• Published 10:54 30.05.10
  • Latest update 10:54 30.05.10

Report: Israel to deploy nuclear-armed submarines off Iran coast

Sunday Times quotes IDF official saying the 3 German-made long range submarines will gather intelligence, act as deterrent and potentially land Mossad agents.

By Haaretz Service Tags: Israel news Iran nuclear Israel nuclear

Israel is to deploy three submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles in the Persian Gulf, the Sunday Times reported on Sunday.

According to the Times report, one submarine had been sent over Israeli fears that ballistic missiles developed by Iran, and in the possession of Syria and Hezbollah, could be used to hit strategic sites within Israel, such as air bases and missile launchers.

Dolphin, Tekuma, and Leviathan, all German-made Dolphin class submarines of the 7th navy Flotilla, have been reported as frequenting the Gulf in the past, however, according to the Sunday Times report, this new deployment is meant to ensure a permanent naval presence near the Iranian coastline.

A flotilla officer told the Times that the deployed submarines were meant to act as a deterrent, gather intelligence and potentially to land Mossad agents.

"We're a solid base for collecting sensitive information, as we can stay for a long time in one place," the officer said.

The flotilla's commander, identified only as "Colonel O," was quoted by the Times as saying that the submarine force was "an underwater assault force. We’re operating deep and far, very far, from our borders."

The submarines could be used if Iran continues its program to produce a nuclear bomb. "The 1,500km range of the submarines’ cruise missiles can reach any target in Iran," a navy officer told the Times.

Apparently responding to the reported Israeli activity, an Iranian admiral told the Times: "Anyone who wishes to do an evil act in the Persian Gulf will receive a forceful response from us."

Last July, defense sources reported that an Israeli submarine had sailed the Suez Canal to the Red Sea last month, describing the unusual maneuver as a show of strategic reach in the face of Iran.

Israel has long kept its three Dolphin-class submarines, which are widely assumed to carry nuclear missiles, away from Suez so as not to expose them to the gaze of Egyptian harbormasters.

 

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  • 66. 21 7
    How Israel should deal with Iran
    • Logios
    • 30.05.10
    • 22:15

    Israel has no realistic military option against Iran (with US dispproval), other than a nuclear strike which is unacceptable before the Iranians have a nuclear weapon and are ready to use it. The distance to Iranian nuclear installation is bigger than what the roundtrip range of the most capable Israeli plane can do without midair refueling. (Where?) The installations are also well dispersed and some locations may be unknown. Here is a completely different alternative for Israel: 1. Make peace with Syria. The Syrians offered it to Sharon (following Hafez Assad moves). Syria at peace will kill Hizballah, and get Meshal and other Palestinian rejectionists out of there. Cost: The Golan. 2. Make peace with Lebanon. Papa Assad promised this will follow, and Syria can deliver. No more arms supply to Hizballah. 3. Make peace with the Palestinians. Abbas wants it, and Fayyad is establishing a state whether Israel likes it or not. Cost: Practically all the Territories except for some exchanges. 4. Make peace with all Arab states, as per the Saudi plan. 5. Iran, having been pushed out of the region, looks elsewhere to cause trouble. Iraq and Afghanistan will keep them and the US busy. Israel is no longer of central interest to them.

  • 65. 42 10
    Who is agressive here?
    • Jerry
    • 30.05.10
    • 20:54

    It's true that Iran is provoking with strong language. But Israel threatens them with a real attack. Who did Iran attack so far? Something is not right here.

  • 64. 16 30
    Great move
    • Avi
    • 30.05.10
    • 20:21

    While I'm usually against extreme measures, I find this to be an excellent move by Israel. For too long we've been threatened with missiles from hamas, hezbollah, syria and iran that can reach any point in israel. Now the scales are equal and Iran is also vulnerable. Israeli haters are gonna hate :D. Let them taste some of their own medicine.

  • 63. 8 15
    well done Germany!
    • edgar
    • 30.05.10
    • 20:15

    EVery little bit helps!

  • 62. 42 12
    Who is the existential threat?
    • SHF
    • 30.05.10
    • 19:56

    Clearly, Israel is an existential threat to Iran, not the other way around.

  • 61. 13 9
    submarines are for distraction
    • mehmet
    • 30.05.10
    • 19:35

    Israel probably deployed these subs to diffuse the attention of the enemy. They probably serve little intelligence purpose and them carrying nukes does not fit any sound strategic plan. They are simply there to muddy the waters.

  • 60. 35 15
    Israeli Submarines
    • The Big Goy
    • 30.05.10
    • 19:08

    So the Germans on their endless guilt trip gave Israel 2 diesel submarines and allowed them to buy a third [heavily subsidized by unwitting European taxpayers]. Krupp-Thyssen were then persuaded to modify the torpedo tubes to fit Popeye nuclear capable cruise-missiles. Great; the same psychos who dropped cluster munitions and napalm on Lebanese civilians and used flechettes, white phosphorus and DIME on the Gazans are now threatening the Persians with nuclear weapons. Maybe now the USA will begin to enforce the Armament Export Act. And maybe...just maybe Egypt will close the Suez Canal to Israeli submarine transits and lock these boats out of their mediterranean ports [preferably with 2 rotating boats south of Suez].

  • 59. 10 11
    there are probably subs in the Gulf but the IDF hasn't said so on the record
    • zionist forever
    • 30.05.10
    • 19:03

    It seems to edge on the verge of stupidity for any senior IDF officer to go on the record and say we have subs & Mossad agents operating in Iran. If its though almost certain Israel does have subs operating in Iranian waters, whats the point of a second strike weapon i you never send it anywhere? In 2009 Israel took delivery of another 2 subs not currently operational and the navy wants a sixth with 5-6 subs its obvious Israel wants to extend its military power well beyond its shores not have the things sailing around Israels borders all the time. It may be a good idea for Israel to look into setting up a submarine base abroad possibly in a country like Greece and also maybe basing some jets abroad so the IAF is not grounded in the event its runways are all bombed in a war. It can only be good for relations, possibly lead to military exports and it allows Israel to pack a punch well beyond its borders.

  • 58. 9 5
    Israel doesn't have Nuclear Submarines
    • Shoded Yam
    • 30.05.10
    • 18:56

    Like most submarines, the Dolphins are powered by a dual propulsion system. Most conventional submarines have both diesels for surface operations and battery-powered electric motors for operating while submerged. The Dolphins, while retaining the diesels, have a hydrogen-fuel cell powered AIP (air-independent propulsion) system while submerged. This allows the submarine to remain underwater for about 2 weeks. While revolutionary, the Dolphins are not nuclear

  • 57. 2 0
    You cannot deploy
    • sounds rather improbable
    • 30.05.10
    • 18:51

    the whole force at the same time. The going formula is: one on station, one on transit, one refitting/R&R.

  • 56. 18 24
    Israeli subs...good work...........
    • Martin Jeffrey
    • 30.05.10
    • 18:46

    What really amazes me are the ignorant comments from the Israel bashers.............no matter what Israel does whether defensive or pro-active it's all Israels fault and they are the aggressors..............wake up you fools.....this is called deterrence...every major power uses it even without the threats that Israel faces.......bravo to the IDF........long live the great nation of Israel....and "never again"....means just that..........

  • 55. 16 6
    will this show of nuclear submarines bring peace to israel?
    • Tony Silver - Kopenhagen
    • 30.05.10
    • 18:15

    I myself doubt a lot. It will make the Middle East States run to have their nuclear weapons too.

  • 54. 4 6
    O' really?
    • un2here
    • 30.05.10
    • 18:15

    This excellently planted leak still might not deter Hamas from using the nukes they've gotten from North Korea...

  • 53. 1 0
    You can read about these subs
    • Sub Expert
    • 30.05.10
    • 18:11

    in a novel published last year "Depth of Revenge." It is about the use of these submarines against Iran.

  • 52. 9 7
    German nuclear cruise missiles-submirines
    • Ricardo Kolbe
    • 30.05.10
    • 18:06

    Sir, the terrible aspect of this "TIMES" article is the explicit mentioning that we talk here of GERMAN-built submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles deployed in the GulF/Arab Sea close to Iran. Under normal circumstances this deal should not have happened according to German Law. I was informed that German ex-FM Fischer was one of the persons who supported this deal. The other fact is that Israel did not pay much in contrary to the German taxpayers. The worst thing however is that the Fed. Rep. of Germany supports the imperial ambitions of Medinat Israel.

  • 51. 10 13
    intelligence is everything
    • TOMY
    • 30.05.10
    • 17:57

    Israel is a small country but a very intelligent one . And she uses intelligence as the most potent weapon , after which the technology kicks in . I wish them luck and the best of all .

  • 50. 14 15
  • 49. 10 6
    subs
    • Terry
    • 30.05.10
    • 16:59

    Good move. Stick the subs in a confined body of fairly shallow water. Then try to land agents on Iranian soil. If caught It would be an act of war.

  • 48. 5 5
    is this a act of war guys?
    • free gaza
    • 30.05.10
    • 16:57

  • 47. 1 0
    Israeli Submarines
    • Bernard Yablin
    • 30.05.10
    • 16:38

    As long as Israel doesnt provoke any wrong responses

  • 46. 28 10
    Who threatens who?
    • John, Manchester, UK
    • 30.05.10
    • 16:24

    Iran with it's non existent nuclear arsenal, or Israel when it parks submarines in the Gulf. I think we all know who is threatening and who should feel most under threat. I hope international sanctions swiftly follow.

  • 45. 11 1
    A Few Questions.
    • Cool B
    • 30.05.10
    • 16:23

    "Israel is to deploy three submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles in the Persian Gulf, the Sunday Times reported on Sunday." Is Israel admitting in this article that they do have nuclear weapons? Would Germany, a peaceful nation, actually give Israel a piece of equipment that is capable of delivering a nuclear warhead? Does Israel have the guts to play cat and mouse games off Iran's coast.

  • 44. 3 1
    Well, yeah, but only one at a time
    • Johnboy
    • 30.05.10
    • 15:43

    The article does, in fact, point that out even though it is written to make the gullible think that all three will be on station all the time. They aren't nuclear-powered, folks, so they can not remain on station for extended periods. One on station, one preparing to replace it, and one back home.

  • 43. 7 14
    Subs
    • megh
    • 30.05.10
    • 15:34

    Iran made it clear that they want Israel off the map and therefore it is natural for Israel to respond in whatever way it feels good. Those who stand against Israel wish the same.

  • 42. 7 12
    Submarines
    • carer
    • 30.05.10
    • 15:25

    To all those writing in support of the peaceful Iranians. Have no fear. I am confident that the presence of Israeli submarines will in no way deter the Iranian powers from intimidating, incarcerating torturing and murdering any opposition.

  • 41. 6 0
    Loose lips sink ships!
    • MIKE
    • 30.05.10
    • 15:00

    How does information like this go public? Very irresponsible.

  • 40. 7 8
    and American ships are en route to aid Israel in the gulf
    • Petra
    • 30.05.10
    • 14:51

    Iran began rattling the call to arms and the US and Israel answered the threatening call in a show of force against Iran who had hoped to stop any ship into the gulf w/o Iran's permission, in effect, to end oil sales to any nation they choose. Another hair brained Iranian threat called, answered and now, waiting for the next provocation by Iran for a war. This summer seems to be the time that Iran, Syria, and her allies, will try to start a war against the west, and her allies. Now, thanks to this, the US and Israel are best friends again.

  • 39. 1 7
    nuclear submarines are EASY to detect
    • golem
    • 30.05.10
    • 14:38

    because they make a lot of noise, therefore giving extra advantage to iranians to sink them.

  • 38. 37 69
    Israel defence
    • Paul price
    • 30.05.10
    • 14:07

    I as a United Kingdom citizen am sick of all the lies and propaganda carried out by the western media against Israel, Israel is the only sane country in the middle east whose foreign citizens get the same rights as Israeli citizens and regarding a two state solution it is just another lie to take more land off Israel and give it to the arabs,

  • 37. 15 9
    Report !?!?
    • Yosi
    • 30.05.10
    • 14:03

    Aren`t these kind of material supposed to be classified. I find this highly unreliable.....

    • 0 0
      Well
      • Avi
      • 30.05.10
      • 20:52

      Wouldn't be released unless the Israel wanted them to know. Then it can serve its purpose as a deterrent.

  • 36. 22 14
    Israel shown off...
    • Critic
    • 30.05.10
    • 13:55

    with donated submarines. How pathetic.

  • 35. 9 10
    The justification is easy. Saving your life...You push me,
    • Censored by Liberals
    • 30.05.10
    • 13:51

    I push you back.. You try to wipe me out? I wipe you out first. It's a masculine thing.

  • 34. 16 31
    Easy targets
    • Wendy
    • 30.05.10
    • 13:43

    A couple of Iranian bombs will sink the subs.

  • 33. 21 22
    How many cruise missiles has each submarine got?
    • Chris Linthwaite
    • 30.05.10
    • 13:41

    How many nuclear sites are there in Iran? The fact is having one dolphin class submarine in the Persian Gulf is not a deterrent. If Iran can detect the movement of an American nuclear Submarine it is probable it will fongd a Dolphin Class submarine. In which case Iran's to do list will have at No 1. Sink Dolphin Class Submarine.

  • 32. 39 28
    Total Arrogance
    • Hagee
    • 30.05.10
    • 13:34

    And WHO is the threat to Middle East peace? Israel continues to fly in the face of international law and snub the worldwide community!

  • 31. 16 37
    i hope
    • someone
    • 30.05.10
    • 13:30

    there is an accident and they accidently shoot off all the nukes at iran, when iran is decimated, everything will be ok after dust settles, syria lebanon and hamaztran will be shit out of luch and wont do anything, and there will still be like a billiion muslims on the planet....still more than the world needs seems like a great solution to me

  • 30. 37 25
    If this is true, the government of Israel is bunch of insane fools!
    • See
    • 30.05.10
    • 13:18

    Iran has done absolutely nothing to warrant something like this! You right wing wackos might just get your war, yet. But don't think you'll enjoy it too much, because Israel will pay a heavy price from the international outrage.

    • 4 14
      what??
      • Sarah
      • 30.05.10
      • 19:08

      Iran has done nothing?? FInancing terrorism in Israel and around the world is nothing?? All you fundamental islam supporters should spend a week or two with Hamas or Hezbollah. Let's see for how long you can live or for how long you aren't kidnapped...

  • 29. 23 3
    Israeli nuclear submarines to be deployed
    • franco
    • 30.05.10
    • 13:15

    Has to be an I'll show you reaction to the NPT push. A very dangerous game is being played here.

  • 28. 10 0
    Israeli nuclear submarines to be deployed
    • franco
    • 30.05.10
    • 13:15

    Has to be an I'll show you reaction to the NPT push. A very dangerous game is being played here.

  • 27. 31 29
    Submarines
    • Nick from Melbourne - Australia
    • 30.05.10
    • 13:10

    Announcing the deployment of nuclear-armed submarines can only be assumed to mean a deterrent. Considering the overall position and the presence of the Madman of Tehran, this was not a bad idea. As Australians we root for the underdog, so I can only say WELL DONE and GOOD LUCK! Let's face it, one small Jewish state against a sea of Muslim enemies, you have been doing fine for the last 50 odd years.

  • 26. 24 21
    subs
    • megha
    • 30.05.10
    • 13:09

    Iran has already deleared in open to wipe of Israel and the Israeli respose is natural. Those who oppose Israel stand with Iran to wipe off Israel.

  • 25. 7 0
    future of Israel
    • fredfromfrance
    • 30.05.10
    • 13:00

    how do you see the future of israel ?

  • 24. 17 9
    Subs?
    • John the American
    • 30.05.10
    • 12:55

    What would Israel do if Iran positioned nuclear subs off the coast of Israel? Should Iran do differently?

    • 6 0
      You're late
      • Avi
      • 30.05.10
      • 20:38

      They already positioned proxies all around Israel. This is Israel's reply.

    • 18 5
      Iran
      • joaquim levi
      • 30.05.10
      • 21:20

      But Iran, that doesn't share a border, but is obsessed with Israel, has already done it. The Iranian "subs" are Hizbollah and Islamic Jihad on the borders of Israel.

  • 23. 32 6
    Submarines off Iran
    • Rigoletto
    • 30.05.10
    • 12:15

    You forgot to mention at what time they will arrive. How stupid can one be, to be believe in this? Hopefully the IDF acts with more intelligence.

    • 8 2
      nOT SO STUPID
      • SABRA
      • 30.05.10
      • 15:14

      BY way of deception we make war. Iran Also need to understand the brinkmanship they are p[laying. It is not just about Hizbullah arming, and Syria Arming. There will be horrendous consequences to all three countries should they pull the trigger on a war. Remember Israel has teh "Sampson Option" So bravo let the iranians understand ther is a response and a big one at that. No dobt these submariners have already received their orders should Iran or Hizbullah or even Syria start klaunching missiles.

  • 22. 94 117
    This is WONDERFUL news!
    • 30.05.10
    • 12:14

    What people seem to forget about the difference between Israeli having nukes, and Iran getting nukes, is that (1) Israel like any other nation with nukes, holds them as a DETERRENT, and NOT as an an instrument to dominate the middle east by intimidating other nations. Iran seeking nukes is not for a DETERRENT, but to ACTUALLY use them PROACTIVELY without provocation, INSTEAD as a last resort. No one seems to realize that IF Israel was an unstable psychotic dictatorship regime like it's neighbors, it would have ALREADY used their nukes by now. Israel can wipe out Iran tomorrow with a push of a button. Why don't they? Can you say the same about Iran on the first month they have the bomb? (2) While Hezbolla and Hamas are on the doorstep of Israel's borders, waiting for nuke shipments, I think it's absolutely BRILLIANT on Israel's part to make sure the Ayatolla and Ahmedinajad understand should a nuke "accidentally" fall into the hands of their pawns in Southern Lebanon or Gaza, there's now 3 vessels ready to respond right on Iran's doorstep as well. Absolutely brilliant chess move by Israel, those 3 submarines may very well be the main weapon which keeps every man, woman and child safe in Israel. Bravo to Israel and this strategic move.

    • 15 22
      Not so sure
      • Will from Bradford
      • 30.05.10
      • 14:06

      Any sane state would maintain nuclear weapons only as a deterrent. In Israel’s case, the deterrent is not like that of the US or Russia. They have a doctrine which does not rule out preemptive strikes, and also the Samson Option which would see Israel use its weapons even if defeated in a conventional war. This makes Israel much more dangerous, not only to its neighbours, but to the world. Also, it may be that Israel cannot even be trusted not to proliferate if the South African documents prove to be real, let alone maintain a sane deployment doctrine. A nuclear-armed Iran is a scary scenario, but maybe Israel's nuclear policies would change for the better if they did get the bomb.

    • 6 8
      So parking nuclear warheads off the coast of iran
      • Chris Linthwaite
      • 30.05.10
      • 14:13

      is not meant to intimidate the Iranian Government and people then?

    • 0 2
      Israeli Subs
      • MB
      • 30.05.10
      • 15:15

      Curious why 25 people would give this analysis 25 "thumbs down"?

    • 17 6
      Your harangue makes no sense
      • Natallie Durson
      • 30.05.10
      • 15:41

      There is hardly a day that goes by that there is not talk in Israel about attacking Iran. If Iran had nukes, this would act as a deterrent to such an unprovoked Israeli attack. Israel is aggressively expanding outside its borders and has killed far more civilians than Iran. Facts speak louder than bias.

    • 7 1
      Momentum Law
      • Wiseman
      • 30.05.10
      • 16:02

      Iran is about 80 times larger than Israel. Israel must think further its action. Iran has a lot of moutains where nuclear attack can be absorbed with less effect. Let's hope that Israel and Iran come back from the brink. Israeli should use their heads of the safety of their children. If a war breakout, Iran has more of chance to survive than Israel just by its sheer size and geography. Be careful Israel, this is not west bank or gaza or lebanon.

  • 21. 151 51
    Desire to incite war?
    • Dino
    • 30.05.10
    • 12:13

    Someone in the Middle East is really craving a new war... and that someone obviously isn't Iran. If some Arab country positioned its own naval vessels of the Israeli coast there would be cries of murder from the Israeli representatives and American congressmen on AIPAC payroll. But since Israel is positioning subs, with nuclear capability no less(what happened to ambiguity?), everything is kosher. And public in Israel wonders why Iran wishes to have a nuke? For this exact reason dear Israelis.

    • 13 19
      Dear Dino
      • ziv
      • 30.05.10
      • 13:52

      ahmadinijad said a lot of times that he want to destroy Israel!!! so what do you want that Israel dont do nothing

    • 11 18
      who desires war?
      • watcher
      • 30.05.10
      • 13:55

      To state that Iran does not crave war is to ignore the facts. Amdinijab (sp) has stated his desire to destroy Isreal many times... it is akin to some one telling a judge that the fight started when he hit me back.

    • 2 9
      Iran's "submarines"
      • joaquim levi
      • 30.05.10
      • 14:22

      Israel is only positioning submarines off Iran's coast now, because Iran has set two armies at Israel's borders, long ago. Hezbollah and Islamic Jiahd are part of the Iranian army.

    • 1 0
      No shit!?
      • Man deVoshkes
      • 30.05.10
      • 16:07

    • 10 1
      .. and the answer is
      • Aryan Answerer
      • 30.05.10
      • 16:22

      The reason Israel has so many enemies is because Israel IS ths enemy. The enemy of the world including the United States.

    • 2 1
      so have israel...
      • SJ
      • 30.05.10
      • 19:37

      dude talking talking is one thing... but putting three sanctions on a country says that you want that countyry to be destroyed.. all the time we hear from the israeli officals that we have topple that regime... why cuz they don't israelis... also wasn't it liebermen who told assad that if you do anything then we will destroy your kingdom...

  • 20. 56 12
    any other submariners around?
    • chris
    • 30.05.10
    • 12:10

    Several world powers have large and capable submarine forces, and it could happen that one or more of them do not want Israel to attack Iran with nuclear missiles. Come to think of it, who in the world wants this to happen? So if I was in an Israeli submarine off the Iranian coast, I would be very worried indeed.

  • 19. 139 50
    More Proof
    • NYC Guy
    • 30.05.10
    • 12:08

    Israel is not a responsible nation to have possession of nuclear arms. It gives them the idea that they may go anywhere they please and intimidate as they please. Iran has the right to equally defend its populace against the threat of Israels nuclear arsenal.

    • 9 19
      intimidation
      • a reader
      • 30.05.10
      • 12:27

      "wipe israel off the map" "little satan" (not be confused with big satan, the US) etc... i believe that this type of iranian intimidation came some time before the current submarine report. If you use intimidation as an indicator of whether a state is a "responsible nation," than surely you are in favor of at a strong response to iranian persistent intimidation. right?

    • 9 14
      More Proof
      • From Brazil
      • 30.05.10
      • 13:31

      Defend like in " We Will eliminate Israel"? Defend like in "Screw history"? Defend like in "Castro with nukes in 62" Talking about rights, what about russian or chinese nuclear subs on your waters just for the sake of equal rights? Nice? If, even though being not, at least in geographical terms an iliterate red neck, have you ever read your own history? Have you ever read about what kept you guys free and safe from the 50´s to the end o the cold war? You know what, you should join forces with the diplomatic service of my country, always ready to defend a scumbag, always ready to defend the trash of the globe. Cheers for Castro, a salute to Hugo Chaves and a red carpet for Ahmadinejad. Just a wild guess, in the Korean situation you take sides with.............

    • 6 20
      Proof of the opposite
      • Brian Cohen
      • 30.05.10
      • 13:50

      Israel has never threatened to attack and destroy Iran. Israel has never equipped Iran's neighbors to attack Iran. This is proof that there are enough simpletons out there who support Iranian aggression and its goal of genocide against Israel. Iran has no right to threaten Israel with annihalation. Get that through your NYC head.

    • 6 8
      Israel is not a responsible nation
      • MB
      • 30.05.10
      • 15:28

      It must be very frustrating for a "NYC Guy" to have to deal with watching the success of Israel for NYC. Israel has had the bomb for about 50 years.The next time Israel calls for the destruction of another Arab country, the next time Israel kills non violent protestors in her streets, the next time an Israeli President steals an election, you can call Israel an irresponsible nation.

    • 4 1
      Lets expand that
      • Aryan Answerer
      • 30.05.10
      • 16:26

      Never mind nuclear weapons, if Israel did not have unlimited access to the unlimited arsenal of the United States they may have leared to compromise and live as respectful neighbors among their skeptical Arab hosts. As it is Israeli answer to dipolmatic error is weapons, killing, threats, and more killing and bombing. No wonder Iran wants the bomb and so does everyone else. Only a matter of time before Israel is truely surrounded.

    • 0 0
      Intimidate ????
      • TOMY
      • 30.05.10
      • 17:58

      Be honest , who intimidates whom ???

    • 1 6
      You don't seem to understand but the Iranian regime doesn't care
      • Genuine Moshe
      • 30.05.10
      • 18:02

      about its populace.

  • 18. 67 22
    nuclear submarines off iranian coast.
    • ralph
    • 30.05.10
    • 12:08

    Even if this statement is true, what does Israel gain by announcing it? A major problem with Israel's PR is that their mouths are too big!

  • 17. 43 18
    Question to murderers
    • Hassan Qatari ALMoazam
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:58

    Are you sure the crews will come back alive?

  • 16. 118 33
    Israel is pushing the world to war ...
    • John, another American
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:58

    ...and expects the US to bail it out. We won't.

  • 15. 9 17
    subs
    • hagop
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:57

    you can use them to deliver special hommous and falafel to akhmadina... cat

  • 14. 43 69
    the game and its cheerleaders
    • a reader
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:53

    i can concede that this perhaps not the wisest move. but its comical to see all the talkbackers' (like talkbacks 1-5) witty criticism when Israel makes a move in this escalation game, but complete silence or even encouragement when there are reports of weapons flowing to Syria and Hezbollah (i especially like the way everyone talks about the illegality of israel but consistently fail to omit the UN resolutions about Hezb weapons). Talkbackers: its ok if you want to pick a side and cheer when they make a move you like, but please, stop saying silly things like " Mmmm..what if Iran positioned naval vesels of the coast of Israel," After all, Iran-Syria-Hezb have been escalating in word and deed for months with no Israel response....

    • 19 14
      Israel has been aggressively expanding settlements for three decades
      • Natallie Durson
      • 30.05.10
      • 12:51

      It is ignorant to imply that there are times when Israel does not respond to "escalations". Israel is provoking the Palestinians, the mideast and the world with expansion outside of Israels borders. Any resistance against this aggression is termed "terrorism". Syria, Lebanon, and the rest don't want to follow the fate of Palestine.

    • 0 0
      Is this stroy true or not
      • Pauline
      • 30.05.10
      • 15:32

      I sense disinformation. Articles such as this may very well be a plant to guage responses from around the world. Articles such as this may cause other Arab states who are going to be close to the action to warn off Tehran eyc/ Either way. If it is true then Iran , Syria and Lebanon beware of teh comnsequences. If its not true, they it mnay provide a deterrent.

  • 13. 75 28
    Middle East
    • harvey
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:50

    So who is the real aggressor in the Middle East?

  • 12. 28 8
    Misleading Headline
    • Mark of Lewiston
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:40

    Nuclear subs are nuclear powered. The German made subs are not nuclear powered. They use batteries underwater or snorkel using diesels. They have to snorkel to recharge batteries. That makes noise. Nuclear powered subs can stay underwater for months and don't run diesel engines for as long as food exists aboard. Iran has subs, too. And they, too are diesel & battery subs.

    • 0 0
      no diesel as maine fuel.
      • christof litz
      • 30.05.10
      • 12:50

      mark, as much as I know these german u-boats are fueled with hydrogen, and their way of moving is told to be very silent. they can stay and operate under water for a long time. Diesel and batteries are only additional. They could be the base for bombing nuclear facilities in Iran, no planes needed. This must never happen, but like this it seems technically possible.

    • 0 0
      MArk is correct
      • April
      • 30.05.10
      • 15:34

      Both countries have diesel electric boats. Israels are quite silent . The iranian versions are not so silent. We live in interesweting times now dont we. wonder what the fish will think when the torpedoes start flying

    • 0 0
      Not nuclear submarines, but nuclear cruise misslies
      • Magnus K
      • 30.05.10
      • 16:47

      Greetings Mark! Tha haaretz article (or rather report from another article) is misleading. The sunday times, as having been reported by the "foaming-at-the-mouth-rabidly", JPost, is of course as you say, diesel and battery driven. It is however assumed by everyone but Israel (remember, they have no nukes =P) , to hold cruise misslies with a nuclear warhead. Probably strategical, and here I thought these subs were supposed to be "Second-Strike" detterence. It makes no sense as far as I can understand to rattle the atomic sabre in front of Iran when one is trying at the same time to hinder and blacklist the Iranian nuclear project. It kindof draws attention to Israel instead. So yeah, to sum it up, no nuclear subs, but nuclear armed warheads on submerged and hidden launchers instead...

  • 11. 37 103
    Back Off, Iran.
    • Jack
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:37

    I love it. This is fantastic news. There is no better deterrant than a massive show of force right on your doorstep. Iran's leaders will be shaking in their turbans in fear. Well done, Israel, show them who is the real force in the ME.

  • 10. 38 11
    Look into history...
    • Frank
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:31

    ... what canon boat politics has brought about. Fools never learn!

  • 9. 22 27
    Ha Ha Ha...I am big boy and I have big toys Ha Ha Ha
    • Indigenous , Nablus Palestine
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:28

    And yes we "Palestinians" do not have big toys...and we do not want toys...but seriously...Ha Ha Ha

  • 8. 93 24
    Great move, create a provocation
    • RW
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:28

    that allows Iran to justify its need for nuclear weapons by parking Israeli nuclear weapons on Iran's doorstep. Is there a stupidity epidemic currently in Israel?

  • 7. 78 25
    Far from your borders
    • NYC Guy
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:27

    When doesnt Israel remain behind its own borders? You are poking the snake with a short stick and you are going to get bit. Dont cry when you do. No one will listen. Israel has no business in that area.

  • 6. 69 23
    And if the Iranians
    • John the American
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:25

    position their submarines off the coast of Israel will Israel see that as a provocation? Iran could under International Law attack the subs as a pre-emptive act citing a clear and present danger to Iran.

    • 0 0
      MADD
      • Tommy Canada
      • 30.05.10
      • 18:38

      This was and is a common practice of both the superpowers during the Cold War,seems to have worked we are still around to talk about it .U.S.A. and Russia called it Mutually Assured Destruction,even the Mullahs In Iran can understand this as their primitive anti-submarine detection will not solve the German Dolphins.

  • 5. 29 4
    And the eye-popping irony....
    • American Citizen
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:25

    Israel has German-made subs equipped with nukes 60-odd years after WWII. At that rate, Hamas and Likud could be best pals in 50 years time. Who knows...it's the Middle East, where miracles happen!

  • 4. 192 51
    Mmmm..what if Iran positioned naval vesels of the coast of Israel?
    • CJ
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:19

    One rule for Israel, another for everyone else?

  • 3. 156 37
    nuclear missiles rattling
    • max32
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:19

    Wise move. In the midst of the nuclear crisis with Iran you choose to rattle with the nuclear cruise missiles by their coast. This is the argument why Iran should get the weapon.

    • 13 16
      Iranian "submarines": Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad
      • joaquim levi
      • 30.05.10
      • 14:11

      Iran set Islamic Jiahd and Hezbollah on Israel's borders. I think this is a wise Israel's move.

    • 10 10
      Max 32
      • Sabra
      • 30.05.10
      • 15:43

      ISrael if indeed it has sent its subs to irans coast, would not be tehre if Iran had not repeatedly theatened ISrael, supplied Syria and Hizbullah with thousands and thousands of missiles. ISraels actions are a direct consequence of irans actions. iran has clearly chose provocation over peace, and destruction over building. Now let Iran sit under the shade of the nuclear cloud that may change teh face of tehran if iran were stupoid enougn to have its proxies start a war.

    • 4 12
      Facts
      • MB
      • 30.05.10
      • 15:49

      Again, you need to deal with the facts. Israel has no issue with Iran. Iran is threatening the survival of Israel for no reason other than pure hatred for a strong,democratic, Jewish state thriving in the Middle East.

    • 0 0
      Smart readers
      • Mike
      • 30.05.10
      • 18:10

      I am so surprised how smart this papers readers are good job!!!!!

  • 2. 82 14
    Silly timing and this report is old news.
    • American Citizen
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:15

    The world (189 countries) knows Israel has nukes + subs. Even babies can do that math.

    • 5 10
      189
      • joaquim levi
      • 30.05.10
      • 14:10

      The 189 countries: Half o them are non-democratic. 57 call themselves Islamic and of those only Turkey is a democracy, but not enough to join the EU. Other non-Islamic non-democratic nations: Cuba, North Korea, Venezuela, etc. The other half, the 90 or so: 40 (coalition forces) are busy attacking Muslim Afghanistan and Iraq. So, Israel shoudn't be too worried about this world's opinion.

  • 1. 156 100
    Israel's nuclear submarines.
    • Maureen Ann
    • 30.05.10
    • 11:15

    Hypocritical warmongers!

    • 84 124
      You are right Iran certainly are warmongers
      • Zelkha
      • 30.05.10
      • 11:49

      Not a day goes by without Iran threatening Israel.

    • 25 26
      iran
      • razorday
      • 30.05.10
      • 13:13

      can you please tell me of a single instance of iran threatening israel,eg."wipe israel off the map".reference sources.....please show me where these stories come from.

    • 7 18
      It's for the local audience
      • Ab
      • 30.05.10
      • 19:03

      Ahmadinejad just shouts his mouth off about Israel to gain the popular vote. It's the same as Abdel Gamal Nasser shouting his mouth off to the Arab world about destroying Israel. Israel of course, then uses this as a pretext for a first strike claiming Egypt (in 1967) and Iran (in 2010) is an existential threat. If you look at all the wars (apart from 1973) since Israel's creation, Israel started every one of them.