Turkey sets up own Gaza flotilla inquiry
Probe will work under the office of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and present findings to UN, AFP news agency reports.
By Haaretz Service Tags: Israel news Gaza flotilla Turkey Recep Tayyip ErdoganTurkey has set up its own inquiry into Israel's raid on a Gaza-bound aid convoy that left none Turkish citizens dead, the AFP news agency reported on Thursday.
The probe will work under the office of Prime Minister's Recep Tayyip Erdogan and will "investigate the attack and the treatment the activists faced" before reporting on its findings, the ministry said in a statement.
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Turkey's Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan chairs the annual meeting of the High Military Council in Ankara August 1, 2010. |
| Photo by: Reuters |
Turkey said it plans to present its findings to another inquiry set up by the United Nations. Early this month, Israel agreed to participate in the UN probe, as well as setting up its own investigation, which this week heard teastimony from the Israeli prime minister, defense minister and army chief of staff.
Turkey's commission will include officials from the foreign, justice, interior and transport ministries as well as from the country's maritime agency.
Israel's May 31 raid on the Mavi Marmara, the Turkish-flagged lead ship in the flotilla, plunged relations between the erstwhile allies into deep crisis.
On Tuesday Turkey's Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said on Tuesday that Israel should admit sole responsibility for the deaths aboard the Mavi Marmara.
"No one else can take the blame for killing civilians in international waters," Davutoglu told journalists. "Israel has killed civilians, and should take the responsibility for having done so."
The Turkish minister appeared to be responding to remarks made by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday when he testified before an Israeli commission of inquiry into the same May 31 incident.
Netanyahu said Turkey had ignored repeated warnings and appeals "at the highest level" to halt the flotilla, which was organized by an Islamic charity based in Turkey.
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That it fell is a coincidence according to you. But accordingto Erdogan NOT.Why? IF you read his Bio ,you will find he canme from a very fundementakl Islamist family.ow the turks picked him for a leader knowingthe majority iof turksare scular I am surprised. Now the MASK HAS IS EXPOSED FOR ALL TO SEE.And reason why the EU has not considered Turkey joining in it is GOOD REASON don't you think?
The day the IDF killed those 9 Turkish violent "peace activists" from the religion of peace, Turkey probably killed 90 Kurds.
8 Turks and 1 American got killed in international waters, with the use of heavy weaponry with precision. Manhandled and bruised, crying commandoes' lives were spared.
.....The finest in the world! Our children are fine children, defending Israel to the best ability of the young, un-spoiled by politics. Here, they were left alone, and what they did is FANTASTIC ! They at first absorbed beating by experienced fanatics meant to kill, ready to die, and only later fought as good as they must! And, this original beating will never be repeated! NEVER AGAIN ! Shame on you Turks !!! I thought, and still think, much better of you, than of those filthy terrorists trying to represent great Turkey ! And another thing Mr. Erdogan - you will never be part of Europe if you continue to be represented by such goons as the "fighters" on the flotilla..... your pride in them is terribly inappropriate.............
If the terrorists only want Turkey to break ties with Israel and the USA, don't give the terrorists what they want. Breaking ties would hurt the economies. IHH is a terrorist islamist group which is anti-western and the islamist extremists have stated they want Turkey to break its ties with Israel and the West. This would only hurt Turkey and so terrorist groups shoot themselves in the foot by hurting their own people.
If the IHH was a terrorist organisation, not only would I agree with you, they wouldn't have been able to operate from Turkey in the first place. The organisation that th
Defending yourself against armed commandos who board your ship with deadly weapons in the middle of the night is far from anything related to terrorism. IHH has sent aid to over 120 countries since it has been founded, and no government on the face of this world except Israel has dared to accuse IHH of being terrorists. A terrorist is someone who attacks innocent civilian people to coerce their demands through fear. Using such sensitive terms so recklessly is an insult to all those who have suffered in terrorist attacks.
and apologize to Israel for the flotilla provocation.
The bodies were washed with alcohol to destroy the evidence, but the Turkish coroners were able to determine that the murdered were shot from above their heads or from close range. They painted and plastered the bullet holes; but the Turkish forensic teams were able to uncover and discover some 250 bullet holes in the ship. They confiscated the video footage from passengers; but some managed to smuggle them in their underwear. Israel made every attempt to conceal the facts, but the evidence is so concrete and so abundant that they cannot hide their blame. When the final reports are released; nobody will any more dare to argue that it was Israel who acted in self-defense.
This evidence that is "so concrete and so abundant" there must be some trace of it somewhere. Could you please give us all just a little hint of where some of it might be? LOL
Only ISrael killed teh 9 turks. Well not exactly. They got killed when they decided to embark on a ship of fools and exstremists and then they made weapons and decided to use them . Thats when tehy got killed, The very moment they decided to use the weapons. Turkey really does not want to hear how it aided and abetted terrorists in this matter. I hope the UN finds the Turks responsible for half this mess
Very interesting. Let's wander what the outcome will be then.
I hope Erodgan does not spend to much on this "investigation". All he needs is a fictional author to make the report. In fact, he could have written the report a day before it happened. What a joke, Erodgan and the arab controlled UN making a report. Anybody know how that investigation is going on Darfur? Ohhh yeahh, the arabs were involved with that as koffi did nothing, therefore no investigation. The UN could not careless about the lives of thousands of africans, but the UN is the first to do kangaroo investigations on lies.
That will show these clowns who they're messing with!
Maybe Nasrallah can testify....
As a whole Bibi and Lieberman are guilty.... Those ships CAN NOT STOPPED by govnmt. (By diplomatic way or by mossad) After they sent those ship WE HIT THE SHIPS Our BIBI OUR LIEBERMAN DO WRONG Can not be hawk What a pitty now we are waiting for Erdogans inquiry...i What a pitty.. Shame on you
they are close to being like afghanistan!
you must be simply an ignorant and in lack of education. Stop your stupid fake comments if you have dignity.
they are close to being like afghanistan!? and that is what your zionist entity want. shame on you!!!
Just because they did not stop an international NGO activity to break a blockade which has repeatedly been declared as illegal and inhumane by numerous international organisations including the UN, EU, Amnesty, Red Cross, etc.? Turkey is far more closer to western values and ideals than Israel. And what about Sweden, Ireland, and Greece; whose ships were also in the flotilla and who were also violently stopped? Would you dare say they are close to being like Afghanistan as well?
Erdogan sends oil to Iran and weapons to Hezbollah while invading Iraq to murder Kurds while denying genocide on the Armenians!! Does this guy deserves to be allowed to have Turkey enter the EU? No way!! Keep this bigot and his country out!!
First of all you are wrong with calling ant-semitic, he is only againts Israel's policy,not Jews. Turks never been ant-semitic during history.If you are so ignorant to suggest that;learn abaut what Turks did for Jews in WW2.And seems like you know a lot abt this falsified genocide..awesome! I work in Erzurum where Armenian Tashnaks (extremists) killed 1000s of Turks..Believe me history cant be learned from system of a down songs...And Hezbollah issue..I dont believe Turkeywud pass guns to them.If Turkey had choosen that way,we would feed terrorists against Syria while Hafez Esad kept pkk leader Abdullah Ocalan in Damascus for years.
Still good for you Tasyyip.You have made your bed, now you can lay in it.Good luck te ya Erdogan. Your loss,USA's Gain. But don't come back whining when things go wrong now will ya..
Yes Turkey did allow a selected number of Geraman Jews with high education to come to Turkey. They established many of the science faculties at the universities. Among them doctor Nielsen was one that I came to know. Diplonats like Selahattin Ulkumen saved a few dozens Jews from Rhodes to flee. But on the other hand Turkey did not give refuge to the common Jews. The fate of the ship Struma tells it all. Additionally in 1941 Varlik Vergisi law was passed which gave the government the right to confiscate all the wealth from theJews (including a big building in Istaenbul Bankalar caddesi from my family) and sending Jews to labor camps at Askale. Younger Jews also were sent to a labor camp at Afyon under the guise of 20th draft military service. So if you are really honest you have to look at the two sides of the events.
HE IS A GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT
In case you missed the caption; that is the routine annual meeting of the high military council and has nothing to do with the flotilla incident. It is customary for 16 flags to be displayed as a reference to the 16 Turkish states in history. Typical American attitude to arrogantly assume everything as they wish without bothering to look into the facts.
At last, an impartial, honest, unbiased, investigation by a party known for its willingness to openly explore all data, supporting and contrary, and come to a fair and just preconceived and predetermined conclusion.....
i think that our israeli govt. should accept the blame for the betterment of relations as Turkey is an irreplacable ally for israel. otherwise, the bill to be paid by ourside shall grow larger and larger. pay the compensation when we can easily do away with simple apology, and reasonable compensation to the families of the victims. and in return regain the greatest ally in the ME. Foreign policy should be guided by interested not by emotions.
Truekey has yet to answer the tough questions. She allowed this ship of extremists and did not verify there were weapons on board. The captain of teh ship when he saw chop saws being used to cut weapons from steel plate did nothing to stop it. Turkey is gonna get stuffed but good.
This will be another partial inquiry like Israeli Govt has conducted. These inquiries are not going to change ground realities or bring changes in the lives of Palestinians.
feels so inwardly sick over the holocaust that the only thing they can do to cover up is to bash Israel, the latest anti-Jew fashion statement. It is called holocaust guilt backlash and they will desperately side with Turkey and all the Muslim world against Israel to try to absolve their sick Jew-hating guilt. Disgusting, blind Euros, who colonized more of earth and spread more death and disease in it than any other people, still can't rise above their own sh*t to see that Jews, continually in Israel for millennia, are indigenous to Israel, unlike greedy arrogant Euros in America, South Africa, and more of their huge colonies and ex-colonies worldwide. Billions have to say that the tiny # of Jews are wrong in order to say their faiths are right, so the blind, ultra-massive Jew-hate is no surprise at all.
Those very "Jew-hating" Europeans "gifted" you with the land you live in today! The reason for the backlash is the Israeli arrogance it has since adopted (in alliance with those "Jew-hating" Europeans), then the Americans, to steal yet MORE land! But, the world now says, enough is enough!!
Part of Turkey is in Europe unlike Israel although Europe is kissing Israel's ass with favorable trade agreements and let them participate in Eurovision song festivals European Championships etc... If Europe is anti-semite and jew hater why don't Israel just cancel all the trade agreements and all other connections with Europe? You guys are so funny, pretending like the world would stop spinning without you...
thanks to israeli wrong policy and the occupation of the Palestinians lands! Enough is enough!
agree Enough is enough.!!!!!!!!!!!
Please look at the cross in your room. There you will see a Jew called Jesus, who was crucified by Romans soldiers and European mercenaries, along with may other Jews. So you are right: Enough is enough! we are tired of Europe's Christianity false morals, hiding behind hideous crimes.
it's an attempt to search for or fabricate more what they'd call "real facts" to blame Israel. Do not think anyone on Israel side will participate in their "investigation". OK, may be Zuabe and Livni would.
Turkey wanted an international investigation. Soon after the "flotilla" event the UN HRC appointed such a commission. But in the last week the UN Secretary General appointed another commission whose job is to review the Turkish and Israeli investigations and to ascertain the facts. In view of this, Turkey had to investigate too.
Flotilla! Flotilla! Flotilla!! Move on for goodness sake!!!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!
What do you mean "enough already?". What if it was your brother that was killed in international waters? Can you not see how serious taking life is?
Your gonif government and IDF murdered 9 of our citizens! Just as Israeli's are sensitive and protective on the lives of their citizens, so are we!! So, it aint over until we say it's over!
At last an Enquiry that we can all trust. With this enquiry by Turkey and with Erdogan in charge we will finally be able to appreciate Turkey's fair & unbiased policy. I wonder how critical it will be of Turkey's role?
They should have a North Korean chair this committe so to make sure its fair and unbiased
UN, Isael, Turkey... the question is, who will be the referee?!
Failing that, how about Pastor John Hagee??
Responsibility dodging? Each claimed they were responsible!
Turkey knows that the boat was armed and ready. They need a report that doesn't say so-so they'll write one themselves.
Turkey only set up its own commission because israel refused an independent inquiry. Israel never wanted to cooperate and could "investigate itself" I know someone else who needs its own jury...
In effect it is like starting a TRIAL WITHOUT A JUDGE A ND A JURY. All a sham and rhetorical blunder of A COVER UP by Erdogan.
Peter, perhaps they should take evidence from the 9 MURDERED PEOPLE!!!
Why were Israeli commandos boarding this ship in international waters. No justifiable excuse exists.
We want truth, not a justification for piracy.
Capiche?
I call that A GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT. The IHH is now registered as a TERRORIST ORG. That is for so-called haifa Moshe who is NOT a real Mosh'
Mavi Marmara is registered on Comoros Island and it is Comoros who has to set up inquiries.
...a territory that is in armed conflict with its neighboring state of Israel. Second, they send their highly paid thugs to inflict injuries and death upon the policing force of Israel in their legal act of enforcing the blockade. Third, they plan to "investigate" how they planned and executed their illegal activities. And for all of these years they have not yet investigated how they committed a genocide of 1.5 million Armenians, how they slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Kurds, withing and without of Turkey, how they invaded a UN member state, Cyprus, and expelled its ethnic Greek residents from a third of the country, and how they caused the sinking the Struma and with it hundreds of Jewish refugees. These latest examples of illegal behavior are not worth investigating, according to the Turkish authorities. Shame on you!!!
it will be true.... the ships weren not in israeli or gaza terroritial waters but in international waters... also the only organization that declare a naval blockade legal is UN and all the UN reporesentatives, Russia, EU diplomats have said that the blockade is illegal due to collective punishment of people of gaza..
The Muzzie-run UN and bleeding heart EU forget that a blockade is legitimate during war, and that it is legal to intercept a blockade runner in int. waters.
"The probe will work under the office of Prime Minister's Recep Tayyip Erdogan" - clearly not a serious, independent investigation.
But of course they won't conduct an inquiry into why a government backed charity's ship allowed armed terrorists to board.
Please provide any think that IHH is terrorist organization and its members involve terrorism. To israelis anything muslim is terrorist. Bigotry.
The IHH is now on a list of a terror organization who are you to dispute it?
if the turkish ever probed their armies conduct concerning "civilians" killed during operations against the kurds.
And just as fake as Erdogan
The TV series you refer to is and has always been "fictional drama". The fact that it had references to Israel, had the Israelis go wild, including those that should know better, i.e. your own government!! What a childish nation Israel has shown itself to be!!
Israel is by far more honest than either Ireland or the USA....Two in the meantime. Easy to digest !
... until it looks like the Turkel Committee might be interested in the truth.
The level of education in rural Turkey ( and even in the poorer neighborhoods of big cities) is very bad and most people do not know how to make a distinction between fiction and reality. People believe in everything they see on the screen.
Perhaps Hollywood should release more movies on arabs being terrorists. Hakan, I doubt they will complain with terrorists killers like Nasralah, Meshal, Bin Laden... They can also include a charachter code name the persian shoe Achma7ara (a terrorists who sometimes secretly dables in homosexuality.
Enough with this stupid flotilla that tayyip innitiated.nmot israel.You sleep with dogs WAKE UP WITH FLEAS.That is what Erdogan has DONE.Let him live witht it.
Why don't you take that piece of snot from under your superior nose!! Judging by some of the posts here, most Israelis also believe what they see on the screen...