Egypt says would-be Hamas suicide bomber arrested near Israeli border

"if this was really a Hamas attack today..." Also with the qualifications. Hamas claimed responsibility for it, just as it did for the captured suicide bomber to be in Egypt, reported in the JPost. The leading party in the PA proudly announces its responsibility. Meanwhile, last month, news reports said that terrorists groups who worked with Hamas to kidnap Shalit reported that Hamas now has complete control of the kidnapped Israel. You alway claim moderation "if only" the truth were actually true. That's not moderation, that's waffling.

I do not lack moral awareness.

If this wannabe suicide bomber hadn't turned out to be a member of Hamas and if Hamas had denied involvement in the shooting of the Israeli electrical worker, I would have put it down to rogue elements of one of the other Palestinian militant/terrorist groups. Plus, PM Haniyeh recently said that the PA reserves the right to resistence by any and all means and Abu Ubaida says, "The enemy has been violating calm day and night in the West Bank and in Gaza and we had said calm was conditional." Well, the ceasefire does not extend to the West Bank and rocket fire from the Gaza Strip can be countered no matter who is doing it. Is this just a fluke--a lack of command and control within Hamas? Or does it mean that Hamas is getting ready to violate the ceasefire in a major way?

Cipora, Let's assume that you are correct with your assessement, then I would say it is one reason more to strictly separate from the Palestinians the sooner the better. That's exactly what your friend Danite is tel- ling you for quite some time now.

KT, thanks for the "flowers". Anyway, if this was really a Hamas attack today, then I am afraid there might be more truth behind your words than I would like to admit. The Palestinians definitely have to do some serious rethinking with regard to their (violent) strategies of resistance. This kind of stuff just doesn't work. Looks like I will have to do some more preaching over the coming weeks....

You spend most (if not all) your free time in front of your PC bashing jews and Israel and elevating the "great palestinian people": what a looser! Do you have a wife? I don't care about the bashing but please: get a life!!!!!

Even one life is too high a price to pay for some kind of transitory "international good will." When you can put an equal value on the lives of your young people who sacrifice themselves in these horrendous events, perhaps we can find a way to live together. Rockets killed only a "symbolic" two Israelis? Those lives are more than symbolic - they were real people!

I am currently reading Rashid Khalidi's "The Iron Cage," and it makes my brain keep saying "Conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory." Many of your posts seem to raise that thought. Has that, perhaps, been a continuing problem for Palestinians - that some sort of conspiracy has been the reason why your people have never succeeding? That is so much easier than looking at your own weaknesses and failures.

It is not strange at all. That is how they are. They believe in jihad. Their new text books prove beyond doubt that they have no intention of making peace, but of eradicating the State of Israel. Only fools would think otherwise. The differenec among their terror groups is an internal matter, and it has no importance for their posture toward Israel. Yes, al qaeeda is there, everyone knows they are there, but no one does anything about it.

You are a very logical and reasoning person. Your mistake is that you expect other people to be equally logical and reasoning. Does it make any sense for Hamas or any of its supporters to make such moves on the day that Norway has has "broken" the Hamas boycott. No, of course it doesn't. But such illogical behavior has been the biggest problem for Palestinians since at least the 1920s.

You ask: "Don't you see some incongruity in in a portion of Palestinian funds collected . . . being used to subsidize settlers . . ." I ask you, don't you see some incongruity in the Israelis turning over funds to pay for weapons and explosives to be used against Israeli civilians?

You ask, "What possible benefit could he [Haniyeh] derive from approving these terrible events?" Good question. On the other hand, if he did not approve them and that responsibility for at least the shooting of the electric worker was claimed by Haniyeh, then the only other explanation is that no one is able to exert any control over the Palestinians. So are they capable of self-government?

You are right. It makes no sense. But perhaps the fact that Hamas claimed responsibility is the reason why we think they were responsible.

A very wise question and the one that probably should have been asked more frequently since at least the 1920s.

Do you have a map? Do you know how to read a map? What on earth makes you think the guy was in the Disputed Territories?

What about the guy the Egyptians caught? He said he was Hamas and was waiting for instructions.

ONLY Norway has reached out to the new PA-gov., NOT the EU. So far the EU is sticking firmly to its 3 demands on the PA-unity gov.; to first and foremostly renounce violence against Israel, before the relations can be normalized. I find it rather odd that Norway made this move, since she has a special status in the EU (a NON-member) and therefore at least should have shown some respect for the EU-standpoint and some coherent political direction with the EU in this issue and NOT to act on her own and to disregard the EU altogether. Then again; it is very typical Scandinavian to decide for oneself and personally I think that this is exactly what Norway did...without any consideration for the EU or anybody else.

and Hamas's Islamist charter.

Joe from Ramallah has a theory. His theory is that evrything, but everything that happens to the Palestinians, or that the Palestinians do, is the fault of Israel and America and therefore the Palestinians are never responsisible for their actions. Note he says the strife between the factions is the doing of Israel and the Mossad. He callas the more moderate of the two Palestinian leaders an American puppet, as he does some other new member of their cabinet. Dahlan's new position is a job contrived and imposed by the AMericans (what bunkum - funny that the USA can't get them to free Shalit). All their woes are due to Zionist and US pressure - rather reminds me of two of the three monkeys - see no evil and hear no evil. Evil they speak plenty.

Cipora, With regard to the students confession coming out of an Egypt police station, I would be very, very careful. I don't have to remind you that the torture of suspects is almost a passion in your region. However the statement of the Quassam brigades is very strange indeed. Because this kind of action makes about as much strategic sense as the Israeli diplomatic (non)"efforts" over the past 7 years. Namely zero.

Joe, you prove that you are a fool to a) doubt this report, b) think that its a Jewish conspiracy (hints of antisemitism, methinks. perhaps the jews also control the banks and the media?), c)think that the Shin Bet would plant a fake Palestinian in Egypt, especially considering the cold peace that exists between Egypt and israel. here's a huge slice of reality: Palestinians = violent people. they blow up kids in pizza shops. they blow up residential busses. they shoot guns in the air to celebrate and kidnap journalists. and then they wonder why Israel builds a fence to pen them in like animals.

Lynn, it was probably really one of the Quassam brigades "commanders" who got a little bit out of control today. If that's the case, he will most probably be in for some slaps in the face tonight. And whether this had to do with Hanijehs "right of resistance" remarks, I don't know. But it would be better anyway, if the Palesti- nians would leave the talking to Abbas. Much better.

Howdy Just Curious; You asked, "why would the Israeli`s wait until just after the election of Haniyeh to make a big deal of withholding the funds?" In the first place, PM Haniyeh was not "elected" last saturday; he was reconfirmed as PM of a new coalition government--a proceedure which is permissable under a parliamentary system without a popular vote. The "big deal" of Israel continuing to withhold funds came about due to the Israeli Cabinet voting on the issue which it couldn't really do until after the new Palestinian government was formed and its platform became clear. Bizarre isn't it? Theoretically, Kadima could dump Labor and some other left-wing parties and form a coalition with Likud and some right-wing parties, form a new center-right government (instead of center-left) provided that it had a majority in the Knesset, and it could all be done without holding national elections. We could never do something like in the U.S. "behind the scenes" as it were.

Open the checkpoints? not by your sweet bippy. That would only allows a constant flow of homicidal bomb bearing maniacs. You set the example, leave your house doors unlocked, keys in the car ignition and safety deposit box at the bank. Set the example, let us know how you make out.

Yes, I am real Dutchman. Hehe. Hamas's 'Hudna' is over, time for more incursions into the Disputed Territories. Enough with the poking and prodding of the IDF there. It's working somewhat, but there has to be a completion of the barrier, as in replacing the chain link fence, for the most part, and replacing it with a concrete barrier. Only way to work. I'll start a fundraiser.

It would be appreciated if someone can give an intelligent answer, without jokes. Arabs represent that there is equality among the sexes. A male Shahid is promised 72 Virgins for his martyrhood. A female, is she entitled to 72 Male Virgins? This has always puzzled me.

leaders, who don't have the courage to load themselves with explosives and carry out the homicide themselves. Have you noticed, it's always the young and eager that do the dirty work? The leaders are fat and well groomed, encouraging the misguided to act. People claim they've hungry, Haniyeh looks like Porky Pig.

Experience has proven that most posters that assume full Jewish names are cowards hiding the fact that they're not Jewish. Rosgarten is a Jewish as your nieghborhood mosque.

To the contrary, it's a timely reminder that the Egyptian border area deserves it's very own protective wall. In desperation, the homicidal maniacs have been forced to attempting to circumvent the "Wall". Opening other crossing points only afford homicidal maniacs easier entry.

American citizens have been murdered by the degenerates that strap on bombs. Leave the checkpoints and security fence up until the Palestininans make the choice of killing those who are dispatched to murder civilians.

Do you mean Jewish Character is ugly? What?s your opinion about pals character, always attempting to kill Jews? I do not believe you can say nice things about people who want to kill you. (I am not Jewish and my character is also ugly, by your standards)

It's very simple. It will never change. The Qur'an is finalized, no changes, blind obedience is the only thing tolerated. It's just like Hitlers book mein kampf. All discussions back and forth are futile. Stop discussing anything but what their law states. That is why this is happening. There will never be peace and stability as long as their belief system exists. Let's not be blind for the truth one more time.

Just Curious, looks like we had similar thoughts at a similar time. It just doesn't make any sense from a strategic point of view, does it...?? With regard to the Quassam-brigades, they used to be quite disciplined, but to be honest, I have not enough insight in order to judge whether this is still the case today. If they wouldn't have made this statement, I would have suspected one of the other militant/terror groups behind it, Islamic Jihad or Al Aksa brigades. Or maybe there is even an Al Kaida branch in Gaza, who knows. But with the Quassam brigades statement this thing looks really strange.

They are serving your government, which said they will continue their armed struggle.

The pal terrorists have already given their response. According to their charters, that man was not innocent but an occupier, the pal terrorists are on jihad, under which circumstances nobody is a civilian.

"Question: Can Palestinians trust Abbas to stand up - or does he bow to the West?" It depends who you ask(Fatah or Hamas), it's clear Abbas is Washington's guy and as a result a cloud of suspecion hangs over him. The majority here don't like him and view him a stooge. The bottom line is this, we are all pawns of much larger players. The powers to be want civil strife, they will get it. Look at Iraq, prior to the American invasion, no civil war, Sunni's and Shia's lived together and fought and died together in their war against Iran. Now thanks to the Mossad and CIA, civil war is brewing. Look at Lebanon, efforts to cause civil strife there as well by Israel, America and France. We are ALL pawns of these creatures. America wants Dahlan in government because they know he is hated by everyone--specifically Hamas. Now he is in charge of a department created by the Americans, how original, called National Security Advisor. So to answer your question, I don't know if we can resist Zionist and American pressure but I know we will never stop trying. Abbas is irrelevant in the bigger scheme of things and will soon be gone. We know ZOG is grooming Dahlan but we shall see what his future holds. One thing for sure, sadly, expect this conflict to only get hotter and more messy.

Dino, and all of the others feigning naivete, the article clearly states: 1 "Hamas claimed responsibility for shooting an Israeli...." 2 "Palestinian student...confessed to belonging to Hamas, which he said intended to provide him with an explosive belt and instructions to cross into Israel." Anything about this not clear enough for anyone? Just in case it is not clear enough: Hamas is part, and an offshoot of, the Muslim Brotherhood whose aim is jihad, and the liberation of all Waqf lands, including Israel through jihad. Under their ideology, you convert or die. Al Zawahiri, Al Qaeeda's number two man, is the most notorious member of the Brotherhood.

I know what you mean, the Jews are occupiers of Israel. Do you abide by hamas or any other pal terrorist organization?s charter? What the does the Mossad have to take revenge for?

What are you people wonder about a new attack. I know its stinks like that unity government they try to endorse. Where and when anybody noticed unity among Arabs please don?t make me laugh. As a result of Yasser Arafat (rest in peace) peaceful intentions and noble price two generations of brainless fanatics infested Palestinian territories and ready to fight for whatever because there is nothing else they can do. Even if unity government will ask the world to outsource some manufacturing in order to start some economy there is not in off work force to do so. Personally I feel bad because we need prosperous Israel AND ITS COMING! Just sorry I am not part of it.

Lynn, it's very well possible that one of the splinter groups of Hamas was responsible for those criminal actions today. If yes, they can expect a few slaps in the face (if not bullets) tonight. With regard to Hanijehs "resistance" comments: He should better shut up and leave the talking to Abbas....

Do you expect the government to arrest itself?

You are right, they are goods. But would you take that kind of goods at home?

Actually any spin you put on it is very clearly biased. So, instead of being curious, you have an opinion already and it is certainly anti-Israel.

Yeah, right. I remember how many people were blown up before the checkpoints were in place. Lots of Americans and Israelis. Lots of tourists. Kids on buses going to school. People are not as stupid as you think. Great gov you jackasses elected.

A woman trying to stab an Israeli. This is why there are women jailed in Israel because they are also involved in terrorist activities.

Q: Who is in control in the PA? Ans: Noone.

This is what they want the money of the international aid for. Stop funding terror.

The militants of Hamas, now in office, trying to blow themselves up killing others and shooting at Israelis. Hasn?t it been declared a rogue state yet?

and Hamas is making sure there are dead bodies. Congratulations on your idiotic Unity Gov. and thank the Saudis too. What a bunch of morons you people truly are.

They have prevented that terrorist from murdering many people. Many thanks. Keep up the good work.

65% of the Palestinians say they condone these attacks on Israelis. Go figure. www.metimes.com

I can't endorse the "Zionist" rhetoric, Joe, but then again - I don't live in Ramallah. But I do tend to wonder how anyone who wanted negotiations to succeed would commit such acts. I also know full well that Israel and my own government can be very determined when they don't want something to happen. Our own Department of State (Condi Rice)has given numerous warnings about how bad it would be to the "peace process", if a Unity government were actually formed. Question: Can Palestinians trust Abbas to stand up - or does he bow to the West? That's just something else I wonder about - and we have NO unbiased news here. I would be interested in Palestinian opinions on that issue.

Israel should open all the checkpoints in the West Bank and allow everyone to come through. This move by Israel will garner worldwide goodwill and show that Israel can be fair to the Palestinians. So if some Arab crazies come in and blow themselves up it's a small price to pay to make Israel look like humanitarians. It worked in Israel's favor when they pulled out of Gaza and no suicide bombers have come through from Gaza as a result. Also rockets fired from Gaza into Israel only killed a symbolic two Israelis.

I find the timing suspect, a day after a unity government became official, but in any case I condemn it "IF" true. Palestinians need to make sure efforts by Zionists to sabotage the ceasefire and the fragile unity we have today are not successful. We all know Shin Bet and Mossad operatives are at this very moment working on ways to reverse the progress made by Palestinian factions. It's not like it's a secret when Haaretz headlines quote Zionist MK:" Israel must torpedo unity government". You can take this to the bank, as momentum towards PEACE increases, Zionists get VERY nervous. The Arab summit is coming up, Zionists fear CALM in the territories and fear EU position towards unity government softening, we all know what is next, Zionist leadership NEEDS DEAD JEWS on the front pages of newspapers to change the dynamic. This is the truth, the whole truth and nothing else but the truth. All this calm in Zion is getting these demons nervous!!

The circumstances you reference are exactly why it seems so improbable to me.(see my post #40) So much is risked and there is nothing to gain - if this strategy was authorized by Hamas. I am, however, a bit uncertain of the relationship of Hamas and the other factions - splinter groups? - like Qassams Brigade, etc. Can you do a quick tutorial? Anyone?

Just curious; things are complicted, parsing Hamas is like defining what "is" "is"--the order might be tacitly approved by way of Meshal in Syria who, some claim, has ultimate command over the Armed Brigades. But, for Israel's security needs, this is of limited importance. As an entirety--what can be expected from Hamas qua Hamas inclusively--their contribution to the unity government could be to offer barely lip service to negotiation while continuing armed attacks according to their own biological clock.

But Chanah - why would the Israeli's wait until just after the election of Haniyeh to make a big deal of withholding the funds? "Because they would go to weapons anyway?" or.........because they must be punished for the candidate of their choice in the elections?

I believe it was Haniyeh's comment about "resistance". It was stupid at best for him to start off his speech condoning any and all types of resistence as legal. What did you expect? Of course it has made international news and I'm pretty sure it sunk the Hamas ship today.

Well, in my estimation, Haniyeh with his dumb "resistance" statement sort of got the ball rolling again. Don't you remember? Of course, no one on the Gaza will be arrested. What amazes me is that anyone believed him in the first place. Their charter speaks loud and clear. I've taken the time to read it.

I think "NO". Does Leon Rosgarten feels that his message #2 is not truthful? - I think "YES". Has Leon Rosgarten any compassion for a wounded Israeli, the worker? - I think "NO". Why Leon Rosgarten had sent his untruthful message #2? - I REALLY DON'T KNOW!!!!!!

Nadav, please try to think logical. Both the alleged Hamas suicide bomber and the shooting incident today simply make no sense. Hamas may have a dangerous ideology, but they are usually not stupid. Do you really believe that the Hamas leadership wanted to have this kind of "action", exactly on the day when the first European country (Norway) has "broken" the Hamas boycott, and other countries may be on the brink of doing so. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe for a second that Hamas has all of a sudden decided to fall in love with Israelis. But the 2 events of today are simply not in Hamas strategical interest. Not at all.

"Well, we should have many Hamases back in 1948...perhaps israel wouldn`t have seen light." or perhaps the ME would be a region without wars if Romans did not have that stupid idea of changing the name Judea for Philistine,later Palestine or Syria Palestina.See? The name itself changed but the true owner remains the same.The Jews :-)

Hard to tell the difference between the two fools. They both have pretty much the same views. Fool, what do you think the effect of a terrorist attack on Israeli infrastructure would be? Love and kisses? How many Palestinians do you want to see killed just so that you can work through your ideological stupidity. It is people like you and your namesake that stoke the conflict with your bs.

Looks like the Hamas trash had a sleeper terrorist in waiting: "The 21-year-old Palestinian student was interrogated by Egyptian police and confessed to belonging to Hamas, which he said intended to provide him with an explosive belt and instructions to cross into Israel"

To KM - So you believe that if there was Hamas in 1948 "Israel wouldn't have seen light'. The Six Day War in 1948 was an actual war when four/five Great Arab Armies attacked Israel in order to destroy her and one by one they lost that war. Hamas up tp now does not use authentic war tactics which is fighting in mutual combat. Hamas uses terror tactics but even then they would have been wiped out at the time.

... shoot at Israeli civilians in assistance of those transporting food, medical, petrol and other supplies into the Gaza Strip. It is the same Hamas that has called the Palestinian Arabs, upon the installation of the new government of theirs that they should continue the "resistance", euphemism for acts of terror, and that their aim is the liberation of "occupied Palestine", euphemism for the entire land between the river and the sea, including the sovereign state of Israel. This is the Hamas, the same Hamas that is the largest and strongest component both politically and militarilly of the Palestinian Arab "new" government, and the one that has refused to adhere to the three demands of the international community, but beg the very same community to assist it financially. So that it will continue to use the funds in the perpetuation of the war of terror against civilians instead of trying to assist the Arabs of Eretz Israel and try to bring about an accomodation with Israel.

It's good to see Egypt actually take a real step in stemming terrorism and, of course, we'd like to see Egypt do a much better job preventing smuggling of suicide bombers and other weaponry. We still are waiting to be compensated for seizing our property, businesses, bank acounts, and homes from being kicked out of Alexandria in 1949. We don't want a "right of return" but do want a "just" compensation just like what is sought by "Palestinian" refugees.

Eating an ice cream cake while insisting on the right to not gain weight.

Its time to cut there pwoer there not paying for it anyways and we are. Why should we pay for there power they refuse to work. We leave them hundreds of green houses they destroy them. Starting to believe these guys just dont want to work period. Unless it has something to do with shooting a Jew or blowing some people up, or kid napping or bus bombing, or bombing a cafe or so on and so on and so on. CUT THE POWER TO GAZA NOW. Let them produce there own, they do want there own country let them sponser it.

No Israel does not colllect fees and taxes FROM the Palestinians. They don't even collect fees for the electricity they provide to Gaza. The collect VAT on behalf of the Palestinians for exports and according to previous agreements should hand them over. But as the Palestinains are not very good about keeping their part of agreements, and as the money would go for weapons ayway, Israel decided to withold them.

you fabricate factsd, or cannot read, or cannot understand what you read. The shooting was on Israeli territory. The victim was an employee of Israel's Electric Company (a civilian) who was probably fixing something to do with supply of electricity to Gaza. The perpetrators wer terrorists belonging to that nice peaceful governemnt whose leaders look so civilized in their armani suits, talking out of ten sides of their mouths. What is so justified about this shooting? What great victory have the Palestinians gained by it? Does it provide any of their unemployed with a new, good job? DOes it feed their hungry? Has another child learned something new that would help it on its way to a better future? Those are the questions you should be asking.

Israel is at war with with Hamas and she better understand it and act like it or the next rain of missile attacks will be both from Lebanon and Gaza. The Hamas "unity" govenment needs to be destroyed and their terrorist leaders arrested or eliminated. Giving Gaza back did not bring peace and Israel should be prepared to reclaim whatever part of it is necessary for her security. Don't expect any help from xenophobic and anti-semitic Europe. American help is a possibility with a Republican victory next year.

Hold it in Gaza or Ramallah. Have all wanna-be suicide bombers gather in a Palestinian meeting hall. They should discuss ways they could bomb and mame innocent people. They shoudl show off their new advancements in suicide belts (i.e. adding screws and ballbearings to maximize impact). They should talk about their fight and all that garbage. Then Israel should drop tonnes of cement on the building and lock all of those idiots up forever and ever amen.

"17:50 Egyptian FM calls claims Egypt killed Israeli POWs in 1973 war `absurd` (AP) " Absurd, my foot. There are are surviving POWs to prove this claim.

Unless I am mistaken, the Israeli government collects fees and taxes from the Palestinians. Aren't those some of the funds that have been withheld? If so, then it's a case - not of giving to Gaza - but of fulfilling a responsibility that they owe to the citizens. Don't you see some incongruity in a portion of Palestinian funds collected by the Israeli's being used to subsidize settlers living on Palestinian lands??

Duv Dovine is not a Mossad unit; it is an IDF infantry unit. You don't know as much as you'de like people to think you know.

Do the Qassam Brigades receive their agenda from Foreign Minister Haniyeh - or do they make up their own? I cannot believe that this is the direction Haniyeh would choose to go. Some members of the Quartet have been considering reinstating aid to Gaza since the forming of the Unity government. What possible benefit could he derive from approving these terrible events? Thoughtful responses only - please.

The Egyptians didn't say "Hamas" suicide bomber, it said Palestinians. Are Israelis obssessed with Hamas? Well, we should have many Hamases back in 1948...perhaps israel wouldn't have seen light.

It just surprises me that an educated man like Ehud Olmert will call Hamas' shooting terrorism considering it was on Gazas property. Olmert does not call the IDFS actions in occupied territory terrorism, so why this? Also about the would be "suicide bomber" I just dont see that making any sence, why would Hamas, who has been abiding by a long truce, result to terrorism when the world is very close to accepting them? Sounds a little False Flaggish to me.

I hope the Israeli man recovers quickly. These recent terror attacks remind us why the checkpoints and security fence as neccessary to preserve lives as Palestinian leaders believe it is moral to target Israeli civilians.

God bless this Egyptian man for his conscience! He has saved the lives of innocent people. Thanks to the Egyptians for arresting the Palestinian. I hope he receives life in prison. "The would-be suicide bomber spent most of his time in El-Arish and rarely attended college in Cairo, Badr said. Ahead of his suicide attack, he had planned to donate a kidney to an Egyptian man. This man tipped authorities about Abdel-Salam's plans, police said."

I never realized Rishon Le Tzion (First To Zion), referred to locally as 'Rashlatz', was considered 'Occupied Palestine'; I was under the impression it was a thriving Israeli town! One minute its the '67 border', the next its 'armistice lines', & so on. Perhaps Mr. Rosgarten (very Arab sounding name), or someone else would care to enlighten us?? At least the Egyptians are doing their bit....

The AbbasHamas "unity" government, claiming a "right-of-resistance" has now officially demonstrated to the world through its spokesman what this "right" means -- shooting an Israeli electric company worker on Israeli soil as an official act of Hamas. Israel now unambiguously has the right under International law and UN Charter #51 to cut off from Gaza the supply of Israeli electricity -- and should do so. They can not be compelled to further risk their citizens lives to provide Gaza a service they didn't have prior to 1967, and thus are not lawfully entitled to in the first place. Obviously, the same holds true for water supply, fuel and access to Israel's ports, also provided only after 1967. No "collective punishment", its not Gaza's right to begin with. 100% sqeeky-clean legal.

Thanks Norway, thanks Europe/Eurabia....you have shown again what you have been always thinking...

Not so long ago, the pals, Clickfool & all the others, were banging on about how awful it was that Israel damaged a main electricity transformer in Gaza. Do they realise that the Israel Electric Co. built most of gaza's infrastructure? Astonishing that a gunman, representative of the ruling hamas party, should attempt to murder one of the company's employees. Astonishing that Israel continues to supply Gaza with ANY electricity, & indeed water, petroleum & other comodities, all with substantial subsidies, if not FOC. Yeah, this savage act is really going to help their cause...

now there is a unity government of Fatah and Hamas. But if they do not stop terrorist actions like this shooting, while also 2 Kassams where launched against Israel recently, what is the need to restart giving them money as they like to receive from EU and USA? We pray for the Peace of Jerusalem and hope the Pals will get wise leaders as soon as possible.

"We respect all agreements signed with you Israel, up to the point that we decide that you are committing, however we define it, 'crimes' against sthe Palestinian people and the we will rely on our right of 'resistance to occupation' by trying to kill you." Thanks.

WHY would anybody at the wonderful age of 21 kill himself? One has a whole future ahead of oneself. There is so much to live for at that age! WHAT on earth is going on in the mind of such a young person, who wears an explosive belt and is ready to die? THIS whole news is SO SICK! WHEN I look back at the time I was 21, my generation was making the world BETTER; we wanted to change the world for a more HUMANE place to LIVE in; we could hardly wait to start USING our lives for the GOOD of our immediate environment first and then the society, then the whole world! WHAT idealism is there in death? HOW does killing oneself make our world any better!? IF the present worldians think that planning to kill oneself would be in any way normal, it is NOT: it is as ABNORMAL as can be and it is SICK! I really cannot understand the suicide-recruiters, who are brainwashing and sending their own young people to their deaths! SHAME ON YOU!

They never stopped! Not only do they proudly claim responsibility for shooting an unarmed electrical worker who was trying to repair THEIR electrical grid, let's not forget the BBC reporter who was kidnapped by these morons and the 5 Kassams that landed in Israel as their latest coalition government was sworn in last week. They really do know how to impress important world visionaries like Norway into providing indefinite financial aid (sarcasm intended). What a brainless, dysfunctional gang of misfits.

"Blowing up an Israeli oil or gas pipeline..." Mr. Clickfool hasn't gotten away with this boring line for a long time. It means he's peeved. It also means the weakling Haaretz censor fell asleep at the wheel for allowing such childish incitement to get through. We're aware of the danger and do everything possible at high costs to prevent it. The very things that Clickfool wishes on the Jewish People here in Israel will sooner rather than later befall him and his country men. The Brits will come running to us, begging us to help them with our expertise. We will no doubt oblige and help apply the band aid. but it will be too late. The Islamo-Fascists will be too entrenched. I will sit back from the safety of my home in Israel, and enjoy the show.

That makes these actions acts of war.

A "fake Clickfool about ? " Even th "real" Clickfool is a fake so what's the difference? Speaking of fakes, forst a shooting at the Karni crossing and now a bomber ? Is this the new face of the peaceful "unity" government ? Meet the new boss ... same as the old boss.

Not worthy of a state. It will never be, Joel4:1-8. Fools paid by Iran they are. I have seen similar behaviors in a tribe of baboons on National Geographic.

I wish the injured refuah shalamah for a full and speedy recovery. This is who we are supposed to make peace with now they have a 'more moderate' cabinet? Funny how the BBC has not reported this incident.

If you want to compare like to like, you must imagine something like that. Israely government arms militia to shoot missels, just anywhere where arabs have houses or schools. Then it says, that they have no idea who did it, but it is all because of Kassams shooting at Isreal. Perhaps that is exactly what should be done?

ad 15: No, Dutch are not tolerant anymore today. They call it: shaded. Meaning: believe Pappe and deny Israel had enemies from its declaration of indepence. They only are tolerant for the Palestinians.

If this is the type of business that Hamas is actually proud of then Israel has every right to be proud of how it retaliates at the appointed time and place!

With their thousands of years of finessing (that word may be mispelled) Europeans have learned well how to say what they really feel without showing their hearts. By first calling the shooting "regretable" this European individual thinks he "washed his hands" of his anti-semitic words that follow. He walks along the fence not crossing this way or that (like the Swiss) parsing his words (like the British) and taking a seeming moral position without being willing to pay the price for it (like the French) but in the end he shows his true anti-semitic heart (like the Germans). I'm Arab but I can't stand Euro trash talk even when it tries to "sympathize" with me.

Thanks No(r)way for backing terrorists and the criminals of Hammas and Fatah!! Thanks a lot for your cooperation and you delivery of money to buy guns, weapons and to 70-virgens pro-terrorist...thanks, thanks a lot!

are clever, honest. But you forgat,Denmark is invaded by Arab/ Muslims.So you can expect a lots of stupidity even from there. And if they do not wake up, soon they will become DENMARKSTAN.

I'd like to see the PM's of Spain, Finland, Norway and Italy explain how they can consider talking to Hamas-run terrorist government. Is the shooting of an unarmed Israel civilian at the only economic life-line in Gaza furthering Palestinian goals of a state? When the crossing is repeatedly attacked and Israel has to close it, they will be the first to cry foul. What about the Abbas' condemnation? I must have missed it. Where is the "good King" Hussein of Jordan constantly pointing to his "moral goodness" while continuing to point his finger only at Israel? If this is what passes for moderation, Israel has really no peace partners. The saddest thing is that its the ordinary non-Hamas, non-Fatah Palestnians who will suffer because of the Hamas-sponsored terror and European hypocracy. They are still without an economy, law-and-order, or government institutions - Hamas forgot to spend any money on anything but terror.

Hamas should condemn the attack on the electrical worker. Likewise, the government of Israel should condemn attacks on innocent Palestinian women and children. It's important that the world condemns both types of behavior and does not get 'suckered in' by either the Palestinians or the Israelis.

...you just might get it. As you correctly noted: "We Palestinians should decide if we want to continue or stop permenantly or temporarily the armed strugle against Israel. And question who are these militants working for?..." The problem is that the Palestinians voted overwhwelmingly for Hamas in the last election. With choice comes responsibility. Contrary to what many Palestinians claim, the Western world is not is 'punishing' you for exercising your democratic rights -rather we holding you accountable for your choices. Freedom doesen't come without a price. You elected these 'militants' by a huge majority - Now live with the consequences of the mandate you gave them -or, use the tools of democracy to wage peace. The ball is in your court. No excuses any more. Cheers.

Keep posting.

Vittorio, in a forum like this, anybody can call himself 'Dutch', 'Palestinian' or 'Israeli'. Such small lies do not really matter. Progress and peace do not depend on cultural or national identities, but, rather, on actions of (moral) responsibility and accountability. Unfortunately, most Dutch individuals lack a moral awareness, largely because it is deemed uneconomical to teach philosophy in public schools. As a result, there were only a few heroes during WWII, and Holland as a whole did not stand up against the Nazi's crimes. In complicity with the German occupier, close to 90% of the Dutch Jews were murdered (the highest percentage, after Poland). Do not be angry. Aside from hitting back when people strike you, compassion is really the best way to teach the world how peace could work.

Seven years later, and now you've figured it out?

without compromise.About a week ago remember. Sad for the upcoming dead and wounded and damaged lives and property. Fine for Iran.

When I visit this page and read so-called comments which reflects hatred and enmity toward humanity. Is it not there anybody who has a piece of love and peace??!! Just some cliche words that are kill, destroy, terrorist and etc. Who are you? Where did you come from??? What is your aim? To destroy humanity as blaming them of being enemy?? So funny. So-called writers of comments in this page show their ugly faces only...

My grandfather came from the Netherlands. I'm very reasonable in my assessments.

It's the nutter who specialises in the "Mossad" messages. I deplore attacks on any innocent civilians, Israeli or Palestinian. They serve no purpose. Blowing up an Israeli oil or gas pipeline or two would have proved far more damaging to the State of Israel.

Gaza Strip and the Arabs there shoot the Israelis. It is time to close the border, no, lock it, and throw the keys away!!

The ceasefire is clearly finished,if it ever started.If Hamas cannot even keep to a simple,clear committment like a ceasefire,which,after all only requires them not to fire,what trust can be put in any Hamas undertaking?It seems that any Hamas statement is only tactical,and the element of truth is simply lacking. Any Israeli government that relies on Hamas committments is composed of fools.I fear that the whole PA project has failed,and may have to be terminated.

Palestinian as long as you see Israel as your enemy there is no chance for peace in the region.Stop looking for pretext to kill and try to find a solution for lasting peace instead.You killed people in Jordan,Lebanon and now it's Israel's turn.Can't you people live in peace?Give peace a chance.

The unified palestinian government just declared: We are for peace! But, if you do not what we say we will kill you. The logic of the Palestinians is: We will achieve our goals by any means. Hamas, Islamic Jihad and even Fatah are a bunch of Mafia like thugs who will do anything without any regrets in order to achieve their objectives. And the Palestinian population keeps silent...This shooting does not have anything to do with the Israeli controled Karni crossing. It is about their non acceptance of the Jewish State to exist.

You overwhelmingly voted for two terrorist organizations, Fatah and Hamas, in the last election. The party calling for nonviolent means was completely trounced. You made your choice, to continue terrorism. You've made that very clear.

- The first one is just 'Dutch', mentally challenged person from Mass, USA (whose real name is Doris Cadigan). - The second one is Dutch Dirk, mentally close to Doris Cadigan. - Usually Dutch people are very reasonable, clever and honest. Will we see here representatives of real Dutch people?

You, Palestinian, ask: " Who are these militants serving?" - The latest clarification: "Hamas claims shooting of Israeli near Gaza". - Are you happy, Palestinian?

Is he another victim of Arab propagandists who brainwashed own population to the point that they now believe that Palestine has been there for millennia despite the fact that Palestine is Judea and belongs to Jews or is he a victim of an attempt to terrorize public workers and drive them away so Arabs living in Ghaza can demonize Israel for bad public service ?

Let them get Electricity and Water from Egypt and the Arab League. Hitnakut means seperation, so seperate already. They smuggle money, soldiers and weapons from Egypt. They can just as easily bring electricity, water and whatever else they need. And if you want to give them something, give shoot them back their bullets, kassems and whatever else they shoot.

We Palestinians should decide if we want to continue or stop permenantly or temporarily the armed strugle against Israel. And question who are these militants working for? We must be clear about that, otherwise, we would be serving our enemy.

Israeli civilias are not in the habit of planting bombs anywhere, let alone near the border.

live in GAZA among GAZANS. L.Rosgarten would repeat path of the kidnapped BBC correspondent (the best case). It really helps to cure mentality and to value real democracy.

First of all: It is very regretable that this innocent man got shot. Secondly: What if the man had been a Palestinian and got shot by the IDF. The IDF response would have been: We saw this man passing too close to the 'fence' and he was apparently on its way to committ a terroristic act in Israel. So Israelis you may ask what you get? Dont walk anywhere near by a fence these days. The PA may very well see you as a undercover commando of the IDF, on its way to kill Palestinians?

He was not in occupied territory, now was he? Your comment proves your ignorance about and false assumptions about anything re Israel. Besides which, why does an Israeli who steps on Gazan soil deserve to die?

If this individual was not in the Occupied Territories, he would not have been shot, now would he? Presumably, the Mossad's undercover unit ("Duv Dovine") revenge attack will not be far behind. How many innocent Palestinian will die in this next round?

Start applying for your visas and passports.

3 attempted homicide/suicide bombings, Qassams firing, snipers, kidnappings, attempted kidnappings, UN aid workers not safe in Gaza, snipers. Pals running true to form. Wonder when the Pal Gov. will arrest the perpetrators?

Why is there so much denial over what Haniyeh said? He is Hamas this is Hamas "resistance"

A timely reminder that Israel must open this terminal for the free flow of goods.