VIDEO / IHH leader tells Gaza flotilla activists to 'throw IDF soldiers into the sea'
New footage released by the Foreign Ministry shows IHH leader Bulent Yildirim rallying dozens of passengers on board the Mavi Marmara as they chant 'millions of martyrs marching to Gaza!'
By Haaretz Service Tags: Gaza flotillaThe Foreign Ministry released a new video on Friday in which the leader of the Foundation for Human Rights and Freedoms and Humanitarian Relief, Bulent Yildirim, is seen on board the Gaza flotilla's ship the Mavi Marmara, telling dozens of activists to throw Israeli commandos overboard if they attempt to board the ship.
"If they board our ship, we will throw them into the sea, Allah willing!" says Yildirim, the head of the Turkish pro-Palestinian group that sent an aid flotilla to Gaza last month.
The video was shot on board the Mavi Marmara on May 30 by one of the passengers before the Israel Defense Forces raided the ship and killed nine Turkish activists during clashes.
"If we show fear, they will win once again….we don't want to be recorded in Allah's book as cowards," says Yildirim in the video, as dozens of passengers are seen chanting ""millions of martyrs marching to Gaza!"
"They (Israel) are so weak that for 4-5 days they have been engaging in propaganda (against us)…they have been humiliated in front of the whole world… now they are saying that they will launch a fleet (against us)… that they will send the commandos here (to the ship)."
"And we say: 'If you send the commandos, we will throw you down from here and you will be humiliated in front of the whole world," Yildirim tells the passengers.
On Wednesday, Israel added the IHH to its terror watch list following the events of the Gaza-bound flotilla.
IHH told members of the European Parliament it has assembled six ships for its next flotilla and asked others to join its effort to break through Israel's blockade of Gaza.
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Israel Navy forces approach one of six ships of an aid flotilla bound for Gaza on May 31, 2010. |
| Photo by: Reuters |
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How does this prove that they're not peaceful lol Israel come on stop trying already. You have failed to convince the world that attacking unarmed civilians in international waters and killing nine people is self defense. They had every right throw them into the sea because IDF ad no right to do what it did. Israel was the attacker not the flotilla!
What are the rights Israel has?
Egypt should shape up its Egyptian parliement member for supporting terrorists nationwide - USA and the rest of the world saw clearly that the flottilla ship was not a humanitarian aids. Israel supplies tons and tons of humanitarian aids to Gaza on a regular basis.
They count themselves as martyrs not because they are planning agitation but are getting ready for Israeli response that could possibly be violent.
Peaceful, unarmed people are talking about self-defence. So what? At least they are not saying that they will shoot the commandos or kill them?
the activists have repeatedly mentioned that they would resist the boarding of their ship peacefully, with their own bodies. No weapons, no deadly force, even if they knew that such force would be used against them. I think that is honorable, legal, and deserves respect.
that nobody except Israelis in the ALL world is denying the right for the activists on the boat to defend themselves. EVERYBODY knows people on the boat were activists ready to fight with Israelis troops. the mistake was to shoot them dead like animals in international waters.
Like animals with steel rods, knives, and very, very nasty and dangerous.
A solider in a life-threatening situation should fire. the solidiers showed remarkable bravery agreeing to come on board without their primary weapons drawn. don't test the patience of a commando soldier.
All I read is a bunch of people preparing to 'defend' themselves by all means if attacked. Isn't this what is taught to Israeli? I am sure they would do the same thing if they have been attached by Somali pirates. In fact American killed Somali pirates when they boarded the American Ship "Maersk Alabama". Remember? They (American) have been welcome as 'Heros' for doing this: --> "The crew soon used "brute force" to retake control of the ship, as Chief Engineer Mike Perry, brandishing a knife tackled the ringleader of the pirates and took him prisoner after a cat and mouse chase in a darkened engine room..."
The Religion of Peace as seen behind closed doors.
The leader says "few have this opportunity" to be on the boat. Then he tells them over and over that they do not want to be written in allah"s book as cowards. Who falls for that. It is laike a big brother manipulation a little brother to do something they both know is wrong. Is this what islam is about? Honestly, I am now not at all baffled by the rediculous actions islamic states commit. The people on this flotilla realize that if they stopped islamic historical revisionism from the powers that be all of this wouldn't even be an issue. Islam has no rights to the lands of Israel.
Nothing wrong with what he said. They didn't intend to attack Israel. They were attacked by Israeli commandos in the core of their home, the Mavi Marmara. All the people of the free world would try to rebel attacks carried out by anyone who dares to enter their own homes. Israel did a big mistake that can't be swallowed by any logic-thinking people. What Israel now shows, is one video that she thinks it can sell, while it keeps anything else confiscated that shows how cruel the attacker were! Lies have short life. Get it finally!
Not sure this shows anything except that the flotilla people were totally committed and steadfast in their belief in what they were doing...don't hear them chanting for the destruction of israel or killing jews etc.... if the extent of their threats were to throw a commando off a boat if they were boarded, that seems to indicate that they had no seious violent intentions.
They stripped metal rods from the sides of the boat. They hijacked the boat against the wish of the captain.
I have watched this video now on various occassions and apart from the commet to, throw Isreal into the sea , there is no mention of killing IDF forces . It seems to be very poor PR to justify what happened !
None of the people talks about killing anybody ... Israeli soldiers are expected to know how to swim... Soldiers were surely conditioned to see folks to knee down in front of them.. They were suprised to see turks striking without any weapon It true that Turkey should apologise to israeli soldiers for having shocked them ... Poor soldiers :)
frankly speaking I dont belive tht passengers on mavi marmara and Yildirim has any intention for peace .. they are provacator for sure. but pls note tht , ısraeli soldiers should not kill anyone in this ship , they could only wound or somehow to stop those people without killing.
don't worry. There are going to be facts and you will see that as regrettable as loss of life was, Israelis faced choice of being killed or defend their lives with live fire. Remember, the first 3 commando surrendered to these people without using live ammo to preserve lives of passengers, at the expense of defending selves with full might. Something happened afterwards. We will see and know. One thing you should have learned about Israelis, we are fair, we do not run, and we tend to bend over with our opponents. I think it's this expectation of "bend over" that is playing joke on rest of people here. They thought we will bend further... like die. The fact that is abundantly clear, these people were on a suicide mission. This is not "humanitarian". Humanitarians defend lives, including own. Shedding blood in suicide mission is an act of war.
why don't you put that on the IDF videos - to show there are other people, including Turkey who come in peace
The blockade is illegal, very simple, try at least to understand the other side.
it is considered turkish soil an israelis are not allowed in. I thought Israel went out of Gaza. The ship was heading to Gaza and not to Israel. If Israel not an occupying power in Gaza anymore, so what the hell are you doing on a turkish ship in international water...
soldiers have any right to be dropped on a civilian ship in international waters ?
This video does not prove intent to kill. It only proves one thing: they were concerned that they might be killed, which is indeed what happened to 9 of them.
If they knew that they may be martyred they proceed with recklessness and new the consequence might materialise. When you beat people with guns in the face with metal poles and stab them and lynch them you should reasonably know that they are going to shoot you. Even the cutest little bird or bunny rabbit would do everything in its power to stop a lethal assault on it person or body
Which shows a deep bravery which puts world leaders and governments to shame. These people were willing to take that chance to help the helpless. How many of us could do it?
Some portions of this video are not translated. A full and accurate transcript is necessary.
what does this video tell us? that human rights activists aboard a civilian vessel in international waters intended to defend themselves if they were illegally attacked by armed men? how shocking...
they weren't coming aboard for a friendly chat. throwing them into the sea was their only option
Jews are not allowed to defend themselves. It's a crime.
to any civilian vessel in international waters: if armed thugs try to illegally board your ship, throw them into the sea.
you all talk about how they are defending themselves and are volunteers. But in a BBC article 3 days before sailing the group made a public statement that its intentions were not to get aid to Gaza but to create conflict with Israel to bring the world news down on Israel to create animosity from the world. If you cannot open your eyes, then keep your mouth shut.
This is NOT a reason to kill the Turks unless IDF planned for it beforehand !!
3 members of the Irish government were prevented from boarding Marmara at Cyprus.
I went on the Gaza Freedom March last December. Before I left I made sure my will was up to date. I did this because I am aware that the IDF would have no problem shooting an unarmed American woman trying to end the inhuman siege of Gaza. Is that a martyr? No, I had no desire to die, but I knew I had to do what my own government won't and that is end this horrible siege. The Israeli Foreign Ministry is pandering to Islamophobia for the right wingers in Israel and the US with their latest "release". Why did the IDF take all the film footage from the reporters (& passengers) on the flotilla. So the flotilla folks aren't all pacifists, they never claimed to be. I never made it out of Cairo, let alone into Gaza, but I will try again and I will support others who try to end the siege. I support equal human rights for all in Israel/Palestine. If I am complicit with silence when my government supports racism & anti-semitism, I am guilty.
What's wrong with throwing a pirate, vandal, and lawbreaker in the sea?
Lost in translation on purpose. What do you want them to say, invite them to lunch.
when you attack soldiers regardless of what you think of their actions - you're no longer a peaceful protester. When you defend a ship from being boarded by the Navy, regardless of what you think about the legality of the boarding - you are no longer an innocent peaceful passenger. When you try to break a blockade (which is a military operation) you are no longer a civilian. And when you are not a peaceful innocent civilian passenger, when you are engaging troops involved in a military conflict - YOU DIE!!!
IDF acted CORRECTLY and RESPONSIBLY.
Which is preferable would you say ? ( A ) being pushed into the sea, or ( B ) shot dead by a commando dropping on your ship in the middle of the night wearing a balaclava ? And in international waters too. Israel -- please operate by the same laws as the rest of the world -- or you WILL get called pirates,
the video shows the IHH was correct -- Israel was humiliated in the eyes of the world, they started a propoganda campaign against the Flotilla, they sent commandos, at least 9 on the boat were martyred, and a few commandos got thrown over board.
So what? What is the point of this video? Do you suggest that this is a military briefing against the army of Israel!? He simply says that if commandos were to invade the ship, we would send them back to the sea. Come on and grow up. Be wiser my friends. You simply look like a miserable kid trying to justify himself after shattering a valuable vase by a soccer ball. You simply should not have played soccer in that room! That simple.
If someone car jacks you and has a gun you throw them out of the car and drive off. You don't wait to be killed.
Of course, this footage only adds to the official Israeli attempts to demonize all of the activists--though this still doesn't show and desire to kill soldiers. And, I can't help but wonder what incriminating footage we could see if the activists had had access to footage and communications from the Israeli military leading up to the raid, and then if they were able to selectively edit and distribute it...
you tube is blocking (disabling) all comments made in videos that show the Israeli side of the ship marmara flotilla story All videos of the arabs and turkey side all have comments Most are propaganda against israel pass the word to your freinds
Not true. Videos are blocked from both sides.
So the activists had the right to do whatever they want. or only IDF is allowed to attack who ever IDF wants and it is ok with that? If the attack was in ISrael water, so IDF can call it self defense.
The time for holding back is over. Send this video to ALL the WORLD PRESS!!! Call back diplomats and break off ties. Demand an apology from Turkey for allowing terrorists on board a ship launched from Turkey. TIt
I thought this was going to show a detailed plan for defending there ship, but alas this is nothing more than a rallying cry.
As someone who lived in Turkey from 1950 to 1980 I knew it but ow the whole world sees it. It is also interesting that the peace activists of other nationalities from other ships did not come to the defense of the IHH. It seems to me they are distancing themselves from IHH.
You obviously don't read the international papers. They have nothing but praise for them. IHH would not leave Israel until all the activists were allowed to leave with them.
This calls are for self defence. They are not carrying any weapons and are free to chant what they want. Many Americans call for the marches to lift the blockade of Gaza. Many Europeans are ready to die for that cause. You have cheaply put this video out of context. It is your pirates who attacked the ship in international waters. You are the pirates and rogues of the ME.
Because all I saw were people saying they will resist any attempt at piracy. Is this the best they can do from the thousands of hours of footage that was seized?? Israel is really scraping the barrel!
Even if the video is not fake, people on the ship automatically lose their right to self-defense just because soldiers who board the ship are Israelis? I kindly remind you that the raid happened in high waters, not in Israeli territory.
High waters on a ship about to run the blockade. That's how wars start. Israel has the right to protect it's waters, especially with 4 stolen nukes on the loose that could be in any of the boats.
Is that it? They've had all the available videos for weeks and that's the most incriminating thing they can come up with? The guy knows he's about to get attacked by heavily armed IDF attackers and he's rallying his crowd. You could probably hear worse threats from a crowd of football fans before a key match.
Thanks for posting this important video of the pre-engagement and planned violations by the Islamic leaders on the ship.
We know now that these " humanitarians" were up to no good. They were looking for a confrontation to humiliate the Israeli forces and save their faces.
a bunch of people praising god and saying they would not admit commandos on their boat. yep, sound like terrorists to me (anyone who openly praises allah must be a terrorist, right?)
hypothetical question. lets say for arguments sake that there were people on the boat who, as Israel claims, had a specific intention to attack soldiers no matter what (not self defense) who used Hamas-esque approach (cynically have combatants embedded with civilians, use low key weapons to avoid suspicion and appear innocent etc). What would it take to demonstrate that? What should be considered convincing proof? This must be pre-determined, as its too easy to brush off each piece of evidence on a case by case basis.
"If you send the commandos, we will throw you down from here [...]." Yes, to Israels ministry of truth that sounds like an explicit instruction to "throw IDF soldiers into the sea". By the way, who again sent armed commandos in the middle of the night to raid a passenger ship in international waters and confiscated all the evidence? Please, could someone stop Israel making it more worse every time, it's trying do defend it's raid?
the International Red Cross has come out that the siege of Gaza is illegal, so Israel was attacking to defend an illegal siege, those flotilla passengers acted according to international and moral law, Israel try debate that and you will loose
This prove nothing, they just saying if they board our ship we shall threw them overboard and not kill them, this will not work. And as for “marching, marching by the millions” , its a meaningless ad-lip slogan.
since when are jews not allowed to defend themselves when being beaten wth metal poles? the machine guns being carried by the israelis and were referred to by another poster were paintball guns--so you see ---you get nowhere by lying--when you lie to make your point you have lost----and there are plenty of us out here who will stand up to you israel hating terrorist supporting liars---
to repel Israeli forces from Turkish territory, with arms. //The inhabitants of a territory which has not been occupied, who, on the approach of the enemy, spontaneously take up arms to resist the invading troops without having had time to organize themselves in accordance with Article 1, shall be regarded as belligerents if they carry arms openly and if they respect the laws and customs of war// A ship under flag is the sovereign territory of the sovereign flag.
The activists have been declaring that they had people from 32 countries on that flotilla. It seems to me that there was just people who were trying to make Jihad. As the new videos come up it shows that Israel did the right thing. But I beleieve after Israel finishes its own probe they have to do an international one jsut to become more credible infront of the world.
Since when does anyone lose the right of self-defense merely because the aggressor is Israel?
Yildrim did not specify whether his jihadist comrades would "throw the commandos to the see" on international or territorial waters. He said that they would just do it. In connection with the fact that they could have passed the aid via Ashdod, the last thing to describe this "flotilla" is humanitarian activists. As the turkish chief officer from Mavi Marmara stated already, IHH took over control of this ship from the very start, and prepared for battle many hours before the commando's raid - a good reason to think about their intentions. Btw. also the Palestinian witness interviewed by Spiegel confirms that soldiers were lynched and one Arab woman even tried to prevent from lynching.
Since they illegally tried to break a blockade in order to cause a provocation and smuggle illegal items and personal, they're the aggressors :-)
who wants to be a martyr , like it was on this ship .
How is it self-defense if the plan to do it happens before any kind of attack? As the man said, Israel had warned the boats would be boarded if they didn't comply with inspection; but these 'activists' didn't say they'd fight it, no, they kept telling the world they were 'peace activists'! You can't start a ruse and claim self-defense.
Since when does a nation lose the right of self-defense merely because it is Israel? Oops, I forgot. For people like you Israel has no legitimate right or means do defend itself from people who openly threaten to murder civilians and commit genocide.
Then why on the other ships nothing happened?
That was no more "self defense" than using violence to resist arrest by police.
You get pulled over by a cop, he asks for license and registration. You have no right to self defence, doing so will get you arrested. You go to a bar and the bouncer asks you to leave. You have no right to self defence, fighting a bouncer will get you arrested and/injured.
What self defense? This Flotila was on a self admitted offensive trying to break a legal blockade in a war zone. These were terrorist and not Humanitarians. Stop with the sympathy for a group of terrorists. Try forcifully running a flotila into Russia,China or the USA without the permission of those governments and see what will happen to you. If anybody was acting in self defence it was Israel. Please grow up.
then you don't beat people up with iron bars. You can't be both. Get a life.
The IDF confiscated all the pictures and video footage taken by the passengers. (One 1 hour long video was hidden by a journalist and is now on the web.) What is shown is likely one confiscated, and truncated, video because Israel was not in a position to take its own (talking) video before the attack. There is nothing unusual about the suggestion to throw the invading soldiers into the sea, I thought this possibility would have caused the IDF to plan a different mode of attack. But Yildirim's words could not have been the only ones spoken because the fact is that they were NOT FOLLOWED. Only one soldier was thrown (to a lower deck), others were treated below. instead of being thrown overboard. "The truth is the first casualty of war".
Can we please see footage of the Israeli navy soldiers before boarding the ship? I imagine that some inflammatory language might be used among them as well. I do not condemn that, since excitement makes sense before boarding a possibly hostile ship, but the same counts for the members of the Gaza flotilla.
JAIL FOR CHAREDI PARENTS AND FREEDOM FOR THE FLOTILLA TERRORISTS ? By now we are facing major threat that endanger Israel our country, Charedis should not be sentenced to jail for such case. It's such a non-sens, especially when the terrorists from the Marma flotillas have been freed despite the fact they have blood on their hand, and Charedim have done so much good for Israel. It's a real shame, that the State of Israel has reached this low level.
These people are like animals. They talk about peace but preech the hatered of anothe people. They lie to the crowds on the boat about what Israel has said and has been working towards when the ship was to set sail. Israel begged for the Flotila to sail to ashdod peaefully so that the cargo could be delivered on land, they did not mention this, they fill people with hatred in the name of allah.. ANIMALS. Turkey should be saying sorry to Israel for allowing people like this to set sail to us knowing what their intentions are. A true friend would have stopped this from happening not sponser it.
5. Our attack party was vastly outnumbered, and was attacked by the passengers. We had to shoot in self-defense. 4. We had intelligence of a big fat terrorist on the ship who wouldn't fit into one of the Gaza tunnels from Egypt. He had to be stopped. 3. Turkey didn't learn to behave after the "low chair" incident. We had to teach them a stronger lesson. 2. Now Iran will get scared of us and will stop their nuke program. Sorry it didn't work. 1. We wanted Egypt to open the Rafah crossing and take over responsibility for Gaza from us. It worked!
I would say that is fair enough. Would throw pirates also into the water.
The world already knows it was not a flotilla of humanitarians, their intentions are known.
put out by the flotilla. Here and there, people are actually paying attention to the facts, but for most, this is just another opportunity to attack Israel, and they take it. They don't care about facts.
They did try and throw one heavily armed trooper overboard. That's more peaceful than shooting at civilians with machines guns in international waters, by any standard. Was that trooper one of those who opened fire?
Soldiers were NOT heavily armed unless you consider paintball guns heavily armed. Also, your comment about machine gunning civilians is a lie and makes your bias obvious. Stick to the facts. The initial soldiers had paint ball guns and a pistol for just in case.
The first ones that boarded the ship were not heavily armored troopers..They had paintball rifles and a pistol in case there was a life threatening situation
Considering they beat the crap out of them with metal bars, and tried to sentence the soldier to death by throwing him dozens of meters from the boat (luckily he was only severely wounded by landing on the lower deck), this only proves even more the soldiers were right in defending themselves.
"They did try and throw one heavily armed trooper overboard. That's more peaceful than shooting........". A typical statement from an "European"!
Get off your self-rightous horse and stop pretending you know anything about Israel's position.
but was probably encumbered by his paint gun. it is obvious the IHH terrorists did not want a peaceful solution.
The videos clearly show your "peace activists" attacking the soldiers before a single shot was fired. Had there been "machine gun" fire, a lot more would have died. Lying comes so naturally for you.
As a neutral country in Canada I have watched all sides of this from different perspectives. You need to get your facts straight. No machine guns were fired, I have seen several different tapes of the Israeli soldiers boarding the ships, the only difference is how the media explains what is happening. These ships were warned not to enter this area, alternate solutions were provided, the IHH refused. You can see first hand soldiers being beating with pipes as they repel onto the ship, you can see tracer fire being fired from the ship at the soldiers, you can see the soldiers not using any extreme method of force until their lives were in danger. It is very interesting to see the Biased European explanations on BBC seeing the same events. Actually maybe it is not that interesting considering that almost half of europe is now muslim. I wonder how long it will be until europe will be called the Islamic Republic of Europe?
Since when a paint gun is heavily armed. All it can do is stain your shirt. But why don't you smear a little more propaganda dirt on Israel. Oh, I know, because they are Jews.
I think you need to look around more.
When you crack a soldier's head open and cut off his ear, you are no longer a civilian.
Heavily armed with what? A paint ball rifle and a side arm? These guys did more than just try to throw a soldier overboard. They beat the soldiers with metal bars and stabbed them as well. These guys went sailing into a war zone (in case you were not aware Hamas is at war with Israel) . Any other country would have blown them out of the water.
The commandos did not have their assault rifles, they had paintball rifles. In some of the videos, you can see the paintballs splatter. If the commando had rappelled down with assault rifles, the thugs could not have gotten within 100 ft of them. When they finally used deadly force to defend their comrades and themselves, they used sidearms.
I am sorry but as an activist you should not have try to resist to an army. Someone should have warned them about how to behave when they had been stopped by an army. When they tried to kill a soldier they gave all the right to that soldiers even killing.
Yosi - how do you know this??
Another fake video by isreal.. and even if it was authentic..Throwing into sea was defended with killing..hmmm
So when they grabbed the initial Israeli Commandos, did they disarm them, take their side weapons? Did these "Peaceful Activists" fire the first shots from weapons taken from ill prepared Israeli Commandos who did not know about Jihad based IHH. Israel's Intelligence failed in this instance to see how Turkey's government appartus let these terrorists mix with genuine peace activists.
You believe these "humanitarians" more than you believe a country like Israel who has a free press and is a democracy? It is obvious that these people were up to nog good. How naive.
So he did not make that speech? He did not say those things? Which part of this video is fake?
When the Pakistani bombers blew up the trains in Bombay, I am sure you'd have shot them first. Israel's soldiers didn't know what to expect, and reacted correctly.
It looks authentic to me and if it was not it would come out with todays technology. I don't know of any government or even police force that would not defend it self against potencially deadly attacks which were throwing into sea and hitting with metal pipes
but i was in a war. if i saw pipes and knives coming at me i would shoot, i am going home to my family alive and not in a body bag. thats war spidey and this is a war. there is an understanding that if Hamas fires rockets again, israel will retaliate again. war!
I wish you were in the shoes of the Israeli comandos, See what would you do. Let them beat you to death? Yea sure.
Let me tell you something my friends - throwing a person overboard into the open sea who is wearing a full combat uniform and equipment is potentially homicidal. (As is throwing one off an upper deck onto the deck below.) I don't know what happened on that ship, but I do know that you don't need a gun to kill someone. You can throw him into the sea, stab him or bash in his skull with a metal pipe or bar. Death or disability are the potential results.
Fake? Prove that first, why is fake? What kind of tests did you ran on the footage to say so? But anyway, if someone comes at me trying to throw me off board, I would certainly try to stop him with whatever I have at hand, and if that is a 9mm pistol, so be it.
When the activists had 3 Israeli commandos under their control, they tended their wounds. If they wanted to kill them, they could have. Problem is that you are believing the PR uncritically. Need to be open to both sides of the argument.
And this government relaxes the flow of goods into Gaza. Looks like to me that the "flotilla of terrosits " paid off for them and Hamas