The Iron Dome anti-missile defense system has been making an impressive appearance since Operation Pillar of Defense began on Wednesday, intercepting more than 300 rockets so far, but it has also been raising concerns over the damage caused by shrapnel of interceptor missiles.
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The porous shield of Israel's Iron Dome
Some Israelis believe the anti-missile defense system is a flawless technology, forgetting that shrapnel from interceptor missiles can cause serious damage.
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11 0 0In the known tradition of Haaretz, nothing the righty government does is good ofr the lefties at Haaretz.
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- 19 Nov 2012
- 09:16PM
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10 0 0My late Grandfather gave me the following advise
- By S Judah
- 19 Nov 2012
- 09:09PM
"If you have nothing nice to say keep quiet." A totally absurd article when you consider all the positives.And I'll add this. If you walk around naked the stiching in your clothes may not wear but you are likely to be bitten by scorpians.
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09 0 0Jewish Genius on high moral standards
- By Avram Goldsmith
- 19 Nov 2012
- 09:03PM
To design and accomplish in such a short period a system that anhilate the rocket launched put Hamas is sensational and as in past Arabs have been catched with pants down, promiss Hell they get Hell. Secondary is not in history fighting terorism which demand land invasion with total distruction see Russian in Chechnia and Aganistan, Israel spare the lifes of REALLY INNOCENT PEOPLE by concept and puting effort in developing such a system which proove itself that even Americans are memorized by it's effectivity.
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08 0 0Striking Down An Offensive Missile In Flight With A Defensive One, Now That's Rocket Science!
- By Lavi - Seattle
- 19 Nov 2012
- 08:29PM
Firing off an offensive missile towards Israel shipped to you by the Terror Puppeteer hiding back in Tehran who is too scared to face the IDF himself and have his land suffer the Israeli retaliatory wrath, now that's shooting a rocket through your own feet.
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07 0 0Only Haaretz would describw Iron Dome as "porous."
- By Stephen in New York
- 19 Nov 2012
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Remember the axe Haaretz have to grind, they have to be true to their tradition or no job
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- 19 Nov 2012
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06 0 0Ridiculous....
- By Dan
- 19 Nov 2012
- 08:08PM
It's a missile exploding a rocket in mid air.....a bullet hitting a bullet....shrapnel will come down! Give me a break! Leftist whining..............reminds me of Louis C.K.'s skit on "modern technology."
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05 0 0Shooting IDF in the back as those prepare to take on Hamas. The depth of moral failure at Haaretz.
- By Miron
- 19 Nov 2012
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04 0 0Iron Dome
- By inbound39
- 19 Nov 2012
- 07:36PM
Up until now up to a thousand missiles have been fired and a little over three hundred have been intercepted. A success rate of approximately a third of incoming missiles downed. Not the eighty percent rate the military claims. Given this is a mild unsophisticated attack I would suggest Israel makes peace and gives up the Occupation and settlements. It will never contend with a sophisticated saturation attack coming from somewhere like Iran currently. And you can bet they have been watching.
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mistaken
- By al-kafir al-yahudi
- 19 Nov 2012
- 07:51PM
the iron dome does not fire an interceptor if the trajectory of the incoming missile is calculated to land in an unpopulated. 12% of the missiles fired from gaza should have been shot down but weren't, whereas 88% were. the other hundreds of missiles landed in open fields or places where people don't congregate.
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Your argument is baseless
- By Felipe
- 19 Nov 2012
- 08:20PM
Now, Iron Dome only intercepts the missiles which are aimed at populated areas. Therefore, of all the missles launched for Gaza which were bound to populated areas, 80-90% have been shot down. That means, 80-90% of success. Missiles which do not head for populated areas are left to fall down on the opne space. It's quite advanced tecnology. Get your facts straight.
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Genius 69, the system "ignores" missiles it calculates are headed to open areas, and on those it hits in the 90s
- By Man deVoshkes
- 19 Nov 2012
- 08:24PM
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Since you don't know what you're talkiing about
- By Stephen in New York
- 19 Nov 2012
- 08:28PM
nothing you say is of interest. Iron Dome only intercepts those rockets deemed to be heading for a protected area and ignores rockets that will impact in open areas. So far the successful interception rate is 88%.
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Iran?
- By S Judah
- 19 Nov 2012
- 09:09PM
The suggestion that Israel would be passive during an Iranian attack is an absurdity. Teharan would be leveled within 24 hours. And Iron Dome is only one level of Israel's missile defence shield. And what evidence do you have that Iran's missles are accurate over a long range? I'd be quite worried in Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia of them landing there instead.
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Re the ones Gaza fired into Gaza
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- 19 Nov 2012
- 09:50PM
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Accuracy of Iranian missiles
- By bob from Philadelphia
- 19 Nov 2012
- 11:51PM
"S Judah" asked about the accuracy of Iran's missiles. Their workhorse missile with the range to reach Israel is the Shahab-3. (They have made small numbers of about four other missiles that can reach Israel, including one with both stages solid fuel.) When first produced in 2003 it is estimated that it would be likely to hit perhaps a km from where it was aimed. In 2006 they switched to a solid-fuel second stage, adding accuracy. These missiles are relatively fast, adding accuracy. There have been many improvements, and it is now believed that they have a CEP (Circle of Estimated Precision) of 30-50 meters; as many land within that circle as land outside of it. They are either tipped with one of two models of single warheads of either about 1000 kg or a tri-conic warhead of about 750 kg. They also have cluster payloads that deliver five cluster bomb warheads, each with 280 bomblets. All of these warheads are believed to be independently manuverable and targetable.They probably have decoy technology. One other model of missile carries three independently targetable high explosive warheads. Today Iran has about 500 of these missiles, over 400 should be Shahab-3s. (The number is mostly based on recent testimony in the Knesset from IDF Military Intelligence.) Iran has also developed a cruise missile and a drone bomber that can both reach Israel, largely based on Russian Kh-55 cruise missiles that crooked Ukranian officials illegally sold to Iran (12) and China (6) in 2001, I think. Probably only have a few at this time, but it is a new mode of attack that will have to be addressed. Netanyahu and some of his allies have been spreading the idea that Iran has 35 missiles that can reach Israel. Israel's Arrows can stop 35 missiles, but only a small fraction of 500. And the Iranian missiles are not loaded with fertilizer warheads. You almost have to be hit in the forehead with a Quassam to be killed by it.
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- By Gene
- 19 Nov 2012
- 06:14PM
Socialist-progressives can only whine about reality. Their mind is always about a perfect condition, Utopia.
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02 0 0better shrapnel than the missile going off no?
- By he1ler
- 19 Nov 2012
- 05:58PM
Ronseal
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01 0 0"A porous shield " ?? Really ??
- By Marek, Sweden.
- 19 Nov 2012
- 05:53PM
The Rafael's Iron Dome present technology is certainly not "a flawless", BUT the ONLY ONE possible, of those technologies which are realistic and workable TODAY - and in this respect it is absolutely top-of-the-line. The burning hot metal debris falling from time to time from heaven are not so much rests of Rafael's Tamir intercepting missiles (it happens too, sometimes), but much more often the debris and rests after destroyed 122 mm Iranian, Syrian, Russian or Chinese artillery-rockets, or after gigantic Iranian Fajr-5 long-range heavy artillery rockets. Some 35 terror-rockets had, until now, hit densely populated areas of Israel, which they shouldn't. During the very same time more than 320 rockets had been intercepted and destroyed by Iron Dom systems. It gives you more or less 90% success rate, or in another words some 10% real "porousness". These results are so extraordinary good, that they are simply astounding. What do you propose in stead, Gili?? That IDF/IAF stops firing Iron Dome missiles, and stop defending the Israeli civilians altogether??
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How will Iron dome intercept hunderds of rockets if fired at once?
- By john
- 19 Nov 2012
- 07:01PM
How will Iron dome intercept hunderds of rockets if fired at once? The Iron dome is only succesfull, because the number of rockets fired at once arent high. Furthermore it costs almost 50.000 dollars to intercept a projectile of 200-300 dollars. An does Israel have enough iron dome rockets to stop rockets in a eventual long term war. Lets say if a war breaks out and weeks after week hunderds of rockets are fired a day. Than Israeli stockpile of iron dome rockets will used up within a few weeks. This iron dome system is only a solution for short term conflicts.
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Sorry, the rockets they shoot at Tel Aviv can fly to Haifa, too. Each carries Ukrainian engine costs 100,000 USD. Experts...
- By Miron
- 19 Nov 2012
- 07:49PM
You are asking wrong questions. The right question is who funds Hamas for those 7 meter long, 100kg / warhead tactical cruise missiles.
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Not all the rockets are of the $200-300 variety
- By Raymond in DC
- 19 Nov 2012
- 07:56PM
That figure only applies to the home-made, short-range Qassams. The larger and longer range Katyusha and Grad rockets cost thousands of dollars, and the Iranian-made Fajr-5 are more costly yet. Even the small rockets can result in property damage, injury and death. Let's consider an alternative "passive" defense - reinforcing buildings and constructing secure rooms. The cost for such work runs into the hundreds of millions of dollars. Would you say such is uncalled for because some projectiles only cost a few hundred dollars?
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Not all the rockets are of the $200-300 variety
- By Raymond in DC
- 19 Nov 2012
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That figure only applies to the home-made, short-range Qassams. The larger and longer range Katyusha and Grad rockets cost thousands of dollars, and the Iranian-made Fajr-5 are more costly yet. Even the small rockets can result in property damage, injury and death. Let's consider an alternative "passive" defense - reinforcing buildings and constructing secure rooms. The cost for such work runs into the hundreds of millions of dollars. Would you say such is uncalled for because some projectiles only cost a few hundred dollars?
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Iron Dome defeats salvos of rockets.
- By Stephen in New York
- 19 Nov 2012
- 08:35PM
Iron Dome has already shown that it can defeat multiple salvos of rockets. There are many videos posted showing up to 7 rockets in a salvo destroyed in under 4 seconds. Not possible for the Palestinians to fire hundreds of rockets simultaneously- beyond their capability. As for Israel running out of interceptors- not going to happen- current inventory is several thousand (I made that figure up, but it's a good guess)
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YES, if need be, it will !!
- By Marek, Sweden.
- 19 Nov 2012
- 09:05PM
In mass producion the Rafael's Tamir missiles will NOT cost 50 K$, but some 20 K$ - 25 K-US$ per unit. The more advanced models of 122 mm (with longer, 40 km max-range) GRAD artillery-rockets cost some 3.000 USD per unit, and NOT 200-300 dollars, as you write here. Super heavy, large, long-range Iranian Fajr-5 artillery-rockets cost almost as much, as Rafael's Tamir missiles. And yes, the Iron Dome systems are designed to succesfully handle barrages of hundreds aof artillery rockets at the same time - so the Hizbullah's thugs should NOT hope for any better success, than their Hamas & Islami Jihad "brothers", "John"......
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Cheaper Alternative.
- By inbound39
- 19 Nov 2012
- 10:39PM
End the Occupation and Illegal Settlements...think of the savings....plenty of room to build in Sovereign Israel. No need to build on someone elses land and get missiles for your troubles.
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