Government spokeswoman: Illegal West Bank outposts will be removed

Nope, I haven't lost the argument, you have. You posted your "response" twice, guess you wanted to convince yourself. How can any decent person (I guess that excludes you) justify a modern form of slavery. It's called Universal Sufferage, valid for all countries and peoples. It's getting cold in my part of the U.S. You're continued hot air is of little use, your located too far away. I know it must hurt to have lost an argument, you have my sympathy. Wash you own car and do your own yard work, it'll do you good. Might just counteract some of your venom. This thread is now terminated....

I'm not gonna dignify you reponse with an answer , cause it seems that you always will take it else where when you lose the argument, first you were talking about controling the borders so you were against mexicans now you're talking about america steeling california, and all of the sudden you're an advocate for mexican people, make up your small mind first then come and argue with me. this is about israel and the illegal read very well illegal settlments stick with the subject, and if you don't have anything intelligent to say about "the subject" then shudup, because the more you speak the more transparent you become, your ignorance will become more visible. "wink"

I'm not gonna dignify you reponse with an answer , cause it seems that you always will take it else where when you lose the argument, first you were talking about controling the borders so you were against mexicans now you're talking about america steeling california, and all of the sudden you're an advocate for mexican people, make up your small mind first then come and argue with me. this is about israel and the illegal read very well illegal settlments stick with the subject, and if you don't have anything intelligent to say about "the subject" then shudup, because the more you speak the more transparent you become, your ignorance will become more visible. "wink"

Stealing land? You must mean what the U.S. took from Mexico. Don't talk about ignorance. You have more than your share if you don't realize how the U.S. and it's large corporations brutalized the Mexicans of yesteryear and of today's generation. Those corporations are actually working in your behalf. If you truly feel that they're taking advantage, then YOU should boycott their products and services and pay the additional costs getting them elsewhere. Before the U.S., it's citizens and employers had the Mexicans as virtual slave laborers, receiving far less than decent wages, the jobs were held by "LEGAL" residents and citizens. You can't condone "ILLEGAL" labor just because it's cheap and convenient to have somebody who has no other choice perform work that you're too lazy, cheap, or unwilling to do for yourself. Before you call your betters names, look in your mirror, I'm certain it's a soorry sight.

Your reply to me displays most ignorance , first of all it has no relevant what so ever with my point, I was talking about stealing peoples land and you went to the moon, but I will reply to your comment just to show more ignorance on your part, we the people are not whining about mexicans FYI, it's GW and company that are, without mexicans here for your information, we won't have any workers for the low income jobs, we won't have no farmers, no one moeing the lawns, no maids, no car wash workers, etc etc and all that because they are illegal, give them the legal status and they become bigger then their jobs, you get it? I love mexicans (specially the illegal ones) and don't mind them at all, so does 90% of californians, get your facts straight. now go back and read my other post and duel on it, it's a different subject :)

You Californians are whining about the Mexican Illegals populating your state and eating away at your resources. Control your own borders and then advise Israel how to control hers. Set an example!

From the majority of responses here it sounds like you people just take it foregranted that the west bank is Israeli, one way on another, you are whining in the deffense of illegal occupiers of the west bank, can you people hear yourself, this is just amazing.

From the majority of responses here it sounds like you people just take it foregranted that the west bank is Israeli, one way on another, you are whining in the deffense of illegal occupiers of the west bank, can you people hear yourself, this is just amazing.

The BUSH "Roadplan" is a joke. Bush can't control the Mexican illegals traffic across the border. Yet, he wants to control Israel's security.

Olmert & his cronies NEVER LEARN. The last disengagement in Gaza resulted in an increased rain of Kassam's being fired at Israeli targets. The scheduled removal of the outposts will result in increased efforts by Hamas & Fatah to eradicate the Jewish presence. As the old saying goes: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Is seems that the FOOLS are in charge.

Well said.

To all those who want the settlements to remain, and you are the majoriy of the respondents. Do you understand that there is no international body that will accept their existence? Isreal is already considered by most nations an international outlaw. Do you want to continue without international support? The Americans will also abandon you, because they are comiitted to the road map. One cannot be right in his eyes only. Survival alone cannot be the goal of a nation; it needs to be survival with respect and dignity. And don't tell me that the whole world is anti-semitic and they will be against Israel anyhow. You will gain support and strength when you act legally. I am not advocating by the way removal of "legal" settlements without an agreement with Abbas. Unilatteral withdrawals will end up like Gaza and (the first withdrawal from) Lebanon. Let Israel be a bastion of justice, not only of strength.

What kind of majority are we talking here for dimwittedkadima? was it 29% or so? If that place you call Israel IS a democracy that would nerver stand as majority...so kick the kadima gang to live with abbas the 'oh so moderate killer'...they are the same kind for sure with the same sort of majority...

Who does the government think it's kidding? illegal settlements will be removed - no they won't - you're only saying that because Secretary of State Rice is here. If the government were serious about the rule of law, they would have removed the illegal settlements months ago. There's nothing stopping the government from acting - apart from a strong desire not to. So stop lying to yourselves and to the public - you, the government have no intention of moving even one illegal settlement - so at least quit lying about it.

"Kadima gang": You must not forget that Israel is a democracy, this "gang" was elected, by the majority of Jews in Israel, I presume? I am talking as a bystander of course, I still like Israel is a democracy or would you prefer a theocracy, a state more or less like Iran run by the religious nationalist Zionist council of Israel, Judea and Samaria?

Thanks for trying to answer my question, yesterday. My computer crashed just after posting the question. While I think the government's plan to dismantle outposts is sorely needed and overdue, I don't think that in and of itself, it is a panacea. The Palestinians need some way to form a strong central government, capable of enforcing law and actually protecting its people.

All outposts/settlements are 'illegal' in the first place. Some are 'unauthorized' and to be removed (by authorizing them), I guess. :-) JJ

C'mon. Like anyone believes this nonsense? It's just fodder to keep the milliards of foreign journalists based in Israel nice and busy. Notice how she doesn't answer the question of when exactly this will happen. "After the holidays" - which holidays? Succot or Pesach? The international community should just accept the fact that those outposts ain't gonna go anytime soon. Nor are the settlements. And especially not the settlement blocs.

"In June and July of 2005," Ron-Tal said, "the army was sufficiently ready to defeat Hizbullah - but the army dedicated most of its time to training for the Disengagement, at the expense of training [for war]. The army was not at a level that it could not fight, but during the first few days of warfare they had to remove rust...

People didn't seem to take it seriously when he said something to the effect that "Israel is too tired to fight any more". Thus, we have the disaster of the recent Lebanon war. Since the Olmert/Peretz gang's gov't has to justify itself, they think it will be easier to take the army and police and attack peaceful citizens redeeming Jewish land in the heartland of the Biblical Jewish homeland where Jews have lived CONTINUOUSLY for 4000 years (far longer than the Arabs) in Judea/Samaria. These post-Zionists like Olmert (whose sons fled Israel and refuse to fight) have no Jewish identity, so he thinks he can attack other Jews in order to justify his clinging to power. IT WONT WORK. The Jewish people will not let this crime be carried out!

Again the IDF will be used against Jews, destroying their homes, uprooting their families, removing Israelis from land that is critical to our defense. When is the IDF going to put a stop to this nonsense and return to its original purpose--defending Jews and Israel?

Israeli government to remove outposts per "the Road-map for peace"? Only those dead from the neck up fail to recognize that the Road-map is dead also. After the Gaza withdrawal DISASTER and the Lebanon FIASCO just what Israel needs is to attack Jewish patriots..It is so sad to see a country bent on it's own destruction.