Egyptian FM demands Israel probe alleged 1967 POW killings

The claims should not have been shown on Israeli TV unless they have some evidence to prove their claims. Otherwise it's all just speculation.

not a crime. Cool off, would you like to be sentenced before you're investigated? Based on prior operations of the Egyptian army, they could well have been killed by their own officers to prevent tham from fleeing as they did in 1948.

why Egyptian Officer's and Non-com's find out why it was necessary to CHAIN their soldiers to their machine guns and cannon in the '48 war. Known facts are that it was necessary to prevent the Egyptian soldiers from abandoning their positions, shedding their clothing and weapons and running as fast as they could back to Egypt. Those that weren't chained and managed to flee, on the way home, their fellow Muslim Beduin brothers, refused them water and looted whatever clothes and possessions remained. Yes, MR.FM,look to the rot in your own household.

In my opinion, there should be a complete investigation of the allegations. If crimes were committed against Egyptian POWs, those guilty should be punished. There is no other way. I suspect, unfortunately, that we will find it a two-way street. Heki iddinya! While our peace treaty can use more exchange of people, ideas and goods, I agreed with Menachem Begin in the painful (for us) uprooting of Israeli Sinai settlements and cities. And as for Anwar Sadat, we shall not see the likes of him again, at least in my generation. Xsarra! Shalom!

It is a pleasure to see that a man who had been filled with hatred for anything Jewish and Israeli and who has spent endless hours spilling this hatred on an Israeli Jewish website has finally come to see the truth. Unless,of course,this post of him is another farce which he will attribute to some "fake Clickfool".

hate Israel. Words (polite) cannot express my feelings of utter astonishment at learning of the true nature of revised Zionism, and it's capacity of cruelty to another race of people. I am disgusted with politicians in my country (Israels ally) who are too gutless to speak out against Zionisms continued brutality heaped upon the native people of Palestine and Lebanon. And let us not forget the Jewish people who also suffered because of Zionisms drive for, 'Eretz Israel.' I do not 'hate,' but I am very, very, angry at the people who believe they are a 'chosen' race with the authority to treat others, as inferior humans not worthy of basic human rights. Don't rubbish Haaretz Miriam, it is thanks to this newspaper that I have learned of Jewish humanitarians, brave people speaking up for, and at times puting themselves in danger as they endeavor to be an advocate for a people who have suffered because of brutal, manipulating, Western imperialism. I wish you Peace Miriam.

That Haaretz - that I once used to think was a newspaper - has turned out to be a guttersnipe press rag ( and a dirty one at that ) that caters to the likes of the majority that hate Eretz Israel to POST on their pages. It cheapens you but more impotantly IT CHEAPENS our country. You did not see fit to publish my other comment on this subject - what? too scared to face the truth. Your paper is not for good Jewish people - just good for riff raff and using to wrap up the garbabe.

Israeli POWS executed or tortured to death. Your "humanitarian" interest stops at a swipe at Israel. If you give a damn about justice you would ask the obvious. No,torture and murder of Israeli prisoners does not warrant a mention,just go with the Arabs,calls for justice for Israelis obviously are not part of the new order.

Moslems& Moslem converts sniping &killing Americans in Maryland,killing their American army officers,fighting for Al Qeida.etc etc. How safe is the USA if they do not follow CAIRS "suggestion" that they convert to Islam?

2003 May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers killed 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners. Al-Qaeda suspected. 2004 May 29?31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound, leaving 22 people dead including one American. June 11?19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. 2 other Americans and BBC cameraman killed by gun attacks. Dec. 6, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate, killing 5 consulate employees. 4 terrorists were killed by Saudi security. 2005 Nov. 9, Amman, Jordan: Suicide bombers hit 3 American hotels, Radisson, Grand Hyatt, and Days Inn, in Amman, Jordan, killing 57. Al-Qaeda claimed responsibility. 2006 Sept. 13, Damascus, Syria: an attack by four gunman on the American embassy was foiled.

Bad things happen in wars. thats why we should avoid them at all costs.

Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15 years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to victims' families. 1993 Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected. 1995 April 19, Oklahoma City: car bomb exploded outside federal office building, collapsing wall and floors. 168 people were killed, including 19 children and 1 person who died in rescue effort. Over 220 buildings sustained damage. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols later convicted in the antigovernment plot to avenge the Branch Davidian standoff in Waco, Tex., exactly 2 years earlier. (See Miscellaneous Disasters.) Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing 5 U.S. military servicemen. 1996 June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. 13 Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001. 1998 Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. 4 men connected with al-Qaeda 2 of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large. 2000 Oct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. 17 sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network. 2001 Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed 2 commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; 2 more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed. (See September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.) 2002 June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb exploded outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda

1982?1991 Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was held for 2,454 days. 1983 April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility. Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut. Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait: Shiite truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80. 1984 Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military. Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. 2 Americans killed. 1985 April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82. June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA Flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed. Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to Libya. Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya. 1986 April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9. April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds. 1988 Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15 years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to victims' families. 1993 Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected. 1995 April 19, Oklahoma City: car bomb exploded outside federal office building, collapsing wall and floors. 168 people were killed, including 19 children and 1 person who died in rescue effort. Over 220 buildings sustained damage. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols later convicted in the antigovernment plot to avenge the Branch Davidian standoff in Waco, Tex., exactly 2 years earlier. (See Miscellaneous Disasters.) Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military headquarters, killing 5 U.S. military servicemen. 1996 June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. 13 Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001. 1998 Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. 4 men connected with al-Qaeda 2 of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large.

....warcrimes and it beggars belief that some people feel that this war crime shouldn't be investigated. All such crimes should be thouroughly investigated or next time it could be any one of you paying the price for not caring about justice for all.

I see your hate for israel and the Jews burns as bright as ever.Do you realise none of your fantasies will ever come to pass? HA HA HA

A few weeks ago it was the spy thing, now it is this.the govt of egypt provides these types of anti israel dog an pony shows to allow for a vicarious release of hatred amoungst its people against Israel without any real consequences,this is mob manipulation at its best.The arab rulers manipulate their people as if they were children.And in any event no israeli soldier sjould ever stand trial for anything even if true.The Egyptians should be made to face attempted genocide charges for what they tried to do in 67.What rankhypocrites they are,screw them.

Yonatan, You wouldn't probably find a similar article or documentary in the Egyptian media, in a matter of fact they were saying in the Egyptian media that we gave a tour for the Israeli POWs in cairo to see the pyramids :-) well I don't know if that is true or not. I admit that Egyptian Media is very inflamatory against Israel & sometimes anti-semitic too, I hope that changes. Some idiots lawmakers might call for canceling the peace treaty with Israel also, I know the extent of issues we have in Egypt. Having said that, we Egyptians still have to care about things happened to fellow Egyptians. I wonder how the Israeli government will react to the Egyptian request? Shalom.

The keyword is "Alleged", not proven. I feel like a teacher having to continually having correct an errant child. I'm quite afraid that the bad diction is yours, not the other party. As usual, I'm including a bit of information for your continuing education. Read what the maker of the film had to say, try to understand. ----------------------------------------------Egypt asks Israel to probe alleged 1967 killings (Reuters) 6 March 2007 BRUSSELS - Egypt called on Israel on Tuesday to investigate charges that Israeli troops led by Israel?s current infrastructure minister may have killed Egyptian prisoners of war in 1967. Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni promised to watch an Israeli documentary which Egyptian and Israeli media reports have said contained the charges, but said she understood that those killed had died in battle, and called on the two countries to put the past behind them. Egyptians were outraged by the film, which according to Israeli media reports alleged that an army unit led by Israel?s now infrastructure minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer may have killed 250 prisoners of war in Sinai rather than transferring them to POW camps. In a meeting with Livni in Brussels, Egyptian Foreign Minister Aboul Gheit called for Israel to conduct an inquiry and to report its findings to Egypt. ?The Egyptian people and Egyptian society is extremely angry and we hope that the issue will be tackled in a manner to understand and feel that Egyptian anger,? he told a news briefing. Livni said she had yet to see the film, but added: ?The information that I got is that we are talking about a situation in which soldiers or people were killed during a battle.? ?Right now the relations between Israel and Egypt are based on peace and understanding and I think that even though there are scars -- families whose loved ones were killed during the wars, this is something we should leave behind us. Ben-Eliezer has denied the allegations, saying those killed were Palestinian guerrillas fighting in the Egyptian army and that they died in battle. The maker of the Israeli documentary that gave rise to the controversy has denied his film had asserted that captured Egyptian soldiers had been shot.

If that's how you feel about Israel, i wonder what you think should be done to the Arab regimes whose war-crimes far exceed those ever carried out by Israelis. If Israel is a rogue state, what does that make Egypt (most of their war-crimes were during that time-frame as well), Syria (20 000 dead in hama anyone?), Jordan (black september anyone), Lebanon (ethnic cleansing anyone), and every other arab state which is guilty war crimes far warse, and far more often than Israel. YOU HYPOCRIT!

How much credit do you give testimony from people who are clearly not impartial, about something they claim to have seen 40 years ago. (But decided to do absolutely nothing about until now, not even inform the government so those bodies could be buried and their families given peace of mind). This amounts to "we found some bodies in the desert, and OH YEA i personally saw them executed and tortured but decided to do absolutely nothing about it for 40 years". How much credit would a court of law give such testimony? Where is the outrage about Egyptians being shot by their own trying to retreat? Or how about the numerous and extensive war-crimes perpetrated against Israeli civilians and soldiers? This is a poor excuse to attempt to abrigate Egyptian peace with Israel. Call it what it is, warmongering.

U want to discharge Tom Hurondal's murder trial ? No problem ! I will bring another example of a non bias Israel court: 1. March 2006 The Jerusalem Magistrates Court convicted Yifat Elkobi, resident of the Jewish settlement in Hebron , for inappropriate conduct in public and causing damage to the house of a Palestinian family in 2001 I would much appreciate if could take facts into account and reconsider your previous statment !!!

The killed Arab soldiers are being called? palestinians? by Israel and ?Egyptians? by Egypt. This may indicate a difference in Israeli minds today but it appears not to in Egyptian minds. Therefore, it is an admission that so called ?palestinians? fighting in 1967 were really Egyptians. Like arafat. The clarification of under what circumstances they were killed is a topic but the position by Egypt that they were Egyptians is an admission that those so called ?palestinians? are actually Egyptians as Gazan Arabs are. So, we are getting closer to the truth of who palestinians really are in opening up this can of worms.

Moises, I must admit you are correct. There is far too much anti-Israel sentiment in the Arab world. Would it be different if Israel would change some of her policies...?? I don't know. But it might be worth (another) try.

Well then it must be true.

I responded to your points, point by point. If Ha'aretz does not print it I will resent it tommorrw. Your point about the IDF murder of Tom Hurndal is egregiously incorrect.

The killed Arab soldiers are being called? palestinians? by Israel and ?Egyptians? by Egypt. This may indicate a difference in Israeli minds today but it appears not to in Egyptian minds. Therefore, it is an admission that so called ?palestinians? fighting in 1967 were really Egyptians. Like arafat. The clarification of under what circumstances they were killed is a topic but the position by Egypt that they were Egyptians is an admission that those so called ?palestinians? are actually Egyptians as Gazan Arabs are. So, we are getting closer to the truth of who palestinians really are in opening up this can of worms.

Israel must demand that Egypt investigate the hate in their media and school text books, which led the Egyptian Atta to orchestrate the 9/11 attacks that killed 3000 innocent people.

Can we have your statistical survey? Lying about the other side,dismissing the total picture is a fine example of apartheid. Sweeping generalisations of the other is what,if not apartheid,you fit in nicely

I can always tell an anti-semite who is out of work because he cannot compete with smarter, more intelligent co-workers. Got your number, willie.

on dead israeli prisoners lynched mutilated etc.

especially if they announce that they are going in to wipe Israel out. Its nice to be sanctimonious is it? Especially from the "moral high ground" that the Arab side occupies.

as good a handle as click fool. lying for your comrades -not a problem?

Because to even hint at being sympathetical to the Jews (or "the Zionists" which is basically saying any Jew that supports his/her national liberation) in the Arab world is enough to get you in trouble as a public figure. Expressing hate for Israel is a pre-requisite.

Mr. Sullivan, in each and every forum, almost all Israelis and Jews continue to insist in you recognition towards Israel right to exist. Most of the time, you do address the issue with great irony and disrespect, dealing with the subject as an ethereal concept, much more suitable to be discussed in a Cartesian circle. Unfortunately for both sides , this concept does not involve philosophy aspects , but most of the time it does relate to the loss of beloved ones. Your position with regards a Jew state is clear there is no need to any clarification. My post , therefore does not ?pledge? for you to accept Israel as Nation but to demand honesty in your comments. In respect the last one, you do insinuate that an Israel court is not capable of conducting an non bias investigation against Jews or IDF ? As if any Arab country has every condemned anyone one for killing an Israeli ? Please find below a list of facts which contradict your statement

1. A former Israeli Defence Force (IDF) soldier has been found guilty by a military court of manslaughter for the April 2003 shooting of British peace activist Tom Hurndall in the Gaza Strip. 2. December 2006 an Israeli court convicted a Jewish settler of murdering four Palestinian civilians in the occupied West Bank last year as Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip 3. September 2005, The High Court of justice instructed the government Thursday morning to reroute the West Bank security fence near the settlement of Alfei Menashe, in effect calling for a dismantlement of the fence already built in the area. 4. October 2005: The High Court of Justice rules that it is illegal for the IDF to use Palestinian civilians during military actions and that it is forbidden to use the prior warning procedure.. I hope in the near future you be more careful before writing a un truthful statement !!!

Well, of course. The ideas of those 'liberal Jews' contradict what's needed for the brave new Israel at just about every turn.

"In 1995, Vice Premier Shimon Peres assigned a reserve Israeli army major to investigate it, but the investigation yielded no results." Come on guys. 'but' implies a contradiction. If the IDF 'investigates' something, the results are pretty predictable. The rest of the sentence should read 'SO the investigation yielded no results.'

conqueror from the Arabian peninsula?

Whoa! Disarm? Dismantle? For what reason would that be necessary? Righting - or owning up to past bad behaviour and choosing a more moderate policy for tommorrow is what is needed. I think you may misunderstand criticism of Israel's government policies as rejection of the state. I want the time to come when both Israeli's and Palestinian's lives have improved because they have each chosen to take the high road in their treatment of one another. I cannot accept unjust actions toward Israel anymore than I can accept the cruelty shown to Palestinians by Israel. I don't consider getting rid of one-half of the equation a solution.

AND SO MY POINT IS PROVEN ITS CONJECTURE

Israel must demand that Egypt must investigate the 100 Sudanese refugees they murdered last year. Israel must also demand Egypt tell where the 18 Kurdish women Egypt abducted from Iraq during the anfal killings are. Egypt used these women as sex slaves. These women have not been heard from in 18 years.

WHICH KILLED 10, 000 POLISH AND BRITISH TROOPS . NO ONE KNOWS WHY IT HAPPENED ITS ALL CONJECTURE !! OR US FRIENDLY FIRE IN IRAQ 1 AND 2 WHICH KILLED BRITISH TROOPS THAT IS MY POINT !! NOT THAT IT HAPPENED

Additionally, the court's legal counsel, Captain Ward Boston, JAGC, U.S. Navy, prepared and signed an affadavit (pdf) in which he claimed that Admiral Kidd had told him that the government ordered Kidd to falsely report that the attack was a mistake, and that he and Kidd both believed the attack was deliberate. He wrote, in part, "The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 American sailors and injured 172 others, was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew. Each evening, after hearing testimony all day, we often spoke our private thoughts concerning what we had seen and heard. I recall Admiral Kidd repeatedly referring to the Israeli forces responsible for the attack as 'murderous bastards.' It was our shared belief, based on the documentary evidence and testimony we received first hand, that the Israeli attack was planned and deliberate, and could not possibly have been an accident."

don`t look back 40 yaers !!!!!! dont look back to 1930 - 1945 ,how about that paul???

Israel is a ROUGE state that MUST be IMMEDIATELY DISARMED and DISMANTLED. Israel's leaders MUST also be ARRESTED for their WAR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.

Mr. Harris - "Wild stories?" Did I not give you enough information? I own the book I referenced - and others. Why don't YOU Google the incident? Or - go to the USS Liberty website and study-up. I guarantee that you will find believable accounts - not hare-brained conspiracy loonies. I urge all to look it up. I do not enjoy being snookered so easily. '67 was a long time ago - could it really be so injurious to our world today to know the truth??

Dear Clickfool - This is probably a nasty, insensative thing to say to you, regarding your question about the current status of the Penobscot Native Americans of New England?.........but maybe they didn't use the argument that they had a 5000 year old unbreakable real estate contract "from on high". Should Israel exist? Without question! But what is this business with the specific geographical boundaries? Some of the absolutism I read about sounds an awful lot like very old hearsay. Don't you have to negotiate in today's world like the rest of us?

"BTW How are those Penobscot Native-Americans that used to be in the Boston area?" You mean Tonto? He's filling up my car

Sharafna. I am not surprised by your post. I have been to Egypt many times. The warmth of most Egyptians contrasts directly with their government's behavior toward Jews and Israel. It is not the "controversy" that bothers me, all countries unfortunately have instances during war time in which their code of ethics is violated, but it is the call for "suspending" the peace treaty between us. Just one example, Japan has yet to satisfactorily apologize for enslaving Korean women, but no South Korean legislator is calling for a "suspension" of relations. I'm proud of our free press for raising the issue. I despair that Al-Ahram cannot let a week go by without defaming Jews and Israel. We can all do better. Shu bitfak'r? Shalom!

I fully support Mr Abu Al-Gheit on his demands, and wish Israeli citizens who have stood side by side against the German Gestabo in WW II, who killed 6 million Jews, to stand in support of this demand. This all would be to support peace! Thanks

by searching Google for "Sinai mass graves"

THAT IS THE PROBLEM SO STOP THE WILD STORIES AS THEY MAY NOT BE THE TRUTH !!

I agree Yaacov but didn't that investigation on the Sabra/Shatilla massacre - in finding Sharon complicit - also find that he(Sharon) should NOT hold public office again - or maybe it was a cabinet position? Well, what ever happened to that resolve by the Israeli judicial system? Kind of like our Nixon, you think they are gone not to be respected again and then........ they're baaaaaack!

This will never happen. Just like the US will never conduct a real investigation into the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty. Israel is above the law, above morality, above ethics, above everything. Everything Israel does in correct, righteous, legal, and justified. Just ask any US politician who has dealt with the Israel Lobby. Israel uber alles!

Jews and Israel are automatically guilty, especially when they're not. And when will Apartheid-think allow for guilty Arabs and Muslims? In the small, secluded world that is Apartheid's mind, there is no such thing. Even as Israelis are blown up in their homes, and on school-buses, or in pizza-parlors, there is no guilt. Would that this would happen more often in that den of iniquity known as Boston, MA... BTW How are those Penobscot Native-Americans that used to be in the Boston area?

How about the USS Liberty? 34 dead and 171 wounded from attack by the Israelis on June 8th, 1967. Shamefully, Pres. Johnson said he would rather the ship sank than embarrass his "allies" Why? According to "Body Of Secrets", by James Bamford - The Israeli's felt the NSA intelligence gathering ship might have picked up - guess what......... the slaughter of unarmed and bound Egyptian prisoners at El Arish. Israeli journalist Gabi Bron wrote of actually witnessing the execution of 150 prisoners, "with his own eyes". Such was the importance of sheilding our "allies" from critizism and total disregard for the loyal service of our own men .......that assistance was delayed to the listing ship and a news black-out enforced from the Pentagon. Now some of you will understand how this could happen and we never knew of this treachery. I support Israel - but we will never get to a better tommorrow until we deal with yesterday's mistakes. Let's embrace the TRUTH and get on with living a BETTER day!

THESE COLUMNS ARE FULL OF WILD AND UNSUPPORTED ACCUSATIONS . YOU ARE NO EXCEOPTION !!

found, the villain is the person who lets out the story and the victim is the commander of the troops that did the killing.

"Well, they started it!" "So what, they did things just as bad"

I actually think that Israel should have an inquiry about this but why should I,a jew say that? I look in the face of arab attrocities constantly and there seems to be no expectations of their lawfulness or not. But as a jew I think there should be an inquiry to sort out this allegation. But remember when you try to make some equivelance between israel and its neighbours,think again.There is no equivelance,we are driven by a different drummer and have to be responsible.They dont.

YAAKOV, PLEASE TELL US HOW YOU PROPOSE TO INVESTIGATE A MINOR INCIDENT AFTER 40 YEARS ?? AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF IT WAS INVESTIGATED . THE LASME BRAIN EGYTIANS CAME BACK FOR MORE IN 1973 AND NEARLY LOST CAIRO !

In his book about the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), BODY OF SECRETS, James Bamford argues that Israel intentionally attacked the NSA's USS Liberty in 1967 not only because the ship's listening devices compiled evidence that condradicted Abba Eiban's claim that Israel was only responding in the war to an Egyptian attack; but also because the ship had evidence that Israelis were engaged in war crimes in al-Arish by killing Egyptian POWs. Egyptian POWs were asked to dig graves for their dead comrades before they themselves were killed.

In each case the author creates a fuss. In each case the author claims press reports badly distorted his opus. Is it so pleasant to become the central figure of a scandal based upon libel?

And like all Israeli investgations, it went nowhere? Has any Israeli investigation held Israel or any of its agencies accountable? Oh, yes, the one investigating the Sabra Chatilla massacres where it found Sharon and the IDF complicit in the killings carried out by the Maronite militia. The killing of these POWs will go nowhere unless Egypt insists there be an independent investigaation.

Freedom is a wonderful state to live in, but only a few people in the Free World anymore understand that freedom entails responsiblity. We must become worthy of freedom! Without boundaries freedom becomes nothing but sheer anarchy and this is the state, the Western free world today finds itself in. There MUST be rules to public figures on what can be said and shown publically, because they affect directly other people. If we believe that in the name of freedom it is acceptable to hurt other people's sensitivities, then we are abusing that freedom. IF the truth of this film is disputable, then the content should have been investigated beforehand for facts. It appears to me that the Western greed for money and fame have replaced all the ethical values and together with them also democracy and freedom, which stand on them! These, the most valued concepts, have become void of substance in the modern West because they are mercilessly abused.

that whipped and killed my ancestors while they were forced to build the Pyramids. Dates and extent of punishment is also needed. Monetary reparations for the enforced slave labor must be remitted forthwith.

This might come as a surprise for many Israelis, There are Egyptians that believe Israel has the right to exist and live in peace, but also believe in morals & ethics (both ways) even during war times. Israelis have the right to demand a stop of anti israeli sentiment in EGyptian media and I think your FM should use this chance to do so (if you really care).Also, if Egyptians (not arabs) treated israeli POWs harshly or killed any of them I would like to know that? You will have to remember that it was the Israeli "Free" media that started this whole thing, whatever reaction you see from the Egyptians could have been avoided by simply not opening old wounds, unless there is another reason I can't see for bringing this topic back to life.

S, allow me to differentiate a little bit: When it comes to Israels (or the Jewish) Left, as well as parts of the moderate camp, you are right, you would definitely go for the Gold medal. However, when it comes to Israels (or the Je- wish Diaspora) Right, you would probably land quite far behind. One consolation: You would share that poor result with the Right wingers of all the other countries around the world...:)

..."Egyptian FM demands Israel probe alleged 1967 POW killings..." A servant demands his master to probe killings? This is so amuzing.

Peter, the women in the Eastern part of the "Third Reich" 1945 would probably have told you one or another story about the conduct of the Red army. On the other hand, I think we are all quite thankful for the human sacrifice they brought by fighting Nazi-Germany. You may have a point that some of the armies who behaved worst during history were in fact communist or socialist military forces (Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot....) On the other hand we probably would call neither the German SS nor the Japanese troops loyal to the emperor "red armies". And they were also not known for treating their enemies very nicely...

TRUTH eat some sead weed, preferably from the dead sea.Light unto all Nations, Moral Army, Yeah Sure.

Therefore if there is evidence, the attorney general or the appropriate authority in Israel should decide if an investigation is to be launched. We know how Israeli POW returned from the Arab countries, especially from Syria. Those who survived ended up in a mental home. Prisoners in Egypt were butchered with axes. But this is not the point, Israel is not like them. Justice should be done.

We are world and olympic champions at self-bashing. We kept the title continuously for the last 3000 years.

picture of evil Israel and innocent peace loving Arabs. I feel this should not go unchallenged. Shalom

Hope this does not signal a change in Egyptian policy towards peace. I can tell you who the fellow travellers will blame if peace falls through.It will be instant and knee jerk. BTW. Communist armies were at the front of queue in brutality with the rest.Soviet behviour in the areas conquered by them was despicable looting and raping was an everyday occurence. Brutality to their own,mindlessly sacrificing their soldiers as nothing more than a renewable commodity was well documented. The Red Army was pretty merciless in the civil war as well. Regards.

STARTING IN THE 19TH CENTURY THEY HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU WILL FIND . THEY ARE BARBARIANS GOING ALONG WAY BACK !!

Whatever the merits of this "controversy", according to the article, Egyptian lawmakers advocate "suspending" the peace with my country. Now, last year, Egyptian-run TV broadcast a dramtic series which portrayed Jews murdering children for their blood. While there were Israeli protests, no Israeli legislator demanded a suspension of the peace treaty. Indeed, rarely does a day pass that Al-Ahram doesn't run an anti-Semitic charicature, or anti-Israel article. This is truly the peace of our dreams. And still we Israelis debate whether to accept the Saudi "initiative." I am proud of my people, to have so much hope in the face of so much hatred. Heki iddinya! Shalom!

According to Uri Milstein as published recently, the troops were retreating and the IDF had orders that came from the Minister of Defense (at the time Rabin) to eliminate the force. Milstein doesn't claim that these troops had surrendered, but he also gives the strong impression that the IDF was not that interested in taking prisoners either. So while it wasn't the best example of "purity of arms" (largely a myth anyway) and not either Rabin's or Sharon's finest moment it could be excused since the victims were fedayeen who were nothing more than cold-bloodied killers who had terrorized the communities bordering Gaza. Moral outrage from Egypt in regards to the conduct of war is pathetically absurd. As if they cared?

Ron Arad is missing, probably long dead, but the involvement of a particular Arab government on his disappearance can not be materially proven, and the Egyptians in particular were never involved in the affair, therefore Kipperaes' argument is silly. Plus, Israel comitted several war crimes during the last 60 years and the perpetrators were nearly never punished, this includes Ariel Sharon who is now going into a comfortable death without having been tried for what he did in Sabra and Shatilla. There sare so many other crimes that Beneliezer's case is just one of them. Israeli criminals of war must be brought to court just like Goering or Slobodan Milosevic. That is it, if you comit war crimes, irrespective of you being Israeli, Turkish or American, you pay the consequences, no exception can be accepted.

we know what they are but we also know that this stuff is not for us.irrespective of their behaviour.

that is not who we are.

the events are too recent.how would we feel.they are right and we are very wrong.a shameful day for us. the worst thing would be to try and rationalise it.

defenders were machine gunned. The British mercenaries,Sir John Glubb& his men,fighting for them must have been proud.

Both Britain (100 years ago) and the Roman Empire (2000 years ago) also oppressed Egyptians, yet I don't hear any demands for breaking relations with them over things that happened in the past. The truth is that Egpytians view the "peace agreement" as an abberation and are waiting for an excuse to end them. The only problem is that $2 Billion comes from the US and that might be cut. That is the ONLY reason Egypt maintains the pretence of these phony "peace agreements" that Egypt violates every day.

arrogance.left wing scumbags.mule headedness.uncaring.unthinking. sack the man responsible.and establish a commission to find out why this was aired.

toaff syndrome is exact and to the point.

the egyptians have every right to be enraged.what was the point of reminding us of this loathsome story?

With the exception of the Right wingers (not only a phenomena in Israel...) everybody else knows very well, that during war, human beings can turn into monsters. And neither Israelis nor Egyptians are an exception to that rule. So what's the purpose...??

I work in the field of history. I also write a fair bit. We are living with a tsunami of Israel bashing.The last thing we need is Israelis and Jews gratuitously fomenting even more hatred. Should we call this the 'Toaff syndrome'? How could Israeli t.v. air such a program?

No doubt actions by both sides during the war were less than ideal. The real question is how any Israeli producer could expect this program not to open wounds and why retired generals like Ben Eliezer agreed to take part in such a film. Are these people suicidal?

Peace must be between two nations that kind of peace from the beginning has been between Israeli nation and Egyptians government in a other world the most majority of Egypt population did not accept that peace and now with that documentary film there will be a chance that the Egyptians government will support her nation, I hope this problem will solve soon as possible

what of fim maker is that????

The foreign minister should be sendign an even sharper letter to the Egyptians demanding the investigation of every single case of Israeli POWs who were tortured and murdered by Egypt, expose the fact that the Egyptian Army effectively abandoned its soldiers to their fate and even shot at some of them as they tried to cross the canal back to Egypt.

What a chutzpah! Whether the alleged executions of Egyptian POWs is true or not, it is nothing-in fact, less than nothing - compared to Egyptian war crimes against Israel. What about the attack on the new-born Jewish state in 1948. What about cornering Israel and leaving it no other choice than launching pre-emptive strikes in 1956 and 67. And of course, the vicious cowardly attack on Yom Kippour in 1973. Anwar Sadat himself was a major war criminal. Are the Egyptians ever going to make a movie highlighting their war crimes? Egyptian law makers demanding an annulment of the peace treaty? Fine. Let's re-occupy Sinai. In fact, Israel has every right to take back Sinai, because Egypt has violated and is constantly violating the peace treaty. Amoung others, they let terrorists enter the Gaza strip from Sinai. Egyptians, Egyptians! When are you going to be capable of looking into the mirror and do some introspections?

..the Arabs

Geneva conventions be damned. They are only quoted at Israelis by the scum who pose as humanitarians.

their mouths with torture marks on their bodies. On the Syrian front they used to hang Israeli captives upside down and shoot them in their femurs(thigh bones) among other things. Then there are the Pals beating to death not only soldiers but captured Israeli children. "Arab honour" is that some kind of sick joke?

This whole diplomatic affair was started by a shnook left wing Jew's documentary. Way to go Hymie. Jews are their own worst enemies.

A) It's a movie. Movies take license. B) It was a war -- people die in wars. Even Arabs. C) The war was the result of Arabs attacking Israel D) It happened 40 years ago. E) Arabs never killed innocent Jews? How many Jews died as the result of suicide bombings? F) Arabs have killed more Arabs than the Jews ever killed. F) Get over it.

that this was thoroughly investigated years ago. If you don't have anything new against somebody you don't like, just keep recycling the old ones - there are enough hateful uninformed people in the world to believe them.

Didn't they use to cut off the leg of pilots they captured?

I AM SURPRISED THAT AN IRAELI, OR FOR THAT MATTER AN EGYPTIAN FILM DIRECTOR HAS NOT MADE A FILM ABOUT THE KILLING OF DEFENCELESS ISRAELI SOLDIERS WITH NO CHANCE ALLOWED FOR SURRENDER AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YOM kIPPUR wAR, AS I RECALL THSE TERRIBLE INCIDENTS HAPPENED. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HEAR A POSITIVE PROMOTION OF PEACE INSTEAD OF THE ICY HATEFUL RHETORIC THAT EMANATES FROM SOME PARTS OF THE MEDIA.ALL SUCH TERRIBLE EVENTS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED ON BOTH SIDES. AS THE GOOD BOOK SAYS" ZEDEK ZEDK TIRDUF" JUSTICE/ JUSTICE YOU SHALL PURSUE

Perhaps they can probe something more relevant like ... the bus bombing in Lebanon that Syria staged. That would be a good start.

I think the Egyptians should probe their anti semitic broadcasts that incite their population and cause many to seek out opportunity to kill Jews alive NOW ... Don't these Arabs have anything better to do then to distract their impoverished populations by jew baiting over and over. What a bunch of losers.

Murdering captive soliders, if that is what took place, is a war crime, and I am sure that Jews would be screaming to high heaven if it were Israeli soliders. the Zionist double standard is disgusting.

who was pm at the time said the incident brought no honour on anyone involved.he questioned why it was brought up in the first place.

Egypt is not even a major power anymore...have they not heard...they've grown fat and lazy and irrelevant (like Lybia)...Iran and Saudi Arabia have more influnce that Egypt ever will. So keep demanding...see if anyone cares....get a great economy or some nice weapons guys...as for now you'e simply irrelevant.