E-mail snub to Israel by Prince Charles' aides sparks furor

who really cares what prince Charles thinks after all he didn't care what the people felt like when he refused to give up his mistress, caused diana to flip her wig, who wouldn't! and the queen is no better, is this the exsample she sets, her father must be rolling over in his grave. get rid of all of them or make William king.

In addition to the email of turning the ROYAL Visit into an ADVANTAGE, as a bargaining chip for military co-operation between England and Israel, Israel could provide intelligence of terrorist attacks to prevent bombings like the underground train bombs that killed 52 civilians and the bus explosion in England.

You ducked it and ran away--My response is in another thread--

i posted this elsewhere aready...and i'll be posting this to you every time you bring it up, ben~ because like i told you before; you pick and chooose the passages in it that serve YOUR argument...and I pick and choose those that serve mine...and we both know that my thoughts will never penetrate your hatred...and we both know that your hatred will never influence my thoughts...so the discussion is moot...and one that i don`t have the energy to pursue with someone as close-minded as you. so you can rant and rave, like you always do, about talking me into a corner...like you do with everyone who grows tired of responding to the steadfast rhetoric of someone who refuses to even read what`s being said before unleashing another set of "facts" that do not address what has been said. try responding sometime to something that`s said; instead of just spewing out more of the same hatred. maybe then we`ll discuss the koran says about christianity and judaism. MAYBE then, ben. but until then...do us both a favor and stop haranguing me about it like a broken record; because i`m telling you right now that i won`t; not until YOU learn that there`s there`s two sides to every issue and a discussion requires "dialogue" and is NOT just the persistent spiel of your OWN arguments without ever "directly" addressing the opposing point of view. in other words, ben...if you lack the decency to respect MY point of view enough to direct your responses toward it instead of responding with insults and repetitious tirades of hate; then "talk to the hand" ben, because i`ll not be wasting my time on you. so yup...i guess you`ve just talked me into a corner, ben... now go ahead and inflate like a rooster among his hens... fluff your feathers and strut while you beat your chest... but remember that the only ones you`re fooling are yourself and them.

I displayed that knowledge each and every time I exposed you---Most recently about the Koran and the Suras of hate, and your allegation about me in another thread--Still waiting for you to come back with some facts instead of vacous rhetoric--

as for knowledge?; you've yet to demonstrate that.

I replied to it elsewhere -- You made the same query twice--

"What I am trying to say is the autopsies are not infalliable--On TV they find out the truth inside of an hour, actually less because of commercials" LOL!! Yes, but what about those factual documentaries like Forensic Files and Cold Case Files...I read once that in about half of the deaths which are autopsied the wrong cause of death is written on the death certificate... Ben, you didn't reply to my post #609....? I posted to you about Prince Charles, who sits on his estate in Scotland wearing his kilt and waits for his mother's death..keep waiting, Charlie, because the Queen's mother lived to be 102 and the Queen herself is in excellent health..Charlie won't see the throne anytime in the next 15 to 20 years despite all his hoping...perhaps he'd better try black magic or something...Israel should not take any notice of what he says; no-one in England ever does...

my post--They left out the body--Look at #612, they put that one through--

Somehow, the body of my original post vanished enroute--Think of Stacey Peterson, her husband is a cop--She vanished--The story is in the news EVERY day--The third wife was supposed to have died drowning in a tub--Autopsy had a finding of accidental death--New Autopsy of Dr. Baden, said it was murder--What I am trying to say is the autopsies are not infalliable--On TV they find out the truth inside of an hour, actually less because of commercials--Whether he was or was not dragged into the house, I do not think would be much of a factor--Meanwhile,I am not going to worry about it--

"If you shoot him on your stoop, drag him over the doorsill, into the house--Last but most important, make certain he cannot testify against you--I will leave you to guess how tht would be done" Yes, but here's the thing; if you drag him into the house, the police will notice the body has been moved, and surely that is going to make the homeowner suspect...why not leave it where it is, by the front door, that will indicate that the person was in fact breaking in...

"I just want you to know, the only person I allow to use !!!! is my wife---I respect her because she is close at hand and carries a .22..Besides that, we have a lot of years invested in each other" What does the above mean? We were talking about Nick Ferriman not replying to your posts, then you wrote the above...I am now a confused person...explain please???

Just one last thought about someone breaking in--A cop friend of mine once told me two basic things to be done if someone breaks in--First don't shoot him in the back--That would indicate he was leaving and no longer a danger-- If you shoot him on your stoop, drag him over the doorsill, into the house--Last but most important, make certain he cannot testify against you--I will leave you to guess how tht would be done--

Russian, German, Greek and English Royal houses were from one family--Leading to the inbreeds we see in Jolly Old England--Charlie is a the result of not being careful--

Brains and knowledge of the situation--

If you took the time to understand, you would see that each time I encounter Ferriman, he gets backed into a corner and cannot respond-- He is like you, makes statements which cannot be backed up--I am eagerly awaiting your refutations of the Koranic hate verses--Do NOT mention hatred and bigotry, you only have to look at your ignorant self in the mirror--Don't forget, refute the Koran Suras that I posted, if your ignorant self can--

Did you know the Antichrist will be a Prince "And the people of the other prince who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood; and even to the end there shall be war, and desolations are decreed." (Daniel 9:26b, Parallel Bible, KJV/Amplified Bible Commentary) Both Charles and William are Princes. The Antichrist will promise peace, but will destroy instead -- "and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many" (Dan 8:25) The Antichrist will sign a covenant with Israeli leaders, a covenant which many Bible scholars believe will usher in the false peace of the first part of the Tribulation Period - "And he shall enter into a strong and firm covenant with the many for one week [seven years] ... (Daniel 9:27b, Parallel Bible, KJV/Amplified Bible Commentary) This issue of Prince Charles saying that he will not visit Jerusalem until and unless a peace agreement has been signed is a very interesting development?

you should know ben by now... pay close attention to ferriman's comments; and watch ben fluster...bluster...and try his best to muster an answer... then resort to his typical ben jabo tirade of accusations and unconnected incoherent claims. one of which is the hit run thing...lol... not everyone has time to go on endlessly... and most people here come and go as they have time...or interest...or the internal fortitude to deal with disenchantment brought by the hatred and bigotry and closed minds that are encountered in these talkbacks. and some return more often than others...and then there are those who thrive on expressing their hatred and bigotry...and closed minds. THEY are the ones who never miss a moment's chance...and they exist on both sides of the issue. sorry... just unloading a few thoughts... ferriman is pretty straight forward and concise...and his points as far as i've seen, are completely valid... lol...and ben doesn't like straight forward and concise and valid...he prefers stereotypes, innuendo, propaganda, and "because i said so". ben just doesn't have the nails to "nail ferriman to the wall". all he has is a hammer and a sore thumb.

You would know better than I--Is it true that Prince Charles has become a religious person-- I had heard that as part of his nightime prayers he prays for his mother to pass and leave him the throne before his passes away..?? Sort of reminds me of the girls who is always a bridesmaid, never a bride--

clearly indicates I have nailed him--I just want you to know, the only person I allow to use !!!! is my wife---I respect her because she is close at hand and carries a .22..Besides that, we have a lot of years invested in each other--

I believe I told you this before--When I lived in Brooklyn, I took a bus to work--On a hot summer day (before a/c on busses) I left my window partially open, about to shoulder level--Somebody threw a rock, hit the window which acted as a shield--Next case, I was driving a stick shift car, going through a bad neighborhood, window open, no a/c, a kid threw a rock, hit the car, I took my foot off the gas, car stalled, I ran after the kid--A girl of about 18-20 came over to me and said, "Oh, they all do that", as if to justify the rock throwing---As a matter of fact, in that same area, public projects were under construction, the builder put mesh over the window so they wouldn't get broken before anyone had a chance to move in--

"If you should ever get involved in an accident with Ferriman, make certain you take all the particulars--As my past experience with him has shown, he is strictly a hit and run artist--Once he is confronted with facts, he vanishes from the scene--It has happened time and again, and you can be certain I have it in my files--" !!!! Why can't you nail him to the wall before he makes his escape??

I agree with your statement that it would depend in which state the shot-stone thrower was..in Connecticut when I came here there was a guy, Michael Ross, on death row for killing eight teenage girls and altogether it took 20 years for him to get the needle, and even then, he had to petition the court himself asking them to stop appeals from outside people on his behalf! This is a total travesty-Ted Bundy was in the chair in Florida in five years. I hope both of them are burning in hell forever and even that is too good for them. "Just hope nobody ever hits your car with a rock, you will not be calm, cool and collected--Far from it!!!" Where I live sometimes kids throw potatoes at cars..when that happened to me I got out of the car and chased the kid down the road...couldn't catch him though...I was boiling furious...

If you should ever get involved in an accident with Ferriman, make certain you take all the particulars--As my past experience with him has shown, he is strictly a hit and run artist--Once he is confronted with facts, he vanishes from the scene--It has happened time and again, and you can be certain I have it in my files--

Personally, I believe that if the fellow was shot for throwing stones, it would depend on the jurisdiction and location of the court--It's not just Texas, a lot of the Southern states treat housebreakers the same--If he entered at night, he knew the odds were you would be home, and his thoughts would have been to do harm if was detected--But, that has nothing to do with rock throwing--You might check some of the stories where rocks were thrown from highway overpasses, breaking the windshield, hitting the driver, causing injuries or fatalities--Remember, David killed Goliath with a small stone that hit between the eyes--As a matter of fact, shepherds no matter where they tend their flocks, are quite adept at using a slingshot to defend the sheep--Just hope nobody ever hits your car with a rock, you will not be calm, cool and collected--Far from it!!!

I think a picture is sometimes worth a thousand words, and over the years a number of heads of states have been photographed cuddling up to the Saudis - 'heads' who often shun Israel. Of course, some try to play both sides. The only thing worse than the royal family's apparent hypocrisy is the attitude of many British Jews, who are dyed in the wool royalists. To these I say, 'Stop making excuses for this family, and stop accepting titles from them!

Ben, with regards to your post to Nick Ferriman, what do you think would be a court's decision here in America if a civilian shot another civilian who was throwing or starting to throw a stone at him? I've never seen a case like this on CourtTV or Forensic Files or Cold Cases (which I watch a lot) and am wondering what the law would decide in a case like this. Do you remember several years ago there was a case in which a Japanese exchange student dressed in a costume walked through the door of a private house at night and the homeowner shot him dead? I read about this, it was in Texas I think, and it was ruled justifiable homicide and the homeowner was received no punishment, which I think was correct. It is very understandable that at night, seeing a stranger coming in your door, you'd defend your home...

After the world was destroyed by water, the only people left were Noah and his wife (Shem's mother), and his three sons Shem, Japeth and Ham, and their three wives. Shem's descendants by and large are the people of the Middle East, including both Arabs and Israelites, rightly, all are Semites. To refer to Jews only as Semites goes against the Jewish Bible. There is large element of racism in this, while it rightly appears in the West that Anti-Semitism against the Jews is racist. Time to remove the confusion on this by correct terminology. Many Jews also incorrectly refer to themselves as Ashkenazim. The original Ashkenazi in the Jewish Bible was of Japeth, a European; thus if Jews [Israelites] are Ashkenazim, it is because their ancestors married Europeans. Israelites are called God's Chosen people because they were chosen to be Missionaries and Messianic by Him. Japeth's people were the original Europeans. Ham's people were the Africans. JI aka Yussef Gideon, San Antonio, TX

It is well known that the Prince is Arabesque. He once published a book showing that preference in art forms. All good Christians should support Israel against all enemies foreign and domestic. Jesus says who is a good Christian, reportedly right after death. El elohe Israel. El eloi Israel. God is the God of Israel. God, my God, is the God of Israel. We are given a lifetime to repent. If however, that does not occur, though it is Jesus' say so, most will go to Hell if unrepented. Brauch ata Adonai. Blessed be the Lord. Pray for the Prince. Pray for Israel's leaders. Pray for me. Pray for all sinners in the name of the Israelite Messiah God, YHWH.

Let us assume for the moment, one or more of the five were members of YOUR family--It does not matter how many were killed, the intent was to kill as many as possible, since the Kassams were fired at civilian towns & villages---It seems that in your view 5 is a negligible numbers--To those families that suffered the loss, it is quite substanial-- Hamas gave the stone throwers the same treatment as the IDF did--All you had to do was read the news--A stone is a deadly as a bullet when it strikes the right place--Matter of fact, stone are used for execution of adulterers in quite a few Muslim countries--Iran in particular comes to mind. Do NOT attempt to use the old "Democracy" ploy-- Ask that question of me, and I'll tell you that he who threatens me with a stone will be treated as if he intends to kill me, which are his true intentions?Don?t tell me that I am to stand there and be a target---If they don't want to get killed for throwing stones, the solution is easy, DO NOT THROW THEM--Where in International Law does it say that stone throwing is permissible and immune from retaliation ?It is a form of deadly physical assault?Just tell me one thing, would the military or police in your country allow it..??..Please do not run away from this in your usual manner-- Ferriman: "Point four: do you, like the IDF, classify stone throwers as terrorists, and therefore can be shot dead? If so, where in International law does it say stone throwers can be shot dead? Or is this another case of Israel making up its own rules of engagement that have nothing to do with the obligations of modern secular democracy?

this is a interesting post you've made; which may be profoundly good, or horribly skewed; depending on its intent. so i'm compelled to ask if the "grace" you mention includes coming to terms with what is ACTUALLY "right" and following that path with conviction and "internal fortitude", etc... OR: do you mean that all jews should assume the arrogant and obnoxious attitude of those few who assume and claim their righteousness simply because they ARE jews? the first is of course a very noble suggestion for all people... but the latter...?

What utter rubbish Sam. I presume you are one of the 90% of Americans never owning a passport and, thereby, never having left Tennessee. Via a third party and, no doubt some Chinese whispers, it might appear Prince Charles doesn't have the ability to tackle Middle eastern politics head on. So what? Its a shame the comment came out but does the Middle East really need Prince Charles? I think not.

may i ask who cares what the "arab leaders" said before wwII? it is YOU and your ilk in your infinite ignorance who equate the palestinians with the arabs. and it is YOU and your ilk who made the palestinian people suffer for the acts of "arabs" against your ill-gotten state of israel. it is YOU and your ilk who have used the "arabs" and any act of aggression made by them, whether real or perceived, as an excuse drive the palestinians from their homes, occupy their land, and subject them to humiliation and oppression on a daily basis. you have alot of gall suggesting that anyone who opposes israel's crime and the PLOYS it uses to justify them! so tell me, "hypocrite in new york", what do YOU have to say about the many jews...some of whom actually "reside" in israel...who also despise israel's treatment of the palestinian people? "honest criticism"...you use the term so demurely; but you haven't a clue about its meaning!

you've just exemplified exactly what my post was saying about some people NOT being able to distinguish between the two.

i take it you're implying that i'm antisemitic because i disapprove of israel's crimes against the palestinian people... and you have proved my point quite nicely by your comment. impartial to what, victor? how would my writing to all these journals you've conjured prove my impartiality? "all african states"? "brazil"? "INDIA"!? jeesh victor...what sort of dark and twisted world do you live in? but never mind; i don't think i care to know. let me just ask you: IF... i'm an antisemite, like you imply, because of my opposition to israel's crimes; what have you to say about jews who feel the same... and what do say about the many "jewish" israelis, which YOU are not, who also think the same way? tell me victor; what do you have to say?

I completely agree with you LA - it is laughable to suggest that antisemitism is a serious problem in the UK (outside the Muslim population). In so far as British Jews are under threat it is as a result of assimilation not persecution. British Jews are well integrated into British society and have risen to high public office. It is hard to imagine there ever being a Muslim in Israel becoming Foreign Minister but nobody in the UK cares that the Foreign Secretary is Jewish. It simply is not an issue for the vast majority of British people.

Chris: You and HRH and his duplicitous aides deserve each other. And the altruistic British Empire didn't have blood on its hands?? No, they just conquered more than half the world by handing out scones and cucumber sandwiches.

All i can say is thankyou thankyou thankyou for beating Russia last night...made my day....toda raba Israel!!!!!!!

Dear Peter, Thank you for taking the time to rely to my post. In response to your standard remarks, here are six points: Point One: the Qassams have killed 5 people. From your logic, this equates to the hundreds killed each year by the promiscuous rules of engagement of the IDF. Point Two: how many Muslim victims have there been in Thailand? Or don?t they count? Point Three: two thirds of the children shot dead by the IDF were innocent bystanders who had nothing to do with the stone-throwing. But to the Israelis they are ?unter menschen?, so they have no rights, so it is okay to exterminate them. Point four: do you, like the IDF, classify stone throwers as terrorists, and therefore can be shot dead? If so, where in International law does it say stone throwers can be shot dead? Or is this another case of Israel making up its own rules of engagement that have nothing to do with the obligations of modern secular democracy? Point five: what appeal do the Palestinians have against the brutal 40-year Occupation of their lands by a callous and vindictive people? Point Six: despite the myth-making of a plucky little Israel fighting off the evil Muslims, it is Israel that has conducted a war ceaselessly on its neighbours. Only in 1973 did it not strike first. Regards

even the prince's mama won't let him touch the steering wheel of ruling the country, knowing what a shallow, hollow, myopic dunce he is. His 2 sons are apples that did not fall far from the tree...The prince is not needed in the ME. We have enough dupes there already. Time for the monarchy to go the way of the dinosaurs, albeit 50 years later than they should have. The prince is a proven heavy handed dolt who thinks he is more important than Isreal's proven triumphs and avoided tribulations, that it can handle without him and his entourage of playboys and their whoring women.

Hello England!Why don"t you just get out of the Falklands? You have no business occupying other people's land, a land 20,000 klm from your island.Anyway if you ever intend coming to Israel please don't bring that kamallia with you.We don't want our fair land to be desecrated by her presence!

Its time for every Israeli jew, and jews everywhere, to show more grace under attack. Grace comes from internal fortitude, belief in self, trust in your fellow jews, certainty in being in the right and on the side of eternal justice. Teach your children...

Yes, you and yours worked the primary and secondary markets; it was just business, of course. You say King David "was an attack of liberation movement against British occupiers" (er, your Benefactor). Well, I guess you then agree with the Pals right to liberate themselves by attacking the Zionist occupier. Well, that is simply wonderful, and since that is your view, I forgive you & yours for financing the Holocaust of slavery against blacks. Are you willing to forgive the Zionists who financed the Nazis and actively caused the death of countless Jews in order to occupy Palestine? Your posts don't indicate that. It sure was nice of Jews to support black civil rights since you & yours bear a good deal of responsibility by financing slave ships---can we expect reparations from Jews for our 300 year misery? Of course, we are willing to wait for funds until you re-fleece Germany for your victimhood. The wicked Zionists should kick in too. We are quite patient. Regard

A bag over the head takes care of ugly if there is need. I sent you the citations and I saw Israel won a pageant 32 years ago. So which pageants are you dreaming you and yours won? Back up yourself when you make such statements, otherwise it is BS. Bag women and homeless women are raped every day. As for posting you, well, you posted me. I thought you and I had agreed long ago when you were gnawing on me that I am not a consumer of your principle ware, which is BS. Finding Jesus didn't help your attitude any. As far as "hate" goes, you surely are a case of the black pot calling the kettle blacker. Only Kath outdoes your venom. Don't send me BS and I won't flip it back. Put a bag over your head and then check out your mirror. Regards.

"Any 13 year old british Kid could tell you that."-Chris Linthwaite An interesting curricculum you have over there in UK, Chris. Any 13 year old can tell you something about King David Hotel bombing, but apparently nothing about the Holocaust that was taken off the school program in History. It doesn't smell well, Chris.

big arab market.bigger muslim.poor and backward but very very slowly advancing and prospering.gulf states already filthy rich.little israel,noticeably deteriorating.why wouldn't bitsy u.k. sit on the fence until the natives have sorted it out?what would you have done?they do,after all have an ambassador and trade,touristic,cultural etc.etc.relationships.oh,and yes,they actualy built the state of israel virtually from scratch.

I have never been to Nablus but if the hospital is sub standard more time should be spent fixing it than hurling stones.The unfortunate fixation on destruction that has gripped the W.Bank and Gaza is a realization that time has been wasted on fighting instead of development,it is pure frustration.The easiest target is Israel but only for people with complete amnesia.The Jordanians provided absolutely no infrastructure in the W.Bank and Gaza but Israel improved everything in an amazing fashion.The unfortunate fact that the short sighted Arabs prefer destruction to development has caused the climate of fear and mistrust.Blame yourselves!The W.Bank and Gaza could join with Israel and be like Switzerland or Singapore improving everyone,s lives.The world owes you nothing,Israel owes you nothing so stop feeling sorry for yourselves and work on development instead of rockets and bombs.Israel is the best friend you have and the best friend you could wish for:grasp the outstretched hand

Without saying one thing in English and the oppositte in Arab.

What appeal did the victims of suicide bombers have? In Israel? Anywhere else in the world? What appeal did captured Israeli children beaten to death by Arabs have ? What appeal did Israelis have when they were attacked by 5 Arab armies in a War of annihilation. The Palestinian children should be protected by their parents instead of being sent out to the front lines after having their minds filled with racist hatred and martyrdom. What appeal do victims of Moslem terrorists in Thailand have?

The nazi's lusted after Jewish women because they were beautiful....someone does not lust after a bedraggled ugly slovenly woman.... I don't care when Israel won the beauty contests the fact is that for such a small country they did win and you can't stand it....you are a sad pathetic woman filled with hate. This hatred consumes you and will eat you up alive...I already see signs of the decay...it seeps through your posts....don't bother answering me anymore because I won't be reading your garbage.

You mean it is not "allowed" fo me to criticise the Israeli Occupation without being anti-semitic? Not allowed to criticise any aspect of Israeli policies without committing that dastartdly sin of criticising Jews? Get real - the Israeli government is full of corruption -beyond criticism I suppose?

My wife and I have been to Europe on several occasions, and we have never visited Britain. A list of names has now become available on the computer under the heading STRUMA, the rickety old vessel that was denied entry into Palestine during 1942. Scroll down the list (it is now on your computer,) and see if you do not find the name WEINTRAUB among those seven hundred that drowned.

It would appear that Zionists knew that Palestinians existed in 1897. "The bride is beautiful, but she is married to another man". This, of course, would NOT be considered "honest critism", would it? WHY? It is FORBIDDEN to criticise Israel or anything Jewish/Zionist. "Exposing hypocracy" my left cheek!

Dear Ultimate Hypocrisy, If you are going to make the claim of anti-Semitism every time there is criticism of Israel, then you have a moral obligation to address Israel?s human rights abuses. Israeli apologists never ever do that. That is the ultimate deceit and hypocrisy. Regards Nick

Dear PETER SM, Yes, the sentence passed down on the 19-year old rape victim is horrendous, though punishment has yet to be meted out, pending an appeal. At least there is an appeal. The 400 innocent civilians shot dead every year by the IDF have no such possibility, nor the 100 Palestinian children shot dead by the Israelis either every year. But I do not expect any Israeli apologist to ever address the multiple and systematic human rights violations of Israel over the last 60 years. There is only one chosen people, which it seems is interpreted as a licence to brutalise everyone else. I for one am very pleased that Charles has no plans to visit Israel. It would confer respectability upon a society that is deeply and offensively racist, as so many posts here also make plain. Regards

Dear ChanahS, You have a very creative way with historical revisionism. Who did stop the Holocaust? Regards Nick

Sort of like you and PETER SM?

n other places china ? india ? muslim states ? russia? all african states ? brazil ? we await your list eric to prove your impartiality !1 we arent holding our breath !!

hehe well bless my heart and bless my soul the soulmates have found each other...hallelujah and glory be the day... oyez oyez, the swiss donkey has had a revelation, he and the irish rubbernecker are here to bring Truth and Justice and then wait for it...are you ready...here it comes...their approval. Oy vay maneh ma we need to drop down on our knees and Praise the Lord, ohhhh yeahhhhh. the swiss donkey and irish rubbernecker goose-stepping along together...ohhh happy days.

Read the Anti semitic not just anti Israel sewer filth in Arab and other sources. Interesting how so called "humanitarians who only want peace"are totally oblivious to the whole package but would be denouncing racism and Islamophobia on top of their voices if it was directed at Arabs.

Claiming that some may criticize Israel, without hating Jews might be valid only if the criticism were honest. When they lie that Israel "oppresses" the so called "Palestinians" who the Arab leaders before WW2 said, did 'not exist', they are not offering honest criticism but more anti-Semitism disguised as "honest criticism".

Only visit those who have never hurt the Brits? Or those who are never critical? Now that you have brought up selective.

of Jews being victims and Jews do not claim to be victims. We USED to be victims. Now we kick ass. You portray our EXPLANATIONS of why we kick ass as a claim of victimhood. It's just an EXPLANATION. Interpret it anyway you want to. We will still kick ass. Concerning the Kind David Hotel, you got fair warning to evacuate. Your arrogance did not allow you to contemplate that Jews can wack you. After all, they were silent for 2,000 years. In 1948, we decided to whip out the big fellow! Concerning being safe in California, I already whipped out the big fellow three times. It needs a rest!

what about the Balfour Declaration and the King David Hotel

For the treatment of palestinians you certainly mean by their arab brothers (like in Lebanon or Irak) and their own leaders (like Hamas).

At least Sarkozy was democratically elected by the french people. And now 71% of these french approve of his policies.

Perturbed Boycott.Much Ado About Nothing. And I sent you a last response about "Uncles" if and when it comes out.Though not important in the slightest...

Enough Boycott Okay Charly boy called Lord Mountbatten uncle (yes I know the meaning of uncle thanks)For pleasure.I suppose you went rummaging to prove yourself correct.I did too(not rummamged,but to the biography of Lord Mountbatten)and the relashionship with Charles. Charles did not have an uncle. Lord Mountbatten was his father`s uncle, i.e. Charles`s great-uncle(Boycott) Did I not say he was his great uncle in my response you...Now you read carefuuuleeey as well and decide one way or t'other...Thanks

Till the suicide bombers there was no fence,along came the fence no suicide bombers. You sure NO Arab money goes to political parties? Tell us how "youlot" funding resulted in Sarkozy's election.? You sure there was no "youlot" funding for Royal? "Aparheid" why don't you look at what the Arabs say they want to do? What they always said the wanted to do in Arabic? What they tried to do using war and terror? Do "you lot" read?

"would the UK like to take back America?" Or perhaps the Red Indians could take back America?

why do so many lack the ability to distinguish between these two? despite the ravings of israel's apologists; the two are in NO WAY the same thing. and the comments quoted from these emails are NOT anti-semitic. they reflect an opposition to israel's oppression of the palestinians and its continued occupation of palestinian territory. as much as israeli supporters and apologists may want to deny; one CAN have a good rapport with the jewish community without kowtowing to israel. prince charles is an "actual" humanist, unlike many who procalim to be but who are in fact not. i'd have been very surprised if he'd undermined his sentiments by accepting this invitation. it's also refreshing to note that his convictions are apparently those of the royal family. but either way; i doubt very much if either of his two sons will stray from these convictions, as was proposed in one discussion i read.

Actually it was Charles's aides who exchanged the emails, not him. He is patron of a number of Jewish causes and has visited Israel. Anyway, people love Israel here now, since they beat Russia in the football tonight.

To show more British Respect "Saudi Arabia Punishes Gang Rape Victim with 200 Lashes A court in the Cradle of Islam is punishing a 19-year-old female victim of gang rape with 200 lashes and six months in a Saudi jail. "

Miss universe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe#Titleholders Israel won something 32 years ago; miss world 1 win http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_World#Titleholders I won't comment on the rest of your post about lust. That is about nature and necessity, not beauty. Regards.

If Israelis want a visit from a sycophantic poseur, who doubles as the Head of State of a country in western Europe, while insisting that he overlooks its worse-than-apartheid policies and applauds its wall-building skills and bestial treatment of the Palestinians, why not invite Sarkozy? You lot fund him. Why not use him?

who recently posted she was a Christian, that is wonderful. What years did Israel win any of the contests you name? Send me a citation so I can access it. Heidi Klum is beautiful and is popular because she is rather unique. Many look like Ms. Livni. So, send me a citation so I can access all these beautiful women who have won international contests. Keep reading that bible. Wonders never cease. Regards.

As I send this, there are 522 postings on this topic, the most on any topic for a very long time. Israel is facing all kinds of issues, including the Annapolis meeting, which could conceivably change the whole history of the Middle East, for peace or for war. But none of them are nearly as important, apparently, as what Prince Charles's secretaries said to each other. How very, very insecure you Israel-supporters must be feeling to make this huge fuss about such a trivial incident.

A Lombard without a life.

Dont let the past dictate what you do in Palestine today, what hapened during the World Wars or during the dark ages should not justify any injustices done today, on the contrary you should have learned from it.

I suspect that I should not be indulging your lunatic obsession with the British royal family and their alleged Jewish connections, but here goes for one last time. Charles did not have an uncle. Lord Mountbatten was his father's uncle, i.e. Charles's great-uncle. Please read this carefully, look up the word 'uncle' in a dictionary, and then read it again.

Maybe we should revive the Nazi war criminal Hess and few other friends of his deceased uncle Edward and bring them to Windsor Castle for a homecoming.

As usual your arrogance overrides your common sense....It is common knowledge in Europe and other countries around the world that Israel has some of the most beautiful women and handsome men. For such a small country they have won the Miss World and Miss Universe contests and have placed 1st. and I think it was 3rd place in other Miss Universe contests... They are also represented in the world of modeling by many beautiful women.You might hate the country and the Jews but facts are facts...even the vile Nazi's lusted after the Jewish women. In the documentary by Claude Lanzmann he discusses this subject with Polish men after the Holocaust... You seem so obsessed with your hatred towards Israel ...what is the matter with you?

Mr. Linthwaite, An interesting comment, tho' irrelevent here don't you think? Perhaps we should discuss Northern Island, or better still, would the UK like to take back America?

in their OFFICIAL media. Its often not anti Israel just plain crude gutter anti-semitic lies and forgeries including videos of Arabs having their throats cut by Rabbis.Talk about projection. Not even Goebells produced stuff like that.

Isn't it time Prince Charles visited the final resting place of his father's mother, Princess Alice who is buried in Jerusalem?

Because they tried to steal it all through war and terror and lost.

Did you complain to Linthwaite? Are you denying my right of reply? Who do you think you are?

What idea do you have about the Middle East and what goes on in M.E. countries ? How many M.E. countries have you visited ? I have visited eight countries, including Israel, and I disagree with you. Please dont write about things you dont know.

So its not a matter of "deserves" is it?

Did we forget that all the problems Israel had have with the Islamic nations was and is because of British Empire Did we forget that he was the Chamberlin that he engorged the Hitler to the ww2? Did we forget that the Churchill in one of his speech during the ww2 have wishes three more Hitler?s? Did we forget that during ww2 when the Germans were sending the Jews to the death gas chambers the British have kept silenced? Did we forget that the ww2 and death of 6 millions Jews was British conspiracy? Did we forget that the British after ww2 didn?t let the Jews to return to theirs land? What is a reason that some of our politicians care about Prince Charles visit to Israel? Is that because they still believe he is the big boss? In the end be the great leader like Menachen Begin and stop kissing the British asses

LABHRAS you don't care for the Palestinian people, And Lilli is right telling you what she did in post #491 If you would have cared for the Palestinian people, where are your posts when Palestinians kill Palestinians in Gaza, aren?t you equally torn up by it that one post can?t be found? If you had cared for the Palestinian people, you wouldn?t lecture AKLAS an Arab Israeli with Palestinian origins, on what is good for her, and what Israel should mean to her! On that day you showed every one who you really are, and Lilly is RIGHT and stop hiding it! A reminder to your arrogant responses to Aklas ? link the Article http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/920097.html

....are claiming to represent the "Jews", and that even on a left-liberal Israeli newspaper like Haaretz. I would say that's called "chuzpah". Labhras and I are definitely much closer to the "Haaretz" "Jews" than you guys ever will be. And if I use the word "closer", I am not only talking about political views. Don't you understand that the decent Israelis, or "Jews", if you want, are suffering badly because of your rather deplorable behaviour...?? I'm afraid you will never be able to understand that, because your ideological extremism is making you blind for the reality.

"Your statement "you give a 30 minute warning for King David...". is THE lie, I did not give 30 min and I am sure nobody on this talkback did" If you don't mind, please do not make light of the deaths of British people in the King David Hotel. Civilians died there, and it is not a matter over which you can appropriately be facetious. If you are a Jew, I can very easily imagine how kindly you'd take to anyone writing so "cleverly" about the deaths of Jews.

"Real Estate Expo in England Features Homes in Illegal Israeli Settlements." Reference: 'Friends of Al Aqsa' http://www.aqsa.org.uk/ The Guardian is also a reference source for the above. No doubt, Prince Charles also knows of the despicable swindle taking place in Palestine. Kind regards.

Yes, Diana's boys are a credit to her and I do hope the Queen lives a bit longer (although I think this royalty stuff is BS, esp if the movie the "Queen" has ANY accuracy) so that William will become King, if they need one. That horrid Camilla turns my stomach and her rejection by Brits is less than what she deserves. I thought highly of Diana, so unpretentious and lost in that royalty garbage, which is why she is dead. Regards.

in one sweep he dissolved the monasteries and brought down the whole corrupt edifice of catholic england.

Your posts are not worth replying to.They are as usual full of irrelevant claptrap. But please keep expending your time.

why would a tiny catholic ruratania be so mean as to wish the turks be kept well away? "use the tradesman's entrance" the vatican tells turkey the seventh largest economy in europe. is the vatican a source of hate?

I think it is useful to note that the first sentence of this article is dead wrong, as the rest of the article shows. Charles did not say that he was worried that his visit would enhance Israel's imagine - he said that he was worried that the Israelis would manipulate him so as to make his visit enhance their image and that he would not be able to prevent this. Which part of "to avoid the many ways in which Israel would want HRH [Prince Charles] to help burnish its international image" is hard to understand? It is natural for Israel to want to use such a trip for propaganda purposes. Every nation with an "image problem" wants such visits for that purpose. But it is equally natural for their intended tools to prevent their being used that way - and if they can't be sure of preventing it, simply to refrain from going.

You wrote----"You are right, it is so clear that they are here because they hate us Jews. But I am not sure we can do anything about it." You could stop electing politicians that perpetrate Crimes against the Palestinian People, and replace them with true "Peacemakers".Do that and I will be glad to leave you alone.

Who would want a brazen adulterer to come and visit us anyway? Let him stay at home and break the commandments in his pagan state. Regards.

Hid Euro-trash wife, Diana, proved him to be a major clown. There is a reason his mother is keeping him from the crown and Israel gains nothing from granting that german imposter legitimacy. Put up a sign, "No Clowns Allowed."

"I`m afraid I wasn`t specific enough earlier, my beloved "mum" just doesn`t like (right-wing) Jews, as you can see from my posts here, it`s clearly the mother-milk....." DINO, no smileys Sir, Antisemitism is incredibly wide spread affliction. Your form is quite benign and apparently you have quite decent upbringing and behave yourself. I knew a lot antisemites - some of them were reasonable people - I expect you to be easy, nice and friendly. When next time in NYC leave me message on this talkback - I would be happy to have a drink with you... Stay well.

H I think he must have been left out much of today,and is rather miffed.I too had a chuckle on reading about his business in London.But I was surprised about the naughty reply,so I said so in my short response..

"For your knowledge none of the Jews in Palestine fought with or for the Germans, and a high percentage of the Jewish community in Palestine fought with the British, in their campaigns in the ME." Compared to the Arabs, following their mufti al husseini, who collaborated with the Nazis hoping to bring the "final solution to the JEws in Mandatory Palestine. But of course Labarse has absolutely nothing to comment on that little tidbit.

Who really cares?? the Brits did not want us to have a country back in 48 and it appears have not changed their minds. But is is really so important whether Big Ears will come or not? There seem many more important things to discuss and worry about thanthe visit of a British royal to Israel.

The King David Hotel was bombed in 1946 by the Irgun because of Britain's restrictive immigration policy since 1939 that condemned those Jews wishing to leave Europe for Palestine to certain death. The policy of the British Mandatory government in Palestine was to keep Jews out of the country and to brings Arabs in.

Behind every disabled man, there are always able men. Never do anything standing that you can do sitting, or anything sitting that you can do lying down. Be not afraid of going slowly, be afraid only of standing still. Going too slow is losing a cow for the sake of a turtle. A job of a thousand posts begins with a single line.

ballistic I am glad you acknowledged on the "slave trade"being perpetratred/helped by their own. That aside,on the rumours of Jews helping the Nazis is something that does the rounds now and again.That you gave the info'I am most interested.When some give us links,books etc,to enlighten.. Will try and read about it,providing it is a non partisan type and it is genuine. Regards

Sir/Madame, I was not there - you insist on your delusions. It was an attack of liberation movement against British occupier - you understand this parlance. Your people started primary market of slavery and my people as everybody else - participated in secondary market - nverry little for obvious reasons - Arabs were so much more prominent. Say, some bad Jews - we have them today and you admire them -worked against their own people - what is your happiness?

....sarcasm are the best weapons in order to "silence" our right-wing "jokers" here. Believe me, not really worth to risk a heart- attack....:) Not at all. P.S. I was getting much closer to a heart-attack when my good old Scots (my second-favourite football-team after Switzerland...) lost through a silly 90th minute goal against Italy. Too bad, no "tartan-army" next year in Switzerland....

Labhras Ireland was Neutral during the war how Nice So did Switzerland but the banks were not I am sure for whose side you where cheering!

you wrote------"Your responses ooze with despise and hate of Jews! Who are the "settlers"? Who are the citizens of "Israel"? Who are the posters you respond to? These are all Jews and your attitude to all is one of disgust." Should I turn a blind eye to Israel,s crimes against the Palestinian People(see 88 UN Resolutions)because you are Jews.Would that not be "Anti -semitic". I note your only defense has been the Anti Semite Card.Can you perhaps offer a somewhat more scholarly defense.Ie provide credible evidence that my assertions are incorrect. Prove to me that the "Illegal Settlers" (living in Jews only settlements) are legal or morally laudible.Please engage.

Keep up reading what you like to read, The important thing you forgot to mention is that the ?Final Solution? the extermination of the Jews was initiated in 1942, and the LECH`I (the stern Gang) proposal was offered at 1940. You may lack some understanding on the subject but before the idea of Final Solution came up by the Nazis there was a plan called the Madagascar Plan which was abandoned (deporting all Jews to Madagascar put them on an Island, making Europe free of Jews) The LECH`I proposed that the deportation of Jews will be directed to a closer destination `Palestine` in vision of a Jewish State, since you guys the British closed the doors they thought the germens will help them open the gates (in retrospect this was a dumb idea, BUT chronologically it was worth a try). For your knowledge none of the Jews in Palestine fought with or for the Germans, and a high percentage of the Jewish community in Palestine fought with the British, in their campaigns in the ME.

ballistic Haven't you realized as yet that this is not a PR excercise,but a means to boost Haaretz' coffers,who put articles of this nature on various forums to stimulate/attract respondents and make money from it.(no offence Haaretz it is your job)and we do understand the situation.. And there you go ballistic explanation is out by me. Actually you are quite right.Charles will never be king,and he is well aware.The next king will be prince William, for sure.And hopefully he will follow in his dear maother's footseps too and do it justice to her IMAGE...

Keep up reading what you like to read, The important thing you forgot to mention is that the ?Final Solution? the extermination of the Jews was initiated in 1942, and the LECH`I (the stern Gang) proposal was offered at 1940. You may lack some understanding on the subject but before the idea of Final Solution came up by the Nazis there was a plan called the Madagascar Plan which was abandoned (deporting all Jews to Madagascar put them on an Island, making Europe free of Jews) The LECH`I proposed that the deportation of Jews will be directed to a closer destination `Palestine` in vision of a Jewish State, since you guys the British closed the doors they thought the germens will help them open the gates (in retrospect this was a dumb idea, BUT chronologically it was worth a try). For your knowledge none of the Jews in Palestine fought with or for the Germans, and a high percentage of the Jewish community in Palestine fought with the British, in their campaigns in the ME.

You are right, it is so clear that they are here because they hate us Jews. But I am not sure we can do anything about it. Europe is full of them, especially people on the left or what some call them neo-socialists. BTW I don't think the Dino guy is the same as the Irishman. Yishar kohech.

"Sorry I was away on business." Best laugh I've had all day. Even better than the sky diving and Karate training.

observer You are here too are you not?well that says it all.That it is amazing I have no doubt.The "insiders" need to get a life! By insiders do you mean Haaretz?otherwise I cannot see any,bar for us the respondents to the article.And if I may say so,the whole subject does not merit so many posts,and I have sent one precisely on this topic to Haaretz. Remember it is in the interest of the publishers that inveriably happens all the time,irrespective of its contents here in all forums. Thank You

....after this (rather brutal...) exposure...?? But I have to insist, a "smiley" is still a "smiley", and in the case of Swiss-Dino it can make (almost...) all the difference. But I appreciate the fact that you appreciate that I am at least a nice "anti-Semite"...:) No nightmares tonight in little "Brooklyn"....

The Prince simply did not want to visit Israel. He never advocated mass murdering Jews, nor supported the Holocaust. You my friend are still suffering from the Masada Complex, you're very paranoid. Give it a break. This victimhood complex of yours has made you lose all touch with reality.

You wrote----"Your feelings towards Jews seem to be identical - you despise us but can not simply come out and say so in so many words." Let me State again. I do not hate Jews.I despise and loathe perpetrators( of any nationality) of brutality and subjugation on a helpless People. Now the fact that you call me anti- semite simply proves you lack a credible defense for the Apartheid State of Israel and it,s actions. By the way, thanks for the compliment re Swiss Dino.Hope he sees it the same way, but as I am somewhat more radical than he ,I rather doubt it.Best not move him further away also. Btw your post has a certain 'familiarity" to it.

The survivors of the Holocaust had no automatic legal right of entry into Palestine. What part of that do you not understand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing Read the link. Illegal Immigrants were removed from Israel as a response to the terrorist attack on the King David Hotel. Any 13 year old british Kid could tell you that. Why are you so obstinatly sticking to your guns when you are so obviously wrong?

....a few of our posts and you will realize quite quickly that Labhras and I are not the same persons: His English is (much, much...) better than mine.... By the way, funny name, where did you "pick that up"....??? :) From a "Spaghetti-Western"...???

That's true. I thought you may have been referring to standards like world beauty pageants use and I would be surprised if they finish anywhere near the top. Regards.

I have acknowledged blacks sold their people, on many occasions, and I also acknowledge that you and yours financed many of those ships, the most famous slave ship being the "Jesus", Mr. Goldberg of SC being the biggest financier and slave owner in SC. Now, how about acknowledging the role that Zionists played in the demise of countless #s of Jews by collaborating with the Nazis, lobbying Western states to turn fleeing Jews away, and the whole ugly scenario which Jews now TOTALLY blame on everybody else. So, how about it? Fess up, and if you don't know, research it. It is quite well documented and the signed agreements still exist. Start with "51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis", and then read "The Transfer Agreement". Then we can discuss Zionist worms and Black worms and commiserate together, how's that? Regards.

My dear friend DINO, Sir, Smiley not smiley, your mother is antisemite and you too - all by your own admission. Of course you are not as malignant as humanoids from British Isles - you are a "benign" variation - usually it is associated with comfortable financial situation and I am glad for you. Keep you smiley smiley. 17, the right winger - Va', pensiero, sull'ALI(wings) dorate

I think that the "insiders" need to get a life! One can argue till the cows come home or you become blue in the face! Nothing you can write about will make one iota of difference. In reality things are as they are...and depending on one's personal program/agenda the optic is always going to be that which they want to see. WHAT A WASTE OF TIME IT IS HERE.

I do apologize if I am in error, how much time did you give the King David before you blew it up? Nobody indicated a different time, so you advise us how much time Zionists gave the residents between warning and blow up time? It was still a terrorist attack. BTW, as for slavery, yes, many blacks were responsible for providing the bodies and your people financed many of the ships, all documented, so what is your point? Do you have any idea how many Jews lobbied Western gov'ts not to accept fleeing Holocaust survivors? Do a tad of research on it and you will be surprised before you start throwing stones. There were worms amongst my people and worms amongst yours too. Now, about that time lag there before killing those people, enlighten us. Regards.

Your responses ooze with despise and hate of Jews! Who are the "settlers"? Who are the citizens of "Israel"? Who are the posters you respond to? These are all Jews and your attitude to all is one of disgust. And you want to tell me that you are here for other than expressing your hate of us in our faces?

so what is this "concede defeat" nonsense you have cooked up? What should I concede defeat on? Your posts have been very odd. You must need rest. BTW, if you need me to dig out the names of the Zionists who prevented refugee Jews from being accepted here and there, post me, and I will get them for you, along with citatons to some of their signed memos and letters which have been archived. Regards.

have benefited from my mate, who survived, so I don't have to go on hearsay. I do not deny the horrors that took place, however, all of those responsible for it and aided it have not been brought to justice or public attention. I suggest you go to the site "Jews Against Zionism" and read about those named Jews, who aided and abetted the nazis in the slaughter of their own people (I acknowledged blacks played a pivotal role in our own holocaust of slavery) and not blame everybody, but them. One thing which may not be well known is that there are many Jews who lobbied western gov'ts not to take Jews, all in an effort to get Palestine. I don't see anybody touting Adolph Schicklgruber either, but history does not change. A lot of those around Herzl were DIRECTLY responsible for the deaths of many Jews--read the "Transfer Agreement" and/or "51 Documents:Zionist Collaboration with Nazis". There is enough blame to go around, but Finkelstein is right, it has become a business. Regards

Margie wrote---"Look at the sort of state he does grace with his royal presence: BUSH'S PERSONAL FINANCIAL TIES TO SAUDIS RUN DEEP: According to various sources, Bush has been awash in Saudi money for years. Journalist/author Craig Unger in his new book "House of Bush, House of Saud" traced millions "in investments and contracts that went from the Saudis over the past 20 years to companies in which the Bushes and their allies have had prominent positions - Harken Energy, Halliburton, and the Carlyle Group among them." According to the Boston Herald, that includes a $1 million gift from Prince Bandar to the Bush Presidential Library in Texas. Best stop taking that US "Aid". *

I know the Exodus made more than oe trip to the shores of Israel - perhaps this is what happened in a later journey. Thanks for the info.

NOT HAVE AN UNCLE.HE REPEATED IT TWICE. Yes papel bull,when it happened my mother was rather young,but news of this nature is well known and recoreded. And yes it was Lord Mountbatten in his boat if memory serves me right... P/S Someone had to remind people here,for sure!!

Not at all - I wrote that that it means "infidel" , which is what the topic was about. Jy praat twak in 373 stated quite clearly what it means in South Africa. Why should it have to be repeated. It was however not used only in South Africa.

Yes, how many Jews were doing that Labhras? You're certainly presenting a very balanced view, as usual. "Within four months of the outbreak of war [WWII], the Jewish Agency gave the authorities a list of 134,000 Jews [in Palestine] who wanted to serve in the British army -- one out of every two men of military age and 20,000 women." (Segev, One Palestin, Complete, 2000, p. 450). Morris writes of the Jews in Palestine that "their eagerness to join up was curtailed only by British reluctance to have them." (Righteous Victims, Vintage, p. 166). Eventually 25,000 to 28,000 would serve in the British army, with thousands more serving as special auxiliary policement. (ibid.) George Orwell wrote back in 1945 that "the Jewish war effort seldom gets its fair share of recognition." (Essays, Everyman's Library, 2002, p. 849). Of course, Orwell was an honest and decent man, unlike some sick and evil souls who prefer to distort history even today.

You wrote----"You critique is not motivated by Israel`s legal occupation, although you use it as an excuse. It is so obvious to readers that you have a deeper, much deeper negative feelings about Jews." Check laws on transfer of Occupiers population to occupied territory.That is what makes it "Illegal", as in Illegal Settlers.Did not think someone as silli as you would know that. As to hating Jews, you could not be further from the truth.I just loathe and detest perpetrators(of any nationality) of brutality and crimes such as those of the criminal enterprise that is the State Of Israel. Does that clear it up for you. Have a nice day.

same person? Your feelings towards Jews seem to be identical - you despise us but can not simply come out and say so in so many words. (It is interesting, the "two" are Europeans, based on the same continent in which the Jew has had a special place in people's minds).

Refusal to allow Jewish holocaust survivors from Europe on the shores of what is now Israel has nothing to do with the blowing up of the KD hotel and everything to do with Britain's policy not to allow Jewish immgration into Palestine, while allowing Arab immigration from the surrounding areas.

Not a very nice projection by yourself. You only come down to "gutter level"

....original statement...???? Yes, I really think so (maybe it was also behind the following, related sentence, but it surely was there...). And what does it mean if Swiss-Dino uses a smiley...??? Bad luck, buddy...:)

17 thank you for... A good reminder to ballistic,sir or madam.. She forgets who exactly sold the blacks in Africa,and how they benefited from the trade? None other the"BLACKS"Temselves,who made a bundle of the trade. But she conveniently,not only forgets but,dismisses it out of hand.She is a twister of the narrative of her own,plus other's history as well.

Have a nice day.

If some of you think for one moment. The number of posts here make one feel dizzy. Now then,it only Prince Charles would get such an attention in Britain he would certainly be extremely pleased and bow down in humility. Of course YOU DEAR HAARETZ do exaggerate the importance you have given to this subject and I understand fully.I am only pointing out to all respondents(not to stop for it will never fill the coffers of Haaretz),BUT!I am commenting on the reality of the subject which has attracted so many of us. Now please Haaretz,would you be kind and put not only this observation of mine,BUT ALSO THE RESPONSE I SENT TO DANA(ON ANY OF HERS WILL DO)about thinking she is employed in the judiciary. Will you do this for me,eh?

"On thought crossed my mind,and that is how his poor wife feels about his obsession? And by what name does she call him?" Sorry I wasn't able to answer you earlier, Fed-Up. I've been in london on business all day. At night, when we're going to bed, my lovely wife turns back the sheet and invariably says, "Slide in, Big Boy".

one that many of us have noticed. You critique is not motivated by Israel's legal occupation, although you use it as an excuse. It is so obvious to readers that you have a deeper, much deeper negative feelings about Jews.

You may have noticed that our South African friend fell silent. "Kaffirs" is a term of abuse used by white South Africans towards their black untermenschen.

If Pal children being starved their picture would be in the media. Their parents would be asking for money. You cant be talking about Israeli parents. They dont dance in te street when their child is killed. Your remark shows the intelligence that supporters of Pal have.

Sir/Madadam, Your statement "you give a 30 minute warning for King David...". is THE lie, I did not give 30 min and I am sure nobody on this talkback did. It is a special innuendo inflammatory way to slight Jewish people for controversial action of some. American Jews were quite instrumental in African-American struggle ... We [:)] helped you [:)] By the way - did YOU sell your fellow Africans into slavery? Correct way is to state specifically who did what.

1, Ireland was neutral during the War. 2, Here is waht some of your heroes were doing while their fellow Jews were being exterminated. incredibly, Avraham Stern, the leader of the notorious ?Stern Gang,? late in 1940, made a written proposal to Hitler, by which the Jewish militias in Palestine, would fight on ?Germany?s side,? in the war against England, in exchange for the Nazis help in resolving the ?Jewish Question? in Europe, and their assistance in creating an ?historic Jewish state.? By this date, German troops had already marched into Prague, invaded Poland, and had built the first concentration camp at Auschwitz. The deranged Stern had further bragged about how the Zionist organizations were ?closely related to the totalitarian movements of Europe in [their] ideology and structure.? Stern?s obscene proposal was found in the German embassy, in Turkey, after WWII.Some input on BIG-OT,s terrorist heroes.

Usual diversion tactics Ballistic - would you like me to divert even further to what the anti-semitic nazzi loving lithuanians did to my grandfather and my fathers 6 siblings - just as a diversionary tactic, you understand. Stick to the issue or concede defeat - but stop the BS that you are so full of.

Strange assumptions you have, Lou Knee! Fine health service in Nablus eh? Ever seen the Government hospital, experienced being held up by numerous roadblocks whilst you lie in an ambulance haemorrhaging from childbirth, or in agony from a heart attack. Chances are you wouldn't make it past the IDF soldiers. The Arabs of Israel are not disadvantaged, you say, but what has that to do with the Palestinians under suppression and occupation in Nablus and Beit Jala? I expect the Prince has discussed the issue with Mr Blair - holed up in the luxury of the American Colony hotel. He apparently is shocked at the conditions in the West Bank. Strange he didn't know that whilst he was the PM!

For your edification. Saturday, March 20, 2004 : By Eddie Cassidy and Christy Parker THE heir to the British throne jetted into Cork last night and told a welcoming party: "It's lovely to be here."Accompanied by partner Camilla Parker Bowles, Prince Charles was immediately whisked from the airport in a motor cavalcade to Lismore, Co Waterford. He visits civilised States.His Mamma is next on the list.You see we have made peace.You will never know it.So keep posting your irrevelant crap.It only serves to demonstrate your lack of a credible argument.

iF he went to Israel there would be more subway bombings, Would oil be delievered to this cold wet country. Engand is being torn, do we protect ourselves from the home grown terrorists or continue to allow them into the country.

What is the big deal. This fella talks to plants,wears a skirt, marries his mistress who looks and acts like a warhorse. I am sure he is not even aware of this "jolly frightful situation, what"! Lets rather invite Britney Spears.

The Holocaust. Ronen Some people are not only obdurate,but suffer from blighted vision.So,no matter what they are told(which the whole word knows the perfidy of the British)they still hang on to their perceived idea and one has to fight them all the way.Otherwise,their condition is a malady which is incurable.We see it here day after day and we are immune to it,no matter how it upsets our feelings. But fight we must,and do so with vigour.To think the accusation they make about the King David's hotel being bombed,when not only the Brits were warned,but superciously rejected the warning.That aside the other factors as well. They then refused entry of the some of the remnant Jews from Nazi Germany into Israel,not only deprived them,but sent them back from the hell they managed to escape,plus interning them in Cyprusn like criminals! And as you say this was Britain's contribution to humanism--NOT!

Yeah yeah yeah. Another Jew blaming everything on someone else and not taking responsibility for themselves. Eli the UK had nothing to do with the holocaust. Jews were sent to Cyprus as a response to the King David Hotel. But that bit doesn't fit into your vicytim state version of the world does it? Nevermind you stay safe in California.

Beauty is within the eye of the beholder. Every culture has its own sense of what constitutes beauty.

....you guys seem to "fear" my influence here so much (why else would you feel the need to apply your "dirty little tricks"...:) Is your moral position really that weak...??? But calm down, "buddy", the few thousand people who read Haaretz Talkback will not change the Israeli political landscape. So (unfortunately) I won't be able to bring right-wing Israel down to its knees. But I surely will keep on trying...:)

As someone who objects to what you claim as the Jewish exploitation of the Holocaust - please be kind enough to refrain from bringing the Palestinian conflict into every single talkdback subject that have nothig to do with this issue. Having said that - Jewish Holocaust survivors on the Exodus and other ships were not demanding the takeover of England, nor bombing their citizens daily, not blowing them up in the streets of London. The British refusal to allow them into Palestine was part of their draconian laws to limit Jewish immigration while continuing to frely allow immigration of Arabs from the entire region into Palestine. They disragrded the fact that these were survivrors of the war and the Holocaust with total coldheartedness. Stick to the issue - or else I will take you back to the British oppressive behaviour towards both blacks ad the boers (whom the british placed in concentration camps) in good old apartheid south africa - instigated as you know primarily by the British!

David On the subject of Eleltherios Venizelos: My great grand father met him and had a meeting with him at the time Elestherios Venizelos. I heard this listening as child from my mother and it stuck in my mind. Wondrous thing is a child?s memory.I asked my mother about it when I read yours yesterday and she said:Where did you hear this ?And I reminded her about a long time ago listening to adult convesations.She then said:Oh yes,you naughty girl you were listening hmmm. In brief David my grand father and my grand mother both spoke fluent greek.Mine is just a few words I had picked here and there.. Seeing yours brought it mind..

Haaretz is constantly dragging up things about the British and Israel, that have no credence, and reporting them in such away as to make the UK seem as all it has on its agenda is anti-Israel. G W Bush is now in his second term, yet the fact that he has not visited Israel is not mentioned. I was born in the UK, and lived there for 27 years. Went to a school where we were 40 Jews amongst 600 pupils I never experienced any discrimination. My surname makes it obvious I'm Jewish. I can only conclude, that Haaretz thinks the 1948 fight with the Brit's is not over. I would like to remind Haaretz that the British Foreign Secretary is a Jew. The last leader of the Conservative party Micheal Howard is Jewish, and if his party would have won the election the UK would have had a Jewish Prime Minister, and HRH's sister is married to a man with a Jewish background. Lay of it Haaretz, this cheap gutter style press to gain a headline is beneath you.

But you don't mind bonny C's friendship with the royal family in Saudi Arabia - you know where 19 year old rape victims get punished with lashes and jail terms for entering a car with a non-relative male. You're the perfect example of the pseudo liberals that constitue the usual Israel gangbashers.

Harry Potter Don`t get too exited about LAB-Harass and Linth-Twit they are self-contained in a Haartez experiment we are conducting here in Israel. Yes, Yes, we still have that Lack-Of-Shame here, just wonderful how you can release her and she comes back every time, and every day, to the Haartez experiment center! One of our conclusions done by the Haaretz experiment center is that the ones with brains leave the facility when the door is open, the ones with less brainpower just stay and stay and continue with the experiment, but we don?t care better having the coped up here then having them out their where their ideas could be revolutionary! Goodbye Harry tell Professor Dumbeldor that he will have his yearly report of the long-term psychological evaluation we are doing here in the Haaretz experiment center!

tell israelinsider w won't let me read the comments. Guess he figured giving zebulon an opportunity for big ag deals would be eough to keep me inline.well,I need online.go do nice-nice

you wrote-----"Isn`t it nice, LABHRAS, to be given space here by a Jewish news organization so that you can insult Jews day in and day out?" Well if you consider condemning the 40+year brutal occupation of the Palestinian People as "Anti Semite" then so be it.I personally find the term "Anti brutality" more accurate. BTW not sure if you noticed that the address is "www" that means World wide Web. We in Ireland invite you to visit any sites that are discussing even one "UN Resolution" condemning Irelands ill treatment of another People. It is you that has to try to defend the indefensible.End the occupation and I will most assuredly leave you be.Cannot imagine what I would have in common with a supporter of the criminal activities of Israel.

http://www.wymaninstitute.org/ articles/2004-04-flagisborn.php In the above link I found that the exodus after being intercepted off israeli shores was returned to Marseille (where it departed from). The survivors refused to disembark and the ship was then sent to Germany where the brits diesembarked them by force. They were then sent to Displaced Persons Camp in Germany. The article does not mention Dachau but I am sure to remember that where they were sent. I also found that the 600 survivors on board the SS Ben Hecht had the same fate but were jailed in Cyprus.

lord mountbatten.charles does not mind visiting the irish.

Cheese, I hope Israel loses the soccer match againts Russia so the wonderful English can stay out of it. Ha ha ha ha

I direct your attention to a more recent 'replay' of King David to Lebanon, where Zionists told the villagers to leave and promptly killed large numbers in their fleeing raggidy trucks along with bombing any roads they could use, not to mention those poor folks who had no transportation. Likewise, you give a 30 minute warning for King David. How do you know everybody heard it or believed you guys could be so barbaric to your BENEFACTOR! You just keep on making useless distinctions, but it appears you are running out of em. Israel is a terrorist state and should be designated as one and would be if not for the US, who many around the world indicate is in the same according to opinion polls the US herself has done. Carry on, as you continue to be quite busy slinging buckets of BS hoping some will stick. BTW; you need a new header; that one is stupid. Regards.

"we know what Israelis feel about the UK and we will remember". Linthwaite. We also remember the thousands of holocaust survivors who were turned back by the ugly Brits from the shores of what is now Israel back into Cyprus or into the ovens of the Germans. We also remember the raids to disarm our settlements, leaving us defenseless and at the mercy of the butchering Arabs where thousands of us were massacred. As vengeance, you got the Queen and Charlie as a punishment. The punishment is not over. It continues by the flood of Islamo-fascists in your country until they take over and make you bow to Allah or get butchered in his name.

Labhras haven?t you heard the news Palestinians are killing Palestinians in Gaza, just cover your eyes and put some muffs on your ears, and don?t speak of it a word! Hello Labhras who rattled you up in the cage this morning!

Labhras haven?t you heard the news Palestinians are killing Palestinians in Gaza, just cover your eyes and put some muffs on your ears, and don?t speak of it a word! Hello Labhras who rattled you up in the cage this morning!

Silvienne Do Give It a Rest, for all what Peter has written in post #58 is TRUE! Do your checking around, go places it is all carved in stone and blood!

Silvienne Do Give It a Rest, for all what Peter has written in post #58 is TRUE! Do your checking around, go places it is all carved in stone and blood!

Aw his mammy's folks in Derry are so preshus to him...he wants to know ... 'How are they all in Derry.' it must be connected with '`It will bite you in the derryaire.` i mean, innt he cute??????? even if he dont shower much you cant smell him from hear

"Alderton asked is it "safe to assume there is no chance of this visit ever actually happening?" Alderton noted, "Acceptance would make it hard to avoid the many ways in which Israel would want HRH [Prince Charles] to help burnish its international image. In which case, let's agree a way to lower its expectations".. Some [Jewish] community leaders asked to comment have stressed Prince Charles' fondness for the community and Jewish matters" - Haaretz The last quoted sentence shows that Prince Charles is no anti-Semite. The reason for not having an official Royal visit is obviously political, and has to do with the current Israeli-Palestinian issue. As I noted in #297, no British Monarch visited South Africa during Apartheid days. There were visits shortly before and shortly after that regime, so obviously the British have a consistent policy here. The visit is not up to Prince Charles; no doubt, Queen Elizabeth and the British government will veto it.

Let's get real and stop being overly sensitive. I don't give a rat's ass what Charles or anyone else thinks about Israel or the Jewish people as long as they don't attack or hurt Jews in any way. As the old saying goes "sticks and stones..." Besides, Charles isn't exactly the go to guy for common sense or good behavior now is he.

I believe that I am right, though I am not sure all were sent to Dachau. After the ship returned to Marseille (France) and though many french were providing them food the ship could not leave (blocked by the brits). The situation became dramatic on board and they had no choice than disembark. The brits then sent them to Dachau whrw space was available. Too bad all my documents regarding that story are far away in Paris, but I will try to check.

aha he's managed to raise his head up off the bar ans post in a stupor. care to tell us about the valiant Irish war heroes that emlisted with the Nazis.... come now you have avoided talking about your relatives for months now. Tell us about them...the source of your rabid anti-semitism. Stalag 301, to jog your memory. oh yeah...remember there's much much more to discuss, just waiting for you on some basics. By now many folks know your background so you can discuss it with them....to allay your fear.

Sir, It did not. How does she distinguish between "good" and "bad" Jews? May be she thinks all Jews are right wingers - and consequently can not stand them all as it was in your original statement. Do you understand difference between "can not stand" and "dislike". It is very interesting trait (not be able to stand (right wing) Jews) that transmits with mother milk. Kindly enlighten.

...online exactly the same time as "Ya'akov", right...??? But couldn't you at least try to vary your style of writing JUST ONCE....??? Come on, "buddy" from Jerusalem, do you really have to make yourself a Talkback "laughing stock"....??? :)

ChanahS doesnt tell people that the decision to imprison illegal immigrants within the then Palestine in Cyprus was a direct response to the attack on the King David Hotel. Up to this point, those Jews who had reached Israel were to all intents and purposes allowed to remain because the british were leaving anyway. It is all here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing It is accepted fact that women were killed in the King David Hotel, ChanahS just doesn't want people to realise that Israel is a state founded on Terrorism, an accepted fact that terrorists were allowed to join government and the military. Yet if Palestinians do this they are villified. That is the double standards of Chanah S and her ilk. Jews can establish a state through terrorism, the Palestinians should not be allowed to. Desperate to make sure the idea doesn't stick, thats all.

Why on earth are we pursuing the unwanted approval from an English Monarch? Let history judge them for their actions (and inactions).

Did you guess the second question?

You wrote-------"Of course the British had nothing to do with the Holocaust - but they also did nothing to stop it or to alleviate the suffering of its victims." Here is a sample of Israels heroes alleviating Palestinian suffering. Ben-Gurion, quoting General Avner, briefly referred in his war diary to the 'rumours' that the army had 'slaughtered 70-80 persons.' What happened was described a few days later by an Israeli soldier-witness to a Mapam member, who transmitted the information to Eliezer Pra'i, the editor of the party daily Al Hamishmar and a member of the party's Central Committee. The party member, S. (possibly Shabtai) Kaplan, described the witness as 'one of our people, an intellectual, 100 percent reliable.' The village, wrote Kaplan, had been held by Arab 'irregulars' and was captured by the 89th Battalion (8th Brigade) without a fight. 'The first [wave] of conquerors killed about 80 to 100 [male] Arabs, women, and children. The children they killed by breaking their heads with sticks. There was not a house without dead,' wrote Kaplan. Kaplan's informant, who arrived immediately afterwards in the second wave, reported that Arab men and women who remained were then closed off in their houses 'without food or water.' Sappers arrived to blow up the houses. 'One commander ordered a sapper to put two old women in a certain house ... and to blow up the house with them. The sapper refused ... The commander then ordered his men to put in the old women and the evil deed was done. One soldier boasted that he had raped a woman and then shot her. One woman, with a newborn baby in her arms, was employed to clean the courtyard where the soldiers ate. She worked a day or two. In the end they shot her and her baby.' The soldier-witness, according to Kaplan, said that 'cultured officers ... had turned into base murderers and this not in the heat of battle ... but out of a system of expulsion and destruction. The less Arabs remained--the better. This principle is the political motor for the expulsions and the atrocities

....both of your questions: My dear "mum" doesn't like ALL the right- wingers of this world, be it Swiss, Christians, Jews or Muslims.... So I really think she (we) should deserve your final "absolution"...:) Right...???

by a Jewish news organization so that you can insult Jews day in and day out? You are an example of what some of us call anti-Semite while others as anti-Jewish racist and still others as a neo-soc.

Actually I stated quite clearly that it was and was considered a terrorist attack and condemned by the JEwish mainstream. What I objected to was Linthwait'es misrepresentation of the facts. It was not an attack on woman and childrena nd he cannot prove his libelous claim. My connection to Livni or any other political stream is in your mind only, as you have a tendency to try to intimidate people by identifying them with people you consider as worthless. I right in my name only. You have now idea (as you keep proving) how and for whom I vote, yet have the gall to make unfounded assumptions about a lot of issues you know squat about.

Firstly you have no idea what I think about the bombing of the KD hotel - I just cannot tolerate untruthful and misleading representations of the event. Secondly - Stern and Irgn were resistence organizations that used terrorist tactics and at the same time were condemned by the JEwish mainstream - a fact you prefer to ignore. Israel became independent these groups were disbanded and hey blended into the mainstream political system. The IDF became with country's military wing, consisting of and representing all Israelis, regardless of cred, color or political view. What exactly are you trying to prove? When your governemtn apologizes for keeping holocaust survivors behind barbed wire for over a year in Cyprus then perhaps you can deman an apology for this instance (which by the way may have had less serious consequences if your people had taken the warning they received more seriously).

and I think you should be a bit more respectful. He made good points about you, things that what you call the regulars here have noticed a long time, especially your arrogance exhibited towards Jews in general and Israeli Jews in particular. You may try to appear pleasant, but the subtext of your posts is clear to us all. Go and play in other people's courts. Why come here to insult Israeli Jews about matters that you appear to know very little other than the need to insult Jews?

Indeed yes Richard He must have visions and prepares his day on what masterpiece he will produce to denigrate Israel.I too thank him for his endeavour,for by constantly being here at Haaretz,he does us more positively than negative. On thought crossed my mind,and that is how his poor wife feels about his obsession? And by what name does she call him?Not dear Clicky,but perhaps(Jim,Jhon,Brian,Samuel,Robert,and so many more to choose from).I am really intrigued to know this bit of info'from our dear Clickfool.But bless his heart,he is doing a sterling job for the Palis(he thinks)whereby the opposite is true as one Paleatinian from Hebron said a couple of forums ago,and named him as one who should just leave it be,for he does more damage than help the Palestinians who are doing quite well working side by side with settlers(some ar a bit difficult)but,on the whole very amenable,and they can work,make a good living.Problems began when Arafat had sent his thugs for trouble

Chanah S Do you have a thing for the nether regions of the human body. Labh-arse----Linth-twat. What weird taste you have.

Well done Charlie boy.Give not one morsel of support to the Apartheid State of Israel. Deny them the "Love " they crave. Just like a bunch of silly kids who have had their pocket money withheld.

Be happy that he is not going to Israel if you are Israeli.The man has said he wants to be a " tampon" he talks to plants and his first wife played second fiddle to a horsey looking andreoid.No other country wants him,the British don,t want him either.Clickfool and the rest of the primates who post on this site can keep him.

Your post provides the laugh of the day? You are Livni's propaganda mistress who always twists history to "his story" not relevant to anything that went on. I see you are still trying to convince Linthwaite that King David was not a zionist terrorist attack. My, what a tangled web we weave when one attempts to make BS credible. I saw your other feigned indignation on the Pope thread; I answered; don't know if it will show up, but as usual I had to respond to your BS. Carry on, carry on. Regards.

appreciative Whether Linthwaite or Clickfool. I say:My Love for Israel never diminishes ever.T The irony is some here who denigrate OUR SETTLERS and forget that according to the many Arab states who surround our Dear Country, think we are not supposed to be here at all. Something for the naysayers to contemplate. We have the likes of Tzfonit in Ben Ami as an example--forgetting that she too is concidered a settler.Think about it Tzfonit before wishing malodorous sentiments. No,you are confused in your presumption that the so-called settlers are the bane of Israel? I beg to differ and you should give it a further thought if you can and desist in demonizing them at every turn,for you are a settler no less.The whole of Israel is a one giant settler enterprise(if one has the mentality of Arabs that is)who seem to think so.Shame on the ones who adhere to this false concept...I still bless you,but with "irony"..

When hundred of thousands of European Jews asked to find refuge from the Nazis not in Britain but in Eretz Israel then under British control they were refused entery by the British authorities and by so doing Britained ensured their mass murder. This was Briain's contribution to the well being of humanity, if Jews in British eyes are considered humen that is.

Sir, I am afraid there is gross misconception - Nobody needs Charles anywhere, nobody needs to convince British, the occupiers of Palestine, on Jewish rights and,sadly, nobody needs you here, though of course you are not precluded from... PS. Probably you look soo Jewish that your Christian fellows do not accept you and you waste your time on perversity of anti-semitic rants on Jewish site. My advice - Buddism is the way.

....from Switzerland: If you wanna play "little games" next time, try at least to vary your style of writing. The "insiders" here will remember very well who you are, even if you didn't post for a few months.... As I said, only a little tip for you. And that even for free...:)

This is the debate in Chuck's mind. Do I go to Israel or don't I go to Israel? Oh I don't know...I'll ask mummy. I here when he is hosin' Camilla he's thinkin' 'bout Borat's wife in Kazakhstan...but that is for a different article. P.S. Where can you get a good Yorkshire Pudding in Israel?

Famously antisemitic words are 'some of my best friends are Jewish'. We all know that, especially given this posting of yours: Makes you wonder why on earth any Jews remain in the UK doesn`t it? Or does it? The Fat Cats are more comfortable there than in the Homeland the world gave them. You're a very bad liar and a worse debater.

in Globalresearch.ca,most instructive!Regards. Chet,the trend now is placing the shoa & the nabka together for historical study,in all the schools of thought,most notably post-modernism & cultural studies. I recently came across Dr.Abu Sitta's 10 year study Atlas of Palestine & was stunned by its depth & detail.It can be found in the reference section of any decent university library.All you need to know about the event

....maybe it's time for YOU to come out of the closet and start posting again under your real name...:) I am not going to "out" you now, but I am looking forward to the day when you will have the courage again to use your "original" name. Cheers.

Sir, So your prior statement "My mother can not stand Jews" meant "she can not stand (right wing) Jews." [:)- quite clumsy] It is nice- you are trying to modify the simple truth. It is the wholly new Universe...:) Couple of questions: 1.How does she know right-wing Jew? Let say, 2 81 years old Jewish man in Zürich street ? 2.Can she stand swiss right wingers? British? French? Italian? PS. 17 years old? I wish...:) Non nacqui in Italia

Of course the British had nothing to do with the Holocaust - but they also did nothing to stop it or to alleviate the suffering of its victims.

The Israeli people voted into power the people who perpetrated this act of terrorism, which killed many civilians, amongst them women and children. Israel is a state built on terrorism you might not like me telling you that but it is the truth. Stern and Irgun were classified by my government as terrorists, and the act of the King David Hotel was a terrorist act. It is you who is squirming over the facts of this particular event of mass murder perpertrated by the father of the Israeli foreign Minister Livni. ChanahS I said it earlier you think that the mass murder at King David Hotel was an act of liberation. We are taught in the UK it is an act of terrorism. You think you is right I know I is right. Either way until the State of Israel apologise for this act of terrorism there will never be any official visits by the British Royal Family. That is the point I am making and the point I am sticking to.

attach to people you don't like (those who challenge you without you being able to properly respond to them) as right wing Jews and the you don't like them. But I suspect, actually I much more than suspect that your negative obsession with Jews and the Jewish nation-state of Israel is derived from the fact that you simply dislike Jews. I suggest you come out of the closet and say so, first to yourself and then to the rest of us. The arrogance that you keep exhibiting is simply nauseating!

which you asked, what have I written in my post 369 that was factually not correct? Or is it that you needed a break from reading about reality and not only wishful thinking? The English and then the British have had a long history, sadly, of dealing with the Jews in a certain way that has caused many, many of us to perish. The one thing I must say, the British have not been the only ones in so doing. We continue to be targetted to be mass murdered daily, this time by your people.....!!!

How about if I send you my glasses!!! Israel is known for many things, but I am afraid that is not one of them. Charles would have been very safe. Regards.

That was yesterday,and you were remiss in putting it out.Now rectify this,and if you are stupid and put this complaint instead,then I shall be obliged to re-write it. Save me the bother.. T.Equalizer +Click What I had said in my post to you and particularly Clicky,was the fact you mentioned the word "anachronism".You see on another forum sometime ago,Clickfool had commented thus:Anyway who cares about "Monarchy"it is an Anachronism.And yet he belligerently begin by being offensive by saying:gimme,gimme,gimme! What was that comment about? Anyhow to the point.Indeed yes,Lady Diana Spenser had more in her "little pinky"by far with class than Charles could ever have. On the point of giving him the boot,well,he will never be king,and he knows it. Further than that it is useless to give it much thought whether he comes to Israel(which I would not recomend)or not...

They often find their ideological home at "respected" publications such as the Guardian, the New Statesman and even the London Review of Books.

17, I'm afraid I wasn't specific enough earlier, my beloved "mum" just doesn't like (right-wing) Jews, as you can see from my posts here, it's clearly the mother-milk..... By the way, if I consider your age (17), your "mum" was not in Italy when she gave birth to you...???...I think the oldest "mum" there gave birth at the age of 66...:) With the help of a famous doctor whose name I unfortunately don't remember anymore... It wasn't yours, right...???

Thanks for reminding us that even a primate can get a look in on this forum.Your piece was enthralling.

Stop aquirming Linthtwat - who were te women and children killed in the incident - you intentionally wrote that to mislead the public - it was not an attack on women and children in a market , but on the wing of the Kd hotel that housed the British military. The The 15 Jews and 40 Arabs killed may have been hotel staff or people working with the british military command. In addition, a warning was sent but totally ignored. It was also an act condemned by the Jewish political mainstream. So please stop insinuating things that are not there.

Your welcome Doesn't affect other aspects of my life. In fact on Thursday night I had a meal with Tony Blair, Alan Johnson, John Prescott and Jeremy Caborn. Tony assured me that the Americans are 100% behind a two state solution and he has George Bush and Dick Cheney's word on the matter. So yes you can say I have an input greater than just a few lines at Haaretz. ps it was at the KC Stadium in Hull on Thursday night if you want to check. Do you condemn terrorism from wherever it comes. Do you also accept that the UK had nothing to do with the Holocaust. Or do you wish to rewrite history?

"British society is not organised on racial lines"

I don't care a damn, and this uncles daughter who lives in Israel cares even less. Just setting the record straight - is that a reason to get nasty?

It's hardly surprising that Prince Charles could not contemplate an official visit to Israel because of its state sponsored oppression and violence. When a shred of humanity is demonstrated to the those whose lands are illegally occupied by settlers and their supporters - maybe people will look differently at Israel.

if you knew anything about history you would know this is somewhat true. You have demonstrated a serious lack in the knowledge of history and the understading of historcal process on several levels and in all most all subjects. Obviously your opinions are based on propoganda rather than on well thought out opinions based on fact.

"They are so conveniently forgetting that it was partly Britain who gave them their state-also stipulating that a Palestinian state should be created also as you probably know" And as you know, the Jews in Palestine accepted the partition plan while the Arabs did not, prefering to attack the fledgling state of Israel in the hope of destroying it. After constantly resisting independence, refusing to solve the issue of a Palestinian state and repeatedly over the years attacking Israel at every opportunity for any excuse, it annoys me when the Palestinians cry "we're the victims" even as the send missiles into Israel (collective punishment on innocent civilians) daily and keep attacking the border crossing, thus shooting themselves in their own feet.

As to your comment to Chanah that the barbed wire was a "nice touch": the British sent Jewish refugees from the Nazis who attempted to to reach Palestine to detention camps where they were "interned behind barbed wire." (Hamilton, God, Guns, and Israel, Sutton, 2004, p. 231). Churchill himself opposed keeping them behind barbed wire, and his private secretary, John Martin, warned against imprisoning them in a "British Dachau." (Segev, One Palestine, Complete, Holt, 2000, p. 459). Nice touch from Mr. Martin.

My mother's brother came to Israel on the SS Exodus - they were incarcerated in Cyprus for over a year.

Christopher Sykes, a British author, wrote that the British restrictions on immigration of Jews to Palestine in the 1939 White Paper "limited yet further what little opportunity existed for Jewish escape from Nazi tyranny." (quoted in Tessler, History of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, Indiana U. Press, 1994, p. 246). Jews who attempted to reach Palestine during this period to escape the Nazis came on overcrowded boats, with insufficient provisions, water, and sanitary faciliities." (Segev, One Palestine, Complete, Segev, Holt, 2000, p.458). A British official ordered one such boat returned to the high seas after misleading Churchill about its seaworthiness. (ibid., pp. 459-460). It sank. All but one of its 769 passengers died. During this same war period, the Jewish Agency gave British authorities a list of 134,000 Jews in Palestine who wanted to serve in the British army. This was one out of every two men of military age and 20,000 women. (ibid., p. 450).

more about them please? Here in Canada there is a similar trend among "leftists", but in order to be part of it you must be either an islamist or an anti-semite. I am a socialist but neither one of the other two. Is this also the trend in europe?

So King Abdullah visits the Royals. A nineteen year old girl is raped 14 times by 7 men and is awarded 200 lashes and 2 months imprisonment for enetering an unrelated person's car. Yes this is Saudi Arabia, friend to the Prince. It's almost a compliment to think that Charles won't be visiting Israel. Please everyone, it must be obvious to all by now that there are permanent visitors to this blog whose sole aim in life is to despise Jews. So let them.They are parasites and cannot exist without negative response. There is no real logic in racism. A failed actress, a scrounger (Shnorrer) reliant on our handouts etc.. leave them to their problems and don't respond. Do you really think you can affect their thinking. We're none of us that persuasive or gifted.

and particularly I like your mentioning the home of the neo-socialists in Britain, the new class of anti-semites of Europe.

thanks chris and click, from the bottom of my heart and from all other Israelis for being there. we can always count on you to read and research anything that concerns Israel and Israelis. chris and click, you are true friends, always there when ever the name Israel hits the fan. sometimes I wonder if it doesn't border on a compulsive disorder but i am not a psychiatrist to diagnose an OCD. thank you chris linthwaite and the fool for your loyalty, devotion and interest. keep it up friends. for haaretz and the forum editors you are their biggest asset. always there, always spunky, always writing. hope it doesnt interfere with other aspects of your life if they exist.

Quite why the British are now trying to justify their favouritism toward the arabs in 1948 is a mystery.The refusal to allow Jews to enter Palestine was anti semitism at its most disgusting.The foreign office and indeed the whole country is permeated by anti semitism.The arabs are interlopers in Palestine ariving long after the Jews and now claiming millenia of history there.Rubbish: the mandate immigration figures held by the British show how arabs immigrated from all over arabia to get work with the British and with Jews on Kibbutzim.The fantasy of a group of arabs called Palestinians is just that,a perverse fantasy.Nobody wanted the British in 1948 and nobody wants big ears to visit Israel now: lets hope the old "tampon" and his hag stay in the UK.

The Arabs of Beit Jala and Nablus etc. must feel forgotten by the wily Prince.If he were to visit these privileged arabs who live in a country with an excellent health service and a fine democracy big ears might have to return to the blighted isle and report on what he had seen.He would have seen that arabs are not disadvantaged in Israel and it is not an apartheid state like the majority of the arab countries.Lebanon refuses to allow arabs who have been resident there for years the opportunity to study and bans them from 73 professions.The whining arabs who persistently lash out at Israel in a knee jerk fashion are amongst the most privileged in the world.Palestinian Brit knows that,knows that there can be peace tomorrow,knows that he would easily find work in Israel or help setting up a business in Beit Jala.Palestinian Brit knows that Israel and the arabs are in fact best friends and could have a great future were it not for politicians and some absurd sense of pride.

If everyone is in denial why did Benyamin Nethanyahoo celebrate the attack on the King David Hotel. I think this time you are being economical with the truth. As for the UK putting people in internment camps for attempting to enter Palestine illegally. Nice little embellishment you put there holocaust survivors indeed they were. They were also illegal immigrants. Is it designed to garner sympathy especially the barbed wire nice touch that. 91 people died at the King David Hotel Chanah and 45 were injured. Including 28 British and 41 Arabs and perversly 17 Jews Yet you expect us to believe that every single one of them was in the military. Who is embellishing now Chanah? Selecting facts in history does your argument no favours, I suggest you read some books. And I will tell you again Israeli Jews cannot blow British citizens up in terrorist attacks,(including women and children) and not apologise and expect things to carry on as normal

Actually I have lots of Jewish friends - left wing of course! However, as I have lived under ISRAELI occupation for the past umpteen years, I think I have a right to complain, and speak from personal experience. Come over here and see for yourself. I guess all you have to complain about in London is the weather!

The King David hotel bombing in July 22,1946 was an attack against the Criminal Investigation Division(police) and military command by the Irgun ordered by Menachem begin.91 people died:28 British,41 Arab,17 Jewish and 5 others.Jewish leaders worldwide,including those in Palestine,condemned the attack, as they should,despite the severe limitations placed on Jewish immigration to Palestine by the British and the desperate situation of the Holocaust survivors in refugee camps in Europe.

"He did have a kind of great uncle (his grandmother`s first cousin) who was married to a Jewish woman." You may be right, I couldn't care less. Why are you and Fed-Up so concerned about Charles's distant relations? In the UK, non-Jews and Jews marry every day and no one thinks twice about it. It is of no interest to anyone except the families involved. British society is not organised on racial lines. British passports give nationality as 'British'.

'Uncle' and 'great-uncle' do not mean the same. It is a different relationship. Don't you have a dictionary? Why are you so concerned about Charles's great-uncle's wife's grandfather being Jewish? Weird!

Quite right. Keep the WOGS under control. They can't be allowed to run things for themselves. They might think that they are just as good as Englishmen and that would never do!