Netanyahu: Israel ready to go a long way for peace

Israel’s insistence that it must have guaranteed security before peace is a political ploy. You make peace in order to have security. If you get the security you demand before peace, you don’t need peace. (Dictionary definition of ploy: a procedure used to achieve a particular result. In Israel’s case the particular result is keeping occupied Arab land). -- Stolen from http://www.alanhart.net/a-moment-of-reckoning-but-for-whom/#more-1263

Despite the far-reaching declarations about the aspiration to secure peace within a year, the real objective appears to be an effort to put the crisis in order in order to prevent further deterioration. Obama cannot afford to clash with his Jewish voters on the eve of the Congress elections; however, as noted, the Middle East is not his top priority at this time regardless. Currently, the president is much more concerned about allaying the growing anger of America’s jobless. As his spokesperson Robert Gibbs hesitated and umm and ummed groping for answers Obama clearly is NOT concentrating on domesitc problem - no jobs for Americans.. so he needs to meddle with the Mid East it seems easier hmm Obama has to demand that the Muslim-Arab world, local and regional, get out of the way the most important obstacle to peace: Its categorical refusal to accept Israel's RIGHT to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people. A simple statement in Arabic, Hebrew and English recognizing Israel's legitimacy as the national home of the Jewish people, by right, will enable Obama to solve 97.2% of the Muslim-Arab world's conflict with the nation-state of the Jewish people, Israel. The rest will be so much easier!!! But Obama appears for the moment to try to appease the Muslim-Arab world instead of demanding of it the obvious, without which no accommodation of peaceful coexistence between Arab and Jew, between the Muslim-Arab world and the nation-state of the Jewish people, Israel, is likely.

This problem will only be solved by imposing a peace treaty by America. There is something wrong there and the current administration is getting to recognize it. It is never too late to disengage from full unquestionable support to Israel.

This charade has nothing to do with PA / Israel peace. It has to do with plans to thwart Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran. Everyone knows they cannot come up with a solution that would be accepted by both parties.

No israel, No Palestine. One State Solution is the best for all. One Man, One Vote, Equality for all inhabitants. Equal Pay for Equal Work, Equal Water Rights. No Apartheid, No Segregation...A Very True Secular Democrac Let us call it: “State of Holy Land”.

This all sounds like blah blah blah. I heard enough of it already , please show some action , start , do something constructive . Lights camera and Action.

God Protect Everybody!

When, when will they ever learn that if they truly wish to coexist peacefully with the Jewish people and its nation-state of Israel - or do they? - they must accept Israel right to be instead of categorically refuse to accept its legitimacy as the nation-state of the Jewish people.

Netnayahu ran for elections on a policy of "no Palestinian state" (only autonomy), and he was not ready to expose himself as a fraud right after the elections and announce that he actually accepts a Palestinian state. That took him 4 months to do (in a speech in June 2009). As of now, Netanyahu refrained from taking a vote in the government about this change in policy, nor in Likud. Will Netanyahu dare to go all the way for peace and then have to "face the music" of the hardliners? I hope so, but one wouldn't know until the very end. Barak is braver, and also needs peace more because otherwise his party will pull out of the coalition and he will lose his job. But even Barak got cold feet in Shepherdstown when he was to complete the negotiations of peace with Syria. Let us hope for the best but be prepared for the worst.

When you come right down to it both sides, the Palestinian Arabs and the Jews are victims here in this Middle East mess. In the USA, (and other places whose laws are derived from the English), when the government takes someone`s property pursuant to the Doctrine of Eminent Domain the owner receives "just compensation". It`s in the 5th Amendment of our Constitution. That equitable Doctrine should be used as a template for resolving the Middle East Dilemma. The United Nations caused the Middle East problem in 1948 when it created Israel by taking property from Palestinians and gave it to Jews, who had been persecuted by Germans, as a haven and a homeland without compensating the Palestinians for their losses. The unintended consequence of the UN's largesse to the Jews was to cause justifiable resentment among the Palestinian Arabs, many of whom were relegated to refugee camps. The Israeli argument that Arabs were encouraged by their leaders to leave their homes thereby forfeiting those homes, pending victory over the Jews, is nonsensical. People leave their homes all the time. Sometimes for extended periods. The homes still belong to the rightful owners. The Jews are victims too. Since the creation of the state by the UN, Israel has not had a day of peace. Clearly this injustice is a festering sore that oozes discord to this day. Do you know what you get when you take someone's property for no compensation? 60 years of war! The UN created the problem. They should fix it. The borders need to be adjusted to something reasonable and the UN needs set up a “compensation commission” where Palestinians and others who suffered losses can come forward, present their claims and get compensated in exchange for a Release of Claims. This seems fair. As far as the so-called settlers go, if they legally acquired their property in the West Bank and paid for it they should be allowed to stay. They will be Palestinian Jews. Israel has Arabs. Palestine will have Jews. It's the same thing.

THAT will bring Peace. Palestinian Jews, Israeli Arabs.....who cares? Peace, Peace, Peace....on equal footing. Salaam/Shalom

Netanyahu impressed me. Abbas mailed it in.

But apparently not to go as far as to stop the settlers who are as out of control as any Hamas operative.

Palestinians constantly claim that their land was stolen. That accusation is a monstrous injustice to Israel. inreality The Pals were subsisting on worthless infertile land riddled with mosquyitos and illnesses, as falahs they were scratching the soil for some Turkish overlord, they were serfs to the feudal Ottoman system. They never owned any land and had no deeds to it. The ottomans were delighted to sell the land to The Jewsand so the Pas were dispossessed, by the rulers. The Pals then followed their leader the Mufti who had Nazi sympathies and started killing the very people that elevated The Pals from serfs to free men. Today the Pals have their enclave in the WB and constantly make war on Israel

... we have yet to see a "concession", painful or otherwise, by the settlers...

No U.S.-enforced peace deal - Netanyahu smiling, Abbas resigned and depressed, and Obama frustrated. In no other conflict would experienced negotiators, like many of the officials in the U.S. Administration, suggest that one side with zero power could successfully negotiate with the side that has all the power and expect to come up with a viable solution. What short-term incentives or costs, which is what politicians and publics tend to think in terms of, would lead Israel to support sharing Jerusalem, giving up West Bank settlements, ending the siege on Gaza, etc.? What power can Abbas possibly exert on his Israeli counterparts so that they make such decisions? In the absence of a forceful U.S. President, the ingredients are simply not there.

US jews like the idea of Obama trying to negotiate a solution but they don't like the idea of a bad deal being imposed on Israel. Obama should remember that right now around 66% of US jews like him if he upsets them it could cost him alot of votes in 2012.