Dubai not ruling out Mossad hand in murder of Hamas official

It's just truly amazing the amount of vermin you allow to respond on talkback, this is called democracy in overdrive, you are either too stupid to realize that these human scumbags are using your newspaper to express their feelings which is complete hatred of Israel, and everything 'The Jewish State' stands for. it's also possible that your paper is so left wing that you have forgotten that you are Israeli's, so mabe you should shift your newspaper to Iran who I'm sure would welcome you with open arms for the wonderful work that you are carrying out in furthering their propaganda war against israel.

So,he first strangled himself(which chocked him to death)Then woke up and electrocuted himself. Curiouser and curiouser.And just like a prestidigitator all rolled into ONE huh? DIAGNOSIS? Suicide.Thanks for the laugh. Of course I know you are joking oui?

Looks like suicide, doesn't it ?

Firstly Dutch will side with THE DEVIL so long as she bashes Israel. Now on the subject: I can understand the electrocution...Still not dead? Then burning the body...not dead? When it comes to strangling him,and put a pillow was understandable...just to choke the complete daylights out of him. The pillow is applicable for smothering his breath once and for all. Absurd to think Mossad would be so inept by using such outmoded and repetitive means to kill him. No finesse at all which does not apply to Mossad. They are fast and very efficient if and when they carry out the jobs Ridiculous to even assume it was one of our own. Briefly put Mossad would hardly try to upset the Minister?s visit to an Arab country where Israel is trying a ?rapprochement?. Some even think it might have been to obtain the whereabouts of Shalit. If that is the case they made a mess of it. Nah, nah. Not Mossad .The assumption is totally out of character. Their professionalism is second to none. Over kill? So the fine young gentleman was: 1. poisened AND 2. electrocuted AND 3. suffocated with a pillow? Sure sounds like overkill to me :-) Then Maan in a very short article says he had cancer. Whatever will they think of next.

can we expect an apology or appropriate condemnation or suddenly you dont care do you

Fery, there is a big difference between the Jews of Europe and the Pals. The Jews never attacked the Germans, Austrians, Slavs. The Pals attacked Jews visciously and when Jews prevailed in a war brought to them, their attackers, some of whom no doubt left their homes in fear, did not come back. This was in the expectation that Israel would be liquidated. Many years later there is a desire to be compensated by the intended victims. And in the mix, of course, are the many Jewish victims that were excluded from Arab states, victims whose property was expropriated without compensation. The numbers of these Jews was far greater than the number of Palestinians who left Israel. Israel took these Jews in voluntaily and bore the expense of starting up their lives. This complicates you suggestion enormously, though there is room for something to be done by both Israel and the relevant Arab states but certainly not just by Israel.

A Scottish Saying: "Believe none of what you Hear,& only Half of what you see !"

Talk about democracy and innocent until proven guilty,I suppose you have all the necessary evidence that it was the Mossad.

....and put those assassins away for life for the shocking death of this man. In a demcocracy all persons are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Even the lowly CIA members know this and that they are accountable under international law and US laws. Dutch

you (& others) may be right that one can't take a bit of info like this from the times & just trust it at face value, although fragments like this definitely often are leaked to the press on purpose for this /that reason. on the other hand i don't think it's that important whether the israelis are behind this assassination /not or whether this in fact is one. what is important though is that they could be behind it. they couldn't have pulled off the mugnieh from hezbollah takeout in damascus, but this one i think they could. btw, have you moved to davos /just vacationing? i wonder what lovely switzerland must look like these extremely snowy days. it's snowy & out of line w/everything usual here as well. hope it starts thawing soon.

And the forensic evidence to prove this is...? And the name of the "drug that induced a heart attack" was...? All this sounds to me about as credible as the imbecilic ravings of Al-Mabhouh's brother alleging "a massive electric shock sustained to the head". When will these people stop living in a fantasy world?

Dear Petr, When will your country compensate the millions of Germans and Hungarians displaced and dispossesed under the Bebes law? What about the Jewish properties stolen from them?? I guess, you will be VERY SILENT!!

Dont you all love all the juicy and highly classified James Bond information given via the Times, especially this part which really caught my eye; Al-Mabhouh, who was the official responsible for arranging arms supplies from Iran to Gaza, was tracked from the moment he boarded Emirates flight EK 912 at Damascus at 10.05 on January 19, the Times reported. Goodness gracious me, these titbit's are what makes a fable sound so true. Good day from extremely snowy Switzerland.

My father is a Polish citizen and my mother is a German citizen and they never got back thier parents properties Mr# 15 what is your rsponse to this reality

And how about lets start thinking the holy palastinion brothers send him to paradise because the hamas stole thier land

transfer land back to the jews? excuse me but have you not got enough money from the europeans and the americans and canadians that now you want them to give you land? u see when you try using that line it tells me that you think u deserve more money. so this is my thought. u never lived during WWII u probably r the grandchild of a survivor. in which u never suffered but you want the europeans to return your land that they actually over paid for in the first place when ur people sifted them from their tax dollars for the past 60 years. u got billions of dollars but thats not enough. seems to me that you never seem to get enough of our tax dollars.

Of course David thinks british news is to blame because they eat up hamas lies. Well now thats a nice change don't you think? after all they usually eat up isrls lies. Are you going to accuse them of being anti-semitic now?

so hamas cries foul accusing isreal of breaking the rules by whacking a terrorist on foriegn soil...they threaten to kill isrealis abroad as "just retaliation" for the alleged violation of assasin protocol...well excuse me but what about black september's cowardly murder of the isreali athletes in munich at the olympics...hamas you are a bunch of stupid losers who do not even know the history of terror!

The Arabs attacked Israel and lost territory in wars they initiated. Europe's Jews were slaughtered for being Jews. The 11th century Rabbi Shlomo ben Yitzhak of Troyes ("Rashi") influenced by the massacre of Jews in the Rhineland by the Crusaders en route to the Holy Land reminds us "One day the nations of the world will tell the Jews, this land is ours; you stole it from us. And we will reply: the land belongs to God; He alone has the right to say who will live there. And He gave this land to us." (Quoted in Elie Wiesel, Rashi, 2009).

Then why did they need to enter on forged European passports? That would have been unusual -- if they were part of his entourage then it would have been unusual that they didn't have Israeli passports. Also, if Israeli spies can enter Dubai on forged European passports -- which presumably they can -- then why would they do so and carry out an assassination right at the time when the Israeli Minister was visiting very publicly? I suspect there is more to this story -- possibly the involvement of another Arab nation or even Hamas itself, using the public cover of the Israeli visit.

You are probably right. It is always so easy to blame Israel as to blind its own people (Hamas). Of course the usual Israel bashers are always so happy to jump onto the train.

RE:. live in harmony as in the past. You must be kidding. Please look at the history of your own country.

Please read: How Israel's Tourism Minister spends a 'work week' in Spain

I tend to agree with the x-military comment. It does not behoove Israel to assasinate ANYONE in Dubai or any other UAE country. After all Israel wants to build up good relations with the UAE. I think this was an inside job within hamas or an organization that was miffed at this man.

can anyone please find out, WHAT POISON they have found in the body ?

Fir the delay of 10 days before the announcement. Then electric shock to the head...whatever that means?...and strangulation. Now, injected with a drug that caused a heart attack? The UAE authorities say they can't rule anybody out. So like I said at the beginning we will probably never know who did it. But since some here like the playing the guessing game, I'll say he was killed because of infighting within the terrorists groups.

Hamas brigades founder dies in exile Published Wednesday 20/01/2010 (updated) 31/01/2010 15:35 [MaanImages]Gaza ? Ma'an ? Hamas' armed wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades, announced the death of its co-founder in exile Mahmoud Al-Mabhuh, who died of terminal cancer in a hospital in the United Arab Emirates on Wednesday

UAE or other primitive Arabs ? They all stagnate or live off the oil , very little human resources . They need Israel much more then Israel needs them . So don't make conclusions , Israel is booming just fine without those backwards .

If we were intelligent we wouldn't be here. There are three kinds of people here on talkback: Antisemites,Extreme right winged Jewish fruit cakes and those who just can't accept racial prejudice.

Isn't it just possible that he coulda been whacked by any of the lovely people he associated with?

Even the Christmas Day bomber is innocent until proven guilty, even though there are hundreds of people who witnessed his attempt to murder them. In Dubai, there are no witnesses, no proof...just conspiracy speculation and the "statement" by hamas (which routinely lies), and the talk-backers here jump on the brainless bandwagon of "Zionist conspiracy!" without actually thinking for themselves. I thought only right-wing neo-con religious Americans didn't undertake critical thinking. I guess it just goes to show who the real useful idiots in the world are.

BBC 1 August 2001 "Israel's Assassination Policy" Israel has always claimed the right to selectively assassinate its enemies. A dentist, Thabet Thabet, senior official in the West Bank health service and leading political figure in Fatah... Massoud Ayad, one of Arafat's bodyguards was assassinated. 1987 Israel assassinated Abu Jihad, PLO miliary leader and second in command. 1999 two Israeli agents were arrested in Jordan following a botched attempt to poison a leading member of Hamas. Israeli military officials made "initiated attacks" official policy, November 1999. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1258187.stm The same BBC article stated Palestinian officials said about 60 individuals had been assassinated since the start of the then Palestinian uprising/intifada. Several belonged to Yasser Arafat's Fatah political faction. How safe does Mr Abbas' Fatah feel today?

The Arabs attacked Israel and lost territory in wars they initiated. Europe's Jews were slaughtered for being Jews. The 11th century Rabbi Shlomo ben Yitzhak of Troyes ("Rashi")influenced by the massacre of Jews in the Rhineland by the Crusaders en route to the Holy Land reminds us "One day the nations of the world will tell the Jews, this land is ours; you stole it from us. And we will reply: the land belongs to God; He alone has the right to say who will live there. And He gave this land to us." (Quoted in Elie Wiesel, Rashi, 2009).

I live in Dubai, and I can tell you that the Al Bustan Rotana which is close to the airport is an average hotel in Dubai. You can get a room for 700 AED ($150) for a night! Its not the Burj Al Arab!!!

Karl and Email the 'antidote. A peasant for a King or a Peasant for three Kings.

Fery, did you notice that there are 6 million Jews who are permanently unable to reclaim their lost property? And by the way, unlike the Palesitinians, who could have kept their property if they had accepted a 2 state solution, and who chose instead to launch a genocidal war against the Jewish inhabitants of Palestine, the Jewish victims of the holocaust could do nothing to avert their death sentence, and did nothing to merit their persecution. Your grotesque analogy bespeaks severe mental deficiency.

to pin point mossad is a good pretext to transfer the rules of the game to other countries. he who did it wanted exactly that.

while breaking international laws. Does anyone, except Hamas and the leftist loons really care?

"Hamas should be thrilled Israel doesn`t stoop to their level." Did you forget about Operation Cast Lead where Israel did stoop to Hamas's level. That's why there will be no follow up investigations into Cast Lead.

First who really thinks Israel would be so ignorant to sneak a hit squad into an Arab country at the same time as an Israeli official was present at the first publically recognized visit? duh! This is an act of the inner circles of Hama?s or Fatah seeking to discredit Israel and an attempt to prevent other such ?official? visits of Israeli officials to Arab countries.

may kidnappers and murderers live in fear,amen

I'm naturaly suspicious of anything published in the Sunday Times, but if there really was a hit squad of 7 people with European passports, that does sound like Mossad. I can't imagine any Hamas faction or arms criminals going to such elaborate lengths. They'd just have walked in and killed him if they wanted to.

The key words are "it could...".How many times was he "neutralized"???At first he was electrocuted and strangled,now he was injected probably with Postassium Chloride, or with an air buble(It's much cheaper,quicker and leaves no traces...).No matter how,it was much overdue. That's how every one of the terrorists should be sent to allah's gardens...

Dangle a couple of million dollars to buy a expensive villa in dubais battered real estate sector....they will deny the dead guy ever landed in dubai.... an example how free market works in dubai....lol

There never has been a Palestine run be a Pal gov't. That is because Palestinians are merely an artificial group of Syrian, Lebanese, Jordanian & other Arabs that have been invented to prevent the First Peoples of that area, Jews, from getting land back that they were deprived of by occupation and then dispersion. Not only that, but in the dispersion they were treated barbarically, including in your homeland, but most especially in the homelands of the Pals, Syria, Jordan, etc. plus all other Islamic countries. So, the answer is No. Jews will take care of their own security and Israel, unlike anywhere else in the world, they have a fighting chance.

For Our own safety,, Us EUropean Unions Members will have to stop the Israelis/Gazans/Lebanese coming in our countries and fighting their dirty wars among us, Please Stay away from us, WE want to live in Peace. I blame all the country in this world for NOT SOLVING this long standing conflick.

The cause of death went from "natural" to electrocution of the head, to strangulation, to poison, to injection of a heart attack antidote. All within a week. The same week that Hamas was telling the world that all missiles fired into Israel were intended for IDF, and only poor guidance was responsible for falling on civilians. Yet, the story was gospel for the rabid Lefties to spew out their venom.

The difference between what Germany, and other former NAZI countries did and Israel, is clear. If you are too ignorant to realize it, you need to taught. Hopefully (though doubtful) you will learn something. NAZI's ordered the systemic genocide of a people. They're goal was total extermination. Israel has extended its hand in peace to Arab states for 60 years. It is the ONLY country EVER asked to return land to an aggressor nation after capturing it in a DEFENSIVE war. Palestine never existed as a state at any time in history. A Palestinian Arab is no different than a Jordanian. Jordan comprised the majority of the Palestinian Mandate. Therefore reparations are not required from Israel. Since the 1960's Arafat led a terror group that's goal was to destroy Israel. At no time was he a partner for peace. With Hamas and Hezbollah there is still no partner. As for the guy in the UAE...probably died naturally and Hamas wants political hay

Should look at this article in Ma'an News from January 20: Hamas brigades founder dies in exile Published Wednesday 20/01/2010 (updated) 21/01/2010 12:45 Gaza- Ma?an ? Hamas? armed wings the Al-Qassam Brigades announced the death of its co-founder in exile Mahmoud Al-Mabhuh died of terminal cancer in a hospital in the UAE on Wednesday. http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=255640 This certainly puts a different light on things, doesn't it?

And it would not be the first or second time Israel has embarrassed Arab quasi-allies with provocative actions shortly after meeting with them.

Precisely what part of the past history of the Middle East does Petr Vojta consider harmonious? The Ottoman Empire,perhaps?

eric youre seeing too many james bond movies ! how did the alleged killers get into his hotel room ? no signs of a struggle were repoted from the post mortem ?

"I suppose there is no chance he just died of a heart attack is there?" In the Middle East? Unassisted? Not likely. Got to have someone to blame or it's not newsworthy.

I have read accounts that he was strangled, electrocuted, blown-up and now suffered a drug-induced heart attack. That is more means of assassination than it took to do in Rasputin. Or it is one deep pile of Bravo Sierra.

gue ,kidnapped from his hotel room by your Secret Police and murdered ? He was no terrorist but a leader of a Jewish organisaion from NY visiting your Chechoslovakia in 1967. The murderers are probably still alive and walking in Prag ,protected by the authorithies even after so many years. Apply your slogans to own people ,Petr the Chekh.

In the past the HAMAS response was immediate , I wonder why it is not so now !?!

Fery, I do appreciate German self-righteousness but Jews didn't "leave" anything behind during or after WW2. It was "taken". Please look up the distinction in a dictionary if you don't understand it. The Palestinians are one group of people who "left" land behind, in their case, out of fear of democracy, peace, equality, etc...

The value of the assets left behind by the almost 1 million Jews kicked out of Arab countries far outweighs that of the Arabs who fled Israel (mostly at the behest of their leaders who promised to get rid of the Jews and allow them to return)after 1948. DOn't you think the JEws too deserve to be compensated for this? And yes, after eliminating a third of our people and confiscating their property, Europe should be doing just that - making reparations.

Domectic dispute or natural causes. Heart attack, entirely plausable.

It's VERY likely that it was the MOSSAD, particularly with the use of a heart attack drug which took nine days to discover, not to mention the obvious fact that Netanyahu was at the helm when another assassination attempt in another Arab country was botched - remember Khaled Meshaal and the poison behind the ear in the mid nineties in Jordan?? Also, I don't believe that Uzi Landau's visit was necessarily related since the murderers could have come in at any time with their fake passports - just a coincidence most likely.

From areas conquered by the Arab armies. In fact the Arabs got the vast majority of the British mandate of Palestine where most of the land title was NOT Arab but vested in the crown. If you do not have citizenship or take up foreign residency many countries will refuse redincy rights. A green card is lost after prolonged abscence.

Although Israel might have wanted this Hamas agent dead,they are not so stupid as to cary out this murder in UAE. The consequences far outhweigh the benefits of this action.He was propobly killed because of internal Hamas squable over money, or he owed money to some weapon smuglers.

The Sunday Time is a Murdoch rag. As such, it's a conduit for all sorts of information that US, UK and Israeli intelligence agencies want to put out to the public, like all the WMD lies. However, it's also a conduit for right-wing rubbish that journalists make up to sell newspapers. And just sometimes its stories are true. Hard to know which category all this infromation falls into.

There are any number of motives for reprisal against Hamas Egyptians for terrorist bombing of Red sea resort. Fatah for torture murders of Fatah members in Gaza. A "deal" gone wrong.etc. Await your" beyond reasonable doubt" evidence.

There is more business going on between Israel and the "moderate" Arab states than you can imagine.

This, i.e. giving back what Jews left after WW2 is going on in Germany, Austria, Tchech ans Slovak Republics. This is humanity, unlike the Israeli pattern. There, where Palestinians lost everything, they never got back one inch of land since 1948. On the contrary, Palestinians with Israeli ID, who goes out of Jerusalem and other occupied territories since 1967 are prevented to go back to their cities and towns, especially students in Europe and USA.This is justice made in Israel.

certainly the more interesting part of this story - that is not subject to hypotheses or speculation - and has not been denied by Hamas, is the contrast between this luxurious lifestyle and the poverty suffered by the people of Gaza. Will the Palestinians ever get a moral leadership?

Are you kidding? I suppose there is no chance he just died of a heart attack is there?

whether the assassins were israeli or not, the timing of his murder was based entirely on HIS visit to dubai and on opportunity. for the landau visit to have been connected with his murder, knowledge of his intended visit to dubai at the time he did would have had to be known by the israelis well in advance...which isn't very likely. and actually, if indeed the killers WERE israeli agents, the timing of their opportunity with the landau visit would be a less than desired coincidence because of its implications.

attack drug. This guy should of had body guards,so I suspect that he was taken out by one of his own. Expensive Hotel,now we know where the donated money goes. Blame Israel,an excuse for a terrorist attack.

I find this to be a perfect example of Hamas's hypocrisy- assuming this is the doing of Israel, targeted assassination is breaking the rules but blowing yourself up on a crowded bus with children and civilians isn't breaking the rules?? Hamas should be thrilled Israel doesn't stoop to their level. Next thing we know, Al Quaida will complain to the world when they die in the field.

I realy thought that in this so called wonderfull sub-section of this world called "The Western World",one is innocent until proven guilty, yet these these brilliant so called neutral intelligent talk backers, have already & empahaticaly blamed Israel for this deed without a scrap of proof. How very very intelligent and Democratic.I am not sure if I want to laugh or cry.

How do they know that the assassins photographed the documents in his briefcase? Did they leave a note saying "Ha, ha we took pictures of these documents," or were the documents written on Magic Paper [tm] that changes color after it's been photographed?

Petr, You are right, transfer this land back and let the people live like they had been, in harmony! But wait a second, does that mean that you will transfer your stolen land back to the Jews and let them live in harmony in Europe?

It's so quaint how the British love eating Hamas's lies with their afternoon tea.

These people steal the people's money and live at hotels charging 700 EU / $1,000 a night.

Humanity / including Truth Judaism / will pay dearly, if fanatical regime occupaing part of Palestine will continue with its insane policy. Let us hope that Unity against arrogant Zionism will help Jews, Semites and others rather sooner, transfer this "part of the world" into place where all people regardles... live in harmony as in the past. Petr czech

So, how is the Arab world supposed to embrace Israeli visits by leaders to their countries when Israel uses them to send assassins? This is a big embarassment and humiliation for the UAE government because this occurred on their soil. I hope it was worthit, because Uzi Landau will be the last Israeli leader allowed to visit the UAE or anywhere else in the Arab World for that matter.

"the first ever visit to the Arab Emirates by an Israeli minister." and this is what you bring? an assassination squad! it is very clear that the state of Israel has no interest in peace with the Arabs.

So, of course, what they printed is exactly what happened. God bless the Britih press. They never ever lie, exagerate or misinform.