Goldstone's daughter: My father's participation softened UN Gaza report

You are what we call a fair weather fan. Mr. Goldstone is okay until he does something that you disapprove of in the report. I do not have a position onthe issue because I have not read the report. As a Californian I cannot ask that you mentioned it is biased. Any facts to base that on? You clearly espoused his credentials before the report.

have you lost your mind, as the world turns agaisnt Israel, so will G-d bring down judgement on them that come agaisnt his people, if cananda was bombing America would we just smile and say oh well its all good, no way would we, whay in your mind would say Israel did anything wrong, please step the batter box. and be a real man.

That's where the ICC has it's headquarters. Between the testimony of the brave IDF soldiers who recounted war crimes and HRW and Bet Shalom, there seems to be ample grounds for prosecution.

Why is it possible for a Jew to have double allegiance, and it is a treason for any other national? Do you remember a Pledge of Allegiance, Mr. Goldstone?! Do you remember the pledge every new immigrant gives to his new country, the US?

"this is one of the most damaging things ever done to Israel" It is Operation Cast Lead that was the most damaging thing ever done to Israel. And it was done by Israelis themselves, never expecting the world to react.

Instead of preferring to get some celebrity status, if your father had been objective and smart enough he would have known that he was being "used" and He should have never accepted that position for 2 reasons: Israel waited 4 years to retaliate to the Hamas aggression and unfortunately Hamas uses the civilian population, therefore so much collateral damage. Second, The UN is totally biased anti-Israel and Pro Iran.

with such friends who needs enemies?

A blogger, http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/ has done a great job of reviewing and highlighting all of the factual inaccuracies in the report.

Are they investigating?

...my bad. Afghan president Hamid Karzai has ordered a second investigation into the raid after speaking with family members of the dead Afghan journalist. Even in Afghanistan there is more fact finding and investigation that the whitewashes that always come out of Israel.

You are a blatant racist " chinki, pakis and paddys"? Monitor kick this racist out, this is not the first post from V.Hardman that stinks of racist undertones.

In the heat of battle 'self-defence' can become punitive... it was on that contentious dividing-like that Judge Goldstone had to tread...

Obviously you are more qualified and informed of the events than Judge Goldstone. Read the full report before critisizing a man more educated, honest, and qualified than yourself. What you are saying is that Goldstone has deliberately made up stories...shame..

I stood up for Mr Goldstone on these pages when his appointment was announced, knowing his background and as a fellow South African lawyer, whose reputation both locally and internationally. Having seen the report, I am lost for words, and no amount of input from his daughter or anyone else can smooth over the fact that this is one of the most damaging things ever done to Israel from a legal point of view. Its bias is palpable and without reference to the context and neighbourhood that Israel finds itself in. I feel sorry for Mr Goldstone, as this will be his legacy; and it is not a good one.

Several days ago British troops freed a New-York Times reporter kidnapped by the Taliban in Afghanistan. This operation cost many civilian lives - men, women and children. I wonder, will the honourable UN - Human Rights Comittee investigate into it or they don't have the guts to blame the strong ones: USA, Britain, Russia, it's easier to aim at Israel!

If in fact what the daughter says is true, and its a serious breach for her to have this information (surprise!), then Goldstone's participation was yet another gift to the terrorists and their sympathizers who want to liquidate Israel & thereby expose Jews the dangers they have been exposed to since they had the state. The report is sheer lunacy and had it been more lunatic, that would not have been worse but better. Goldstone's participation gave the panel, in the eyes of much of the world, who cares and knows little about the accuracy of its content, a patina of legitimacy. I have to say that he should be deeply ashamed of himself, deligitimzing Israel's right to self defence. There may, and I can't say that with any knowledge, excesses in the exercise of self defence, but essentially self defence was the nature of the exercise. Let other countries deal with terrorists harboured in the density and labyrinth of Gaza and see how many dead there will be.

I heard Richard Gladstone on the BBC worldservice radio and I was impressed with his thoroughness and fair mindness. Yet once again Israeli officials are showing their bias by looking for a pass instead of accepting responsibility for their crimes. How irresponsible! But Gaza's war crimes have outraged the free world and people and demanding justice for the victims and their families as they would if the shoe was on the other foot. Dutch

is an impressive woman.

Peres is a figure-head who must try his utmost not to contradict or undermine the reigning governmental constellation... Goldstone is a judge who interprets and adheres to basic laws, as mercifully as he can...

Of two things I am convinced. Peres is a fair and balanced man. He read the report and concluded it was wrong. Therefore I am convinced Peres is right, and Goldstone took on the task to stroke his ego.

Like so many anti-jews-anti-Israeli organizations the world over, the hated UN finds the need to bring their own Jew (I think Bil-am be Beor must have been a Jew!)to discredit Israel, more like giving Israel bashing a legitimate stamp. Sow me a Jewish judge and I'll show you a self hating leftist. Why are all Jewish judges leftists? simply. they all had to go through the same schools and indoctrination. voilà. Happy New Year.

...there was no such actions on the part of Palestinian armed groups including Hamas. There were however episodes of the IDF using civilians for human shields. You really should read the report in its entirety. It will take a while, but those in the halls of power will surely read it and President Obama will get a full report (if he has not already) as well. Israel, in its current configuration, faces a very uncertain future. Quickly choosing peace and reconciliation could mitigate some of the bleakness that Israel now faces due to the well-documented facts in this damning report.

I still don't understand why the Middle East is the only conflict to be investigated by the UN; why the words 'disproportionate use of arms' and 'crimes against humanity' are used only in the context of the war between Israel and any of her Arab neighbors. Why didn't Mr. Goldstone have the chutzpa to tell the UN that if he were to investigate Operation Cast Lead, then the operation in Afganistan, Iraq and other warring nations should also be investigated

My feeling from the start was that with a Jewish Judge, a Governor of Hebrew University, Israel should cooperate. He couldn't do as complete a job if the Israelis refused to speak to him, and Israel must sooner or later do its own investigation and report to answer his points. It would have been saner to just work with him and produce a balanced report in the first place. Barak and Bibi got it wrong.

Now what do we do? Blame Peres' for his answer in the other article herein? Let me put it another way: How wrong is Peres and how wrong is Goldstone?

... but he did not seek retribution, on the contrary, conciliation is what he aimed for... ... the current problem with Israel is that it shuns conciliation... even though it holds-most-of-the-cards in its hands...

This guy Goldstone reminds me very much of the GREAT JEW Bruno Kraisky once Prime Minister of Austria. He was the first guy to lay out a red carpet for the Murderer and terrorist Mr.Arafat.

Self hating Jews such as Naomi Klein, Finkelstein, and now judge Goldstone are our worst enemies.. It is a pity that at this time of year when we are supposed to be empathetic to one another that the works of Klein @ the Toronto Film Festival and the work of Goldstone come out.. Their actions are unforgivable. May Hashem help these poor souls and the New Year bring reason to these people.

So you listened to the astute Judge once and you were very impressed. So what? Hitler showed his love for dogs and children too. So what? The facts are Hamas purposely placed children in line of fire to get publicity like this. I'm surprised at you, I know you better than this.

... we will not get another of his calibre when the Gaza War issue comes up for judgement again...

RACISM.

In plain English the daughter claims that her father slanted the report. Whether this is for or against Israel, it simply means that personal opinions or prejudices are allowed to intrude and slant what is supposed to be a purely objective report. Thus the report is most definitely not objective. Without realizing what she said, (a) she has confirmed the total subjectivity of the report, and (b) has provided support to Hamas/PLO in their claim that it is unfair to them. Clear case of "heads they win/tail you lose".

http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsession/9/docs/UNFFMGC_Report.pdf At 575 pages, it'll take a while.

The real test is whether the report is accurate or not. Those who are accusing Goldstone of bias, most of them without having bothered to read the 575-page report, should read the report and if they find it contains false information or mistakes they can point those out and argue on the basis of something concrete and not just scream from the rooftops that the report is "anti-Israel" because it does not do the army's bidding. Lets be serious.

Did the Israeli spokesmen who lambasted it read it before lashing out?

He called convicted murderers "political prisoners", thereby providing legitimacy to Pal propaganda. Some learning....a real scholar.

...the full report and it is thorough and factual. It follows the entire timeline that was obvious to those of us who followed every news report before, during, and after. Palestinian militant groups are taken to task for their actions, and that's how it should be. But Israel's actions will shock and appall even the most jaded. the totality of what Israel wrought is there in the report in black and white. Israel is at a very serious crossroads.

The Muslim world should be grateful to you for making the Hamas murderers look no different than the IDF - an army bound by rules and overseen by courts. Any honest person knows that the only party responsible for war crimes was Hamas.

used by the extremists to put on a media circus to hurt Israel.Your father does not care about peace.The Hamas and Iran place the Gaza people in the war and threw rockets at Israelis for 8 years.they knew what would happen when Israel tried to protect its citizens. People like your father are low souls who lack discernment and compassion.He actually is also hurting the Gaza people who were victims of their own leadership only and not Israel who Hamas forced into this war.This report didn't need to be softened.it needed to be rewritten only for Hamas and PA.As a spiritualist, your father's karma will pay a big price as will all those low souls who go against Israel protecting itself.I actually feel sorry for your father for the continued deception he is placing on the world and destracting the world from the true monsters, the true enemies of humanity, Hamas,Hizbollah,Iran,Chavez,Syria.......

Once, many years ago, I had the pleasure to listen to Judge Goldstone in Johannesburg. A real gentleman as well as an astute judge who was trusted by blacks and whites alike. Now the locals are trying to question his credentials because they do not like his report. What is the fuss all about, does anybody really think that when hundreds of children get killed it is still a fair game?

Churchill ordered to bomb Dresden - more than 100,000 civilians dead. Truman ordered to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki about half a million casualties. Criminals? They smashed out Fashism and tyranny! The Gaza campaign was the first step of the Free World to wipe out the horror of Islamic monster.

Because, when Goldstone was originally handed his mandate by the 100% non bias United Nations, he was originally mandated to investigate Israeli atrocities only. He then refused to investigate unless the mandate examined both sides. So yes Goldstone did "soften" the report by ensuring that it, and contrary to its original mandate, examined both sides... Personally, I see that as discrediting the whole, and exposing the ugly underside of International Law and Politics, which you'd think, should be seperate but alas the world isn't Ideal, as many here love to think

Israel once refused entrance visa to the Jew. Goldstone however is worse than a gangster, he puts in jeopardy 7 million innocent people.

This report confirms what most thinking people already know. But the truth is far worse. As his daughter has said, Goldstone softened the blow for Israel.

Home is where the heart is.

First of all, hia being a South African conjures up images of apartheid, which pleases every anti-Zionist. Secondly, Goldstone's being a Zionist meant that any anti-Israel pronunciation of the commission would be considered fair and just, for Goldstone "is an honourable man; So are they all, all honourable men". Thirdly, Goldstone could not afford to take a truly objective course, for then he would have been accused of being pro-Zionist and therefore unfit to head the commission.