Syrian newspaper: Arab League may reject U.S. proposal for peace talks

I am not "being in Vilnius" nor I can see how such being would somehow reflect on my reasoning to Cipora, passing by "antisemitic fathers". And, unless the Yad-Vashem Holocaust statistics on the exterminations camps have changed overnight, and if you are not a diehard Holocaust denier, your "Most of the extermination were in your country" is totally absurd. I suggest that if you can't make logical connection between my post to Cipora and your response, put in your head in order at least the points you choose to bring up. And good luck.

Bibi has no interest in real peace. The only way there will be peace is for there to be 2 states and the illegal/immoral ettlement enterprise, which Bibi wholeheartedly supports, has at it's core the destruction of the possibility of a viable Palestinian state. One cannot work for peace and destroy its possibility at the same time. Think about that before you rant and rave about how Obama is rebuked by the Arabs.

When hate is in the centre of peace ! That is what is left of this lifeless conflict ! Obama imposing power to achieve peace is the last that this no love lost conflict needs ! I know it is not right for me to say it; but Obama is behaving just like any Arab ! Using power to distribute justice ! War to bring peace ! Double talk to make truth in his words ! It wouldn't work ! All unlike the wisdom of Solomon !

You being in Vilnius signifies where your comments are comming from. Most of the extermination were in your country because of the support the germans got from your anti semitic fathers.

"No US president has ever shown so much reverence to a foreign people as Obama has shown to the Muslims" CJK Take a sheet of paper and draw a table with two columns. In the left column write all instances where Obama voiced publicly the "special", "undying" relationship", "unwavering support" etc to Israel. Add US's favorable veto votes in Security Council and other material and legal bonuses. In the right column write the same instances in relation to the Palestinians. Make addition. Draw conclusion. Try to imagine an arbiter in a legal dispute who ceaselessly and publicly declares all his positive prejudice towards your adversary. For putting all in perspective, try to find one more country in the world having all the items listed in the left column in its pocket. End of discussion about this lonely, defenseless godforsaken and despised by all piece of land smaller than New Jersey.

Well worded and to the point.

"..your combination of the three no`s of khartoum and "israel insists on breaking the law" is strange" Only to someone trying to justify Israel's illegal acquisition of other folk's territories. "may i remind you that the three no`s of khartoum were the response to israel`s offer to give back the land conquered during the six-day-war...." ..some of the land..in order to keep the rest. " in return for peace with the arabs. what does this have to do with "israel insists on breaking the law"? please clarify." Illegally claiming and settling some of the territories captured by war. "i cannot follow your thought" You can't afford to, it pokes the holes in the Hasbara.

Israel unsolved to distract their people and justify lack of democracy and choice

Maybe Syria is not so popular any more with Arab countries after dealing Scuds to Hezbullah?

Unfortunately, the Arab League has a history of rejecting peace deals. Israel, including with Netanyahu, has always agreed to peace talks, a primary step towards a solution. Arab League and Palestinian extremists always rejected peace plans, including the first of them and then Oslo accords. Instead of trying to pressure Israel to reach a deal, Obama should pressure Palestinians. How long before they go to the negociation table, if Obama does it? So why waste his time with Arab League?

The Palestinian-Israeli conflict is the core issue that unites Arab countries that in other respects differ on almost everything. But of course if procrastination is the object, you've got an excuse there to futz around until the end of time - which, in consequence, might well come sooner than you think.

"The deeper the connection among Hezbollah, Syria, Iran and Hamas, the more we need to worry," - IDF One would think such an observation, and others over the years, would lead to one simple conclusion: Get Syria out of Iran`s orbit and make peace with it. This will bring an end to military Hizballah and also bring peace with Lebanon. Problem: There is a price to be paid. Syria`s close alliance with Iran is not natural. Syria is secular, Iran fundamentalist. Syria is an Arab state, Iran Persian (long time no friends). Syria is mostly Sunni, Iran Shiite. Syria used to be friendly to the US, since they joined the coalition against Saddam in the 1991 war. Jim Baker visited Syria 15 times. After the 9-11 attacks Syria helped the US in hunting al-Qaida, even to the extent of torturing some on behalf of the CIA. But Syria continued to support Hizballah as pressure against Israel. However, Bush had larger (and confused) ambitions, so he made Hizballah one of his targets. Syria, as their supporter, became "evil", and Israel can now use this excuse to refrain from dealing with Syria and maintain its hold over the Golan. There is a price to the Israeli reluctance to talk peace with Syria. Since 1973, when Egypt got out of the Israeli-Arab conflict, Syria tried to cause trouble only indirectly, so as not to be attacked itself. Israel, though had to go to war twice already, in Lebanon, in 1982 and 2006. Another one is expected. All these were indirect Syrian wars. But now, Syria is willing to repeat the Hizballah strategy and engage Israel in its own war, perhaps as part of a larger war led by Iran.

your combination of the three no's of khartoum and "israel insists on breaking the law" is strange. may i remind you that the three no's of khartoum were the response to israel's offer to give back the land conquered during the six-day-war in return for peace with the arabs. what does this have to do with "israel insists on breaking the law"? please clarify. i cannot follow your thought.

Obama the Good is trying hard to get the Israel-Palestinian problem resolved. Unfortunately for him, he is dealing with Israel, run by Netanyahu the Bad from Likud. Likud the Ugly is too ideological to agree to give up Eretz Israel, and the present barrier is overcome (by some quiet agreement not to build in Jerusalem), there will be others, in every turn. Even the illegal settlements are not being evacuated, so who would agree to the evacuation of tens of thousands of settlers and really dividing Jerusalem? If Obama wants to get something useful from Netanyahu, he should work on him to give up the Golan and make peace with Syria. This will help greatly with Iran and avoid another useless war with Lebanon, at least. The Golan is not part of historic Eretz Israel (where the 12 tribes lived), so under pressure the Likud may disgorge it. After the Golan deal is done, let Obama undermine the Netanyahu regime (as Jim Baker undermined Shamir). Then there will be a possibility for peace. As Rashi said: "even the best of the snakes you must crush its brain."

Sorry I missed that class. When did the peace negotiations start with the 22 nation Arab League? And if the Arab League O.K.?s the US peace plan on Saturday will that in effect bind those 22 Arabs nation to that peace plan if signed by Mahmoud Abbas? Does that mean the Arab league has to chanced It?s policy of not negotiating with or recognizing Israel. This also makes Abbas look like a puppet of the Arab League and all the US can do is pressure Israel for more concessions. This has got to be the craziest thing I?ve ever read and this is the art of diplomacy? You wouldn?t last a week in Philadelphia!

you know that. The Saudi 2002 Initiative was a welcomed peace proposal and it's general parameters are consistent with the other peace proposals, but we are following the Quartet's Road Map and at this juncture the U.S. is requesting the beginning of proximity talks towards direct talks about the core issues. The Arab League's input is vital for peace in the Middle East, especially if the aim is a comprehensive peace between Israel and the remaining Arab League countries. I'm wondering why the Arab League is not influential with the extreme Islamic factions causing havoc throughout the Middle East? This is more concerning than the relations between Israelis and Palestinians.

... once you read the fine print, is a recipe of the destruction of Israel. It is the Peace of the Grave. Duplicitous to perfection, bizarre to a fault.

Would you negotiate while and after your face is slapped? The settlements are going on even as we comment, even while a slow-down or freeze was implemented by Netanyahu.

Having made the ultimate reasonable peace offer to Israel in its 2002 Arab League Peace Initiative, aka the Saudi Plan, this represents the zenith, the ultimate peak of what Israel should by any sane estimation expect to gain out of any bargaining. This is the FINAL OFFER. Dickering beyond this can only bring counterproductive results. Such negative results have been in abundance since 2002. End the delusion that there is anything to be gained in procrastination or negotiation. The Saudi Plan is just to perfection, generous to a falut.

The silence is deafening from Bibi's coalition. Do you know why? He has quietly taken them aside and told them that he would take Obama for a ride and give him nothing. Peace talks are a sham on Israels part and always have been. If peace comes it would be as a result of talks, it will be as a result of war. If America is serious about peace, then they should stop giving Israel billions of dollars in free weapons every year.

The only lesson the Arabs learned; to miss no opportunity to blame Israel & now they have Obama on their side they are encouraged to do what they always wanted to do ! Israel is just one of the Arab League failures for peace in the Mideast The disunity of the Arab Countries among themselves is anther example. Obama's first job in the Middle East should be the unity of the Arab Countries and not to bully Israel. Obama made it clear right from the start; he is ready to make Israel pay for his strategic plans in the Middle East. This conflict is turned by Obama into the Mideast that Obama wants & no longer an Arab-Israel conflict. Israel must talk about is future and security first & that must be its first & second & third core issue ! Otherwise, Israel is sleep walking !

... for permission when it comes to start serious negotiations? Is their goal not a INDIPENDENT Palestinian state? As long as they are subjugated to the Arab League's diktat, they will never achieve peace and national autonomy. Probably only a otiose question, since they are actually product and inseparable part of it. Their relationsship can be compared to that between a little child and its authoritarian stepmother.

Plaestinians have rejected Clinton's plan in 2000. Palestinians shouldn't be blamed for rejecting Barak proposals in Camp David, but for rejecting Clinton's proposals afterwards. Bibi Nataniahu should not be stupid and accept Obama's initiative. He should be in the right side of the game. In any case the palestinians will reject. They still think that the U N. will provide them what they don't deserve. they will get nothing without negotiations.

refusal of the Muslim-Arab (not Christian-Arab, not Druze-Arab) world, local and regional, to accept Israel's RIGHT to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people. 2. The conflict in question is not an Israeli Palestinian one but rather an Arab Israeli conflict in which there is a local component. This requirement to ask the Arab League if to negotiate or not is one example. Others: All major wars against Israel, i.e. 1948, 1967 and 1973, were initiated by coalitions of Muslim-Arab countries. The PLO was set up by the Arab League in 1964. And today a coalition of Muslim and Arab armed forces, i.e. Iran-Hizballah-IslamicJihad-Hamas-Syria is gearing up once again to attack Israel, this time with biological, chemical and nuclear weapons with the declared goal of wiping the UN member state and the nation-state of the Jewish people off the face of earth.

Great! the solution is for the Arab League to alot the palestinians a piece of land somewher.... Dino ios Right - the major reason for not solving the conflicts are 2: the League and the palestians inability to choose practical and pragmatcc leadres able to decide. They do not have a Ben Gurion, have they? Palesine in our lifetime - FORGET IT!

It's been around for a while. They advertised it in this newspaper not so long ago in the Bush Presidency's twilight days in order to draw attention to it. It has not, to my knowledge, received any official reaction from an Israeli Government. Whatever Al Watan thinks is going to happen, the Arab League will decide this weekend, not today. It'll be interesting to watch what happens over the next few days.

it's so old. # 1 is right, the Saudis have done everything possible to destroy Israel, w/o success. This DOA plan is a joke, a bad joke that Israel has every right to reject. So, it's fitting that Obama s newest allies, the Saudis, reject him as well, he's only their 'message boy' and they are the first to remind him of his tenuous position.

The Arabs have been led down the garden path before, so its understandable that they be wary of the Israelis in particualr. Nevertheless, if it is true that they will decline the chance for peace talks, best they explain why, as rightly or wrongly, they will be blamed for non attendance unless the reasons are transparently valid.

The Arab peace plan is still on the table, but frankly what's the point of talking to a government with Lieberman as its FM, and full of Shas and Likud? The Arab League has no partner for peace in today's israel. It's taken huge US pressure even to get Bibi to utter the words 'two state solution' and 'temporary, partial freeze on settlements'. He's never going to agree to a fair solution and to set the Pals free, because his government would fall if he did and pretty much all Bibu cares about is being Prime Minister.

No US president has ever shown so much reverence to a foreign people as Obama has shown to the Muslims. Obama has once again promised a commitment to a "new beginning" with the Muslim world. He has vowed an unwavering support for a two-state solution. Obama has been attempting an intense engagement with the Muslim world. He has done so while bullying Israel at every occasion. Obama has recently declared that Israel is at the core of US-Muslim hostilities. His NSA, Jim Jones, repeated the same just the other day. Yet, the Arab League is poised to rebuke Obama in his effort to restart Israel-Palestinian talks. This rebuke comes despite continual humiliation of Israel by Obama and his people. It comes despite an unprecedented freeze in building in the West Bank and recently in so-called East Jerusalem. Clearly, the Arabs are contemptuous. Clearly they are unimpressed. Clearly they are ungrateful. Those who call Obama's critiques "racist," should draw the logical conclusions.

It will, of course, all be the Arabs' fault. For some reason, they suspect Israel of insincerity. They probably even have some crazy idea that they're to be bamboozled into accepting 'temporary' borders that will turn out to be about as 'temporary' as those Israel gained in 1948. I'll bet they're even going to demand a whole fifth of Palestine. How greedy can you get?

are we back at the three no`s of khartoum?" Probably, if Israel insists on breaking the law.

....would be pretty useless, I still think that the Palestinians should be able to decide for themselves, when the time has come to seriously negotiate with Israel, and not first have to ask their (big) Arab brothers for permission. In order to have a say in that matter, their Arab brothers have done far too little for them over the past decade(s)....

It will be interesting to watch the Left twist on this, explaining why it is OK for the Arabs but not for the Jews.

and demand maturity and ethical behavior from these clowns who cause such misery among the Palestinians left to rot in Arab run refugee camps.

Israel thinks Jews control America, hence, there is no need to give up the occupation of West Bank and Jerusalem. America has two stark choices: succumb to Israeli bullying, or defend American interests in the Arab-Muslim world. Now is the hour of truth. Either we stand for America or for Jewish settlement expansion. the two don't go hand in hand

then maybe the Arabs won't see this round of peace talks as a waste of time like the rest of the planet.

And Obama will continue reaching out to the Arab/Muslim world and will continue to be slapped in the face by them.

The Arab League is to blame for the problems in the ME ever since its creation.