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Efforts to resume peace process || Netanyahu worried Kerry drifting toward Arab League stance on two-state solution
The Arab League declared it will allow small shifts in Israel's 1967 border as part of its Mideast peace plan.
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25 0 0What's the problem with the two state solution?
- By Joe
- 02 May 2013
- 08:46PM
Is there something I'm missing?
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24 0 0FEAR of Justice, FEAR of Law, FEAR of fairness, FEAR of good faith and FEAR of the international consensus. Says a lot about Israel.
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- 02 May 2013
- 07:27PM
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23 0 0"Netanyahu worried"
- By Donald Mintz
- 02 May 2013
- 03:49PM
It is a great delight to a liberal American Jew (like me) to see the US taking a firm stand for some approximation of fairness in this process. It is time for Bibi to understand that so long as he relies on the US for financial and military aid, it is important for him to realize that he does not make US foreign policy. Three cheers for Kerry. And it's about time!
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Stare at the light. You are getting sleepy, sleepy, sleepy
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- 02 May 2013
- 07:04PM
Kerry does as he is told. He is a marchmallow. That is why he got the job.
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We need more liberal Jews like you
- By Taner
- 02 May 2013
- 08:37PM
Kudos to your stance.
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Justice
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- 03 May 2013
- 00:05AM
Time to truly investigate the attack on the USS Liberty & bring to justice those who gave the orders in the first place.
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There ARE a lot of liberal Jews, in the US. 52% are NOT zionist.
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- 03 May 2013
- 01:16AM
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Most American Jews ARE liberal and 52% are no longer zionist.
- By Melissa
- 03 May 2013
- 09:26PM
Why? Jewish values and ethics are incompatible with Eurocentric colonial apartheid.
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22 0 0Time to state Israel's position regarding peace.
- By Rob
- 02 May 2013
- 03:04PM
For years Israel has never stated a peace treaty therefore countries are more likely to side with the Arab League because they take a position. If Israel want to change world opinion into their favour, they will eventually have to repeatedly state their regarding a peace treaty or face greater Isolation from their allies.
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21 0 0Bibi should accept this offer
- By An Israeli
- 02 May 2013
- 02:21PM
First of all it's a starting point. Then he can offer a carrot and stick approach in negotiation. He can threaten that if the Abbas won't agree to a larger swap 1) We will insist that the areas we swap in return be areas now populated by Israeli 'Palestinians' and not vacant land 2) He can threaten that if we don't get the settlements we want, we won't insist that the settlers in the unswapped areas return to Israel, and he (Abbas) will have to deal with them. We also can offer to 'pay extra' for a higher percentage - i.e the first 1.9% on a 1 to 1 basis, the next 2 % on a 1 to 1.5 basis and the next 2% at a 2 to 1 basis. Or we can offer to allow building a Chunnel under our territory to connect Gaza with the West Bank, assuming Gaza is a complete party to the agreement (i.e declares that it accepts the State of Israel and ends all claims against it.)
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Israel doesn't hold the whip hand, anymore. She'll get two states at the Green LIne, of one state,
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- 03 May 2013
- 01:18AM
The world community has had it with all the stalling.
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20 0 0look at that, israel is "worried" US accepting peace and not annexation
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- 02 May 2013
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too absurd to even comment really.
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Not too worried
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- 02 May 2013
- 07:06PM
obama's temporary Israel is eternal.
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Like it was the last time?
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- 02 May 2013
- 11:10PM
n/m
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Israel hasn't legally annexed a single centimeter of land.
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- 03 May 2013
- 01:19AM
Plus, she can't. She has to get a 50% approval vote from the residents. to annex.
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You live in
- By David
- 06 May 2013
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a fantasy world. With each passing day Israel is increasingly viewed around the world as a racist/rogue/pariah state. It faces the same fate as apartheid South Africa. In the long run, one state and the demise of Zionisim are inevitable
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19 0 0Netanyahu ducks,dives,squirms and wriggles!
- By inbound39
- 02 May 2013
- 00:23PM
Israels only legitimately recognised and declared borders are those of 1948. Arab Peace Initiative offers Netanyahu and Israel all it has ever asked for in peace deals and all it ever wanted. Missiles put secure borders beyond reach for every nation in the World. Netanyahu just dribbles on. America,Great Britain and the UN need to reimpose the Original Partition Plan and let Israel lump it. It has never presented any map or alternative peace proposal and call Palestinian demands pre conditions when in fact Palestinians are only asking for Israel to comply with International Law and its previous signed agreements. Netanyahu has boxed himself well and truly into a corner. And not before time.
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18 0 0Netanyahu must succumb to the this 1967 peace deal else the whole world will look at Israel in doubt...
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- 02 May 2013
- 11:36AM
Israels can't use holocaust or anti-antisemitism anymore and no one willing to buy it...just leave the occupied land and accept what you have or else there won't be any peace for Jews for generations and it's enemies are getting stronger day by day...
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17 0 0No compromises.
- By Jason
- 02 May 2013
- 11:33AM
"The Arab League declared it will allow small shifts in Israel's 1967 border as part of its Mideast peace plan." Israel and the Almighty have another thing to say about this. It's not a wise move, to try and take more of the inheritance, that was given to the Jews.
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# 17 Jason you are more than right!!!!
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Maybe that's why so many Muslims are dying?
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Inheritance? Where's the will?
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16 0 0Bibi's nightmare come true..US - Arab League concense, forcing Netanyahu to present an Israeli peace plan - including BORDERS.
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Walt, accepting today what you refused yeterday and which is no more available for tomorrow, is not a nightmare, just the proof...
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- 02 May 2013
- 11:23AM
...You are not ready to accept a solution of the problem!!!
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Mosheh, what is the solution of the problem ?
- By Walt D
- 02 May 2013
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One-state solution with equal rights for both Jews and Arabs ? That would never be accepted by no Israeli government. An Independent Palestinian state controlled by the IDF ? No way. What's left is the present Status quo Situation, with the settlements growing and growing to such an extent that a Palestinian state can no longer materialize.....and that was the Israeli Intention from the beginning.
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Walt D, there is no other solution that the two states one. But the first step, for reaching any agreement is......
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- 02 May 2013
- 01:08PM
That Palestinians have to be united and to discuss with only one voice and not as now, one weak voice for the peace from an A.P with no autority and another one for its refusal...
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Walt D, there is no other solution that the two states one. But the first step, for reaching any agreement is......
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- 02 May 2013
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...Palestinians have first to agree to tallk with only one voice and not as now an A.P with no autority using a weak voice for discussing peace and an other voice for its refusal!
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Solution? GREAT! Throw it on the table!
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- 03 May 2013
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No. The world community has already decided on the two state.
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- 03 May 2013
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They can impose borders-- that is, only recognize Israel to the Green LIne. I prefer the one state, myself.
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Walt D, to point out my words of yesterday about the needing of a unique Palestinian voice for starting any peace talks with Israel…
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- 03 May 2013
- 07:22PM
....Here it is the words of Ismail Haniyeh the 3 may 2013 for rejecting Arab League initiative for Israeli-Palestinian peace: «The initiative contains numerous dangers to our people in the occupied land of 1967, 1948 and to our people in exile.»
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The world community knows that israel doesn't want a peaceful solution.
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- 03 May 2013
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Israel will either GET the two states at the Green LIne, or one state.
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True! The Palestinians have already chosen the Green LIne.
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- 03 May 2013
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The Green LIne HAS been approved by the UN and even the US. Simply insist as a people that any l;and exchanges (which WILL be necessary) MUSTG be based on worth, not area. OR, Palestinians CAN choose one state, which might even be better. Israel will have to assume all the costs of infrastructure. The world community will insist upon a Constitution (which the Palestinians have already drawn up, saving Israel the work). That Constitution offers equal rights, and a religion-blind court system, already. Right of return for diasporized refugees is already international law AND Israel law. Palestinians will be the majority, and can vote back in the state's historic name. This is EXACTLY what the CIA predicted will occur by about 2020. If either side doesn't like what's on the table, sha has to 1) Organize and speak with ONE mind, 2) come up with a better proposal that the world community will accept. and 3) Israel will have to get up offer her butt and stop wishing that it will all go away.
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15 0 0I thought
- By TC
- 02 May 2013
- 09:37AM
Bibi had offered "unconditional" talks! the Palestinians are the least of Israeli security threats. They have no military, their rockets, which haven't been fired in months seldom hit anything, and Israeli military strikes them at will without repercussions. How can this be the first precondition! Apparently borders aren't on the table for negotiation either. Remind me again, who is an obstacle to peace?
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Binny offered unconditional talks, then laid down two dozen conditions.
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- 03 May 2013
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14 0 0Why doesn't Netanyahu lay out what he will accept/
- By Humanist
- 02 May 2013
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Does Netanyahu think that the Palestinians will accept just a figment of a state, a state surrounded by Israel in the same way that Lesotho was surrounded by apartheid South Africa. Netanyahu in one of his pre-conditions has said that Israel will retain the Jordan Valley and since Israel is already kicking out Palestinian residents of the Valley this would make any Palestinian state a land locked one in which anyone wanting to visit Palestine would have to go through Israel. All of this is a non-starter. It is past time for the US and the EU to lay down the law. Israel will move to the 1967 line or face boycott and sanctions.
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Binny doesn't have a proposal to submit. He's closing his eyes and trying to wish it all away.
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- 03 May 2013
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Binny won't "accept" anything. The solution, whether two or one state,. will have to be imposed.
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13 0 0Peace
- By Simon
- 02 May 2013
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It's clear Israel can't afford peace ! Who will employ all the EX soldiers, which universities will they attend. Having outsourced the occupation so successfully for so long, who will make up the financial shortcomings. Who will do the cheap labour and with whom will they fill all the prisons. Who will employ all the people now not involved in the military, security and related industries. Looks very much like an own goal to me.
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12 0 0Netanyahu is concerned about anything
- By Giora Me'ir
- 02 May 2013
- 07:54AM
that would threaten the occupation and ongoing colonization.
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11 0 0A Peaceless Middle East
- By Jeff
- 02 May 2013
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Whether Kerry & Co. drift left or right one thing is certain: The Jihadists turn to Mecca five times a day and sing their praises to two things. They celebrate Mohammed and they thank Allah for sending them P.M. Netanyahu whose settlement policy continues to be the best recruiting tool they have.
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AND U.S DRONES.
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- 02 May 2013
- 08:19PM
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10 0 0Kerry drifting, perhaps Obama has decided to turn up the heat.
- By Uncle Sam
- 02 May 2013
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Sanity may yet reign. Hurry!
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Cabinet members do exactly with the POTUS says to do.
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- 03 May 2013
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09 0 0Netanyahu is worried
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- 02 May 2013
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Netanyahu is worried about any plan that might actually lead to peace and that would require him to make good on the empty declarations with which he has tried to fool the world.
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The entire world community sees Binny as an empty suit.
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- 03 May 2013
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Binny has three channels: 1) begging, 2) threatening (without the ability to carry out said threats(, 3) throwing tantrums.
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08 0 0He Said, She Said
- By Vittorio Antonio
- 02 May 2013
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Israel will not face reality meaning that Netanyahu entity will never accept a viable Palestinian two-state solution. So the band plays on. This issue will only be resolved by the judgment of an international tribunal + a declaration of take it or suffer the political and economic consequences declaration by the international community.
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07 0 0peace?
- By nan
- 02 May 2013
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there will not be peace and God help the nation that trues to diveide the land God gave to the Jews."as you have done to My people" for those who try to pressure Israel to give their land for peace, The Almighty will do to theirs.We lost our empire because we would not regognise Isrraels right to their own land which was legally and God given, theirs. We are now a third wolrd island, lost it all!. America, leave Israle alone and mind your own buisness. The terrorists and arabs are not for peace
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Should they keep their money too?
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- 02 May 2013
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If America should mind its own business should they also take back their Iron Dome that protects your cities, the guns from the arms of your soldiers and the money that it funnels into your economy? Should it go back to supporting the Turks like they have since the fall of the second world war and go back to ignoring Israel like it did under the mandate? No. they shouldnt. They should strive for Peace, equality and freedom, regardless of religion.
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Don't blame "America," please
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- 02 May 2013
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Kerry and Obama do not represent us as a whole. They only represent the liberal faction of our nation. The conservatives of the US (most of us) support Israel. It's simply unfortunate that the liberals have the presidential pulpit. They are ignorant beyond description.
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Oh Bill Bill Bill
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- 02 May 2013
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We won! Get over it. Conservatives are the majority in America? Don't make me laugh. They might be in your hillbilly town, but not in America. Not to mention conservatives like Pat Buchanan and their feelings for Israel.
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chosen
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- 02 May 2013
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I think your prayers will be answered, everyone will turn their back.
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OK! Give our $12-15 billion back, and we'll all go home!
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- 03 May 2013
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Who pays the piper calls the tune. We have 15 billion reasons to interfere.
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MOST are conservatives? How dod O win in a LANDSLIDE TWICE?
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- 03 May 2013
- 01:28AM
hahahahahahaha!
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Great! Then, the Almighty will no doubt be happy to write on he wall
- By Melissa
- 03 May 2013
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at the UN and/or the ICC! End of problem!
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06 0 0Middle East Peace
- By Jason Moses
- 02 May 2013
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Anyone who thinks Israel wants peace is mistaken. It is not to Israel advantage to make peace, because it holds the west bank, will always cry to Washington to give them money and the latest modern weapons . Israelis are very skillfull in negotiating without results. They have been doing it since 1992.
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05 0 0Drifting towards?? Obama and Kerry's stance has always backed the Arabs
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- 02 May 2013
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Their entire worldview backs the Arabs
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Absolute FOS ... The World Demands Justice ... no more no less
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Justice was already served in 1967
- By Bill
- 02 May 2013
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Don't attack someone if you're not willing to give something up upon loss.
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Who attacked whom in June 1967, Bill?
- By Johnboy
- 02 May 2013
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I believe you will find that it is ISRAEL who went Whammer-Jammer!!!! on the Egyptian armed forces, not vice versa.
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I disagree!
- By BrooklynIsIsrael
- 02 May 2013
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n/m
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Yeah, but Israel got whupped when she attacked Lebanon in 'o6
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Good advice! Are you listening, Israel?
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04 0 0more blather on a dead issue
- By CB
- 02 May 2013
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Two states? There is no place for a second one and no place for even one that is an anachronism - believing in liberty and justice for only one group. That is so yesterday, before Martin Luther King, before Nelson Mandela, an idea that belongs in the 18th and 19th centuries. Eventually Israel, repudiated by Jews of the diaspora who are repulsed by it, will be one state for all the people, Jewish or not. Anything less is a mockery of Yad Vashem, a place so antithetical to Binyamin Netanyahu's ideas that I would expect the ground it stands on to shake when he approaches.
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yes
- By antoine
- 02 May 2013
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That is where history is going
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It is already one state, but just not a democratic one.
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- 02 May 2013
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The CIA predicted one state by about 2020
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...2020 of the muslim calendar!!!
- By MOSHEH
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03 0 0Kerry...
- By Steve Grumman
- 02 May 2013
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...has to start somewhere and since Netanyahu has done nothing but obfuscate and bully, the Arabs are providing the way forward where Bibi has failed.
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02 0 0Arab League is Adopting PLO Phased Plan
- By Chaim Ben Kahan
- 02 May 2013
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Kerry must not fall for old PLO tricks.
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chaim b
- By potobac
- 02 May 2013
- 06:24AM
I'm sure Kerry will pay the closest attention to your command of what he must do.
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Chaim, get a job and buy a home. If Israel goes to the ICC, the squatters will have legal problems.
- By Melissa
- 03 May 2013
- 01:31AM
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Kerry works for Obama. Obama works for his constituents.
- By Melissa
- 03 May 2013
- 09:13PM
Israelis are not Obama's constituents.
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01 0 0How complicated is this? All the Israeli peace proposals revolvedaround the 1967 cease-fire lines ...
- By Smadar
- 02 May 2013
- 03:42AM
As far as everyone knows, all the peace proposals entailed territorial boundaries revolving around the 1967 cease-fire line and UNSC Res. 242 reiterates the same with security for Israel taken into account. Both PM Ehud Barak (2000) and PM Ehud Olmert (2008) followed this premise of the 1967 borders, as well as the Geneva Accord (2005) and The Arab League Peace Plan of 2002.
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Under Netanyahu I don't think Israel has even made a peace proposal
- By O
- 02 May 2013
- 07:17AM
So who knows what such a hypothetical beast would revolve around. If I had to guess it would revolve around continued occupation of Palestine, which is something of a non-starter.
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thats why we love him so much. we dont want peace. its not difficult.
- By 2O
- 02 May 2013
- 08:15AM
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Yes it is complex
- By inbound39
- 02 May 2013
- 09:21AM
So complex that Abba Eban rejected 242 on Israel behalf claiming Israel would follow its own Path. Israel has had reminders yearly from the UN ever since to comply with 242.
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Smadar, all Israel,s faux proposals revolved around the following
- By labhras
- 02 May 2013
- 01:19PM
In 1938, Ben-Gurion made it clear of his support for the "Jewish state" on part of Palestine was only as a stepping ground for a complete conquest. He wrote: "[I am] satisfied with part of the country, but on the basis of the assumption that after we build up a strong force following the establishment of the state--we will abolish the partition of the country and we will expand to the whole Land of Israel." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 107 & One Palestine Complete, p. 403) * One day after the UN vote to partition Palestine, Menachem Begin, the commander of the Irgun gang and Israel's future Prime Minister between 1977-1983, proclaimed: "The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized .... Jerusalem was and will for ever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And for Ever." (Iron Wall p. 25) * ""Shamir has said Israel must keep the territories in order to accommodate the immigrants. "A great aliyah [immigration]," he said, "requires a Greater Israel."(5) He has insisted that, although Soviet Jews are not being directed to the territories, any Jew has the right to live anywhere in the land of Israel, which for most Israelis includes the territories.
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That was in 1938, in response to the Peel plan
- By An Israeli
- 02 May 2013
- 02:08PM
which only allocated 20% of Palestine to the Jews. (And for all of you who are now going to argue, yes but Jews were only 20% of the population, I'll just point out that the Mandate called for establishing a national homeland for the Jewish people in Palestine - i.e for all the worlds Jews who numbered about 12 million then, not for just the Jews who were then in Palestine. I'll also point out that that plan also called for transferring the Arabs OUT of the Jewish area.Even so, if the state had been established then and the entire 6 million who were killed by the Nazis had managed to flee to it, it would have been way too small. Moreover, in 1938 the Right of Conquest still existed. The US was still engaged in Indian wars in its Southwest as late as 1924.
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In your dreams
- By inbound39
- 02 May 2013
- 03:31PM
The Mandate called for a home for Jews in Palestine...they would have been issued Palestinian Passports. There was no mention of removing all Arabs from Palestine at all. Jews were allowed to live there with the proviso they did not interfere with the rights or freedoms of the indigenous already living there. Israel has never managed its immigration. It has never put a cap on it. If you want to overcrowd your state that is your problem. The Palestinians should not have to pay for your mismanagement or lapse in a realistic view. Nor is it a reason for Palestinians to give any of their land to you.
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The Peel Commission Plan Did in Fact Call for Transferring Arabs
- By An Israeli
- 02 May 2013
- 04:19PM
out of the Jewish part of the partition. The commission recommended abolishing the Mandate and establishing an Arab and a Jewish state, and removing the Arabs from the Jewish state and removing the Jews from the Arab state. Both sides rejected it., but the Jewish side at least wanted negotiations to try to reach an agreement. Now, as to whose land was whose. By 1948 Jews had purchased (at exorbitant prices up to $1000 an acre for non arable land, while fertile land in Iowa was selling for $110 an acre) about 9% of the land in what is now Israel. So you might imagine that like what all the maps you see produced by Palestinians propagandists on the Internet that Arabs owned the other 90%. That, however, is a lie. Arabs who remained in what is now Israel owned only 3%. Arabs who fled from what is now Israel owned 16%. The rest, some 70% was state land, owned at the time by the British government, and passed to Israeli sovereignty in 1948. Up to 1970 Israel was still offering to compensate anyone who had lost land who could prove ownership. Meanwhile back at the ranch, the UN estimated that land lost by Jews who fled Arab countries amounted to up to 10 times that which was owned by Arabs who fled Israel. They have never been offered compensation.
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@An Israeli - Real estate is not territory.
- By Phantomime
- 02 May 2013
- 05:13PM
I can own real estate in China, India, Canada, Iceland, but that does not mean it is owned by a country, or that it is the sovereign territory of my country. Those Jews you mentioned bought real estate in PALESTINE.
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Read my whole post --then feel free to waste my time.
- By labhras
- 02 May 2013
- 09:14PM
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The past is past
- By Carol Scheller
- 03 May 2013
- 10:41AM
How about concentrating on the needs of people living in this real estate or territory or land or whatever you want to call it NOW !
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And, this is 2013, and in 1949, Israel, and the first world, signed away right of land transfer by conquest.
- By Melissa
- 03 May 2013
- 09:18PM
She also signed agreement to borders, and declared said borders to the UN. She further ratified a limit of 75,000 immigrants into Israel, with an additional 25,000 if needed, and a further 25,000 IF the indigenes agreed. Do you have a point?
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Hasbara revisionist history.
- By Melissa
- 03 May 2013
- 09:24PM
If you will Google Irgun, Hagana, and the Stern Gang, you will see that almost 500 native villages were razed the native residents murdered or diasporized, and the lands seized by European immigrants BEFORE the earl;y '50s. The claim that all European-taken land was paid for, and the rest was state land is fiction. MOST of the world's people do NOT have the "advantage" of hasbara history. We have to make do with real world history classes.
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