Foreign Ministry sources: Lieberman wants to maintain Israel-Turkey tensions

You make a good point. To folIow your logic, Israel and Turkey shouldn't be so seriously estranged because there is more parallelism between the two countries than most Jews acknowledge. There are 64.7 million Turks persecuting 15.18 million Kurds. Israel can compete with that: there are 5.3 million Israelis persecuting 3.8 million Palestinians in the West Bank, Jerusalem and Gaza. A good deal of moral equivalency between the two countries, wouldn't you agree? More Jews should recognize that.

The issue is not about 5 million natives who happen to be Jewish (after they were brought in by force). The issue is that the existence of Israel itself violates the rights of millions of natives who are not born Jewish. What Hamas is asking for is not illegitimate, crazy or illogical. It is the position of millions of Arabs (not their non-representative governments that have been coerced to take positions that are not supported by a majority of their citizens). Arabs simply wish that the natives be given back their lands. You don't think this is a legitimate demand, we think it is. You think that, under circumstances that you pick on your own choosing, land theft is justified and that the victims must go on with their lives and make room for other "more worthy people". The 2 state solution benefits the colonists, the oppressors, it does not do justice to their victims. It will not bring natural long lasting peace.

Turkey should re-consider its relationship with the apartheid state of the Middle East. Israel is an oppressive theocracy that discriminate against natives born in the wrong religion. This colony that was forced on us by the use of violence and force will not last forever. Arabs are never going to give up on this.

A fervent Israeli supporter until the aftermath of the 1967 occupations became evident, I didn't need Palestinian propaganda to become an archenemy of Israeli propaganda and its human rights violations, and harsh and humiliating occupation of Palestinian territory. I pointed out 3 false Israel propaganda claims why US benefits from relations with Israel. 1. Only democracy in ME. A lie. So are Turkey and Lebanon. 2.Military bulwark in ME. Lie. Israeli participation would have destroyed coalition in Gulf war. You say, "so what?" Any equipment they supplied could have come from any sophisticated military force. "Hav Naps" were not used because of politics of using Israeli jointly designed weapon (with Boeing) against Arab nation. You're right. "So What?" We don't need them in any case. 3.In front line of war on terror. Lie. You agree. In recent 4-day period, Saudi Arabia killed 15 Al Qaeda members and they have over 200 in prison. How many Al Qaeda members has Israel killed or imprisoned?

Israel has always has world critics, you contend that it is at a unprecedented level. In the U.S. support for Israel seems to have remained constant. The propaganda machine for the Palestinians pushed into high gear in the mid 80's and has been highly effective. It has worked well on you. But to important points. 1) What other Democracy is in the ME? 2) In the Gulf War Israel was "asked"(and complied) to stay out...by the U.S. because it would have destroyed the coalition. So what? They still supplied many items (i.e. "Have Nap" air launched missile from B-52's, Israeli Pioneer pilotless drones for reconnaissance in the Gulf, Mind Plows, Night vision goggles, Mobile bridges etc.) 3)Now you state other countries...you name four.. are currently supplying more intel than Israel. About time! Wouldn't you say? Since the terrorists come from the very countries you name. Money for Israel. The military builds stuff here in the U.S. and it goes to Israel, Ron it's called jobs.

# 12o Ron, "Don't teach my children." You don't know what they're missing !

You are so right. Why does Israel need Turkey? Turkey, a NATO member, an associate member and candidate member of the EU, member of the Council of Europe, founding member of the OECD, member of the OSCE and a member of the European bloc of UN voters, is a great enemy to have. But Israel must hope that Turkey, and the rapidly growing list of nations who are tired of Israel's violations of international law doesn't say the same thing about Israel, "who needs them?" There are already an unprecedented number of campaigns for boycotts, divestment and sanctions against Israel. Israel doesnt need one more enemy. Israel can only say, "who needs them," so many times before it finds itself isolated in the international community. I am sure Israel would rather continue to try to starve 1.5 million Gazans than have another friend in the international forum.

Israel is a serious liability for the US, and few Americans realize it. The US has protected Israel for 60 years: in the UN with vetoes, guaranteed international loans and aid, last year, $3 billion. Since 1948, total cost to US is over $3 trillion. The US has sacrificed its own national interests in the ME for Israel's. And Muslim radicals attack us because of it. It's been a bad investment. US receives little from its unnatural relationship with Israel. Israel says US benefits because: (1) Israel is the only democracy in Middle East. False (2) Israel is military bulwark for US in ME. Irrelevant. In the Gulf War, Israeli participation would have destroyed the coalition. (3) Israel leads in the war on terrorism. False The best US allies on war against Al Qaeda and the Taliban are Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, Kuwait and the Gulf States. Israel plays no role in that war: Hamas and Hezbollah don't attack the US. And the Arab states don't run espionage operations against the US.

1. PKK Terrorists unlike Hamas, donot hide in populated areas. Howver many innocent Turkish citizens have been arrested and tortured bythe policesome even died in detention under questinable circumstances. I know one person in 1970ies in Izmir. 2. There was nevber a state of Kurdistan just like there was never a state called Palestine in history. 3. Turks came from Central Asia and took Anatolia from the Greeks. Are you planning to go back to Uygur land? 4. Today there are 5 million Jews in the ME most born there and know Israel as their origin. Ther are also Arab neighbors who deserve a decent life. The solution is to create 2 states side by side. First step is for both to start respecting each other. Most Israelis do but I am not sure about the Hamas.

1. I am a New Yorker and work downtown at maiden Lane. I saw all the mayhem on 9/11 from my window. 2. If 9/11 never happened US would never invade Afganistan. 3. natallie is far at LA but you are not that far at Boston. Come down one of these week-ends and visit one of the fire stations down town and tell them that Osama is right, don't be afraid since you are so sure that all Americans think like you, but be prepared for a huge dispointment. Or just forget about all of these and tonight go and see SHEAR MADNESS. It will make you laugh and maybe help you come to your senses.

Diplomatic moves must have an agenda that goes far beyond daily politics. Erdogan and Lieberman will leave their seats someday, but the people will stay forever. SOOO, here is my take "what the ..... man".

your appreciation of the meaning of words appears to be lacking ? try looking at the usa s record apart from the mid east !!

No one needs that after meeting Lieberman. He's not addictive at all. Just the opposite, so I can't imagine the Turks tearing their hair and gnashing their teeth at this. The stupidity is that we're very short on friends and allies these days - Turkey is very essential to us in many more ways than just being ugly Israeli tourists in their country and we can't forever coast on helping them out after the earthquake. As with all those who we invite to get chummy with us like the ancient quote: "Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad", so Turkey offered to help us and now we've made them mad at us. Perhaps we only ever want to destroy the friendships and alliances we make. With Lieberman we certainly succeeded.

Natalie, you are correct and absolutely right to say that Israel is financial, political and moral burden for US, being a taxpayer I can confirm this. Osama is absolutely correct in this regard which is universally accepted and confessed by majority of US population. This is the main reason US fighting unwinnable wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq. I am sure you will be greeted in NY if you say this there openly on footpath even. David probably never been out in NY and closed himself in israel where more right wing fundamentalist jews live and thinks this is the all of this world.

Should Israel smile every time someone unjustifiably criticizes it?

Well you`re lucky there are no civilians living near PKK camps on Kandil Mountains, but Hamas deliberatly fires from within civilian areas to make a public show to world when Israel responses and civilians get killed...Well you should be worrying about daily lynching around and expulsion of Gypsies in Turkey

always a thug!

During the meeting, Turkey's ambassador was seated in a low sofa, and facing him, in higher chairs, were Ayalon and two other officials - an arrangement carried out at Lieberman's orders. A photo-op was held at the start of the meeting, during which Ayalon told the photographers in Hebrew: "Pay attention that he is sitting in a lower chair and we are in the higher ones, that there is only an Israeli flag on the table and that we are not smiling."

Anyone and everyone who has Israel's welfare in mind is trying to EASE TENSIONS... Only Lieberman wants to MAINTAIN TENSIONS, not only with Turkey... European nations are merely keeping diplomatically shtum about someone who has been let loose against almost the whole world...

Minister Lieberman is going cold turkey? No way! He will have a rapid right-wing monkey on his back to the end of days

You are right , you must actually live in Tel Aviv and have whisky and dance Foxtrot to say what you did.

Really, why do you want Liberman to work so hard?? He might overwork himself to achieve that goal.

Given Israel's aggressive, land grabbing arguably murderous, behaviour especially in the last ten years, it must be difficult for many countries' politicians to justify to their people having friendly relations with it. If Israel then invites or encourages friendly countries to not be, that surely will be an easy option for them to take. Rather bizarre behaviour from Lieberman. What can his plan be?

#84: Lies. Turkey stole Kurdish land. The Kurds were promised a State in 1919. It's also time you admitted the Armenian genocide.

It'll only show him first hand what little threat is posed by Qassam rockets. That's our little secret, so let's keep it that way.

Leibermann isnt even taken seriously in the US. Thats why Netanyahu always sends Barak to meet with US officials. Turkey welcomed moderates like Ben Eleizer (to the dismay of Leibermann), and soon Barak to Turkey with full hospitality and sincerity. They wont put them on low chairs and humiliate them because the Turkish officials wont go that low.Countries can have disputes, they can be mended. These are just normal things. But Fanatical right wingers like leibermann will try to spoil things. Like I said, noone takes him seriously.Barak is both Defense and Foreign minister.

Pls tell me how many innocent civilians were killed, paralyzed, homeless, blockaded,traumatized, humiliated in the Turksih war on Terrorism? There is absolutely no comparison whatsoever.Hamas are terrosists yes but they are driven to that by Israeli brutality and occupation but still if Israel is to attack, their target should be only HAMAS.The PKK on the otherhand are terrorists who are fighting for an independant land that historically was never theirs, there was never an independant KURDISTYAN where turks came in and took away. It is not OCCUPIED territory and there are no UN resolutions.Kurd civilians are NOT pounded with F-16s and other WMD's.The PKK hideoouts are however.

are just the Hoi Polloi of the world...of the same makeup and background as the gangster who murdered the guard at the Holocaust museum. As far as Edrogan is concerned, he is another Hamasnic with the mindset of a psychopath. Arm the PKK and give them missles to fire at Turkey and see if his generals will roll over and play dead in a similar manner that he wants Israel to do.

I think that Israelis need to open their eyes and make a choice. The Turks have never liked you nor will they ever like you. You should dump those fake allies. It's about time you start caring about other oppressed people like Kurds. Arm them. Support their independence struggle. If they succeed, you will get a genuine ally in the region who will truly love you. Also, don't u see your so called friendship with the Turks has made you to ignore the Armenian genocide... don't u see how this is hurting your reputation? Wake up!

Religious Fundamentalists, be they Christian, Islamic or Haredi, are people who have an inability to live in the present which compels them to inflict their vision of the past upon all of us. The answer is not opposite ignorance or one of them would eventually prevail. The answer is what humanity has learned over the thousands of years of history. That is our strength against them. That is what we have to use. The 'old testament' God of vengeance, murder and conquest is not the benevolent and compassionate God of Sufi Islam, nor the god of later Judaism, it is not the Christian God who gave his son so that men might live. Fundamentalists worship a sadistic, monstrous and inhumane God which demands blood sacrifice of non-believers (of all faiths). Fundamentalists worship a God created by them in their own image. Unlike the rest of us, humans, with human foibles and human decency, created in the image of God.

Or is religious bigotry the problem? I see no difference between the world that Islamic fundamentalists wish to force upon us and the one that Christian or Jewish fundamentalists wish to force upon us. All wish to return to a past which never existed and force the entire world to comply.

It is still useful. Just ask for it at your deli.

Turkey is occupying Kurdistan and persecuting 20 million Kurds.

All he has to do is allow Erdogan to continue opening his mouth, while Turkish TV continues to broadcast its Israel-hate. Can Barak (and Ben-Eliezer) define how much sucking up is too much sucking up? At what point is "enough is enough?" Will Holocaust-denial be the line in the sand, or is this too okay as long as Israel's air force still is allowed to train in Turkish airspace from time to time?

is what we have to care about, everything else is history. Recent history matters more than old history, with the exception of Jewish claims in the holy land, a collection of villages amongst others

Why the hell dont you get rid of liberman he is the most dengerous element one can think of, most of the others one can overcome but not this one. he is to my opinion more dangerous than hamas, iran and just name it.... GET RID OF HIM NO MATTER HOW BU PLEASE FOR HEAVENS SAKE DO IT

Turkish "new" politics are aiming to turn it into a radical-religious, bigot country . So far, they have done it perfectly well. Such a messy regime should be kept away as much as possible and relations lowered to the minimum.

Israel has received over $120B over the years from America - is there a single benefit the US taxpayers have received from giving away all that money?

Your Marxist fixation with economic determinism misses the point. It?s not about decades of Western exploitation. If you do not understand what is in front of you, how can you deal with it?

Mr. Lieberman seems to think the job of Israel's Foreign Minister is to alienate, insult and annoy as many nations and people as is possible. He also seems to think the important thing is gaining headlines in Israel for himself even if it means alienating, insulting and annoying the world. The thing he never seems to be concerned about is maintaining proper diplomatic relations with other nations and seeking to promote good will towards Israel amongst the world's nations and peoples. Were I one who wished the worst for Israel I would be most amused with Mr. Lieberman. I would be delighted every time he opened his mouth - which is to say every time he did harm to Israel. I find Mr. Lieberman's behavior destructive of Israel and appalling to watch. There are those who like his style and will no doubt conclude anyone who is appalled by Lieberman must be an anti-Semite and determined to destroy Israel. Rather it is Lieberman who is God's Gift to anti-Semite.

Turkey is just echoing world opinion. The world is turning against Israel not because people there are Jews, but because of how Israel acts. Bin Laden did not attack the US because of its religions or "way of life,' but because of the US's ACTIONS. Israel knows what it has to do to bring peace and stability to the ME, but judging by the attitudes of Israeli respondents, it is not going to happen. Israel thence becomes more and more isolated, and it is not because it is a "Jewish" state!

Jihadists hate Israel and blow up airplanes. In conflating these facts to portray Israel as the sole reason for Islamist terrorism, Chris conveniently overlooks some other facts: Jihadists are commanded by the Koran to kill the infidel. Jihadists hate Christians, Hindus, atheists, agnostics...not just Jews. Jihadists blow up their fellow Muslims in much higher numbers than they blow up non-Muslims. Jihadists blow up people who live in countries which have nothing to do with Israel. Jihadists seek to establish a global caliphate (on a piece of land ever so slightly larger than Israel). If Muslims succeeded in destroying Israel, jihadist terrorism against Westerners would INCREASE, not magically disappear as Chris would have us believe. Jihadists would realize that terrorism works and the West is weak. Weakness invites aggression. Nothing would have a more galvanizing effect on jihadists than Israel's demise. They consider that the FIRST STEP on the path to the caliphate.

Israel is the only middle eastern country with full democracy. It is an asset to US,not liability as some claim.Look at all the acheivements of US jews, starting from Einstein,Graham Bell,etc. Show me one turk that is not a liability,who has contributed to US. they are all in California on wellfare and food stamps,my tax monies paying for them.Thay are not allowed dual citizenship thanks allah, as all Turkey will be deserted to come here.

Ms Dursom 47. I strongly disagree with you. Turkey is a big liabilty to US, not Israel.They have been sucking dollars for years, for what?They denied US army entry during Iraq war. this increased the casualties, expenses and the best plan. Can't rely on Turkey.They denied Israel during recent NATO exercises.On the ethical front, they are genocide commiters and also DENIERS. Learn history madam, they have slothered the Greeks,kurds, armenians,bulgarians,Italians hungarians slovaks,all area Christians north, south and east of present day Turkey.Recent history,pogrom of Greeks and jews, 1955.Cypress unlawful occupation and massacres, 1974.Shall I teach you more history? Google Turkish genocides.Israel is the only true ally

Stupid, stupid, stupid. It doesn't make the slightest bit of difference what you, I, or Natalie think is justified. The only thing that matters is what THEY think is justified

According to the Koran, murder is the second worst sin. Non-belief of God is first. The penalty for murder is execution. When the Saudi government beheads a convicted murder, do you suspect there has been some complaint about a crime made by another Muslim? There are constant complaints by Muslims against radical Muslim terrorism. Why do you think Saudi Arabia revoked the citizenship of Osama bin Laden? Why do you think that in a recent 4-day period Saudi Arabia killed 18 members of Al Qaeda? Why do they have over 200 hundred of them in prison? Why is the Pakistan armed forces attacking Al Qaeda and the Taliban in West Pakistan? What does the Afghanistan army do for a living? What, again, is the difference between Islam and other religions?

Lieberman is right not to grovel to the Islamist-Jihadist government of Turkey.

If Israel is not interested in attacking any country, why is it upset about a defensive line of bombs placed a kilometer back from the border in Lebanon? They obviously are no threat if Israel plans to stay on its side of the border. Next time, try posting something plausible.

Early in the morning of April 9, 1948, commandos of the Irgun (headed by Menachem Begin) and the Stern Gang attacked Deir Yassin, a village with about 750 Palestinian residents.In all over 100 men, women, and children were systematically murdered.FOR WHAT?

The latest statements by the Islamist government of Turkey are overtly supportive of the anti-Israel Axis led by the Iranian Dictatorship with its nuclear program and its proxy terrorist organizations Hamas and Hizbulla. The Foreign Minister is absolutely right to oppose this visit which can only give a false impression of Israeli weakness and encourage Turkey to continue its anti-Israel policy. There can be no justification for the Defence Minister of Israel to pay a friendly visit to an "ally" while that "ally" is supporting the terrorists who are firing rockets at Israeli communities. Barak needs to focus on his job of defending the country and not interfere with foreign relations which are the job of the Foreign Minister, Lieberman.

Explain to me how your post is not a spin on the legitimacy of terrorism against the USA by Muslims extremists. Natalie, Chris, your points make no sense for reasons to stop supporting Israel, if we say that Democracy and strong ones will not tolerate threats and terrorism. More so your logic is so incredibly faulty that with it it is so easy to construe arguments that are equally false and morally reprehensible. For example one could easily construe an argument against Muslims Americans, Muslim immigration and movement of persons from Muslim states to the USA. This would be an incorrect argument but nevertheless your logic works perfect. We could say that the aforesaid persons are a liability to our Security. or we could say they are a liability to time, becuase of "their" actions we now must wait in line at airports so why not ban them from moving inside of or entering the USA? Why? because this logic misses the point, instead of attacking the issue it finds a scapegoat.

True is true ,why people escape from the facts

Although the talkbackers against Turkey crack me up - like him until he comments the gov of Israel. I find it funny that Erdogan can actual find the time to say anything about Israel when he has the Armenian and Kurdish tragedies on his plate. Such hypocrisy.

You have hit upon a brilliant idea. Break all relations with Turkey. Support Kurdish aspirations, give them aid, agitate among them to overthrow their masters, campaign internationally for their independence, and perhaps sign an oil deal, although there is no readily observable way for Israel to get oil out of any Kurdish lands. The Palestinians will support your efforts, because they are smart enough to know such actions will finish the job of completely of isolating Israel from the world community. Turkey, a NATO member, an associate member and candidate of the EU, member of the Council of Europe, founding member of the OECD, member of the OSCE and a member of the European bloc of UN voters, is a great enemy to have. When Israel begins to collapse, totally isolated by boycotts, divestments and sanctions, undoubtedly the Kurds will rush to the aid of Israel. The cry, "Long Live Lieberman," will replace "Allahu Akbar" among the Palestinians.

There was a stupid foreign minister who insisted to sabbatage Israle's relation with the world, there was a stupid priminister who though that his lies and deception will fool the world, there was a stupid society who let few irresponsible settleres to cause the death of the state. there was a state called israel. I am afraid, that someone would veen say that despite our magnificent propaganda machine, we could prevent another haulocaust. Shame on us. NY is a nice place to be in for the rest of my life.

I find it funny how none of you were complaining about Turkey or the PM until he criticised the govf. of Israel. If your going to stand up for whats right, stand up for whats right. Dont do it when it fits with your agenda. Be good all around.

Can anyone please enlighten me as to what Avigdor's role is supposed to be? Severing ties with all countries that are not cast-in-stone allies? Sabotaging the wishes of the majority of the government, to provide some polemic for the world's press? We Israelis love to triumph the fact that we are the only democracy in the Middle East, however the electoral system is severely hindering these claims. Lieberman's hounding of Netenyahu after the election resulted in a situation of blackmail. I simply cannot believe that this man is foreign minister, and the damage he is causing is just beginning.

I think israel has to understand that world is not same as before , they can not do whatever they want. Erdogan's speech is just a beginning..

the naievete of your post is breathtaking....USA is the heartbeat and powerbase of the christian west...so the no 1 infidel, the no 1 satan. No USA means no west europe, no israel, nothing to stop islamists realise their goal of a caliphate.

i got a call last week from an israeli contact who has met a num,ebr of prominant Turks recently. what they told him: an apologetic message from many respcted Turks saying Erdogan is viewd as playing a dangerouse game and he will be regreting it sooner than we think. all i can tell ypou that during the Bush or even Clintos's era he Erdogan would have not raised his head surley not deraing provoking its ally, israel. here is one more of Obama's fall out.

... but has been goaded into the declarations that he is making... ... we need not accept them, but we should acknowledge their origin... ... one cannot remain passive in any encounter with a Foreign Min such as ours, whose main tools are humiliation and offence...

What are the moral standarts of Turkey ? 1. The Armenian genocide of 1915 2. The oppression of the Kurdish people 3. The occupation of Cyprus

... that he is no longer just a parlour-joke... ... let's hope that Bibi is wise enough and strong enough to deal with this decisely...

Europeans, if Turkey gets in, feel free to come to Canada we have plenty of space, but we frown on 3 hour lunch breaks." Must be easy to join the club. BTW---Turkey is at least elegible for EU membership---Israel being an Arabian State is not and never will be. Cant see Israel lasting another 20 years the way it is behaving so it is all a moot point. A Bi National State is on the horizon--and on the approach.

Everyone will agree that each country has a right to protect itself. But, we have seem way to much of Israel's whining and double talk.They force the world to turn it's attention to a country that doesn't even have nukes.Meanwhile Israel's nukes ranks right up there. Why should Israelis whine and complain about nukes, when they are the only country in the ME to have nukes and banned weapons.Why do the world allow Israel to decieved them as much as they do. They talk about peace, then they continue to build settlements on stolen land. It is clear, if Israel's nukes are not addressed also,then the US and Britain should not be forcing Iran to come clean. Remember there are terrorists in Israel also,Iran is not the only country to have crazy people. Turkey good for you for speaking up.

It is rude to shout, Did you not know. BTW--The late great Robert Kennedy would never support the Israel of today. Takes a blind bigoted racist to do that---are you ???. Remember Bobby would never shout either???.

Erdogan is voicing what a lot of world leaders are too fearful of expressing. Sneer at him, call him anti-jew, anti-israel, anti-semite, whatever, but get this; there's a lot of truth in what he says. Now Leiberman wants to keep the pot boiling - so thin-skinned, can't take criticism.

Lieberman is right in approaching this issue. Turkey Islamist-Jihadist government led by Erdogan has become anti-Israel. You don't grovel to your enemy. You tell them to go to Hell. It is time for the loose canons to understand the menace that Islamist-Jihadism poses to the world. Simplistic solutions to complex problems will not work.

Why are Americans paying for more and more weapons for Israel when Israel is already the regional superpower, with far more weapons than any possible foe? Why are Americans providing "loan guarantees", which is another way of saying free money, to Israel when many Americans are without a home or a job?

The CIA recently estimated that Israel has over 32,000 nuclear warheads. Iran has stated time and again it peaceful nuclear program. What is peaceful about 32,000 bombs? Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan is absolutely correct. Why has only Iran been singled out?

israel, maldova and the solomon islands take on the world.

No one needs that after meeting Lieberman. He's not addictive at all. Just the opposite, so I can't imagine the Turks tearing their hair and gnashing their teeth at this. The stupidity is that we're very short on friends and allies these days - Turkey is very essential to us in many more ways than just being ugly Israeli tourists in their country and we can't forever coast on helping them out after the earthquake. As with all those who we invite to get chummy with us like the ancient quote: "Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad", so Turkey offered to help us and now we've made them mad at us. Perhaps we only ever want to destroy the friendships and alliances we make. With Lieberman we certainly succeeded.

I dare Durson to come down to Ground Zero and start a soap box there. I give her 5 minutes before someone gives her something she can bring home with her as a souvenir of her trip to NYC...

Dear brother, you wonder where the Turks have been. Well once upon a time they were with all of us, strong and unbeatable. The flagrant and shameless betrayel our forefathers showed them and the Ottoman Empire, made them careful with further arab-turkish cooperation.Our forefathers stabbed them in the back, repeatedly and in the most treacherous way.So we have to pay the price today.

because he is persona non grata around the world. barak would be subject to arrest in London but it seems Turkey will not subject him to arrest. Erdogan is correct of course when referring to Israel's intentions of aggression.

"...regarding a recent television drama depicting actors dressed as Shin Bet officers who kidnap babies..." Re this sentence, perhaps the Turks saw the famous IDF T-shirts depicting the attempted shooting of a pregnant Gaza woman, with the motto "Two for One" - and similar "funny" attire. David

It is perfect time to reciprocate. You need 2 to TANGO. Seems like erdogan forgot that Israel is not his little stupid puppet. Thank you Lieberman. Finally someone with balls who has some Pride to respond in kind.

read history better.

it is time to cut loose with the turkey send home all there turkeys back to turky country

Sirhan Sirhan was born in Jerusalem this is true but he was at that time a Christian. Eli would like to forget that and expect us to do so as well.

iran is a signatory, israel is not... case closed.

It seems that moslem extremism is going to get its day too. Previously moderate states around the world are speaking up on behalf of thugs and murderers complaining about equal rights and fairness. In Canada at least we had the encouraging fatwa issued by 10 moslem leaders against moslem extremism, the first I've ever heard about. People in the west want an end to the violence, although the west has been equiping it for years. Now the extremists will use every device to further their goals. But be aware of the backlash because when big brother stands up, I mean really stands up, no one will have freedom to work. The cull of the human herd is planned, and coming.

Hezbollah is at war with Israel. These Intel flights will continue. Whether in Lebanon ,Gaza or Syria. Since all are enemies. Israeli drones overfly Iran. So do the satellites. So what is your complaint.? Go and smell the roses in your garden. Good night.

The Conservative Party has declared that when they return to government they will support Israel 100%. The Labour government are putting measures into place that places punitive sanctions on Israel. If as reports suggest Israel undertakes Cast Lead II in the next 12 weeks before a General Election in the United Kingdom, British Politicians will be asked how they stand on Israel. Pictures of dead children like what we saw in Cast Lead I will drive the electorate towards whichever political party pledges to halt the killing. Then we will see whether blind support of Israel will be a vote winner or a vote loser.

Turkey annihilated their minorities.

What about the strong kurdish population in turkey, 25-30 milion withous no rights?

Of course Turkey is no position to lecture anyone on morality. But, we need to just come out and talk about the Armenian Genocide and the aggression against the Kurds. Someone should make movies on those subjects.

This turk is only trying to get the attention away of the by the turks occupied kurdish people. How can this turk demand a palastinian state while he is refusing to accept the kurdish state which is in history known long before even the romans occupied judea and israel!

support for Israel had never been mentioned until about a year ago. Probably to win support from libero-fascists and Arabists.

Erdogan said. "Gaza was bombed again yesterday. Why?... There were no rocket attacks" THIS VERY OF THIS NEWSPAPER HAS AN ARTICLE ABOUT 5 STRAIGHT DAYS OF ROCKET ATTACKS FROM GAZA! I GUESS ERDOGAN DOESN'T READ HAARETZ

preach morality while lying at every turn . He did not even know why Israel bombed yesterday . It is the same Muslim back warded terrorist mentality like the rest of them .

I spent a year and a half in Turkey, and yes, it's as backwards as you think. When everything comes down to it, yes they are an Islamic country with all the problems to the world that, that entails. The rest of the "West" had better be planning on how to fight the Islamic movement and do it quickly.

You wrote: American support of Israel is a liability. Osama Bin Laden himself said that American support of Israel was a major motivator in the 9/11 attacks. Basically what you are saying is USA shouyld listen to Osama Bin Laden. Plese come down to New York and visit down town rector street area nd say this to the Americans and lets see what kind of a reaction you will get from ordinary New Yorkers? This post uncovered your real face and I thak you for that. Not that we did not know it.

It is time to call an International Committee of Inquiry about the death of one million or so, civil Armenian, by turkish soldiers?

You obviously have a very short memory. IN 2006 Hizbollah launched katyushas into Israel in an unprovoked attack and kidnapped Israeli civilians. That was the reason for disallowing them under 1701. Whether they've fired them (yet) is immaterial. I'm shocked that you would only take the anti-Israel side. No, I'm not. Oh, and by the way, it's funny how you only criticize Israel over tv shows. It's just another example of your pathetic attempts to single Israel out. Did you give any outcry when Iran protested the production of The 300. Of course not. Since you don't want to mention anything else. I suggest that you don't. Better not to dig yourself a deeper hole.

American support of Israel is a liability. Osama Bin Laden himself said that American support of Israel was a major motivator in the 9/11 attacks. Israel has used American weapons to kill many hundreds of innocent civilians. America has supplied unlimited political support in the UN. Israel is still expanding outside its borders with no end in sight. America is still supporting this, financially, militarily, and politically. I suggest you give Bobby Kennedy a rest and focus on 21st century issues.

Natalie is totaly right. In addition to be a financial and political burden on the US, Israel is in direct conflict with US position on nuclear non prolification, Realtions with the entire muslim world, stability of oil prices etc...etc..etc... The only reasons the US remain Israel ally, is the strong Jewish influence ovet the US congress as well the the support there to Israel from the large chrstian right. It has nothing to do with any benefitsIsraelis claim they provide the US with.

Israel argues that the overflights are necessary, despite their being in violation of UN Resolution 1701 ...

Turkey was the great ally in 50s. after US begun to fear the potential and started constantly weaken it and manipulate the politics law and basicly everything... than in 80s with the fear of communism they provoked an other coup. fom then turkey is not the ally but just a puppet to US and they can do what ever they want with it. Erdogans being a puppet and placed and financed by US is no secret!

Erdogan was referring to an Israel Air Force strike Sunday on a rocket-launching ground in central Gaza, where three Islamic Jihad militants posing to fire at Israel were killed.

dont worry about erdogan. he's not a powerfull man he's just a puppet he's just there for the american interests in turkey. he's just against isr because his country is sensitive about pals and he's loosing the power. in turkey everyday there re provocations attacks to the peacefull demonstrators and the country is out of control he just need the opium to control them religion and anti isr and anti semitic speaches. but worry about the PM who will be there after him cuz after erdogan turkey will not be the same thats for sure. maybe in a good way but maybe and most possibly in a very very bad way. hope we find a good PM next elections...

Turkey, Sweden, Norway, the UK the French..and so on and so on... The Israeli electorate deserves and should do better thaqn that and time is an issue.

It was only because the IAF killed the three terrorists just before they fired their missiles that this Islamist liar is able to claim that "there was no rocket attack". If Turkey is going to continue to support Hamas terrorists Israel should think about starting to repay the compliment by helping the PKK. Maybe a few missile attacks in Ankara will wipe the bloodthirsty smile off ErDOGan's ugly face.

Spending $1.5 billion on a two tier security fence to protect the Jewishness of Israel (Netanyahu's words not mie) suggests a decision by Israeli politicians to wall Israeli Jews into a ghetto.

He says something. You say something. What do you expect?

Although Terrorism cannot be justified under any circumstances. The fact is the West's continued support of Israel masakes us targets of radicalised young moslems who would do unspeakable things in the name of Islam to protect their 'muslim brothers' from Israeli aggression and the West's support of that aggression. Support for Israel by the west is getting it's citizens killed, and it's citizens are beginning to realise this. Blind support for Israel by western governments is no longer a vote winner it is a vote loser. Israel's isolation will only increase in the future.

since when has doing the right thing been a vote winner ? the level of yr reasoning does not set you aside from the herd.... the herd knows nothing, individual reasoning is a pretentious illusion of a minority of the herd (u fit into that category) ... but nothing of any value.

May be he will feel how Israel is feeling when Qassam are falling. May be we should ask him how he felt when Kurds has fired towards his country and how he reacted. This man has decided not to be friend to Israel, nothing else count..after all he is muslim.

"The announcement of Israel's PM to erect a fence at the Egyptian border is a further proof that Israel is isolating itself additionally." what crooked way you have to interprete simple facts! What else would you do to prevent illegal crossing/infiltration on a country's border?

Why Should this be examined? As it exposes your friends, it exposes who will stop supplying you oil in the 70's while buying weapons from the soviet. It exposes the flaw that you constantly over look. What right does any country have to attack the USA for its support of Israel, NONE. THERE IS NO JUSTFIED RIGHT FOR TERRORISM TO ATTACK THE USA AS A RESULT OF USA SUPPORTING ISRAEL. BUT AS YOU WANT TO DO, LET'S EXAMINE WHAT HAS HAPPENED, LETS EXAMINE THIS LIABILITY. BOBBY KENNEDY MURDERED BY A PALESTINIAN REFUGEE FOR HIS PROPOSED POLICY TOWARDS ISRAEL ARAB OIL EMBARGO AGAINST USA FOR SUPPORT OF ISRAEL, 73 SHALL I CONTINUE? NATALIE YOU SEEM TO BELIEVE THAT IT IS OK FOR PEOPLE, WHO DISAGREE WITH USA POLICY REGARDING ISRAEL, TO ATTACK USA, YOU TERM THIS AS THE LIABILITY ISRAEL HAS INCURRED ON THE USA, RATHER THAN LOOKING AT THE ISSUE, RATHER THAN CONDEMNING IT FOR WHAT IT IS, YOU JUSTFYING RATHER THAN CONDEMNING... TERRORISM LOVE 2 HEAR UR UNSPIN

did turkey have an empire up to the end of World War 1? did turkey murder 1 and a half million Armenian people? does turkey murder Kurdish people? I don't think any Turkish politician can teach anyone how to behave.

Of course it's Monday and the people need fed. Come back tomorrow and watch Erdogan do the Horah with Netanyahu.

does anyone really care what he says? like his buddy ahmedinejad, he just keeps puting his foot into his mouth. The notion that he proposes that urkey be a negotiator in talks with syria is such a farce...erdogan is decidedly going against the wishes of attaturk and most of present day turkey..only the fanatics like him...

You worry that Turkey is becoming less secular. Turkey is not, nor will it be in the future, as religiously based a state as Israel is presently.

1) He knows he has to start pandering to more radical interests because thats the direction things are going. 2) Many Israelis, as usual, will use his less valid statements as an excuse to ignore his more valid ones, 4) The world is running out of Muslim countries to radicalize. If Israel doesn't start conducting itself with a tiny bit of common sense (and less blatant hypocrisy) Muslims are going to more easily expand into other third world countries. then, in twenty years, there will be more Muslim countries to radicalize.

Last October Erdogan, in a motivational lecture at the start of the academic year at Yildiz Teknik University, mocked the Jews many times and ended saying: "You can see their serious contributions to knowledge, and with that knowledge, they print money from where they?re sitting.? He and Turkey will continue to insult Jews and do damage to Israel. We need to be careful!!

The Israeli officials must have plenty of free time to waste if they expect to change Turkish policies by explaining the justifiable Israeli policies.

Erdogan is only confirming the opinion of the world, that Israel is endangering the world peace. The permanet lies, the uniterrupted aggression against its neighbours, the incredible war crimes in Gaza and Lebanon and the war mongering against Iran are well known. It is difficult to believe that Srael wants peace. The announcement of Israel's PM to erect a fence at the Egyptian border is a further proof that Israel is isolating itself additionally.

I am tired of answering all the lies emanating from the mouth of the so called "enlightened Muslim Leader", may we should put Turkey on the Thanksgiving table

Turkey is and has been a more important ally to America than Israel has been. In fact, the American support of Israel has been a liability to American policies and a burden to American tax payers. Turkey has borders with Iran, Iraq, and Syria and hosts an important American air force base. America pays close attention to Turkeys attitude and concerns.

Perhaps supporting Israel is no longer a vote winner. Upsetting Turkey can't be a good thing for Israel, aren't you guys wanting to transport Turkish water to Israel?

During 2009 the Turkish military forces pounded the Kandil mountain and other mountains in the south east of Turkey as well as some in northern Iraq using F16s and tanks that were modernized and modified in Israel against Kurdish rebels who are armed only with Kalashnikov or AK47 guns and home made molotov koktails and some IEDs. Not to mention the Israeli made Heron's that were delivered early 2009 with Israeli staff to operate them until Turkish staff would be trained. Proportional force does not win a war. Only the superior wins.

If Israelis are not happy about content of Turkish TV programs Israel TV could just launch a TV series depicting Turkish genocide of Armenians and Kurds.

@Bruria: Have you ever heard a muslim complaining about crimes perpetrated by other muslims? That's the difference between the "religion of peace" (as European muslims call their religion) and other religions.

Erdogan P.M. Turkey. Israel. Remove all assets from Turkey. No military coordanation. No Tourism to that dangerous country. Yes, to good relations with Kurdistan & the Kurds. Israel should OPENLY come forward & support the Kurdish Aspirations. There are about 18 milliopn Kurds around Turkey,Syria, Iran & Irak. The world,Incl Israel should press for their Independence. They will be the balance between a stable M.E. Or a continuation of Iran-Hezbollah-Hamas trouble makers. Are people & nations blind ? Can't they see Iran & her proxies causing all the trouble in the Middle East ? And Kurdistan,also has Oil ! What do the Palestines have ? Some vague promise that they'll be able to have some or all of the 72 virgins ! But they must also take into account that after so much wear & tear not much is left ! Ah,What a pity ! No second chance !? NO !

What about the 25 milion kurds in turkey?

Is the Israeli government in favor of peace or not?" Erdogan said. "Gaza was bombed again yesterday. Why?... There were no rocket attacks." this is true but there where 3 mortars fired into israel thats 23 ( inc 3 rockets) this year alone.

Turkey's ending of friendship with Israel is a major turning point in the ME. It will, hopefully, galvanise the US to realising that their pet is now without any support in the region. Egypt's position is still ambiguous however, but we could see pressure from the street there undercutting Mubarak. The US will realise their interests are not being well served by Israel.

Middle East was peaceful prior to 1948

Secular turks are loosing power and islamic parties are on the rise in Turkey. We are witnessing fast islamization of Turkey. If and when religious forces in Turkey win, we'll see jihad coming out of formerly peacefull land. Erdogan is not the reason, he is logical consequence of religion taking over.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan made the usual false statements. "endangering world peace" If Israel disappeared tomorrow "world peace" would still be a problem. Remember most conflicts in the world today involve Islam. The Iraq/Iran war, the Iraq/Kuwaiti war, Pakistan/India over Kashmir, Warlords in Somalia, Turkish/Kurdish conflicts, Iran/Kurdish conflicts etc. all have nothing to do with Israel. "Those who are cautioning Iran must also caution Israel," Regarding nuke capabilities. Israel unlike Iran doesn't sponsor worldwide terrorism. Israel doesn't threaten to "wipe countries off the map". "There were no rocket attacks." At least 20 rockets were fired at Israel this week. And as the article states: " where three Islamic Jihad militants posing to fire at Israel were killed. Approximately four mortar shells were also fired from Gaza toward the western Negev on Sunday." What? Israel should wait till they launch the rockets or mortars first.

For the return of favors Iran will not support the Kurdish minority in its own territory in any guerilla action against Turkey. Additional benefit to Iran is that Turkish airspace will not be used by IAF in any military action by IDF against Iranian Nuclear facilities. Turkey is shortsighted. Israel can simply arm Kurds in Iraq for actions against Turkey. 40% of Turkey is inhabited by Kurds. Erdogan is foolish.

The Arab/muslim talking points never change. Instead of looking in the mirror and fixing their own problems, they blame Isarel and the west for all the world's ills. This is the very reason that these nations contribute ZERO to science, medicine, technology and humanity!

on many fronts. G*d help the Palestinians and Israel's other neighbours when desperation sets in, in an attempt to keep it all together.

The US plane.

"What is your excuse this time?" he asked. Same as the last , Stupid .. rockets fired from Gaza. Amazing how far Erdogan has set back Turkey Israel relations. Insead of providing leadership this jerk has set back relations for years if not decades. Turkey was the example of what a modern Islamic state could be, friend to Moslems, friend to Israel. But no, Erdogan turns out to be another member of the axis of evil. He has destroyed Turkeys reputation as a modern state, now it is just another vocally anti semtic Islamic country. If Israel delivers the drones to turkey Barak should be fired. Turkey is no better than Syria, Iran and now their new best friend, Lebanon/Hizbolah/Hamas; what a company.

Another shameless iranian surrogate.Israel may or not have nukes,but Israel never threatened to wype out another nation,though many deserve it...At the same time,the iranian mad dog is franticaly building his nukes ad delivery rockets and owling to the entire world to hear,that he wants to destroy Israel...Yeah.Those "basterd" Jews are doing it again...they are trying to defend themselves...

It seems that whenever there is an earthquake in Turkey, Israel sets up field hospitals to aid the injured and to help ameliorate the suffering that those turkeys experienced. Wow, it looks like all of that good will was for naught.

israel will have peace when it withdraws completely from the palestinian west bank and east jerusalem areas. israel cannot occupy peoples land and demand peace at the same time. that simply will not fly.

"Erdogan was referring to an Israel Air Force strike Sunday on a rocket-launching ground in central Gaza, where three Islamic Jihad militants posing to fire at Israel were killed." Notice - no rockets were fired and we only have the IDF's word for it that there was any threat at all. Since they were proven liars in Cast Lead, I certainly trust nothing they allege. Funnily enough, your suggestion of firing Kassams back at Gaza would be a lot more proportionate and a lot less damaging - albeit still a war-crime.

The virus of fundamentalist hatred claims another nation. Erdogan will lead his people off a cliff. And what sanctimony! Turkey's hands are stained with the blood of a million Armenians, a fact they don't even acknowledge. Who are they to moralize?

shows that he is in the hands of Iran,he uses propaganda (LIES) to please his guests. He blames Israel for the worlds problems,just like Hitler blamed the jews for Germany's economic problems. Maybe Israel does have a nuclear program,so does Britain,France and the United states,Russia France,are they threatening other countries? Turkey wants to enter the EU,I beleive they have no chance,their respect for Human rights is practically non existant and after this stupidity,the Europeans will never allow entry.

Dear Mr. Erdogan - Israel, for your information, is a democracy, and is not interested in attacking any country, or sweeping any country out the map. You would be far better off, siding with Israel in its search ofr ME stability, and stop attacking it. If you intend Turkey to be part of the civilized world, or part of Europe, you better behave. Or else.

we palestinians appreciate the words of support from turkey, but where has turkey been over the last 61 years? israel has been violating UN resolutions and international laws since 1948 and turkey was always silent. In fact, as far as I know, turkey still maintains 2 israeli air bases within its territory. how could this be?

regardless of the reasons. The fact is Israel is preparing the ground for another invasion of Lebanon. Whatever Hezbollah is alleged to have in Southern Lebanon as long as it is not fired at Israel then there is no problem. Same with bombs planted a kilometre from the border with Israel. Israel complains that the Goldstone Report is an attack on it's ability to defend itself. Likewise Israel is attempting to manipulate UN1701 to prevent Lebanon from defending itself. And since when has Israel had the right to censor other soveriegn country's television programmes. Not only in Turkey but increasingly in the United Kingdom with repeated attempts by a group based in Jerusalem to censor the British Broadcasting Company. I won't even mention attempts by the Israeli government to change English law to favour Israelis.

"Lebanon however is insisting that the UN stop the Israeli overflights." They should only after the Lebanese army grows some balls and confronts Hezbollah. Its quite evident neither they or UNIFIL are impotent in preventing Hezoballah from storing arms along the border with Israel. Israel has been left no other choice than to take these overfly measures. When the Lebanese Army acts like an army should then Israel should cease the overflights.

kidnapping babies, maybe there should be a TV-serial (Why not Israeli ?) telling the true stories about the thousands and thousands Jemenite Jewish babies that were kidnapped by Israeli authorities and handed out to childless Askhenazi couples in the 1950s ??

it's a great idea! and anyone who says it's a war crime because it is indiscriminate will be tarred as a laughing stock and a bigot. It should be preceded with an announcement that random rockets will henceforth be lobbed into the general region of the gaza strip and there will be no notice to the inhabitants. And just keep doing it over and over non-stop!

Turkey, Iran and few others are expressing concern over Israel continuous use of force and making life miserable to Palestinians and Arabs. Arab regimes are either colliding and helping Israel's schemes or utterly silent. Israel's arrogance is dependent of the Western tolerence and balance of power. But, facts are quickly changing and a day could come when the West can no longer lend a hand to Israel or to shaky Arab regimes. Things would then be different and the oppressed would get their justices.

The Islamic World is very complicated, Shia and Sunni kill each other by the hundreds each week; even the most moderen like Turkey will turn ugly and violent at a moments notice. Erdogan is a perfect example of how an Islamic leader can not be trusted with treaties or agreements. Israel can give every compromise and gift of land to the Palestinians but at the first opportunity to impress the hard line Islamists, Israel will be faced with hatred and attacks. When will Israel realize that it can exist only through strength? Turkey is your best Islamic friend - and look how fast and often they seem ready to kill and degrade you.

"Turkey PM: Israel is endangering world peace" Ed. What is the difference to World Peace if this land belongs to the Jews or the Arabs ?? Haven't the world other more important things to worry about ? When this land was under occupation by the Egyptians & the Jordanians the world was "not endangered" & no one was the wiser ! What the Turkish PM is saying, goes much deeper than a political statement ? It shows how much the world wasn't changed regarding the Jews since the Middle Ages ! A waring to both the Jews & Israel that must never be ignored ! Shame !

Israel works very hard with Turkey to deny the Armenian Genocide. [ Israel Turkey and the politics of genocide] Talk about biting the hand that feeds them

Erdocan is once again typically blind in one eye: he points his finger at Israel as a danger for world peace but in reality (and unconsciously) he means Iran and (Palestinian) Islamic terror .... This happens when you're trained from childhood to remove the inconvenient truths.

PM Erdogan of Turkey is rapidly wasting Attaturks hard fought modernization of Turkish society with his blatant lies uttered towards Israel about its justified punishment of extremists Islamic groups for their unprovoked rocket and mortar attacks on Israeli civilians.

...World Peace Exists? Erdogan speaks as if World Peace currently exists and Israel threatens its existence, in which case perhaps Erdogan can advise what is happening Afghanistan, why Canadian soldiers are sent home in body bags along the Highway of Heroes 401 West from Trenton Ontario to Toronto Coroners office? Why UK,USA and Pakistanis are currently fighting in the NWFP Thanks for the Tripe, Turkey, perhaps when you speak seriously, unbiasly and rationally they will take your request to join the EU similarly. Europeans, if Turkey gets in, feel free to come to Canada we have plenty of space, but we frown on 3 hour lunch breaks.

Downgrade ties, expel the Turkish ambassador now.

Dear, In the eyes of the world Israel has became one spoiled state, doing whatever they wish and profiting of the western countries tax payers. Turkeys PM is absolutely right to point out what is going wrong in the region. The truth allways hurts when it's said by a friend I would say. Bravo Mr Erdogan I hope soon other world leaders will join your footsteps.

No doubt possible anylonger. There is strategy. Erdogan wants to be a new Calif. He succeeded to cut ties with West, but will he get Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia , Packistan to have him as a leader?

Ataturk was from the Balkans and he knew how hatreds flared up. He wanted Turkey to keep at peace and not have wars with its neighbors as in the Balkans. In the Balkans, I think feudal families fought among themselves; and those people have been fighting with each other ever since. The many different groups in Lebanon can sometimes be a problem causing fighting; however, making Turkey for the Turks did not solve Turkey's problems either. Somewhere there is a solution - but Turkey, Israel, Lebanon have to find it. They haven't found it yet.

This idiot is sounding more and more like his buddy Ahmadinejad with his lies and hypocrisy! Turkey is about to lose all its chances to join the EU. Sarkozy was right all along: You can not trust a country run by islamists.

I don't understand why Israel is always making excuses to friends with the Turks. Their PM has been bad mouthing us constantly in the media. I think it's about time we cut the Turkish government loose. I mean really...who needs them.

Erdogan is getting crazier and crazier faster. HE IS THE REAL DANGER NOW, as all madmen are, such as Ahmadinedjad, his new friend. And Hariri is just a typical Lebanese a... licker, and will go with the wind, just like Dumblat the mad Lebanese Druze chief; let them both embrace their Hizbolah brothers for now and Erdogan kiss Hamastan and hope they all stab each other in the back as they know best to do........especially Erdogan now. Soon, Erdogan will anounce his mariage to Hugo Chavez and Gadafi....what Carnival world we'd live in....... And if Turkey join the E.U., God help us all. Whatch out the Turkish army reinforcements in Cyprus and soon to be excuses for showing their muscles to Greece....... Guess what is Erdogan's problem ? Yes guess, because if I write it, Haaretz wont' print it. What a disappointment Erdogan turns out to be. What a pity he is moving toward you know who, I am trying hard to remain politically correct here, but how can we and be genuine ?

I congratulate Turkey's resolve to state facts concerning Israel's conduct. More and more nations and citizens are beginning to voice their criticism of Israel--even in the US. Hopefully, within a few years, the BDS movement will be mainstream throughout the world.

Oh oh i see Israel is making a lot of people angry; will thats good, people should wake up already and force internationnal law on Israel before it's too late for everyone.

ok, edrogan was exagerating...there were rockets shot into Israel but Israel also has sieged Gaza not allowing basic neccesities such as food and medicine in and as far as im concerned, thats an act of war.

That is what happened last week.Was that disproportionate response?

Erdogan is finally revealing Turkey's true colors--they will fall into the Moslem extremist camp, just like all the other Moslem nations eventually. Their governments, which are dysfunctional and corrupt, will never give their people any economic or political horizon, and so they will drift to extremism and religious fanaticism. Nation-building doesn't work with these people--they aren't capable of it.

If Israeel wants to be a modern nation and if Israel wants security in its own region of the world it must start acting modern and progressive. One obvious step would be signing the NPT treaty and let inspectors monitor the Israeli nuclear stockpile. I don't know why Israel is so worried about Iran getting the "the bomb", since Israel already has many. In Iran's eyes, Israel is the threat to the region. Wake up, Israel its the 21st Century get modern and join your regional neighbors against the outside threat of Iran.

Why is he lying? We still have the holes in the ground from the mortars that were fired from Gaza. As for Israel being disproportionate - maybe Israel should start manufacturing crude drainpipes with rocket fuel and exlosive warheads and jsut fire them at random into Gaza. Then that will be proportionate, won't it?

It's time for Israel to officially recognise the Armenian genocide

Sheesh, if it isn't the two burnt pots calling the kettle black! I don't hear him complaining when Jews are gunned down, or for that matter copts in Egypt. But of course, IDF always uses "exaggerated force". He should be asking if the PA is in favor of peace or not (Hint: the answer is No)