangs and thugs,secretly financed by israel,and defeat the quislings openly financed and supplied with weapons by israel. Looks like her fave street cleaners are tired of their pious masks and are now imitating EXACTLY what her "deplorable quislings" have done. I guess repression and supression is part of the Clean & Green membership privileges. Time to organise another tour for foreign journalists after the latest clean up.

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    clickfool - as always, caught LYING. AGAIN
    • CK Tan
    • 13.11.07
    • 12:48

    Today, he says - As always, suspicions fall on the Mossad. Last month, he says - I never talk about "Mossad", CKTan. Blatant liar, unrelentless apologist for terrorism against Israel and a very failed fortune-teller-cum-debunked-conspiracist - do you blush as you write lies and unproven claims???

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    Eyewitness reports state that fatah memebers threw stones and
    • lakshmi
    • 13.11.07
    • 12:35

    attacked Hamas policemen,instigating a riot.A provocative & incendiary statement was read out from the quisling denouncing Hamas.All to be expected.abbas's last stand,at the behest of his masters in israel & washington.abbas had been given the green light by washington to hold the rally.Currently,the coward is begging israel to stay on in the West Bank to save his hide!

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    Clickfool
    • Michael
    • 13.11.07
    • 12:25

    Your screen name says it all. Tell me, did you come by your obtuseness naturally, or did you have to work hard to develop it?

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    As Always
    • Clickfool
    • 13.11.07
    • 12:11

    "Seven people were killed and 55 wounded in exchanges of fire between Hamas and Fatah." As always, these murders always seem to occur whenever, a peace delegation visits the region or a "peace conference" is on the horizon. As always the clashes are initiated by "masked" or "unknown" gunmen. As always, suspicions fall on the Mossad. After all, how can the stolen lands be returned to their rightful owners when "there is no one to talk to"? As always, the pretext for continued land grabs and illegal settlement expansion continues.