Gov't sources confirm progress on Shalit deal
PA Information Minister Barghouti says IDF soldier's captors have passed list of demands to Israel.
By News Agencies, Amos Harel, Yoav Stern and Jack Khoury Haaretz ServiceGovernment sources on Saturday confirmed reports that progress has recently been made in negotiations over the release of Israel Defense Forces soldier, Corporal Gilad Shalit, who was captured by Palestinian militants last June.
They added, however, that an agreement securing Shalit's release was still far from being reached.
"One must be careful not to build up unsubstantiated expectations over Palestinian reports," an Israeli official said under condition of anonymity.
Earlier on Saturday, a Palestinian Cabinet minister said Egyptian mediators working for the release of Shalit had provided the Israeli government with a list of the captors' demands, opening the way for the soldier's speedy release.
Palestinian Information Minister Mustafa Barghouti said the Egyptians had told the Palestinian authorities they had sent the Israelis a list of Palestinian prisoners they wanted freed in exchange for Cpl. Gilad Shalit, snatched in a raid from Gaza into Israel last June. He said he did not how many prisoners were on the list and did not give further details.
On Friday, Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas said in a television interview that Shalit will be released soon.
"We are undertaking efforts to free Shalit and these efforts will soon come to fruition," Abbas told France 24 television of Corporal Gilad Shalit, who was seized last June in a cross-border raid from Gaza into southern Israel. "We are optimistic."
"He will be freed soon," Abbas said in comments due to be broadcast Friday evening.
However, he gave no specifics and previous comments by him about Shalit have not resulted in the soldier's release.
Abbas, speaking from the Gaza Strip, also said he hoped Israel would release hundreds of Palestinians held in Israeli prisons. But he said Shalit's release should not be tied to that of the Palestinian prisoners.
"One thing does not depend on the other," Abbas said. "I am convinced Shalit must be freed."
Nonetheless, Channel 2 reported Friday evening that Hamas has given Israel a list of prisoners it is demanding be released in exchange for Shalit.
Meanwhile, the Palestinian militants holding captured Shalit recently brought him a pair of eyeglasses, the Nazareth-based newspaper A-Sanara reported on Friday.
Palestinian sources quoted in the report said that the eyeglasses were handed over by Shalit's father, Noam, through an Egyptian delegation mediating a prisoner swap deal between Palestinians and Israelis.
An attempt was made in the past to give glasses to the soldier, but Shalit's captors had refused to allow the transfer.
Abu Mujhad, spokesman of one of the three militant groups that captured Shalit, refused to comment on the report. Noam Shalit said the most important thing at this point was to receive some sign of life from his son.
Hezbollah official denies saying captured soldiers being treated humanely
A Hezbollah offical denied Friday that he told A-Sanara that the treatment being given to captured IDF soldiers Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev was "humane," hinting at the possibility that they may still be alive, Israel Radio reported.
The official, Mohammed Kamati, was quoted as saying that "an enemy soldier that becomes a hostage is entitled to humane treatment, and he lives in a regular and humane way."
A-Sanara has interpreted the comment as a first sign of life from the soldiers, who were seized by Hezbollah guerillas in July, sparking the Second Lebanon War.
The paper quoted Kamati as saying that negotiations over the soldiers' release was entirely in the hands of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, adding that his own job was just to relate the treatment of the prisoners.
Nasrallah has said in the past that announcements regarding the prisoners that do not come directly from him hold no weight.
He also took pride over Hezbollah's treatment of the remains of three IDF soldiers captured in 2000, saying they were immediately stored and preserved until they were returned to Israel.
The defense establishment Thursday night attempted to dissect Kamati's announcement, but at this stage it is not yet clear whether it was a slip of the tongue delivered without Nasrallah's consent or an attempt at manipulating the Israeli public.
Kamati is not considered to have great standing in Hezbollah's military wing and the likelihood of his having knowledge of the soldiers' fate is slim.
An IDF medical report based on examinations of the site of the capture indicate that both Regev and Goldwasser were seriously wounded at the time of the Hezbollah ambush.
The negotiations over their release have been deadlocked for some time and as of yet, there has not been any progress.
Negotiations experts told Haaretz Thursday night that over the coming days Israel hopes to consolidate a clear evaluation of Kamati's remarks - particularly with regard to the authority of the statements.
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Your so full of hate. I wonder, do you hate your fellow Indonesians who killed 200,000 Christian East Timoran's? Palestinian's that house terrorist and explosives in their houses deserve to have the homes destroyed. Apartheid walls, not really, defensive walls to keep homicidal maniacs out. I too hate, I hate people that board busses, enter restaurants and shopping centers with explosives strapped on and blow themselves up. I hate Muslims that use Mosques as vantage points for sniping and firing rockets, as they did in Bethlehem a few years ago. Any so-called "Holy Place" that's used for military purposes isn't holy anymore. It's become military by being used for military use. Palestinian kids being killed? Stop they're elders from sending them out to do duty that their cowardly elders shouldn't be doing in the first place. You sound like an Arab, not an Indonesian.
I'm simply stating established facts. Arabs are killing their own kids by cowardly using them as bomb carriers & rock and molotov bottle launchers. Your kids are victims of your terroristic acts. Read a little, learn a lot at. http://www.teachkidspeace.org/doc1018.php
you are a complete and utter ignorant imbacile. There are two mosques in Tel Aviv alone. Tel Aviv is in Israel. They sit as testimony to the fact that Jews don't blow up mosques only because they are Muslim places of worship. What would you know, your country won't even permit Jews.
hey man, AK no idea, I have ready your postings and it is evident you are a foreing commentator nourished on the eternal memory and narrative of Palestine. Guess what? It is no longer. You need to place yourself firmly within the reality that the rest of us are dealing with. Hope this does not ruin your day.
what I didnt add in my last posting was that my little Palestinian talk in Egypt was 10 yers ago when I was 18 and believed what the media sold me. What has not changed is how Arabs feel about the Palestinians. What has changed is I now know the truth.
you speak of Jewish hatred. A friend of mine once said, if the Palestinians love their children more than they hate the Jews there may be a chance. Don't you think this is true?
Don't you know Arabs don't care about you. I was sitting in a tea house in Egypt and I had a long discussion with the locals about the Palestinians. I did the listening. They showed no sympathy for the Palestinians and said. ?They don?t want a settlement. Then they would get no more money. No one would be willing to give as much money if peace came. They had chances before to make peace, but they didn?t. Do you know how many Palestinian millionaires are in Cairo?? I argued that whatever the PLO and expatriate Palestinians had or had not done, the workaday people living in the occupied territories were living under brutal oppression by the Israelis. All my Egyptian friend wanted to talk about, though, was his own declining standard of living. Other people I talked with also complained much more about the daily struggles to get by than any preoccupation with the Gulf War or the Arab-Israeli conflict. One shopkeeper said he thought the recent Arab-Israeli wars were products of governments, not people. ?We don?t want to fight the Israelis. We welcome anyone.? No one I talked with had any pointed vindictiveness toward Israel.
I see your point but should this not tell you about their mentality? Understand that and you will understand sadly the impossibilities of trying to negotiate. Did you see the new video released by the PA for the martyrs of Islam? If you did you would see exactly what we are up against. So how would you negotiate with them Andy McNab!?
The TALMUDIC reference was the give away AK!
& more intelligent! Firstly *then I, a Jew, is (sic) also anti-Semite* Sorry, but my Jewish cat tells me that should be either: *then I, a Jew, AM also AN anti-Semite* or possibly *then I a Jew, AM also AntiSemitic* You see it's "I AM" not "I IS" Oh forget it you'll never understand.......LIAR!!!
Your Naqba (Tragedy) was started when your people didn't accept the UN Partition Plan. On the 29th November 1947 you were offered a State as were the JEWS. We accepted you didn't. The rest is history. We have a successful State you still live in camps. Who made the wrong decision? ....THINK ABOUT IT!!
*Nuff Said*
WHEN YOU ARE A BACKSEAT DRIVER THE BEST METHOD FOR COMFORT IS TO SHUT THE F UP !! CLEARLY YOU ARE NOT THE ONE TO COMMENT FOR THE SAFETY OF YOUR BRETHREN ON THE FRONT LINE
AK A TIRADE AGAINST ISRAEL IS JUST ANTI SEMITISM . IF YOU HAVE COMPLAINT GIVE NAMES ADDRESSES PLACES THOSE PERSECUTED AND HOW ! OTHERWISE YOU ARE CORRECT ITS JUST THE USUAL ANTI SEMITIC DRIVEL
You're right about Zionist fanatics and barbarism. I, a Muslim, would not generalise to call them Zionist liars; however, most are ignorant. They don't even know what a 'semite' is, and that Arabs are also semites.
Most enlightened people know that Assad is worse than his vile father...and you expect rational people to believe what he says? Well of course you think Israel is the worst nation on Gods Great Earth...and I suppose you would like it if the country committed national suicide. Won't happen...so forget about it. You know you Swedes have a real reputation for being wimpy...although you did like Adolph. Maybe it is to cold where you are...you know brain freeze etc.
AK is correct. If criticizing Israeli barbarianism is anti-Semitism, then I, a Jew, is also anti-Semite. In Brief, the world should not be intimidated by these Zionist liars who use "anti-semitism" to silence criticisms of fascism in Israel. chag sameach to all
Israel murders children at will, demolishes poor people's homes to force them to emigrate, destroys churches and mosques and prevent millions of Christians and Muslims from practicing their relgion. Israel also forces millions to live in ghettos, with apartheid walls shutting Palestinian population centers completely. This is why I hate Israel and hate those who support this evil state.
Your words are true, honest and articulate. You are telling the truth about Israel..and its evil and racist policies. We Americans need to open our eyes and put an end to Jewish-Zionist domination of our government.
with their victims. The settlers are thieves and fanatical Talmudic bullies. They can't be equated with Palestinian school children, the victims of Jewish terror. Besides, you can't be a settler and innocent at teh same time. Innocent and settler should never ever be used in the same sentence.
We hate Jews because Jews are our persecutors, tormentors, occupiers and thieves of our lands. Jews stole our country, destroyed our towns, demolished our homes and expelled us to the four corners of the world. We hate them because they committed countless crimes against our existence. The Jews, whether you like it or not, are our SS....and the ongoing Nakba is our holocaust. This is why we will create Nakba memorials all over the world to make every Muslim aware of you the Jews did to our people. You are evil because of what you have been doing..If our hatred of evil and evil doers is anti-Semitism, then I am proud to be the first anti-Semite in the world. As such anti-Semitism is a moral obligation of the highest order.
The UN says you are the child killers, the World Court of Justice says you are occupier and murderer and land thieves, numerous Jewish and non-Jewish intellectuals say so as well..and reality cries to the seventh heaven that you are criminal...criminal to the hilt...so stop committing adultery with language...because you lies flies in the face of logic and reality. The world is simply fed up with your whining and lies.
are murderers, liars and land thieves. You don't belong here. You belong to Eastern Europe and one day you will have to return there by hook or by crook.
"Congrats to the Israeli press for at least asking." - Mark of Lewiston Matt Maupin is an embarrassing subject to the Bush junta. We recently discovered that our government has been substantially understating the number of US casualties in Iraq. Ignoring the MIA is just part of a pattern. As for the US press, it has a simply policy when dealing with subjects which might counter corporate policy. "Don't ask, don't tell." Israel still has a free - and more important, involved - press and public.
PRC = Popular Resistance Committees. Lynn, let me take this opportunity to with you a happy Easter and a short road to Salvation. We the Jews suspect, based on long history, that the Messiah will be coming so soon, but we will be delighted to be proven wrong. P.S. A Jewish joke: A poor family lived in the shtetl (small Jewish town) and was supported from public funds. But the town realized it was better for their human dignity if they could be fixed up with a job and view the payment as salary. The solution: They were given the job to stand on top of the hill outside the town, watch out to see if the Messiah is coming, and then quickly let the town's people know so that they can be ready to recieve Him properly. They explained to the family: The job is not paying much, but they will have job security forever..
THank you
I could not have said it better
Palestinian Republican Committee?
In case you haven't noticed the Germans today are not the Nazis of 60 years ago. There are still many Jews who don't buy German products, but that s an individual choice. You on the other hand are full of hatred for Jews and Israel, using an Israeli website to spew your lies and demonization of an entire people with typically anti-Semitic rubbish. The Jews picked themselves up quicker than lightening while you still wallow in your misery, mostly caused by your own actions, misjudgments, crimes, intolerance and pure hatred.
Contemporary Germany has made attempts to atone and has paid substantial reparations. Now when you mention "child killers, fanatical racists, land thieves and liars, surely your talking about the Arabs that have attempted to kill Jews since 1920 at Tel Hai, Pogroms in Hebron 1929 & 1936, attacking Israel on it's Independence day, attempting to kill as many jews as possible and to steal Israel in the process. You must also consider the wars forced on Israel in 1956, 1967 & last but not least the Yom Kippur War. Of course the homicide bombings of innocent Jewish civilians, men, women and children must be taken into consideration. Chag Sameach to you too!
Perhaps somebody can explain to me how in a narrow waterway with two battle ready aircraft carriers; fighters, helicopters, PT's, Cruisers, destroyers, etc. How did the Iranians get from the ship to the shore without some interdiction. It seems to me that one little peep on the radio would have brought down more heat than a little republican guard patrol would have wanted. How does this get by with someone completely botching it. I have been convinced that the Iranians were wrong (or lying) about the gps data, but the only explanation I can think of is that they didn't want to talk about their location at the time. THis is disturbing me. Peace. Steve
Some blame Hezbollah for the ambush, some blame Israel for its reaction. I also tend to do so, blah, blah... Instead, it should have been our concern, not to let it come to this at all. Where does Hezbollah's interest in killing and kidnapping come from? The West, Europe and America, must have been on their usual wellness program, pursuing economy and military aims in the middle east and all of a sudden, a war happens, which wasn't calculated and which of course nobody of us, who know to arrange our lives so beautifully, wanted. Absolute Sweden mentioned our lifestyle and I answered: "What lifestyle do you think I have?!" But I also think it is something of it: The West is materialist. People don't mean security for us but competition, so we exploit the whole world in order to protect us from ourselves. Every day I say to myself: Why am I forced to live next to these terrible people, who just think of kidding each other to keep their money together? If only I had a CAR, I could escape
Back in 1947 the families of two British soldiers prayed for their safe return. All they got was two coffins after the Irgun hanged them and booby trapped their bodies. S.
Didn't BASHAR al-Assad promise to help in the Shalit deal a few days ago when Pelosi was in Damascus? looks like Syria IS trying to promote peace while Israel is NOT. ACCEPT THE SYRIAN PEACE OFFER WITHOUT PRECONDITIONS! Because YOU are the biggest TERRORISTS! (Palestine etc.)
Mercedes, or Volkswagen, or IBM, or any of the German products. You know the Nazis produced alot of scientists, and their inventions are used and consumed by all Israeli hospitals..and other institutions.. Now you are using German products...weapons..submarines...!!! you know they killed six million Jews!!! My dear Tobya..I have no problem with honest, humane, conscientious Jews. Those are my brothers and friends. My problem is with the child killers, the fanatical racists, the land thieves and the liars. I hope you have got the point. Chag Sameach to you.
I'm going to call my Senator on Monday, no a week or so from Monday. Spring break, I forgot. Well, I will at least start an Email campaign. No one should be left hanging in the wind.
If the crtap in the Sudan and Darfur, Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan, Chechneya, Indonesia, etc; isn't blood sucking and damned barbaric, I really don't know what is. That includes the ugly hyena, Haniyeh.
When do you think the PA will arrest the men who shot the 2 year old and the four year old last week? When do you think those godless men will ever stand trial for their crimes against innocent children? Those Palestinian heroes you think so highly of. When? Haniyeh calls their deaths "unfortunate". "UNfortunately no one will ever pay for those deaths. Arab against Arab, more death and destruction then any other group of people can claim. Your sordid history speaks for itself.
As time goes by we forget about the "details". They didn't just "kidnap" two guys, but they killed some more soldiers in that ambush. After the war Aluf Benn published a catalogue of twenty questions regarding one that was: "Did the government think of talking about a prisoner exchange, or did they think they would get the two soldiers free by bombing alone?" I wrote to him an e-Mail asking if he had proposed a prisoner swap at the beginnig of the war and I added that I wouldn't have dared to propose a prisoner swap after such action. He even gave me an answer, admitting that he didn't propose a prisoner swap on July 12, but repeating that he wanted to know if the government thought they would get their soldiers back by bombing alone. It was a terrorist act with several dead. A quick and decisive intervention of third parties, who have certain ties with both Hezbollah and Israel, could have been an alternative, this didn't happen. So, Israel was alone. What should they have done?
Then you are a gracious person.
So, being the new kids, so to speak, you think you can tell everyone else what to do and how to think? Show some respect for those who came before you drug yourselves out of the barbaric ages and, in some instances, are still doing so.
I thought Blair looked incredibly weak in the way he responded to Iran. Olmert looks even weaker. UK got all their sailors back alive within 2 weeks without paying ransom - Israel has been waiting 9 months after 1 soldier was kidnapped and 2 soldiers were killed, and the price demanded for his release is unacceptable. Why didn't Condi demand he be immediately and unconditionally released before talks? At the minimum, Olmert should have inforced the entire lock down of Gaza - nothing and no one in or out - until Shalit was released. Still not a bad idea.
Why is the world silent over the palestinian authority demanding ransom (release of 1,400 criminal terrorists) in exchange for the release of a kidnapped Israeli soldier? That we still have not received any tangible proof to confirm he is still alive is further evidence of their evil intent? Where is the world outrage and condemnation? Even Iran didn't demand ransom for releasing the British sailors. I'll tell you why the world is silent - anti-semitism. If this were a non-Jewish Israeli kidnap victim, do you think the EU, UN would be silent? And if Israel releases a single terrorist, then they will be responsible for all the future deaths by the released terrorist and for all future kidnapped Israeli. Threaten to start killing each and every terrorist on their list unless our soldier is immediately returned alive and well.
AK so glad you are paying atention. 25% of civilians in Israel not Jewish. That means 75% are. How can anyone forget the Church and deals made with Germany.They spoke out loud and clear about killing of mental ill and abortions BUT NOT THE KILLING OF JEWSS. We all know and rember that dark history that belongs to the church. You see Jews learn from history but they dont live in the past.
We jsu witnessed the episode of the 15 British sailors and marines. Let's rewind, replay slow motion, and learn lessons. In might even help to read the relevant syntheses of the scientific theories regarding themerits of reciprocal altruism on the website edge.org. Maybe, just maybe, after that, those who only understand the language of brutal force, superior military hardware, violence and destruction might credit Ismael Haniyeh with good intentions, having failed to do the same with Ahmadi-Nejad, at least so far. Then Shalit will be released and maybe Olmert could not only save his political skin but also catapult Israel to a path culminatin in a sustainable peace with Israel's neighbours.
"Finally, my dear, I would like to remind you that Catholic bishops in Germany in the 1930s and early 1940s also thought that Hitler was God`s gift to the German people." A fitting parallel to your acceptace of Hamas and your Jew-hate preaching imams, no?
"Property and land belonging to non-Jews is systematically confiscated and given to the Jewish agency." - please provide proof to this piece of drivel. There is no such thing as a Jews-only road. There ire Israeli-Only roads, for all Israelis, Jew and non-Jew, so that they can drive without fearing to get a bullet in their heads on their way to and from work. All your other drivel about transient or temporary citizenship belongs where it can be flushed. You seem to be a someone who is desparately trying to get into Israel but is being thwarted for some odd reason. I wonder what it is.
...in other Hebrew Daily's. Haaretz unfortunately is a newspaper that puts an agenda before all. The Pals are asking for 1300 prisoners, many with blood on their hands, in exchange for Shalit. Slightly more than what they asked for the 1st week he was kidnapped.
Real Civilization began when human beings began exchanging words at each other rather than rocks! And you "self designated English professors", who are you to critize a contributor because he is trying to communicate his thoughts in a language that is other than native to him. If you check out your response, your command of punctuation is a disgrace to N.Y.'s educational system. I believe, though perhaps naively, that without the interference of non-Mid-Eastern nations, the Mid-Eastern countries will settle their differences diplomatically. Negotiation is their forte! You don't have dialogue with your friends; you have dialogue with your perceived enemies. Thanks Haaretz for posting all the opposing views.
and 50% of Greater Israel's inhabitatns are Palestinians. SO where is the Jewish state? Besides, you can't have a Jewish state at another people's expense..by expelling millions to the four corners of the globe. That is a crime against Humaity..and God, the Just, doesn't condone crimes against humanity. Finally, my dear, I would like to remind you that Catholic bishops in Germany in the 1930s and early 1940s also thought that Hitler was God's gift to the German people...exactly as you thing that racist Israel is God's gift to the Jewish people? I think you people have lost your soul to the devil. Really.
Somehow I think it would be nice if the US press cared 1/10 as much about American MIAs. They rarely ask about Matt Maupin, an American soldier missing in Iraq for 3 years. Like Israelis, we don't really have a clue about what our government is actually doing, if anything. Congrats to the Israeli press for at least asking.
the only colonialist group remaining active all over the globe is zion, what one should call it other than blood sucker and damn barbaric colonialist? even this description is still too light for describing this ugly,nasty group of hyenas
Lets see if this gets posted Your postings sound so hateful, But we know you dont mean what you say. If you do, dont give your family polio vaccine, Dont you dare take MRI. If you or family member gets burnt dont use moder treatment. In case of emergency dont use cell phone. Jews brains involved with things mentioned YOu may hate us but are you going to hurt
G-D spreads us over the face of the earth so we all would not be murdered. No country woultake us in when we cried for help. G-d made sure it would never happin again. Jews have a state of their own Israel. Like the Christains have the Vatican
not Israeli soil. We don't recognize Israel right to exist since Israel doesn't recognize Palestine's right to exist. Even Tel Aviv is now disputed territory...we are going to adopt your tactics.
I bet Bhargouti goes free. If that's the case, Olmert should go to jail. The IDF should be forced to find and execute the kidnappers/capters of Shalit (so they don't get released later when some other Israeli gets kidnapped).
In Israel, non-Jews are viewed as transient or temporary citizens. Citizenship in Israel is secondary to nationality. This is why, Jew and non-Jew are not equal before the law. Property and land belonging to non-Jews is systematically confiscated and given to the Jewish agency. Indeed, Non-Jews are given citizenship on condition they accept apartheid. And in the West Bank, non-Jews are treated worse than animals. They are not allowed even to travel on Jewish-only roads. You live in New York..you have no idea what you are talking about. Israel face is ugly, ugly, ugly! happy holiday
You seem very buck with yourself and rightly so. However you are also very condescending. This is not Israel's first experience with kidnapped soldiers, or citizens. In previous instances Israel did not retaliate militarily and spent years negotiating, not even knowing if the abductees were alive or not. In most cases the result was releasing hundreds of prisoners for bodies. I would be prepared to conject that had Britian had had former experiences that ended in this way, they too would have taken a different stance.
I love the Israelis. The people, for the most part are peace loving people. I just wish that someday I could love to respect Israel. Now that's a different animal. Israel has all the ingredients to become a problem solver in the Mideast. It can pull the trigger for the purpose of peace instead of war.Perhaps if Israel brought some of its brightest scholars and philosophers to the negotiating table, along with some of its leader, we could have some positive results. But as long as aspirations of its present leaders continue to be the taking of land and that of occupation, we cannot reach any meaningful thing. Man, the entire Arab world will be Israel's market. Why think force when a fair peace can be more powerful for Israel's future? The youth of Palestine is ripe for the taking..for cooperation instead of being used by the hardliners for destruction. Israel can give them hope and in return earn their future respect. It's all there infront to them. Find the courage to reach it
of all of this is that there is N.O real progress.
"First the palestinian government (Hamas is the government) kidnaps Shalit. The world condemns the justified Israeli reprisal. Then the Lebanese government (Hezbollah is a major party in the government) kidnaps 2 IDF soldiers. The world condemns the justified Israeli reprisal again. Then Iran kidnaps 15 UK sailors and Marines. Suddenly, the Iranians and their surrogates are wrong and should be condemned. What do we learn from this?" The Israelis responded to the capture of their men in their usual way - no talks, just extreme violence in the belief that this would terrorise the captors into releasing them. Result? A great deal of death and destruction and the IDF men are still captive. The British responded to the capture of their 15 sailors with intensive talking, most of it done behind the scenes. These sailors are now back home. Shouldn't this be telling you something about the Israeli method, Jeffrey?
Shalit did not commit a crime and HE MUST BE RELEASED without a swap. The Palistinians DID COMMITS CRIMES and so are in prison to serve their term. SHAMELESS Palistinians, they have to kidnap a harmless soldier, to have their BLOOD THIRSTY brothers free.
Turks do not support Germans in the Second World War. They can. And it will be the end for British in Palestine and eshuv there, and the End of USSA when Germans brake to the Caucas mountains. But Turks was have inough of good will not to give in to Germany provocations. Dont forget they take us from Spane to, give to duk fo Nezus and donna Gracia lands for Jews in the Galily.
You are so wrong I have no idea where even to begin with a response.
any pre-conditions, any!!! He was abducted illegally from Israeli soil against all agreements with the PA. And if the PA claims to honor such agreements, it should have returned him without pre-conditions and should have appologize for having abducted him. But the PA continues to trade, since human life is of little value to it and its people.....
In the only Jewish state in the world Moslems and Christians live prosperous lives. The Israeli Knesset has Moslem representatives. Israeli Moslem have access to the best social security, health care and education in the region. Israeli Moslems and Christians enjoy a much higher standard of living then those in Arab countries. On the other hand in Moslem countries it is impossible to have a Jew enjoy the same, in fact Saudi Arabia do not even allow Jews to touch its soil. Judaism is not a hateful religion and I believe Islam too is the same but when you look at Darfur, Nigeria, Indonesia one wonders?
Most Turks are not racist, they are great people but many others have proven to be racist. In 1936 the traditional oil wrestling was moved to Kirklareli and during that period of time the homes of the Jews were attacked by the Turkish mobs, some killed, women and young girls raped, properties ransacked while the military did not intervened. In 1941 the Saracaglu government passed the infamous Varlik Vergisi which confiscated all the wealth and properties (even the pots and pans) of none Moslems. And in 1956 there were the September 6 and 7 incidents against none Moslems. This is racism and it was sanctioned by the Turkish government authorities at the time. Every nation has some god and some bad in their past, you must learn your history with all the good and the bad. And BTW try to learn better English.
Was he asleep? Or Ill? Or indifferent? Perhaps, just perhaps, he chose to let it happen? Can't that be my dear? Or is it incompatible with your false theology?
of good conduct. You people have been hating Islam and Jesus and Muhammed from creation. YOu are so hateful of non-Jews that you consider them goyem or animals. That is why we don't care about you...Islam can survive withotu Jewish approval...as it has for the last 1500 years.
pay for his crimes against Palstinian children...He has innocent blood on his hands.
POW's are persons caught in UNIFORM, engaged in war. It doesn't encompass terrorists (OUT OF UNIFORM) or common thieves. Actually, anyone terrorists caught out of uniform or in a fake uniform can be shot as a spy, he's not a legitimate combatant.
Shalit is not better than 10000 Palestinians held hostages by Israel. 1 Human being + 10000 Human beings=10001 human beings. Let us talk about all of them going home to their families. Shame on all those who are racist and discriminate.
..Holocaust really took place. It was not just occasional killing, it was a MURDER OF ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT PEOPLE. This MURDER was accompanied with dreadful atrocities. Very few TURKS condemned this. - What happened later (in our days) in BAKU and SUMGAIT prooves: "The world kept silence regarding ARMENIAN GENOIDE. - The AZERIES decided to continue." - Look, how muslims are "united" regarding Palestinians. Why they don't condemn their brethrens for QASSAMS, KIDNAPPINGS, SUICIDE BOMBINGS against JEWS? Why they don't condemn TURKS and AZERIES regarding murdering Armenians. - Is ISLAM really a religion of peace? If it is, we will hear voices of muslim people. If not, only Jews and Christians will support Armenians.
The "word" is that the glasses were given to Shalit, nobody has confirmed that he was in shape to wear them. During all the time since his kidnaping no neutral party has seen or conversed with him. As for the reports that he'll be "released shortly", we've been hearing that for months on end. Abbas say's it all the time.
Shalit was on duty, in uniform. The 9500 are either terrorists or common criminals. The 9500 have had access to medical care, neutral inspectors to see to their welfare and legal advice and can get pocket money to get extras from the PX. Shalit has been held incommunicado. Nobody knows if he's dead or alive or what his physical condition is.
1. In #78 he states: "I love Armenian people." 2. In # 79 he writes: "Nobody believes The Armenians, they are triying be like Jews. NO WAY. ONE MIILION LIGHT AWAY.one more think, friend, ASK THEM WHO DID PUT KNIFE BEHIND A TRUST. THEY SOLD US. MAYBE WE KILLED SOME. LET SAY WE KILLED THE AGENTS, THE PROVACATORS. LETS MAKE IT 500. LETS MAKE IT 700.ONE MILLION ! YOU, NOW SAY 1.5 MILLIONS. everyone lies." 3. In #82 again:"have a great day, Armenians Brothers"
I have been watching his case since a year. I did write many good wishes about him. I realy want his is back and his family happy. you dont even know me. I am okey. I have no problem with any people BUT THE MENTALITIES OF DEVIL love Atilla
...you dont like me here. I talk about Israel. BUT I LOVE JEWS. YOU TALK ABOUT THE ARMENIANS AND PKK but you look like you dont like Turks ? can you see the point. thanks. I just got home from work. I need to sleep. in 3-5 hours I responce if you will ask.
1. PKK is TERROR ORGANIZATION. lets be honest. 2. We love you, Armenians ! whats wrong with you ? I know you, good. You are good people. you have a country. try to keep it.
The problem facing Abbas a year ago was accomplishing something to show he was still a factor in the PA. Thanks to both his enemies, Hamas and the firm of Bush & Olmert, he has accomplished nothing. He should shut up until he has achieved freedom for Shalit. All Abbas is doing with statements about 'release near' is proving his impotence.
right to exist, so why are you commenting about this issue?!
WHEN 1200 IRA MEN WERE IN BRITISH JAILS DID THEY CLAIM TO BE POWS AND ENTITLED TO RED CROSS PARCELS FROM GENEVE?? STICK TO WHAT YOU KNOW LADY !!! WHICH IS F ALL. THE 10,00O ARABS ARE TERRORISTS, PURE AND SIMPLE AND THEIR ARAB BROTHERS THOUGHT KIDNAPPING SHALIT WOULD OBTAIN ARANSOM !!
Kidnapping is their -modus operandi- for the release of more prisoners in the future.
What other country would allow itself to be blackmailed by a group of armed terrorists in this manner? Sincerely, Boyo
PKK is not a terror organization !! Eventhougth Tukeys refuse to see us as freedom fighters !!! We just want our land back ! We just want justice !!! Turkey hate us (Armenians), treat us with double standard ! Refuse to recognise our right for a country ! Worst all Muslmis country support and assist them !
9000 Palestinian POW,s in Israeli Gaols. So what is the hulla ballu about.
Whilst never having been a fan of Sharon, neither when wearing his Likud nor Kadima hats. Most in the present Govt's brains are LESS active than that of Arik Sharon. Even in his unfortunate, present State. However you seem to be missing one IMPORTANT point when you say: "Perfect example of why 'WE' should get out & vote" You live in NYC & much as many in the Galut feel they have the right to DICTATE what we DECIDE in ISRAEL, you do not have the VOTE!! IF, you are PG saying that you are coming 'HOME' to join us in ISRAEL, I for one say "Baruch Ha'Ba" WELCOME HOME!
To Number 32 Yes, Israel does hold a large number of Palestinian prisoners, but every one of his family members knows exactly where he is, that he is alive, receive parcels and letters and many of them can even get visits from his family even if it may take a long time to organise. The families of our captured boys know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about their sons. That includes the boys missing since 1982. does anyone wonder why we don't believe anything coming out of the mouths of their captors. What humane treatment!?
Armenian guys, I got to leave for work. Do not think I run. it means I cant responce if you talk to me. But, Night I responce. bye bye
WE ARE GOOD PEOPLE, BROTHER. but world love to play on us, always. we all know the details. lets be honest, friend. YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE ARE GENERALLY GOOD PEOPLE. WE DONT HURT ANYONE UNLESS THEY TRY TO DESTROY OUR TRUST. we are not racists. you know, our hearts are clean as babies. but, we always have warrier characters. lets hope someday to take the control again. look like world need a leader nation.
Untrustable and false. We should always beware !
Nobody believes The Armenians, they are triying be like Jews. NO WAY. ONE MIILION LIGHT AWAY. one more think, friend, ASK THEM WHO DID PUT KNIFE BEHIND A TRUST. THEY SOLD US. MAYBE WE KILLED SOME. LET SAY WE KILLED THE AGENTS, THE PROVACATORS. LETS MAKE IT 500. LETS MAKE IT 700. ONE MILLION ! YOU, NOW SAY 1.5 MILLIONS. everyone lies.
dont lie, friend. Now you made it 1.5 millions. this is the reason I hate politics. I love Armenian people. But I dont respect the bad politicians. ARMENIANS ARE NOT JEWS. sorry.
The guy is the most ineffectual leader in Palestinian political history...He makes constant pledges to both his people and the international community yet delivers NOTHING, has delivered ABSOLUTELY nothing, and has the chutzpah to babble about Shalit since last year (who shouldn't be freed anyway, until all Palestinian prisoners trapped in Israeli dungeons are returned to their families and lives!). As far as reality is concerned, Abbas is irrelevant (so it Olmert btw).
YOU MANAGED TO DISTORT THE TRUTH ON VERY LINE !! ISRAELS FOUNDERS WERE THE VERY OPPOSITE OF TERRORISTS . THE LEGAL BEGINNING IN 1917. IN ORDER TO BE A PRISONER OF WAR THERE MUST BE A WAR!! SHALIT HAS BEEN KIDNAPPED BY A TERRORIST GANG AND THE SO CALLED ARAB AUTHORITIES HAVE FAILED TO RETURN HIM ON DEMAND THE LAME DUCK /BRAIN ABBAS BEING THE USUAL ARAB TWO FACED LIAR !! YOU OF COURSE ARE EITHER AN ARAB OR JUST PLAIN OLD ANTI SEMITE
The big difference is that at the time the British prisoners were taken, the UK was not occupying Iran and they were not oppressing Iranians.
place, and should have been returned unconditionally to Israel shortly after. Not having done so, the PA is a sham, claiming to honor all signed agreements, yet refuse to adhere to the only proper thing to do after this illegal abduction took place -- to return Shalit now without pre-contions.
How easy it is fot you, TURKS, to accuse Israelis. - Remember: Israelis could arrange GENOCID of ARABS (in 1948 and 1967), but they didn't. - Remember: Arabs wanted to arrange GENOCID of Jews in 1948 and 1967, but they couldn't. - You, TURKS, are not innocent sheep. Your grandfathes MURDERED 1.5 mln. Armenians. You never recognized it. You had never apologized for it. How shameful!
NOW THAT SHALIT HAS HIS EYE GLASSES , HE MOST LIKLY WILL BE RESCUED DUE TO OUR INCREASED VISION OF HIS EXACT LOCATION!!!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY ISRAEL GETS THEIR MONEYS WORTH OF TECHNOLOGY!!! 007
Abbas can say anything as the cowardly israeli defence minister will not respond .Peretz is to busy ejecting israeli pioneers somewhere else.Had olmert and co spent the same time and effort to release Shalit as spent on the pioneers in hebron Shalit would have been home (without army permission to buy) for Pessach.
"Abbas, speaking from the Gaza Strip, also said he HOPED Israel would release hundreds of Palestinians held in Israeli prisons. But he said Shalit's release SHOULD not be tied to that of the Palestinian prisoners.. "I am convinced Shalit MUST be freed." - Haartz Abbas has no influence over the release of Shalit. This is between Israel and the captors (Hamas and PRC). Shalit will be released if and when Israel and the captors agree on the list of prisoners to be released, which apparently is the last obstacle to the prisoners' exchange. Abbas knows, as does channel 10, that a list of names was handed to Israel, so he jumps ahead with his announcement. Abbas can't tell if Olmert will accept or not. At least his announcement is couched in careful language such as "Shalit MUST be freed" etc, but he can't make it happen.
In name of mercifull Mohamad !! Show pity to the helpless Armenian children and women. Your people had already massacred 1 million of our people !!! Show a little mercy !! Let our children live !!!!
I almost feel ur pain. U r almost on the right wavelength. Unfortunately u r still too taken with Arab propoganda to see things straight. But there is some hope in ur remarks ; just study ur leaders a bit more. U may find them to be less honorable than u think.
From FASCIST to God. U speak to GOD too? What other underdeveloped habits of mind do u carry on ur journey to nowhere? Keep up ur good work-- Turkey needs u!!!
R U SURE U KNOW WHAT THE WORD FASCIST MEANS? I HAVE MY DOUBTS. SUGGESTION: INVESTIGATE THE MEANING OF THE WORD BEFORE U USE IT AGAIN
Very interestig about those medical doctors, bring the memories of dr. Mengele. Yehuda HaLevy, Mihail Bulgakov, Anton Chehov, Gavirol was a medical doctors too. But they are all wrighters.
What Atilla Karazoglu realy means, is like that Italian movie -Meditareneo. That is the Meditaranian culter, Una Faza, Una Raza, lets trade have good life, share good food and a good humore. Turks can defenatly can do all those thinks, we too, but the questions is about arabs.
ANYONE IN THIS WORLD LOVE TO HAVE MY COUNTRY, I STOP - that's why we are defending ourselves from the Palestinians who want our country. As most people who bash Israel - it's always different when it comes to your own country, isn't it?
How quick Israelis have forgotten that Israel's founders were terrorists and were far more sinister than Hamas as they were invading the homeland of others, while Hamas is simply defending their homeland from occupation. Shalit is not some innocent victim, he was a member of the IDF, one of the most immoral and corrupt armies ever, and his capture and imprisonment as a POW should continue until Israel accepts peace or there is a prisoner exchange.
Every nation gets the leaders that they deserve. You wrote that you like Fascism (facists to me are good people, they love their nations) and you have kind of a fascist leadership who only received 25% of the votes and still the majority of your congress. Soon RTE will become your president and your country back to middle ages. Israel prefers to be a western democracy. Same as what the great Kemal Ataturk wanted for Turkey which your generation of Turks has abandoned.
LOok at Sharons past history. If he was leader and the man he was once the Pal would think 2 before the entered Israel andf took its military as hostages Kedima voted in by very few voters. THis is perect example why we should get out and vote
Should this surprise you? Do you know that the majority of Palestinian terror leaders have a higher education of some sort. Zarqawi (Al Qaeda) is a Pediatrian. So was Rantissi (Hamas). Interesting that in upholding their Hypocratic Oath they put thousands of children in the crosshairs for their terror agenda. I'm not sure of the entrance policy into these universities but they must be very proud to have a year book that looks like the CIA's most wanted list.
"ANYONE IN THIS WORLD LOVE TO HAVE MY COUNTRY" You might want to make another survey. According to the results of the media, the only people who have interest in Turkey are one's who wish to carve it apart - Islamists, Kurds, etc. You might want to read history (which in your country is probably not available) and see how living under the Turks were. Specifically, read about the death marches of the Palestinian Arabs who included those who didn't join the Turkish draft during WWI, and we marched from town to town - and slaughtered in public, or hung in the central square. "We dont kill. WE LOVE." Your actions speak otherwise on a local level.
Funny, for the past 60 years Arabs have claimed that the G-d of Israel is no more, that Israel's time to die is now, and Israelis are weak... yet...60 years have passed and Israel still exists, even after massive onslaughts by its neighbors and very public calls for genocide. Hmm, if Israel is without G-d, I wonder how they would do WITH G-d. Syrian, if you are sick of fights, then why are you complaining on an Israeli website? The address is Damascus! Israel has very few demands for peace, but they are without compromise - Peace will come when Israel's existance is not threatened - by terrorists in WB/Gaza or Damascus. Jordan and Egypt do not host terrorists anymore, and we have peace with them - it's an equation that works. In 1999, there was hope that Israelis could soon visit Beirut and Damascus and meet their neighbors - voiced publically. Voice publically in Syria and Lebanon was a call for Israel to be wiped off the map. "Love thy neighbor" is a 2-way street.
Turks living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones! Please spare us your BULLSHIT and take care of your own glass house where racism and the mass murder of the Armenian people hang over your heads. Get a life and make amends to the Armenian nation.
This is the 3rd instance of state sponsored terrorism and Iran and their proteges see no need to cease. First the palestinian government (Hamas is the government) kidnaps Shalit. The world condemns the justified Israeli reprisal. Then the Lebanese government (Hezbollah is a major party in the government) kidnaps 2 IDF soldiers. The world condemns the justified Israeli reprisal again. Then Iran kidnaps 15 UK sailors and Marines. Suddenly, the Iranians and their surrogates are wrong and should be condemned. What do we learn from this? As long as you are jewish (or Israeli) its OK to terrorize.
sorry for my language. I got to be serious. I am from Istanbul. easy to find me.
you remind me of Borat, kebab style
Is it because you love everone so much that you expressed your feelings by killing Father Santoro and Hrant Dink. If this is how Turks express their love they should maybe stop loving. But frankly most educated and modern Turks unlike you are realy peaceful and good. Unfortunately we only hear the voices of the Turks who are full of hate.
..and should be used as such. It's funny no one is talking about thousands of Palestinian civilians captured by the zionists.
are you calling me a killer ? ANYONE IN THIS WORLD LOVE TO HAVE MY COUNTRY, I STOP. I am sure you get this kindly point. Note: We dont kill. WE LOVE.
God has never left Israel...not ever. Nor will He EVER. #6, have you not read the Love Story called the Bible? No, I'm not Jewish either. Though I can be thankful and accepting of God's choosing. If you ever read the story, maybe you could be too. You may even discover... it could very well include you.
I've often wondered that very question. I have come to the conclusion they are a very self destructive lot. Pretty much sums up the answer. Don't want tobore you with any details.
Shalit will at least be able to see the lock on his door much more clearly. Clear sight of one's imprisonment is at least a release from uncertainty. Bitter fruit though.
Pals risk their lives because just like the PKK terrorists they are brainwashed and trained to kill. PKK kills innocent Turks at the Mavi Carsi and Palestinian terrorists kill Israeli innocent pregnant ladies at the mall entrance. Maybe instead of worrying about Israel's leaders you should think about your soon to come presidential elections. You may be heading into the middle ages with your AKP government and RTE becoming your president. Will you go and protest on April 14?
Then again, if I remember correctly, Israel in the past has set palestinian terrorists free in exchange for the REMAINS of a dead Israeli. That's the most insane thing I've ever heard. Who makes these decisions? "Hi, if you give us the dead body of an Israeli you killed, we will set your terrorists free so those terrorists can go ahead and kill more Israelis so there will be more dead bodies to clean up." Brilliant! To start being sarcastic, I want Israel to do what makes sense. To help Israel. What makes sense is to avoid killing innocent people (which I'd say 99.9% of Israeli soldiers try to do), to shut up about its mistakes instead of broadcasting them to the world, and to only negotiate stuff that makes sense. Setting lunatics free because some silly ultra-orthodox can get a dead body makes no sense, especially since setting lunatics free is more likely to create more dead bodies.
Carmela, I fully agree with you. Last year I (now 70) with my wife and a large group were on vacation in Israel. We travelled the whole country from Dan to Eilat and 5 days in Jerusalem. A wonderful experience for all of us. Big question: why not live side by side in peace for the benefit of the country and her inhabitants. Now there is so much suffering on both sides. We spend half a day working in Hazon Yeshaya, soupkitchens in Jerusalem. So much hidden poverty. We pray for the Peace of Jerusalem and hope the leaders getting wise and don't make war.
If it were your family? How many then? One is a priceless jewel.
Please tell that to your government and post a letter to Iran with that info as well. Thank you. :)
on his thesis declaring the Holocaust to be a hoax. Just one more Palestinian who will disappoint everyone. I hold no anticipation for peace coming from the Palestinians. The brief history of the Palestinian people is replete with lies, delusion, corruption, and extreme violence. You simply cannot make peace with people who are not in the peace-making business, and have no concept whatsoever of the most basic of Democratic principles. and finally, 9 months to get a pair of specs they could have got in 9 minutes from the local optician. Believe it when I see them on Gilad's face.
is he also convinced that anyone that had anythign to do with his kidnapping and was in any way shape or form responsible for holding him should be thrown in jail??? let me guess just like all those responsible for the other kidnappings, nothing will happen to these people too. i really hope gilad is alive, but my gut says he isnt. are we to believe that with everything that hamas was saying about IDF operations, that he was being held safely? where in the world would you find a safe place in gaza and what terrorist would be responsible for the well being of an israeli? honestly.
Israel would have to be insane to consider releasing hundreds or thousands of terrorists in exchange for one Israeli. They should offer to release non-violent prisoners or something, but to even consider 900 for 1, or 5000 for 1, or whatever insane stuff has been reported, would be nuts. How about 1 for 1? Or 10 for 1? I want Shalit released, safe and happy, but it needs to happen in a manner that is sane. It can't be at the expense of letting dozens of hundreds of people out who, a few weeks or months later, will wind up blowing some Israelis up.
It will be a happy and sad to when/if Shalit is returned. I am curious what he will say assuming he is still alive.
If they haven't caused the worst image in the world of Islam, I really don't know who has. Hezbollah is claiming humane treatment, but I doubt it strongly. Abbas has said the same crap before and nothing has happened. Looks like they are all on a downward spiral.
HENOCIDE. Armenians were murdered by TURKS, your grandfathers. TURKEY and TURKS should apologize.
This is the same headline spoken by Abu Mazen two+ weeks ago. Either the PA president was lying then or is lying now. Either way, his credibility is piss poor.
Every one seem to advocate humanity here. There is no mention of 9,500 Palestinian prisoners. It is all about this poor "israeli" soldiers! What about the those 9,500 families?
Abbas a wolf in sheeps clothing...a receiver of a Phd. based on lies..a leader of fools and murderers...we are supposed to believe what he says?This man who lives on a steady diet of lies and deceit..this man who probably knows where Shalit is and refuses to help him...this man,this fraud,this poor excuse for a human being. Israel is dealing with the devil and unfortunately Israel will have to swing with a mighty blow.
Tomorrow, tomorrow...Abbas' Little Orphan Annie shtick.
that his FATHER BOUGHT in Israel and had them passed on to his son by Egyptians. Gaza, a mess passing for civilized society. Weren't there any Opticians available so that Shalit didn't have to wait 9 months to see properly. Arabs in Israeli jails, in comparison to Shalit, live in the lap of luxury, medical services and legal visits, PX services. Abbas has promised Shalit will be released "SOON", I've lost count of how many times Abbas has made the very same promise.
How the hell can we believe you!!!???? Unless you confirm visually that Gilad Shalit is alive. Maybe the glasses are now sitting in Hamas drawing room, another symbol of domination????!!!!
He won't be released this is just another cruel joke on Shalits family and the world and it only shows how barbaric Hamas really is.
Suddenly Hezbollah, Hamas and their ilk are humane? Is this the same Hezbollah that cares less about the carnage they cause to innocent victims of their demented fanaticism, hides behind women and children and launches rockets at civilians from hospitals, schools and daycares? These rabid mongrels don't understand the meaning of humane and conveniently use the prophet Mohammed's name whenever it suits their twisted cause. Humane treatment is unconditionally returning all illegally captured and held Israelis to their families. End of story.
for arab humanitarians! next we will be thanking persian hostage takers.
and stop with your BS. Nobody here is buying. Maybe you can sell your wares to a prisoner in an Istanbul prison, a part of Turkey I'm sure you are familiar with. ;-)
to past agreements negotiated and signed by it, it would release Gilad Shalit now, without any preconditions, since his very abduction was against all the signed agreements it negotiated and signed. But the PA is not interested in adhering to signed agreements. Neither it is interested in recognizing Israel's right to exist, or for that matter in ending its acts of terror against Israel and Israelis. This is the Palestinian Authoristy, the leadership of the Palestinian people, missing yet another opportunity in a long chains of such misses to establishe a peaceful relationship between the Palestinians and Israel.
I'm sure it's not easy, but other long term prisoners outlasted both their captors and the politicians who let them languish. There is no doubt that is captivity will affect the rest of his life. But that affect need not be catastrophic.
In one piece hopefully lets stay positive. On the plus side by accepting the glasses, it is an indication that this young chap is alive. I am not sure if it is being reported in Israel at the moment but there are reports that Shalit will be released shortly on the news wires. The delivery of the glasses could be part of this process. I have had a word with him upstairs to see what he can do. I know there is one thing we cannot do is give up.
grateful for this magnanimous gesture? How kind and generous the Pals are? PLEEEZ!!!!!!
I hope they inserted a tracking device in the eyeglasses
your so right, love the neighbor, we are sick of this fights, we want peace.
dror, this is what i am sick of, it's the tit for tat syndrome in the middle east, olmert could actually do something that would not jeapordie anymore israelis lives whatsoever, yet alot of jews here think differently, i think the arabs are just as sick of this more than jews, their economy is not booming as they would like, so they have to spend money they don't have on arms and weapons, and israel does the same, when is all the BS gonna stop? i am not spinning propaganda but your politicians are not paying you , YOU are paying them, and what have you really got in return? unrest, uncertainty? our prime minister is getting voted out next election, if i was un-democratic, i would have screamed for his blood now, but he is definately out, he is arrogant like bush and olmert.
OMG, did you really say that?
In the name of political correctness the powers that be have decided that there will be an end to the words "war on terror" and "terrorists". they will now be referred to as "militants" or "insurgents". Muslims feel the previous words are giving them a bad name.
Shalit is a poor guy who was doing his military duty when all this happened. I hope he is freed soon. He suffers because of the leaders like Bibi and Sharon who are racist and whose only aim is to make the life a hell for the Palestinians. So it would be very nice if Shalit is exchanged with Bibi who will then see with his own eyes what are the living conditions in Gaza. Palestinians undertook this nasty kidnap affair risking their lives. I consider kidnapping a horrible act but on the other hand, why do they risk their lives so easily, the Palestinians, did you ever think about that ?
They gave him back his glasses??? This neans all this time he was deprived from reading, so now they have been nice to him by letting him read?? Are Palestinians deprived from their glasses in Israeli prisons??? Come on guys.. this is a serious issue, we are dealing with state sponsored terrorism!!
Let?s start by calling a terrorist a terrorist.Just when it is needed most, plain language and common sense are being lost. Hamas targets Israeli civilians in an attempt to force them to change their political views. That is terrorism and Hamas is a terrorist organisation.
I strongly believe that SOME PEOPLE MUST TALK. IF THEY TALK FROM SOUL. WHEN YOU ACT POLITICS, WE ACT POLITICS, WHEN YOU JERK WE THE GREAT JERK, WHEN YOU DOUBLE-DEALER , WE ARE DOUBLE-DEALER. NO MATTER YOU WIN IN THE END, WASTING TIME IS WHAT WE ALL NEED LAST. SOME BIRDS LIVE JUST COUPLE MONTHS. THEY SOUND GOOD. THEY DONT COME ANOTHER SEASON. KEEP PROBAGANDA...BUT AT THE SAME TIME, DO NOT TOUCH SOME PEOPLE. love Atilla Karagozoglu
dont even waste your time. THIS IS YOU. AND YOU WILL LOSE IN LONG RUN AS LONG AS YOU GO FOR DREAMS. YOU HAVE LOST IN THE GOD. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO WIN, TO LOVE AND TO SHARE WITH OTHERS.
Israel, your leaders are double-dealer. this is not the others same. this is their characters are too foxy. get rid of them. they even not are good facists (facists to me are good people, they love their nations). SAVE ISRAEL FROM THEM. FORGET THE GOD (G-D). G-D IS NOT WITH YOU. TRUST ME. ONLY GOOD FACIST CAN MAKE ISRAEL BETTER.
You made me glad. Peaceful Friday to you and to Shalite Shabbat Shalom Teacher and Muslim up to last my day
I dont believe existing Israeli politicians want HE IS FREE. been too foxy can turn with many pains. you cant build a home ON DIRT IDEAS. If I will be allowed to talk here, from now on my news side is here. If I will be stopped time to time do not allow this posts. I dont think, you guys will be afarid of the ideas of this TURK. love Atilla Karagozoglu
This poor kid will be permanently scarred for life. I will not be surprised if he feels as though his country betrayed him, and wants to leave Israel when and if he is released alive. I would rather be dead than put my life in the hands of Olmert. The next war should not be fought with the current regime we have. You were negligent and lost soldiers that are now prisoners and hostages, pay the price for your failure, release terrorists with blood on their hands, show all of Israel how inept and useless you are as leaders instead of letting those boys pay the price for your incompetence. You are asking them to suffer so that Israel should not be embarrased and humiliated. IT IS TOO LATE FOR THAT.
The militant Mohammed Kamati?? He is member of a terrorist group so why doesnt Haaretz call him a terrorist?