Hamas: Abbas has no right to give up one inch of Palestine

All this talks are just a mascarade.. you all dont know what you are talking about... Before G-D gave us the land, he said we are to be a peacefull people, an example for everyone. I dont recognize so much a pace and love attitude in all what I am reading... lets be realisitc a look for a better life, instead of dreaming...and hating other people...

If Hasams is included in the peace process, it will say that such a deal is a noble idea. Hamas wants to say to Israel if you need security, hamas the only one can offer it.

Hamas is not corrupt, which is why Israel/US could not deal with them. They built hospitals, schools and take care of their people with money, unlike Israel, where Olmert might be arrested on his return, and whose government and previous ones stole all the money slated for the elderly Holocaust survivors. Now Zionists are trying to shake down Germany yet again to replace it. Boy are you a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Zionists' back yard is swimming in feces, yet you point to a turd over in Pal land. Time for you to latch on yet again to the US taxpayer ninny. Wothout US support, Israel would be history. Get a grip.

Poor Lynn, she thinks they look 'pathetic'; I think they are handsome dudes, especially compared to Olmert. Old Lynn has her mop out already, but she doesn't have any pail with spic n span to put it in, but she always attepts to polish the occupation turd. As Dubya put it, let's try to make this work so the Arab street doesn't go with Hamas/Hezbollah, Inc. Of course, they all know that it will be BS, and everybody will still go with Hamas Inc. What will the US do, well, throw Israel off the bridge of course. Dubya is more concerned with Pakistan right now. How did AIPAC help Musharaff, well, they sent over Rosen to say he supports Musharaff---now wasn't that a bright play? Pakistanis love Zionists, yep, and I am sure that will give Musharaff, Inc a boost in the polls. Dubya just needs to say, 'enough BS' or you are on your own---no money, no taxpayer ninny, no sentimental support & no more clusters as we cannot afford you any longer. Then there will be peace. Regards.

Read a little deeper cupcake, the amount of oil we get from either cannot replace what is gotten from the ME or African Muslim countries. Canada will sell her oil to the highest bidder, which right now is China. Mexico will wait to see how you treat their citizens attempting to work in this country. You just think everybody loves Zionists/Americans. The Canadians don't have anybody in Iraq do they? Nope, and just hav a handful in Afghanistan and very upset a few got killed behind BS. If we could replace ME oil with Canada and Mexico's, Bush's cajones would not be in a wringer, now would they, bright light? You are always looking for a way for the Zionists to keep the land they stole, steal more and kill up the original inhabitants. Yup, that is Lynn over there in sunny New York. BTW, did the dollar pass you on its way south in NY, what with all the Europeans there flying for free and loading up at FAO Schwartz; saw it on TV. Even model Bunchen wants her pay in euros. Regards

There is no room for you or Avraham - Now is the time for the centrists - the World has had enough of your extremism - Ultra-lefties too but they are not the problem.

I read some of your comments, that showed to me, that you are genuine only in racism, hatred.you seem to be paid by someone else to stay day and night posting on Haaretz, or may be you are just a crazy house wife, who has nothing to do,except yelling at the neighbors. good for you lung, go get a life.

Greetings Lakshmi ! How right you are the Palestinian collaborators should be brought to justice as it's unthinkable for them to sell out any part of UN Resolutions 181 or UN Resolution 194 or the Fourth Geneva to Israeli. Let those land thieves and murderers go to hell. When I think of what they have done to the Palestinian people to further their desire for greater Israel my blood boils and our governments shouldn't be creating to their facts on the ground. This was all part of their evil plan to begin with . So let them eat cake. In solidarity, Dutch P.S. check out the following : http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_25526.shtml

PM Haniyeh is so right patience will win the day for the Palestinian people as my childrens' generation don't want to have anything to do with Israelis, baby boomers like myself feel no obligation to stand by a Jewish state and want military aid cut to Israel and indeed the rest of the world as it doesn't reflect democratic principles, older people I know like my parents who supported Israel have either gone to their grave (RIP) or are checking out or checking in to assisted living situations and the new wave of American immigrants don't know where Israel is- let alone care as their focus is on increasing their own wealth and technology and sending it to their perspective countries. So given time -the wells will run dry for Israel in more ways than one. Dutch

Good post but Mark Twain was American not British.

Very well said Yishai! They don't want peace, they want everything. Want, want, want and never give anything. That is why they are in the shape they are in. What happened to the Arab cultures that actually built and gave to the world. (that's right! Islam showed up) If they would spend as much time and energy working on the troubles of their people, they might just see a difference that is good. Look at all the trouble spots in the world today and you can see that it isn't the Jews that are the problem, it is Islam. Phillipines, Malaysia, Kosavo, Middle East, Africa etc. They claim a religion of peace but it's all a farce. Don't worry though, G-d gives us the victory in the end. And it says also in the prophecies that we still have Jerusalem!

Only Hamas has the right to give up anything... That is true and that is why they still and will exist...

What about Earial Lovely bloody history... And every Israeli leader"Including Goerge W.Bush" Should they be tried and pressecuted!!!

As a non-partisan, non-religious, objective perspective on the issue of Israel-Palestine, I have nothing but alarm and disgust for the comments I am reading here. Forget religion, for Zionism from its very origins has never been fully representative of Judaism but rather an extreme and wholly POLITICAL agenda which discriminates on the basis of race, not religion. Forget nationalism for any historical reading of the delineation of the States concerned will show that such delineations are nothing but arbitrary lines placed onto a map with a ruler and pen. Remember the sanctity of the human and the moral, political (non-religious) claim he has to freedom, self-determination and dignity. No one has the right to occupy or determine the existence of any other.

Notice the new well tailored suits, the Hermes ties, the armoured BMW·s. The cash box stuffed with US Dollars from smuggling, everything from apples to perfumes. What a business, no taxes,no SEC filings. TV Stations,Disneyworld to follow and a movie production studio. These are the leaders of Hamas.Of course they say"No to PEACE" not one inch of my future Movie Studio or Theme Park. "Its the same old gravy train"! , folks. They care only for theirselves."All the diplomats in the west cannot put humpty dumpty together again"!.

Peace be with Israel!! As a US citizen I am outraged that my government would make any deal with terrorist's. Don't stand for your land being divided in the name of a false peace. May God bless Israel!

to rid the world from the sccum that Hanya and the rest of the Hammas ledership represent? Como on , do not get soft.. do it already.. then we can start looking for Lakshimi et al...

your Ilah in your kkkoran said in sura 5:20-21- O my people! (the Jews) Enter the the holy land which your ilah has prescribe for you! Sura 20:39- Allah loves the Jews! NOT Arabs!!

can't believe you are so lost in believing anything good will come from them. They all look pretty pathetic to me.(The Pic) I honestly don't believe Hamas believes their own rhetoric. Their day, like so many like them, is over. Just the mopping up to do.

aT FIRST CLANCE AT PICTURE YOU WOULD THINK THEY ARE WEARING A TALLIS. mAYBE THEY ARE.

Jackie.The post from Burston thread 9 reasons. . . that I mentioned is 190(to Howdy Jeff,who keeps repeating the same stuff,though both myself & Johnboy have been trying our best to explain things to him!). BTW aren't we all quaking,the zionist brown shirts are out in full force it seems! Regards

Great post, Yishai. The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. I would go one step further. The lies of some who claim this "occupation" is present and the root of the problem due to stolen land, etc... overlook the truth of Yishai's post. The Arabs in '67 started a multi-front war to annihilate the Jewish State. By the grace of Hashem, they were defeated. There is no stolen land, only land lost by these losers. Sorry Pals, this is the consequence of losing a war YOU STARTED. Nothing was stolen. The Palestinians had many chances for a State prior to '67... AND WERE NOT INTERESTED.

even if it is what you say(I seriously doubt it,although if israel continues in its present path,it well may) there is Res.181.Here we are talking about legalities,the de jure right of both countries to exist.That is what UNResolution(the Partition Resolution of 1947) is all about.It demarcated the border between israel & Palestine.This is the only legally authorised border between israel & Palestine.If you go to the other thread Bradley Burston's 9 reasons why annapolis will succeed,I have a response to Howdy Jeff Northridge,which begins 'Let me try again to explain'.That lays out the step by step logic of 181. I can't offhand remember the number of the post.

This should be the reply of a proud Jewish government, but no such hope from the traitors Olmert/Livni/Barak and the Likud deserters.

Every time one hears the "one inch" mantram, be it by Hamas, by Israelis, by Syrians or by Hezballah, one can hear the voice of fear. Fear of having been screwed up in the past and of being screwed up in the present and future. The national ego stands up, and yet the inch has entered already the collective consciousness: No matter how much each side feels the victim, it has to give up its dream of avenging past grievances, present violence by the enemy, and future ifs. It has to end justifying and excusing, and even if there is no moral deuce, be more magnanimous than it thinks it should be vis a vis its vicious enemy. Like in sex, once one inch is part of the game, the rest comes by itself.

Chapters 9–14 are not widely thought to be by Zechariah himself who wrote during the exile but by later editors /scribes--much as Isaiah is also believed to be a pastiche, only the earlier parts are attributed to Isaiah. So rest easy.

Now they're wearing taleisim too?

Moron, US gets its oil from CANADA, MEXICO!!! Try reading.

Palestine." If Abbas does aggre on compromise, Abbas and his comarades will be trown of the roofs of buildings. Here is the root cause of the problem since 1948. Of course Abbas may loose his life , palestinians will not get a state and Israel will survive and flourish while Palestinians will be condemned to exile into infinity.

If Abbas can deliver the goods, Hamas will be shunned. If I were a betting man, I would bet that when Abbas returns home, his basket will be empty. He can not even negotiate the removal of the check points or the apartheid wall that is suffocating Palestinians lives, how can he be expected to deliver an end to the conflict. The failed conference will inflame the Palestinians even more. While I do not see a new intifada on the horizon, one can feel the winds of war.

THis confrence is going to be a waste of time. Hamas will do anything to distroy its success.

Say, who told you "sanctions will come soon", Fox News? The only one talking about sanctions are the US/Israel with the EU peeking out between their legs. AIEA says Iran is cooperating, so what do you want, more war? The US can sanction all it wants, China and the USSR see through the usual Zionist war drumming BS---even the American voters see the ruse. There has never been a people like the Zionists---they are ALWAYS looking to whack somebody with their paranoia. The only sanctions coming down will be the worldwide collapse of the financial system which is already teetering with a useless dollar, more so if the Muslims finally decide to interrupt our oil. One would have thought the last time Zionists threatened to financially cripple Germany would be a deterrent, but, some people like you are hard to learn. You shout "peace" out of one side of your mouth while always planning war with the usual deviousness. Keeping hoping and whining for war, why don't you.You might just get it.

Knock it off already. Neither you nor your Hamas heroes have half a leg to stand on.As someone told you on these forums several dys ago - you should hang your head in shame for all the drivel you write.

Hamas spokespersons apparently haven't gotten Jimmy Carter's talking points--they are not objecting to Israeli occupation, colonialism, or "apartheid"--they, for reasons that are not readily apparent--continue to object to any Israel on any inch of British Mandatory Palestine that is, it seems, "owned" by the Palestinian nation. A scientific sampling of stones, caves, gullies, and mountain tops on whether the territory under discussion actually considers itself owned by the Palestinian nation or owned by the Israeli people yielded the following results: A. Owned by Palestine 0% B . Owned by Israel 0% C. No Comment 100%

u are the real trator becouse of u and people who dont give peace a chance there well be a war and if u look in the past evrey time you and your thugs try to take it we take more have you not learned yet let love rule. so what we live side by side maybe we can learn from each other rather then kill each other open urt heart or you will pay with constent hate and pain and no country

Only Hamas would reject a deal that hasn't even been discussed yet. Yes, even if they are not invited... Is there really any reason they should attend? What do they have to prove that they have the slightest bit of optimism or give in any type of PEACE deal? PLEASE! someone give some proof of evidence that they will actually sit down and negotiate a deal that isn't "whats mine is mine and yours is negotable." Just give me one little spec of a peaceful move towards ANYTHING that HAMAS has done. anyone...

Hanaya of Hamas says that no-one has the right to give up one inch of 'The Land of Palestine' and here we are thinking the Palestinians are wanting one. Could it be the piece of land that was once a pretty littl hamlet town built by Jewish settlers then razed to the ground when Israel retreated from there giving the land to the Arabs for their 23rd Arab State ? But in Ancient History, the Jewish Homeland was in Palestine wherein Jesus Our Lord was born, in Bethlehem, preached in Nazareth and walked along the Galilee. Its all getting very confusing..... HAMAS PLEASE NOTE; Winston Churchill's Speech to the Arabs in 1921: "....THE JEWS WHO ARE SCATTERED ALL OVER THE WORLD SHOULD HAVE A NATIONAL CENTRE AND NATIONAL HOME AND WHERE ELSE BUT IN THE LAND OF PALESTINE WITH WHICH FOR MORE THAN 3000 YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN INTIMATELY AND PROFOUNDLY ASSOCIATED......" And so it looks as though it has changed hands.

Your damn right that Hamas has no right to give up one inch of Jewish Land. Something that was never theirs cannot be given up. The only thing Arabs have to do is surrender to Jewish truth both Physical and Spiritual and acknowledge they have been disgraced the legacy of Avraham, and their false G-d Mohammed.

You notice they talk about the land west of the Jordan. There is NO time in history outside of approximately 22 to 47 that the land was known as that. They dont talk about reclaiming the historical part of Palestine East of the Jordan because its ruled by Arabs. Its because they are RACISTS. History doesnt matter to them. Facts dont matter to them. Just hate.

First, Yishai, I would like to say that I really like what you wrote because it is the truth. Even Arafat who claimed he was born in Jerusalem, was in fact born in Cairo. In the early 20th, the land of Israel was described as "Empty and Desolate" according to British author Mike Twain. There were not such cities as Khan Yunis, etc... and certainly not 2 or 3 millions terrorists. Anyway, Lakshmi, go to the East Bank, cash a check, go to hell if you want or Paradise to meet your 69 virgins or grapes, but leave my people alone.

OLMERT HAS NO RIGHT TO GIVE UP ONE INCH OF ISRAEL THEN. I HEARD TALKS OF GIVING BACK GOLAN. NO WAY!! THIS IS OUR LAND, AND THE PALESTINIANS WONT REST TILL THEY GET EVERYTHING THEY WANT. WICH IS FOR ISRAEL TO BE WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH. DONT GIVE IN TO THEM PERIOD!! DROP AN A BOMB ON THEIR ASS'S

is more misery and death. It has been proven over and over and over. And this time will be no different. Hamas cannot peacefully coexist with Israel, and until the Palis make peace with Israel, there simply cannot and will not be a Palestine. Where is Jordan in all of this? Most Palis are Jordanian. Ahh, they don't want to have anything to do with the Palis. Way to stick by your brethren. By the way, that's a nice Talis you're wearing, Haniyeh.

is heard courtesy of Haniyeh. He only speaks according to the Quranic positions regarding Israel, Zion, Jerusalem--and Jews. All you have to do is read the Hamas Charter. Then read the PA charter. Then look at the list of Annapolis attendees--all Islam in a face off versus Israel! Per Iranian news, the Saudis will NEVER recognize a Jewish state--Israel--so the whole conference is a farcial embrace of lunacy. Let's hope Livni remembers Esther and does not fall into a pit!

It is bereft of ideas or solutions other than those miltary solutions favoured by a well and truly miltiarised society. Like Sharon before him Olmert must think that Jewish youth will continually migrate to Israel and that Israelis will continually be willing to sacrifice their children, thus providing Israel with future generations of cannon fodder to fight the wars which will need to be fought. Apparently it is all because of the dreaded Hamas Charter. The merest mention of which reduces zionists to apoplexy. That and the unwillingness of Hamas to give up any pretense of being able to fight for their independance BEFORE Israel gives them the time of day. Israel gets encouragement for their stance from Halliburton,..erm I mean Cheney and Co.The dogs of war can't wait for the next installment.

Hamas is not arguiong for a UN aresolution; they regard all of Israel as Arab land and they want to drive out, pr better still kill, all the Jews living there.

And there never will be- EVER. They would have had a state in 1937 with the Peel Plan, but they violently rejected it. They would have had a state in 1948 with UN 181, but they violently rejected it (and claimed that the UN had no such mandate!). They could have had a state in Judea, Samaria, and Gaza from 1948-1967 without any Jews- because the Arabs had ethnically cleansed every last one; but they violently rejected it. That's exactly when they established Fatah (1959) and thre PLO (1964). They could have had a state after 1967, but instead, the entire Arab world issued the Khartoum Resolutions: A. No peace with Israel B. No recognition of Israel C. No negotiations with Israel They would have had a state in 2000 with the Oslo Accords, but they violently rejected it- as always. No more. They won't have a state here, and if they don't stop their violence, they won't even exist here anymore, but will go to their own land; Jordan. And you can take that to the bank- the EAST Bank.

territory allocated by UN Resolution 181(the Partition Plan) must be terminated ! Abed rabbo,abbas,fayyad, all collaborators in this infamy!Should be brought to trial at the earliest opportunity.

And may they continue to give up their lives in ever increasing numbers, until they recognize Israel's right to exist.

Israeli right wingers are also anti-Annapolis. Maybe they should join the counter conference in Gaza.

Zechariah 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

sanctions will come soon.

Hamas gift to the palestinians esp those in gaza will be another 60 years of living in the cesspool with no hope for the future. A leadership of dreck

bitterly and terribly.

In order for peace to be attained both sides will have to make painful compromises. Hamas of course has no intention of doing so. They want Israel wiped off the map just like Ahmedinejad and nothing else will do. Well well, the radicals will never get what they want. Instead, they'll be relegated to the ashbins of history.

The Islamist-Jihadists have NO right to usurp one inch of Israel and its biblical and historic territories of Judea and Samaria. The wolves should return to their historic homeland in Southwestern Arabia where they originated in the 7th century.

and yet Abbas is a holocaust denier (received his PHD with a disertation on the subject) and he also helped plan and fund the PLO attack during the Olympics in Munich (The Munich Masacre). Some Moderate Arab! Search Wikipedia.com for more on Mahmoud Abbas.

Israel knows what they must do in order to have a lasting peace. The question is...Are they willing to do it? Having occupied Palestinian lands for over 40 years, they actually believe its theirs to keep.

hani try the state of jordan for arab palestine ! but are you welcome there ?

Haniyeh has a point. Only a referendum in both Westbank and Gaza can give whatever might be the outcome from Annapolis legitimacy.

I agree with Matilda. As a person of heart, I will never be able to give anything given to me by my parents, or something else they cherish. The sentimental value is so strong. My question now is: "How can a PM give away a land that was given to us by G-d? The land belong first to Hashem, and then to the people of Israel, to the Jewish Nation. It is time to wake-up, and replace this idiotic leftist government. Lieberman or Netanyahu will do a better job !!!!

If a Jew was to say that Olmert "has no right to give up one inch of Israel", the leftists would be screaming for the arrest of the patriot and would state that such a view would only lead to war. Yet when an arab says it, they are full of agreement and understanding.

from the Palestinians! Iranian proxies like Hamas and Hizbolla are great distractions from stopping the Iranians from developing, distributing and/or using nukes.

Bibi for Prime Minister!

Which is like scr..ing for virginity.

any other country that knew where militants were going to meet would of dropped a 1 tonner and sent all of them to allah!!! what is wrong with israel???lets hope that once this meeting is over in america, israel will once again start defending its borders and citizens from militants in gaza and west bank....olmert failed with gaza and before sorting out the mess he will open another can of worms!!!