Netanyahu tells Israeli public: No guarantee peace talks will succeed

What Netanyahu asks from Palestinians concerning the recognition of Israel as a state for Jewish people is logic under one condition which is the borders of Israel to be according the UN resoliotion 181 and accepting and implimenting all other UN resolutions

If you nothing you can forget "talking" because we won't be here !

The reason Netanyahu demands it is that he can then say:The Palestinian refugees cannot return to the Jewish state. But the refugee problem has to be discussed as part of the deal, not as a "trick". For Abbas to recognize Israel as the homeland for the Jews is to demand from him some determination about history. What Abbas knows as a historical fact is that Israel was part of the homeland of the Palestinian people (as they are defined today). The Jewish claim is debated by historians (although I, and most Jews, believe it as a certainty). If Abbas is willing to decide historical claims, he might say: Israel and Palestine together are the homeland for both the Jewish people and the Palestinian people. (Indeed, Judea and Samaria are the homeland of the Jews more than Israel proper). But such a historical determination by Abbas will be of no use to Netanyahu. I think Yahoo should reconsider his pointless demand.

The United States are a Christian Nation; England is a Christian Nation; Portugal, Spain, Greece, France (although they like to kid themselves) are Christian Nations and yet people from all religious backgrounds live and born there and are loyal to their nations. Muslim States also exist. So, why is it so strange to recognise a Jewish State and live there and be loyal to it even if not Jewish? The double standard should make us all suspicious...

Israel needs to listen to their God and stop listening to everyone else, even America, the country that I love so much, because our leaders are leading you astray. God said over two thousand years ago that He would gather you together again and make a nation in one day and He did as He promised. He will defend you. Look at the miracles He has done in defending Israel in every war since. Will he not do it again?

Abbas would presumabky have no issue signing, after all what is it to him what Israel wishes to call itself. However Israel might want to give this some thought as in the West, and amongst young liberal Jews in the US in particular, the perception that Israel is taking the likes of Iran and Egypt as model for a modern state might not go over so will.

The success of the so-called peace talks can only be measured by whether they manage to keep alive the reclamation of the Judea and Samaria by Israel...and possibly, by how soon the O**** adminstration gives up on the process.

Someone is standing next to you. You have taken their property. They tweak your nose. You push them 20 yards to the left and stand next to them. they can still reach over and tweak your nose. ... No matter how far you push them, if you are to stand next to them as entities must, you are no further away.

This is a msg for both internal and external consumption. He is lowering expectations because he has no plans for peace. The Israelis will not allow a Palestinian state until all the "good" land has been stolen, then they will impose birders and leave the bones for the palestinian people. Palestinians and Arabs know this which is why this "peace process" will continue to be a process that never lead to peace.

"I say this is an attempt, because it is not certain that it will succeed. Certainly there are many obstacles, many skeptics and many reasons to doubt, but we must try to reach peace," Netanyahu said.

This is the manner the headline of Haaretz over this article should have been frased as with the attitude palestinian arabs display no other outcome shall ever be possible.

What about the many countries calling themselves The Islamic Republic of ........??????? Are any of you going to accuse these countries of racism as quickly as you do Israel? I would like to at least see the Palestinians recognize Israel's right to exist internally i.e. change all their maps to not show all of Israel as Palestinian territory. They may tell the world one thing but internally in Arabic it's a completely different story.

If they don't suceed is because Netanyahu does not want them to suceed.

This needs to be spelled out. On the surface it appears meaningless, hence Abbas' comment "Israel can call itself what it likes...", so consequently it must essentially be code for some pertinent issue, but what? Clearly a Palestinian cannot accede any decisions pertaining to Israel's Arab minority, so perhaps it has something to do with Palestinians and rigth of return. That seem at least plausible and perhaps it is an attempt to reach peace with no accommodation for refugees since it is a given that no peace terms would include return to the "Jewish" state. In any case whatever the issue it clearly need be spelled out as at this point it appears purely symbolic and negative in the sense that it appears superficially to be a means to avoid serious negotiations.

To be quiet impartial, israels demands for security and recognition as a jewish state are quiet fair. I hope that palestinian brothers will understand that israel has come a long way forward and is definitely extending its hand of longterm friendship. There is no reason why muslims should doubt israeli intentions for peace. All the more ALLAH has already recognized the state of israel in chapter 5: verses 20-21. We should not give into mischeif makers to disrup t the peace talks. People with good intentions should join hands and work together. All that is required for evil to prevail, is goodness to remain silent.

You can say he's 'full of it' if you want, but Netanyahu has been reasonable and speaking of flexibility since these talks came into being. Abbas on the other hand has been nothing if rigid and demanding. He is selling the Arabs the same false bill of goods they have been receiving from the surrounding leaders for 60 years: That they can remain inflexible and Israel will serve itself up on a silver platter. Negotiations imply that there is give and take and no one walks away completely satisfied. Try telling that to the Arabs. nothing less that 100% will satisfy them? Why bother talking.

This is the truth , the whole truth , and nothing but a truth .

Everybody knows that there will never be peace in middleeast....

Whether or not we are a Jewish state will not be decided by some Arab from Ramallah. It will be decided by whether or not our actions, morals, and relationship to G-d are Jewish or not. What, does Bibi think Abbas is some kind of reform rabbi or something?

Which is exactly the way Netanyahu has planned it.

I’m all for Palestinians agreeing to live peacefully with Israel, but I believe it is unreasonable to demand they “recognize Israel.” I cannot imagine, even today in the United States, an American Indian saying the US had a right to take their land and create living space for them on reservations. If they said it, they would be lying. Still, Native Americans have made peace with us. Palestinians are getting a different deal. Twenty-two percent of the heartland of the region. It’s not a reservation. But In their hearts, Palestinians will never believe Israel has a “right to exist as a Jewish state.” If they are forced to say it as a condition for peace, it will make no difference. Abbas even referred to the “Nakba of 1948” at his opening remarks with Netanyahu and Obama. Israel is the Palestinians “catastrophe.” The main thing is we agree to stop fighting and learn to live together.

Does this include the continued prohibition of citizenship to Palestinians married to Israelis? The constitution is sure to be racist...

Recognition of Israel as a Jewish state is an all -important requirement to achieve a peace agreement.Palestinian spokesmen are already rejecting this.So Palestinians also should bear the burden of blame if talks fail.

He is the only man in the world that can determine whether they succeed or fail.

Other than some blather about their desire for peace, what have we heard from this government? Well, the messages have ben pessimistic from all sides and for different reasons. And they have been contradictory as we saw only yesterday in statements from Peres and the FM. Israel is laying out two condistions that will mean no solution can be reached. Of course security is a major concern and the palestinians are fully aware of that. Netanyahu, however, means something else when he speaks of "security". He does not mean negoatiated and agreed upon safeguards. He means dictates that are to be imposed and accepted by all parties. As for recognition of Israel as a "Jewish" state, you can see that this qualifier came into the game at a very late stage. It has not been a part of the zionist demands for mutual recognition. It is a carefully calculated impediment because these right wing fanatics know that it is not something the palestinians can agre to nor should they. Israel is to be recognised as a sovereign state for its citizens. Period. This is tha language of diplomacy, not religious claptrap. Then there are the settllements and the 09-26 deadline. You can observe that the stipulations held up by the palestinians are all in agreement with previous agreements and international law. Israel has no support in the inernational community for their positions and yet...? Hoew will the international community react to this intransigence? By continuing to give this government in violation yet more carte blanche?

Does it formally make non-Jewish Israelis second class citizens? Have other countries, such as UK, France, U.S, Egypt, Jordon. recognized Israel as a Jewish State? Why is it so important that unless the Pals agree, Israel will not agree to peace? Why has Israel agreed to peace with the US, if the US has not recognized Israel as a Jewish State?

They also have to learn to live without killing Jews.This may be a hard habit to break as they have been doing it in Palestine for centuries. No Zionist excuse was needed.

The only conceivable reason to insist that Israel be recognised as a Jewish state is to make quite sure that the talks won't succeed. It would be entertaining if Abbas came back with "which sort of Jewish? Reform, Orthodox, or Haredi?" As Bibi knows, Israeli Palestinians want "a state for all its citizens", and the "Jewish state" is in opposition to that: it's an excuse to oppress and discriminate against them. Just to show good will, he could launch the process by accepting Germany as an Aryan State.

Perhaps he has never read any of the recognitions. They all say, without except, the "State of Israel". So where does the smirker get this illogical and un-necessary demand from? It has no legal basis and no precedent.

53% of Israelis support an extension of the settlement freeze and Netanyahu goes on record as saying that there is no guarantees that the peace talks will succeed. Almost as if he is ensuring Israeli voters hopes don't get to high as he causes the collapse of the peace talks by not extending the freeze. Which the majority of Israelis want. When all he has to do is get rid of Shas and Liebermans hooligans and Livni would join the government allowing his name to go down in History as the person who ended the 40 year war.

It can succeed if you and Abbas wants too. Give the land back which was taken pre 1967 and everything will be fine.

What does this mean recognition as a Jewish State? I thought Israel's justification for holding land was based on security concerns? Introducing the question of 'Jewish State' is irrelevant, Jews can't even agree who is a Jew! What is the rationale? this is not even explained by Netanyahu.

there 's more to it bibi and his buddies have something up their sleaves