German FM meets with Fayyad in first talks with PA unity government

right to exist,then you keep their sorry asses up!dont come begging to the international community for money to commit terrorism.your a moron just like the pals!i hope they suffer for eternity!

Just say No! No to Hamas! No to Hezbullah! No to culture of terror! Bravo Germany for making a stand! Finally, Europe demonstrates guts.

Your zionist arab conflict is for us germans horrible. Everything for what we do, somebody critize us. Our gov't and our Kanzler is not the big problem. Your hate is the problem. Hate and kill that is the language of the middle east and afghanistan. It makes me sick if I see young teenager walking with guns and bombs on the streets (the are so happy total grazy). This are the typical pictures of the middle east. I never see palastine and arabic youth playing soocer basketball or doing something normal in the media. Your people are blind of hate, the hate everything I think the hate themselfes. Hate in the name of god? It's although strange for us see Israel youth sitting in bar with machine guns. Sometimes it seems that this gun make an adult. We germans already paid our price in afghanistan for your hate in the name of god(what god is a hating god) and I'm afraid that we will pay more. So better get normal a german

Steinmeier is the deplorable heritage from the ill-fated former leftist Schroeder government in the Merkel coalition. He was the architect of the anti-Israel and anti-US positions that culminated by one of its ministers in a comparison of Bush with Hitler. To date, Steinmeier survived all political scandals like the one one year ago, when German State TV reported that Steinmeier knew for years about illegal German shipments for the secret Iranian nuclear programme and the Air Force. Steinmeier let it happen in order to exacerbate the US, threatening the security of Israel. His chief advisers are pro-Arab, some have studied in Damascus. His visit and his remarks must be seen from this background. He will also always try to play the Syrian card, backing the rogue regime in Damascus. Israel should not put the same trust in him as she is doing with Angela Merkel.

I think only the Israelis can decide when to fight, since they must do the fighting and suffer the consequences. For others to goad them on is cowardly unless they wish to join the IDF and risk their lives. Bob Poris

I think the Palestinain entity has enough money to build tunnels;buy arms; pay private militias,etc. Perhaps they should change their priorities and help their people improve their economy before International aid is given. They have proven that they are not able to govern their entity in a peaceful manner. More aid will not solve their internal problems. They are not stable enough to govern let alone make peace with an entity they do not recognize. Bob Poris

claim that even the Palestinians don't make a connection with the ancient Philistines and I asked: why then do they call their latest newspaper filistin?This is actually an interesting question.And only bigots like you take umbrage at that. Ofocurse,Israel does not like any of this because its twin goals since the racist Zionists of the 19th century's dream of a Zionist state,has been land grab and ethnic cleansing.The many myths that they evolved have been exploded not only by world scholars but by the New Historians themselves.

1.It is israel that has not kept its agreements to date, starting with its most recent one the question of access and movement which it signed with the PA in Nov.2005.This is one of the 'demands' placed by the U.S. yesterday,but it is not new.Israel only increased its repression.Hamas is the demoracratically elected government of the Palestinian people.The elections were free and fair,so said international observers.What did Israel do (apart from the blockade)?It used the truce which Hamas honourably kept(during which time Israeli towns saw an unprecedented calm,so reporters said) to go into Gaza and kill one of their commanders.And then the kidnapping of Shalit,followed by Israel's disproportionate violence. And so on.Israel does not want peace.It wants excuses to stall. 2.Israel exists.This is a factual truth.But recognising its 'right' to exist is a moral question,and means that the Palestinians have to forget Israel's injustices.A RESISTANCE can never disarm before final agreement.

Fayyad is an indepent, as the article states. Hamas members of government are excluded by EU. Talks with non-Hamas government members is larger political strategy, also supported by US to weaken Hamas or make them realistic. Gaza and WB are not a country but a no-mans land in chaos and a people under occupation. Talk is not the same as collaborating. Merkel is doing a fine job in this, in what's the EU is best at: mediating.

The Jerusalem Post was called the Palestine Post before 1948. What's your point? The Palestinian cricket team that played against Egypt in the 1930s consisted of Jewish players only. So what's your point? The Arabs before 1948 objected to being refered to as Palestinians - they prefered being referred to as Syrians - so what's your point? You are a regurgitator of false information lacking even the most basic understanding of what you are saying.

members of an entity that refuses to accept the very conditions that your government, as part of the EU, set out for it to meet. The Hamas government has still not recognize Israel's right to exist, nor has it ceased all acts of terror against Israelis, and most importantly, explicitely it has not been willing to adhere to all negotiated agreements between Israel and the Palestinians. Would you, my dear foreign minister, deal with a country that refuses to adhere to agreements? Indeed, would you deal with any individual that would take such a stand regarding signed agreements? Shame, shame on you!

it is much more less expensive for Merkel to upset palestinians than zionists. palesinians cannot let her pay for her misconduct with them, but zionist can. so why the hustle?

AFter four attempts all you come up with is the same unfiltered propaganda you've either memorized or copy from other sources. The Occupation is a direct result of Arab stupidity in 1967 and since. Talk to Egypt and Jordan about "Palestinians". This Occupation you hate so much would be over in a heartbeat if the Palestinian leadership had the slightest interest in peace. Even today your hero Meshaal speaking as he always does from the safety of Damasus said no to the confidence-building measures suggested by the US yesterday. Yes, I am an admirer of Israel's achievements and it's people. I am an admirer of Sari Nusseibeh and of Ziyyad Abu Zayyad and of other intelligent Palestinian leaders who want their people to have a chance. You're an admirer of hate and of murder and of racism and of anti-Zionism without even knowing what Zionism is and I'm now going to thank GZ from NYC and follow his/her advice and leave you and your boring, repetitive, propaganda regurgitations alone.

That says it all ! Your supposed impartiality re: the people of Palestine and Israel is a hoax.Anyone who condones the Occupation is a mouthpiece for Israeli propaganda.

How about arrogant force used by Swiss Army who fired surface-surface missiles and invaded Lichtenstein ,a country who doesn't even have Army?

,in order to humiliate the conquerred people. Pals donø't have any history,besides usurping the name they can't point to a single historical fact of their "history",most of them arriving there from Egypt,Syria and Lebanon AFTER the Zionist immigration at the beginning 20-th cntury made the land inhabitable(draining swamps amongst others)

Abbas should resign and dissolve the Palestinian Authority and let the occupation authorities deal with the mess. The only outcome could be a binational state, because the apartheid system Israel has made would fall as it fell in South Africa.

You can dress it up and try to make it look presentable, but it is so obvious that Hamas is in control, and that they are one filthy animal. Get rid of Abbas, stop the illusion, and lets confront Hamas. The sooner the better, and we can put all this mess behind us.

"And I know that attempts at reason with blind haters end up sadly, being useless." Which I agree with 100% and why its useless even responding to LAKSHMI who only seems to be able to parrot the same lies over and over as if hoping that if they are posted enough times they'll suddenly become true. LAKSHMI .. change the record, its boring already.

Wrong again. I'm not a Christian Zionist, I am an admirer of Israel and its achievements. I am an opponent of idealogues who spew other peoples ideas (as you do); I am a supporter of the people in Israel and in Palestine who want their lives to be simpler and better and I am a person who learned long ago that the thinnest pancake has two sides. And I know that attempts at reason with blind haters end up sadly, being useless.

bought into the official Israeli propaganda.If the former, well that explains your ignorance of either Jewish or Christian history.If the latter you are still an ignoramus who has not read anything other than the AIPAC stories that still circulate in the U.S. Considering the heinous crimes that the Zionists have committed and continue to commit against the Palestinians,it is not surprising that they say anything at all.

newspaper Filistin ?

since time immemorial.It is the Zionist myth that it is new.When the Zionists started their plans in the late 19th century to establish a Zionist state,they wanted land and they wanted to ethnically cleanse the indigenous population which was the Palestinians living in historic Palestine.Muslims and Christian Arabs were the dominant majority,with a small population of jews,who,incidentlally were not happy with the advent of the Zionists.The Balfour D.(1917) gave the Zionists a foothold.The rest is history. You are quite mistaken about the international community.Proof, the U.S. is quietly getting ready to drop Israel.The EU has already changed its position.The Arabs are getting their act together.The U.N.General Assembly has been considering expulsion of Israel from U.N. just as was done with apartheid South Africa with a simple majority vote,bypassing the SC.Divestments,disinvestiment,boycott.You call that support for Israel ? Re: killing of jews what about Israel's crimes?Legion.

I hoped I'd get you angry enough to see if you had anything to say that wasn't taken from the anti-Jew, anti-Israel official handbook for people with no ideas of their own. Sadly, all you manage is to make an (incorrect) assumption that Israel is my little "florida" or some hateful thing that only a person with your narrow vision could conjure up. Calling you names is meaningless. Calling your empty arguments into question is something terribly easy. You're a hater. You even try it on me by suggesting a snivelling little American Jew/ (which I am not) Israel special relationship. I simply believe that, despite their strength, the Jews are the threatened party. Just yesterday one of your Hamas heroes called for the death of all Jews. If you think he's got it right, maybe we should all be calling you names.

know that Israel exists.But they will never recognise Israel's 'right' to exist.The former is an empirical reality.The latter is a moral question. They cannot and will not and should not accept Israel's 'right' to exist because that is saying that everything did in the past is okay and it is business as usual.

What is an Itzi ? Is it from the song "she wore an itzi bitzi yellow dot bikini" ?

Today someone in his post to you mentioned that the galah population is growing, sure happy to hear you are not becoming extinct johnboy

are not even an Israeli but someone living in a Western democracy and wanting a little home away from home.You are all mostly West European or North American in your orientation and your claims of being 'Jewish' is as phoney as a 3 dollar bill. Re: the glory days of Israel's policemen in the Occupied Territories they are over.There is a sensible and damned good set of people running the Unity Government.That's what bothers you. You can call them all the names you want,but if you want to save your little Florida of the ME. get real and ask your buddies to come to the negotiating table.Above all, listen to your Big Brother who no longer needs this 800 lb albatross round his neck.

The only way out of it, is for Palestinians to CLEARLY accept a Jewish state.

Even pals themselves don't pretend they have anything in common with the "People of the Sea",Philistines.

I don't recollect suggesting the Arabs have no claim. There is uninterrupted Jewish life on the land throughout the history you have listed and the "Palestinian" claim is, as you well know, exceedingly new. Quite contrary to what you seem to firmly believe, I would suggest that world behavior currently suggests that people are much more fed up with Palestinian violence, terror and their continuing wish to murder jewish babies and grandmothers as a way to attain their "rights" than they are with Israel.It's easy to say "this is the 21st century and the world is fed up with Israel".I'm quite sure that Sara is, but the family of nations is taking quite a different tack at the moment and even has gone as far as what some call an embargo on basic aid and will not lift it until the PA government acts to recognize the most basic elements of permission for other humans' existence. Yet, even that it can't seem to do. I'm with the rest of the world Sara and right now they are with Israel.

Poor Lakshmi. You so want your Palestinian heroes to be worthy of your doctrinaire subservience, you therefore can't recognize them for what they are: LIars and thieves who've stolen their own people blind. You fool, do you even know what a Bantustan is? These stupid words are convenient to your ignorance and your inability to furnish a valid, factual argument but they are meaningless invective. Abbas and Arafat have both joined the long line of losers who have done nothing to help their people and everything to keep them poor and get more of them killed in this futile, ill-advised and unbelievably sad strategy that says "kill Jews and we'll get what we want". How much more proof do you need that it does not work. Help your heroes with common sense!!! They need some.

controversial.The Philistines are mentioned in the Old Testament along with the Hebrews and Cananites.There is some speculation that the Hebrews may have come originally from west of the Nile.They established a kingdom in historic Palestine around 1000 B.C. and they went into captivity at least twice.After their conclusive defeat in the 2nd century A.D. at the hands of the Romans they dispersed.The land of the Philistines was renamed Palestina by the Romans.They as well many other tribes converted to Islam.Islamic dominance began in the 7th century A.D.The Dome of the Rock in 688 and then a thousand years or so of Islamic dominance.The Zionist project began in the late 19th century and the rest is history.The Palestinians have always stayed with the Land and this is why they will never give it up.Like it or not there is no alternative for Israel except to compromise and give up their dream of a Greater Israel.This is the 21st century and the world is fed up with Israel.

forgotten that the entire enterprise of establishing a settler colony in historic Palestine was accomplished by murder and mayhem.The twin goals of the Zionists were acquiring land and ethnic cleansing.And this was all long before the events of World War II. Fast forward to the last decade.What happened after Arafat refused to sign the infamous Camp David Accords which would legalise the bantustans in which the Palestinians were living ? More settlements were built after Oslo and CD. and more checkpoints and the infamous Wall.Gaza an open air prison and the daily violence perpetrated by Israel in the West Bank. Did you really expect a noble and heroic people like the Palestinians to put up with this ? You're talking about a fight to the finish,expecting to win ? Will you ? Instead of such bloodthirsty scenarios why don't you persuade your fellow Israelis to come to the table and start the process of negotiating the Arab Peace Initiative ?

seem to be pragmatists who will do a good job of running the place.They kept the truce after they were elected last year.Commentators observed that Israeli towns had not experienced such quiet in a long time.But ofcourse, Israel used the truce to go in to Gaza and kill one of their commanders after which Shalit was captured and Israel went in and used disproportionate violence. Israel wants to keep stirring the pot so that it can avoid coming to the table. But it seems that times have changed and Big Brother,mired in Iraq and desperate for Arab help in this matter are asking Junior to honour the agreement it signed in Decembe 2005 to allow the Palestinians freedom of movement.

a settler colony that should not have been imposed on the Palestinians in the first place.Thanks to British connivance the Zionists were able to get a foothold in historic Palestine.And subsequently supported by the imperialist power the U.S.And now they are there having caused turmoil in the entire region.The Western financial blockade is a heinous crime. The only way out of this situation is for Israel to withdraw to the 1948 boundaries and quit stalling,quit building more settlements and quit the oppression of the Palestinians.

"A 19th century mind encased in an 18th century skull attempting to fit into a 21st century world." This is real neat coming from a Palestinian (supporter). What exactly does it mean Johnboy? Or are you simply projecting again. Take a long hard look at Palestinian/Arab achievements over the past 500 years and compare them with Israel's over thepast6 60 years, and then come back to tell us who is in which century. There are numerous kinds of nitwits, and you are certainly one of them.

Who cares if Abbas resigns or not? One dysfuntional Palestinian is the same as the next.

The Palestinians should dissolve the Palestinian authority and withdraw from all agreement with Israel. Let the Israeli occupation army administer all of Occupied Palestine. The Palestinian Authority made it cheaper and easier for Israel to control the West Bank and Gaza.

Will you please give it up. You're making me sick..you're over your BS quota for the day.

It's amazing how many of you pro pal,leftist idiots come out of Australia. You maggots seem to thrive down under for some reason.

I'm not quite sure whether you mean having the Pal factions fight it out,or have the Israelis/Pals fight it out. Either way is fine with me,but I would sooner see the Pals fight it out down to the last man standing and see if maybe then he would be interested in some peace.

But only if the electorate is given a clear choice to accept the three conditions: end terrorism, recognise Israel and implement previous agreements. It's the only thing that will do any good.

IS that so hard to recognize ISrael ? Does it take so much guts to admit it ? You will be relieved afterwards...UP to you guys...!!! YOur fate is in your hands..in the end !!! Recognize ISrael...that's IT !

The lack of peace between the Palestinians and the Jews is not because of Gaza and the West Bank. It's because the Palestinians and Arabs don't want ANY Jewish state in the mideast. If you want to play propoganda games, Western leaders are buying it as evidenced by the financial boycott on the Palestinians.

There are few guarantees in life. However, one is that there will never be an Israel and Palestine living side by side in peace. Only delusional Jewish leftists believe that. Abbas, Hamas, Fatah and everyone else knows it. That's why they will never abandon their so called "right of return". They plan to weaken Israel as much as possible through concessions and than pull out their "right of return". Every single Israeli concession has produced more terror and rockets. ISRAEL WAKE UP!

early years,until the first intifada, after which they became the civilian arm of the military occupation.Corruption increased.But to Arafat's eternal credit he refused to sign the duplicitous Clinton-Baraak deal which would have turned the de facto bantustans to legal ones . . . And now the inept Abbas. Complaints about the money ? Well, the embargo has made life even more intolerable for the Palestinians.That seems to be lifting. I have an open ended question: since the dissolving of the PA. may be one of the options,so Haniyeh said recently,who do you think should take over ?

Let them put in Haniyeh who is running the show anyway!

Unfortunately, the only alternative is facist Hamas.

Israel has never left the West Bank and it controls air space,exit points and port in Gaza,which is an open air prison. Let Israel withdraw.In fact, that is the central problem,the continuing Occupation.

Egypt used whatever pride they could take from the 1973 war to make peace with Israel. In the same manner, the Arabs should use whatever pride they can take from the Lebanese- Hezbollah war to make peace with Israel.What's the alternative? How many more wars do Arabs want to fight? The Jews don't want to fight the Arabs. They want to live with them in peace.

You prove, day in , day out that you're clueless as to the meaning of Zionism but you spew your cutesy, small-minded epithets anyway. Beyond the occasional laugh you provide; it's boring and it's racist. The conflict is complex. The Jews have a prior and longer claim to the land and are willing to compromise. The Arabs have a lesser but still important claim to the land but keep insisting it also be Jewless. You might think that's a neat thing, Johnboy but the Jews and most of the rest of us don't.

"May they get even stronger, because the only thing those arrogant Itzis understand is force." And the same can be said about you Swiss ... may your new Muslim population get larger and stronger and may Sharia law and Muslim demands grow as they are all over the western world. Lets see how long it takes before you Swiss Leftie apologists are inconvenienced and then we'll see how fast you Swiss and Europeans elect right wing politicians to reverse the "problem" ... as they will do in France in a few days.

do you really think that world will move a finger if we decide to kill all pal animals? surprise, it will be accusing us of human rights violations of coursr but nothing more. all hate pals by now.

You write like you think - like Westerners. To Westerners, might does not make right. However, not so in the Middle East. El Birawi has it right - 40 years of racketeering. Try thinking like the Arabs.

Of course I expected the typical Leftie response to my previous post. The usual severe case of acute denial. OK as usual I shall post what the PUBLIC POSITION of the Palestinian leadership is and JohnBoy ... will of course CHANGE THE SUBJECT. Read Johnny and tell what part of this you can't understand. Article 13 States : "Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement." Is the above written by this "typical Zionist" as you describe me? Perhaps its time you look into your definition of Zionist and while your at it, look into who wants a peaceful solution and who wants "ethnic cleansing" ... I suggest you have it backwards my friend.

Much as all you pro-Palestinian anti-Israel bleaters will deny it, it would be earth-shaking if, just once, Mr. Abbas applied the same intensity to stopping the internecine madness that daily harms Palestinian life as he does to the threats he makes to the world community about "if you don't do what I want I'll resign" (yet again). It's time for a Palestinian leader to break the 60 year chain of abject failure brought on by refusal and replace it with the hope that can come with intelligent compromise. It's hard to do that while Hamas is screaming in the PA parliament that every living Jew should be killed, butit has to be done.Otherwise his legacy will be no different than Arafat; the great freedom fighter who brought no freedom; only pain (and lots of money for himself while his people starved). Shame on anyone who thinks this leadership deserves removal of the embrago.That will happen when they stop terrorizing others to achieve what they think they are owed.

May they get even stronger, because the only thing those arrogant Itzis understand is force.

Coz you're talking - at the very best - ethnic cleansing, aren't you? "Let the chips fall where they may, let the Leftists shut up and stay out of it and let the two sides fight it out." And whatever makes you think that it will simply stay a matter between "the two sides", especially when one side is a massive military machine and the other is not? Ever considered that the rest of the world simply *won't* sit back as watch such a fight to the finish? Typical zionist nitwit; it's all about metal and gunpowder, isn't it? A 19th century mind encased in an 18th century skull attempting to fit into a 21st century world. You Have No Idea. You're Olmert in disguise, by any chance?

I think the West is beginning to understand that the "occupation" is to the Palestinians not only the West Bank but all of Israel. Until now the West understood the "occupation" to mean just the West Bank as Palestinian propoganda tried to convey for political purposes.

When I saw the headline I thought that he was threatening Hamas with his resignation if they don't accept the Quartets demands. Of course not! That would be 'normal', he's threatening the quartet :-) He's completlely useless and should make way for Dachlan in any case.

how many times has he lied in the past?? my guess this is just another lie.

at least tens of times. But should he resigns, well, he'll resign. The PA is government by the group of master terrorists for whom Abbas is but a substitute for a fig leaf. He is the front man for the gang that refuses to adhere to the three international demands: Accept Israel's right to exist, adhere to signed agreements, and cease all acts of violence and terror. If this PA can not manage to meet these demands, what can it manage to do other than carry out acts of terror? And if this is all that it can manage to do, Abbas may be in Ramallah or the south pole, it would make no difference to the reality on the ground.

Might as well get down to the reality of the situation sooner rather then later. The Palestinians are led by a terror gang that can't even keep the guns out of the other terror gangs like Al Aqsa and Islamic Jihad. The entire situation is hopeless unless someone disarms these masked thugs. They will sabotage any progress towards peace so what's the point. The only solution I'm afraid is a full scale war to the finish so we finally after almost 6 decades arrive at a place where there is a clear winner and loser. Let the chips fall where they may, let the Leftists shut up and stay out of it and let the two sides fight it out. Hamas and the other swaggering thugs think they can prevail, well let it rip and lets finally see

Mr. Abbas and his entire PA government should resign give the keys to Condy Rice and Olmert, not because of continuing blockade on PA but continued Israeli Occupation. Never undersstand why the Palestinians make the issue one of money, but not an end of the Israeli Occupation. We are in this mess because of ill planned, ill managed and poorly run PLO that proved over the last 40 years it is nothing more than a racketeering organization and not a liberation organization. Arafat Oslo but a testimony of such failures.

He thought that the Arabs are so clever and everyone in the West so stupid that he could get the money without having to accept the Jewish state. He and Haniyah are getting the reception they deserve.

I think its the right thing to do if or if not the sanctions continue. Abbas is the worst thing happened to the Pals.

without him

it will be more of a threat if hamas takes control, and then a promise by hamas to attack even harder.

will quit.matter of fact who cares if he quits or not,all they have to do is honor past agreements,recognize israel and stop terror,but thats just to much for them.now they want the americans to pay them because their arrogant arab pride won't let them meet our demands.i say,wallow in your filth and enjoy your misery,you have only yourselves to blame for it!

Is that a threat or a promise?