U.S. sees Washington peace talks as start of year-long process

There is no such a thing as Palestinian; they are simply Arabs. The Philistines (the Sea People) came from the Islands of Aegean Sea in Greece around 4000 years ago (at the time of Moses) and occupied the coast of Israel and other Mediterranean countries; they disappeared from the area around 3000 years ago. Then, after the revolt of Jews against the Roman occupation of Israel 2000 years ago, the Romans changed the name of Israel to “Provinica Palestina”. That name stuck to Israel since then. Now the Arabs claim that they are Palestinian and native of Israel. They are simply Arabs, not Philistine or Palestinian. All former occupiers of Israel, including the Greeks, Romans, English, and Turks left Israel, why not the Arabs? Jews have continuously lived in Israel for thousands of years even after their expulsion by the Romans. Arabs are only recent occupiers of Israel, and one of many. They came from surrounding Arab countries to work for the British between WWI and WWII, as stated by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1939: "Arab immigration into Palestine since 1921 has vastly exceeded the total Jewish immigration during the whole period." When Mark Twain visited Israel in 1867, he described Israel as an empty desolate land that "there is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent" in his book, “The Innocents Abroad.” The British also described Israel as an empty desolate land. Arthur Penrhyn Stanley, the great British cartographer, reached similar conclusions in 1881: "In Judea it is hardly an exaggeration to say that for miles and miles there was no appearance of life or habitation." The British Consul General, James Finn, wrote in 1857: "the country is in a considerable degree empty of inhabitants." Jews have never given permission to Arabs and Muslims to live on their land. This is different from Muslims living in England since England has given them permission to live on their land.

The leftist U.S. administrations pressured Israel to give 2/3rd of its lands to the Arabs, and eventually they will pressure Israel to give the whole country to the Arabs. First they pressured Israel to give Sinai, then they pressured Israel to give a big chunk of the West Bank and the whole of Gaza, now they are pressuring Israel to give part of Jerusalem and the whole of the West Bank, then they will pressure Israel to give the Golan Heights, and next they will pressure Israel to give the whole country to the Arabs. It seems the leftist U.S. administrations are friend of oil, not Israel. Now that there is no peace in Israel, Arabs have stopped the bombings and rocket attacks. Obama administration pressuring Israel to give part of Jerusalem and the whole of the West Bank to the Arabs. Then, Arabs will start bombings and rocket attacks. Then the Obama administration will pressure Israel to give the whole country to the Arabs.

The Toughest part will be how to hook up the West Bank and Gaza to create a single Palestinian state. The settlers should not be too difficult. Adjust the border to something that makes sense. Settlers who find themselves on the Palestinian side of the border can immigrate to Israel or they can remain in Palestine and become Palestinian Jews. Israel has Arabs. Palestine can have Jews. It's the same thing. The tail will not wag the dog.

why not Begin to sadat ?

With abas already saying who is to blame if dialogue fails, it's hard to believe Abas is a serious partner and Clinton is wasting her time. Same way bill Clinton wasted his time with terrorist Arafat.

Let's cut the crap and get to the truth. Abbas wants Jerusalem as a means to make money off of via turism. He knows his people are lazy, they don't like to work, so they want the Egypt model of making money only off turism via a false impression that there is some sort of deep rooted connection to this land for Islam, otherwise the Palestinian economy collapses the day they declare statehood without Jerusalem. EVERY SINGLE JEWISH heritage site throughout the Arab peninsula has either been destroyed or over-run by Arab nations. For all you non-historians, I'll make it simple. Jerusalem will be divided when the land of Khaibar will be restored as a Jewish Town before we all know what Muhammed did to the men, and THEN what he did to the women... Let Israel have Khaibar and then you can have parts of Jerusalem for your THIRD holy site instead of our ONLY Jewish holy site.. DEAL??? Yeah thats's what I thought.

It's going nowhere fast unfortunately. Bring Hamas in from the cold and have everyone get warm and cozy. This peace process is a royal joke and Palestinians are not fooled by any of this.

You want vigorous process..... Prepare the way for the Lord, He is coming back!

When two parties negotiate, neither party will ever get what they want. That is what makes it an agreement, that each party has conceded something and gained something (ie You win some, you lose some) The problem with those in charge of negotiating for the Palestinians, is that everything they have asked for is the BARE MINIMUM to which they are entitled to: 1- the pre-67 borders (aka only the land that is currently occupied which is in violation of international law- this is undisputed fact) To ask for the settlements to be stopped is completely within their rights. If this is to be the land that is to be their future state, why are Israeli only settlements allowed to be continuously built separating and dividing what is to be come their future state? 2-EAST Jerusalem as a capital. Considering under the partition plan when the state of Israel was created, Jerusalem was not given to Israel and instead was later annexed (again a move not recognized by international law)- having that a as a capital is very reasonable, and to sacrifice that is simply unfair. 3- a right to return for its refugees that have been displaced throughout the world after being kicked out of their homeland which many have been living in for generations. Once again, considering all that the Palestinians have already given up and the way they have been living since 1948, they are not asking for much. In these peace processes, the Palestinians have much more to gain than the Israelis because the Israelis are already control the entire country and have at their disposal the money and the military power to maintain their security. Israel really has nothing to gain from a peace process, except security and the friendship and respect of its Arab neighbors. As well as to improve its image in the eyes of the international community, which as of late, has been very critical of Israeli actions. For the Palestinians, rather than asking for the full potential to that which they are entitled to, and looking to get an actual fair deal with their Israeli neighbors where they will all be treated as equals and human beings, they are ONLY asking for the bare minimum to which any self-respecting human being should ask for. The problem is, when they don't concede or give up any of these 3 things they are asking for (nor should they) they will be seen as not being "serious about the peace process" because they are not willing to make sacrifice, when it is in fact they have been sacrificing all these years, with nothing left to sacrifice. Unfortunately, that is why I am not optimistic about these peace talks. Here in the US, all we will hear about is how the talks fell apart because the Palestinians were not an adequate peace partner, while Israel tried its very hardest to create peace.

its just a show...boost obama and natanyahoo and will be blamed on abbas when it fails

Obama is living on Fantasy Island. Without the excuse that an American President forced him to do it, no Israeli Prime Minster could survive making peace.

Netanyahu: "How about this?" Abbas: "Stick it!" Mitchell: "Well there you have folks - join us next time for another episode of..."

the Zimmer Framework on account of the fact that by the time Peace breaks out most babies of today will need some kind of aid to assist walking.

... but it seems like both parties have been dragged kicking and screaming to the negotiating table. I don't believe anybody involved, Israel, West Bank, or Gaza, is truly interested in peace. However, there are an awful lot of people interested in the opposite. I would love to be surprised, but I don't see how these talks can possibly succeed.

Man ! Hillary really looks like a old hag in this picture. It must really be true what is said, that evil ages someone far beyond their years !

What kind of a comprehensive peace we are talking about from the side of Israel as if there were a magic bullet? And if there were a magic bullet, the bullet is Syria. We all know it, but Israel ignores Syria because it has no legs to stand on to face what it has to loose in achieving a comprehensive peace. A comprehensive peace from Syria side would be impossible without recognizing Israel as a Jewish State. There must be a marriage between Israel and Syria for the comprehensive peace to see the light.

Here lies the mistake. Jerulsalem is a stumbling block that they will in way get over. Expel 10,000's of Jews from theWest Bank? = civil war. '67 boarders? literally "not on your life". The only way peace can come after the last 60years of Jewkilling is for the Arabs to completely surrender. Nothing else would work. Period.

Obama he really screwed up in the USA nobody likes him anymore and the popular people vote for him is going down down down - he has to excell in SOMEHTING in order to stay afloat as the dems are losing their seats so the scapegoat the Mid East chatter if I was Netanyahu I would drag my responses and all the meetings till after November let Oybama go kaput

Mahmoud Abbas does not have a mandate from the Palestinians, certainly not anywhere equivalent to the mandate of Sadat. Whatever Abbas does will be dead on arrival. This negotiating process is a complete sham. There are no Patestinian partners that can deliver and none willing to deliver.

To think that Obama can somehow magically wave a magic wand and make all the troubles disappear after thousands of years of conflict. Both he and Ms. Clinton will be remembered for forcing another failure after making such unrealistic 'demands'. Should have secured jobs for Americans so they can pay for the health care plan and the unseemingly higher taxes.

... neither protagonist looks physically fit... paunches, double-chins... mind you, the chief referee looks in great shape, see how he sprints up and down stairs...

trying to bully the weak into giving up their rights, and accepting second class status in perpetuity is what has been vigorously pursued by Israel, with US support, for most of these, perhaps not that inaccurate of a description.

Israeli-Palestinian negotiations are doomed to hit a brick wall because no Palestinian leader will accept anything less than what Yasser Arafat rejected at Camp David 10 years ago, and no Jewish prime minister will offer anything more, “No matter what we do, it seems no Palestinian leader who is willing to accept what Arafat rejected, and there isnt a Jewish prime minister who can give more than what Ehud Barak offered. At the same time, Shalom said he was in favor of the US-backed indirect talks because they may bring about a greater understanding between the sides. But talking is good and it is important to have realistic expectations, but As Much as US tries to be best mediator to everyone involved any attempt to rush and impose a solution, by the US or any other player, won’t work because no one will accept it. Israel will certainly not accept it

I can never understand people who have passed the age of puberty,be so silly & stupid, No peace can be achieved in one year. A closer mark could be 100 years if you are an optimist,or 150 years if you are a pessimist . When people go to bed & if they are with themselves,do they really believe that in ONE YEAR peace can be achieved ?.....We are not talking about that 'Peace Now' movement, an aberration of truth,honesty & personal integrity

as in, you'll get this, this and this, take it or leave it.