'Mideast peace process poses a strategic threat to Iran'
Minority Affairs Minister Avishay Braverman: Cancellation of Iran FM's visit to Cairo is proof of the importance of the peace process.
By Barak Ravid and The Associated Press Tags: Israel newsMinister of Minority Affairs Professor Avishay Braverman said Saturday that the recently relaunched peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians posed "a strategic threat to Iran."
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Minority Affairs Minister Avishay Braverman |
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Speaking at the Shabbat Tarbut event in Haifa, the minister said that "the cancellation of a visit by the Iranian foreign minister to Egypt and the historical events that have occurred in Tehran since the start of peace talks are proof that progress in the talks will lead to an alliance between Israel and the moderate Arab states versus the axis of evil of Iran-Hamas-Hezbollah."
Braverman was referring to Egypt's cancellation Friday of a meeting that was to include Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki over remarks he had made earlier, accusing of Arab leaders of betrayal for cooperating with the U.S.-sponsored peace talks.
Mottaki was quoted in the Iranian media on Tuesday as saying that the Arab leaders meeting in Washington in order to launch the renewal of peace talks with Israel are traitors to their respective peoples. Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and Jordanian King Abdullah II both attended the official launch of the direct talks in Washington.
Hassan Nasrallah, Secretary General of the Lebanese militia Hezbollah, also criticized the negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians. In a speech he gave on Friday in honor of pro-Palestinian "Jerusalem Day," Nasrallah said that "these negotiations were born and have died."
Nasrallah added, "Palestine from the river to the sea is the property of the Palestinian people, the Arabs and the Muslims, and no person has the right to give any of it away, not a grain of sand or a drop of water."
Nasrallah blessed the Hamas for the attacks it carried out this past week and said, "This is the message, and this is the way to liberate Jerusalem and Palestine. Hamas and other resistance fighters of their kind should hear voices of support from the entire Arab and Muslim world."
Sources close to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas said that by the end of the first round of talks between Israel and the PA in Washington, the mood of the Palestinian delegation had turned around 180 degrees.
The London-based newspaper Al-Hayat announced Saturday morning that the Palestinian delegation had expressed satisfaction with the Americans' intention to include all of the core issues in the peace agreement that is supposed to be finalized before the end of 2011.
Arab League chief Amr Moussa also expressed cautious optimism on Friday that the current round of talks between Israel and the Palestinians will be the final round. According to Moussa, participating in an economic conference in Italy, the Arab world is read for comprehensive peace with Israel in exchange for withdrawal to the 1967 borders, including in East Jerusalem.
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"Barak: Israel unlikely to extend current settlement freeze" Translation: "Israel to side with Hamas in effort to destroy peace talks." The PA cracked down hard on Hamas for the outrageous murders of four Settlers. Israel,, Barak is telling us, will cave in to the Settlers who are determined to destroy the peace talks.
Palestinians waited until the end of the freeze to start up talks. Looks like they were looking to frame Israel for their failure. Saying they won't continue unless the freeze was extending knowing Israel wouldn't and the world would condemn Israel for it. Palestinians are the kings of coniving PR
Baruch HaShem: I hope the peace talks help cripple Ahmadinejad and his minions once and for all. The PA is showing signs of wanting peace. Ahmadinejad wants apocalypse. I only wish the US and Israel assembled a coalition of the willing to defang Ahmadinejad and mullahs to eliminate their nuclear aspirations.
Because if the security situation in Israel deteriorates so will support for the peace process. I hope that some serious carrots are being offered to Hamas via back channels. And I hope the next Chief of Staff is competent to protect the North. In addition to pressure on Israel, there needs to be pressure on Lebanon and the UN troops in Southern Lebanon to do their job and stop Hizbollah re-arming.
Who knows, Israel might be forced to do some concessions. This is a threat of course, because Israel seems to want all of Palestine even though it has no right at all to any of the occupied territories including East Jerusalem.
The peace, when it comes, will be negotiated between Palestinians and Israelis, the real protagonists. Then the warmongers amongst the Lebanese and the Iranians can find something else to fume over.
Iran need not worry. This "peace process" will, once again be sound and noise signifying nothing.
As it stands the Moderates have lost all credibility and will not be in a position to capitalize on anything less that Israel total withdrawal. The fact that the Saudis are not on board speaks volumes. King Abdullah is regaining stature and is in a strong position having rebuffed Clinton and Obama overtures about normalization with Israel. Until Israel comply with ALL provisos FM Al Faisal is on the record that no step by step incrementation to peace will do. So Iran afford to can play the waiting game it has little to loose.
Moderate Arab states! The Us client states that are already Israels allies and Iran is afraid of them! Why should Iran be afraid of peace? Even if if Iran is afaraid of a potential peace, there is going to be no peace - only a "peace process". Enedless talks about talks, statement of principles and mediations to draft a shelved agreement and so forth while the settlements and the wall continue apace! Iran has all the reason to feel time is on its side. Netanyahu and the Israel establishment will ensure that.
This "Axis of Evil" did not exist until Israel came into being and began stealing lands that did not belong to it and systematically began killing the owners of the land. Perhaps this "Axis of Evil" is actually just one evil...Israel.
Make peace for isrealis and palestinians. Level Iran. President Momma Imanutt of Iran is a kook.
Irrational genes are playing tricks on his mind
BS. The peace does not pose any threat for Iran because Iran's real goal is not Israel and the iranians do not care about the palestinians, Iran's goal is to get control of its immediate neighborhood and of 65% of the world's oil reserve. Enough diversion. This could make them even more dangerous.
Sorry forget my commentary. It was on the wrong article. Thanks.
Where is the problem? To curse is the expression of an archaic mentality. The primitives believed in its efficiency. Rabbis and imams both share this same archaic mentality. I think it is better to curse the enemy than to kill him, Instead of inflicting him a physical wound you curse him.
The Israeli right cannot see this. Israel will squander once again this opportunity by trying to short change the palestinians out of a reasonable peace deal. Palestinians (in general) have come a long way from their initial demands and have recognized Israel since1993. Offer the Palestinians the full 67 borders with east Jerusalem and withhold the right of return for Palestinians. That is the best deal Israel can make that Palestinians will honor. Anything short of this will be rejected and will play directly into the hands of the militant camp (Iran, Syria, Lebanon). Israel of course cannot see this and will never miss an occasion to miss an occasion for real peace.
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im from Iran and yould like to say : there wouldn't be peace i middle east until israel is in this region . there wouldn't be peace until you (israelis) are alive . and there wouldn't be peace until we have blood in our vessls . select it for publication if .........
Can someone make sense of this?
This is a hypothetical title because peace will never be achieved with Zionists running both Israel and the US. Therefore, the so call peace process theater has no effect on Iran what so ever.
I agree with Minister Braverman in his assessment. I am glad my good friend has spoken out. There is nothing stronger than a peace agreement, to curb the Iranian threat and influence in the Middle East. The Iranians know it full well. They have been adamantly against reconciliation, stoking the fire and encouraging descent. That is true, they even went as far as inciting against peace partners, like Egypt and Jordan. The Iranian threat is not only an issue for Israel to deal with , but rather for the entire region. The answer is we do everything we can to arrive at a settlement.
Avishay Braverman is a fraud. Why did he put Syria in the axis of evil. Earth to Braverman, who do you think is giving Hizbollah weapons. Where do you think Hamas and Islamic Jihad's headquarters are? Ofcourse Braverman wants to appease Syria and give away the Jewish Golan
Underlying the current peace process--may it succeed if it is a just peace--is an assumption that Sunni Muslims would welcome an attack on Iran after some concessions are given to the Sunni Palestinians. May be the assumption is correct. More likely it is not. Pakistan has a large Sunni majority population--who are often more than 'devout' Muslims. Many even extremists. However, I can say with almost certainty that Pakistan will be up in flames should mass destructions happen in Iran and millions of refugees cross into Pakistan with tales of misery. That has the potential of a regional war. Can't say what the Turks would do if they see Iran being ruined. Also to be noted that Hasan Nasrallah and A'Jad--both Shia, by the way--have seen mass approval in the Sunni 'Arab Street'. In fact, during the Hizbollah-Israel war of 2006, even Al-Qaida--which represents a fanatical version of Sunni Islam--started to threaten to intervene on Lebanon's behalf. So...who knows for sure what will the reaction of the 'larger' Muslim world if Iran gets destroyed?But, just like the various flavors of Christianity managed to often close ranks during various Crusades and subsequent wars against Muslims, it is quite likely that the reliance upon the Shia-Sunni divide to execute a 'successful' war is very problematic. No one is going to win a war of carpet bombings, bunker busters, rains of missiles, daisy cutters. No one except a few dozens war-profiteers and their few thousands employees. It is best not to fall into another trap. We have seen what the fake WMD claims have done to the world and America. Not even Israel has gained much long term by the Iraq war. So...lets resist the call to march for another war. Let's shout louder than the drum beats of war. Let's not be trapped by one concession leading to a bigger problem of a regional war. Let's nip in the bud.
Let's assume that Netanyahu and Abbas make a peace agreement. The fact that Hamas was not involved in the peace talks will mean that Hamas will not hold to Abbas's agreement. In fact, Hamas is likely to make more attacks than ever as a result of the peace agreement. Israel will be forced to retaliate, but Israeli retaliation usually involves killing Palestinian civilians, especially when it is done on a large scale. If Israel kills Palestinian civilians, the peace argeement will be strained and will ultimately fall apart, since Hamas will keep attacking until it does fall apart. By keeping Hamas out of the talks, Israel can get full credit for making an historic peace agreement and yet there will be no peace and expansion can continue. These peace talks are designed to fail. It would be a major surprise if they didn't fail before their conclusion, but if they are successful, ultimate failure is guaranteed.
Let me see if I get your "reasoning" There is a peace deal and the Palestinians are on their way to freedom and independence. The Israeli's kill some civilians in Gaza and as a result the Palestinians decide to.. forgo their freedom and their state in order to... spite Israel. Yeah that makes alot of sense. Actually what will happen is that Hamas will lose support and be isolated and Israel will have a free hand, along with Egypt to deal with them.
Wait, maybe they do. And just don't care. They want war with Iran just like they wanted war with Iraq. They shamelessly used 9/11 to get their war with Iraq, and they'll shamelessly use anything to get their war with Iran. They know what's best for Israel, even if the Israelis don't.
When the U.S. invade Iraq, the unleashed the Shiite deluge that Saddam and his cronies were keeping at bay. Now, Iran has formed an axis of Shiaism that includes Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon. Israel and the Sunnis must unite to fight this common enemy. Perhaps the U.S. invasion did do something good and bring Israel and its neighbors closer.
End of story
HOW MANY FAMILIES CRY BLOOD TODAY BECAUSE OF IRAN ? how many families cry blood today because of america ( AND ISRAEL ) ? which one look for others blood ?................................................................................................. I BELIEVE IRAN IS MUCH INNOCENT THAN THE BOTH 1000 TIMES !................................................................you know I am only saying the truth.
yeah destroy the shia iran(ironic the "eternal" past sassanid "jewish"-friendly empire reminds me of irans situation).....and then get ready in israel to face sunni tornado.Have in mind that even to that day,shias face severe persecution and everyday massacres in Pakistan-Afganistan,the subvertion and attrition of yemeni-afgani-saudi gov., the subtle treatment in turkey and the tenuous situation in iraq/lebannon.In few words,Israels best friend is Iran,but so many mismandgements over the last 20 years brought the oppposite.
Won't sombody please enlighten me. I am sick of reading and hearing that Obama gave his OK. I shake my head but nothing happens. Does the world evolve around the useless character Obama. If I can read correct English, it appears that he has the last say... the last ok in everything. HELP ME!
He is the president of the US and US is the main financial donor of Israel. It does have the right to at least express its opinion on what Israel should do with the money it gives it. The tensions in the regions are not in the long-term interest of the United States. It wants to see relations normalize and will pressure Israel and Palestinians to do so.
Moragh, you definitely need help. The presidency of USA has a lot of international clout. Would you have asked the same question about Bush? The world is rushing past bigots.
Wake up! It is not Man, it is the President of the USA..ANY President!!
Thanks for sharing. I have no doubt that when you shake your head, nothing happens. Fill in your own joke. The last two words of your post are most revealing. You obviously need help. Have a nice day
Somebody gets it. Peace is better for Israel and bad for Iran and Hamas.
First iran was going tio wipe out Israel because it occupies gaza...not anymore. then it was going to wipe out israel because it was stuill an occupier. Well it looks like that is a deal about to hapopoen. So iran is loosing pretext to wipem ISrael off teh map for. Hizbullah ism of course looking for more pretext to still make war on ISrael. Now that the leb borders are being redrawn. In short they do not want peace but war. Well perhaps this may still happen but Iran and Hizbullah and Syria will find teh checeque they have to cash afterwards to be quite steep
BTW the regime in Jerusalem is not Israel. It's a government illegally in territories not Sovereign to Israel...
If this peace process empowers Obama, is gonna be very bad for democracy
don't bet on this kind of friend
Please folks, there will never be peace as there are many players which are not involved like Syria, Iran, Lebanon, many Palestinians factions, many other arab countries, the majority Arabs populations, so what peace Abbas and Bibi want? Micky mouse peace!
please add to your list the many Israeli factions that some believe Palestine/Israel is their promise land and that all Palestinians should vanish from the earth
Iran's FM gives himself a free hand to accuse `arab leaders` of treason for supporting negotiations to pave the way for a stable Middle East in which its peoples can enjoy prosperity and peace. He should tell us what his regime has done for the well-being of the peoples of the Middle East except conspiracy and division..
Opposition to peace is being focused up enemies of the state. In reality Iran and Hezbollah are entirely powerless to effect the outcome of peace talks but that's hardly the point. The issue is laying the groundwork for internal support. Should the right-wing coalition beging to act to kill the talks then they will be labeled anit-peace and seen as having common interest with official enemies. This is the problem facing the settlers (outside to be annexed large settlement blocs)... they will soon be seen as odd Hamas bedfellows; besides it's not as if the far flung ideological/fanatical "Greater Israel" settler movement have much support in Israel proper anyway.
is that it is confidence building for the talks, selling the future peace to the Israeli public. Once Israelis and West Bank Palestinians (Gaza is clearly out in the cold) begin to believe the peace is coming public opinion will swing dramatically positive for the peace. Generations on both sides have become immune to an any hopes for talks and that has resulted in extreme apathy. What is also significant is the article that doesn't appear ... the atricle from the Lieberman's et al denouning talks and threating to bring down the government. This is because they know that should they do so they that would be entirely out of the picture (out of power) in no time flat... an election might not even be necessary!
The Palestinians will be really believable to us Israelis when they tune down their Charter ya know what I mean??
Peace is in everyone's collective best interest. Politicians and political parties have other interests to consider. The article talks of peace as a strategic threat to Iran but gives no details on how it is. Of course the threat to Israel and the PA is that any peace deal is not recognized by the people on the street. Then the whole this is counter-productive.
The United States, the EU, the Arabs, and just about everyone has been alluding to this for how long now? And not just Iran - it's a setback for ALL extremist elements who use it to fuel their agenda.
So it's easy for the Islamic Republic to deride Mubarak and Hussein for attending the peace talks, as Iran's swollen ego has yet to punctured by the IDF. That will change immediately however when Iran commands Hezbollah to unleash its long range and more deadly arsenal on Israeli cities and infrastructure in a future conflict.
He writes like Lavi...
yes but iran was in an 8 year war with iraq and sufferd more than israel could give them now
that if Hezbollah or Hamas or Syria (not likely) were to attack Israel,Israel should go all out & smash Iran's head to smithereens, The Advantage the whole world knows before hand,so there cannot be any silly blame game on Israel. The disadvantage,They are being pre-warned & can give them time to prepare. But weighing the two alternatives,it's better to hit them first & hard.
Iran suffered far worse during the 8 year war following the Iraqi invasion in 1980 than Israel has ever inflicted upon any adversary. A war little known in the 'west' (which heavily backed Iraq). The difference is not that Egypt and Jordan suffered at the hands of Israel no matter what the arrogance of some wishes to believe. The difference is that Egypt and Jordan have made peace with Israel, which is their great offense to the Ayatollahs.
Read the actual peace agreements. time and again it says Israel withdraws BEFORE
One can not ignore 1.5 Million Palestinian living in Gaza Ghetto.
Is this the Hamas that we must negotiate with. Tony the moron spouts again. "Palestine from the sea to the river is the property of the Palestinian nation, of the Arab and the Muslim, and no one has the right to give up on that land, not even a drop of its water," Zahar said.
And how would you get Hamas to the negotiating table ?
Hamas will collaps from within....
We're ignoring a terrorist organization that wants to kill us all and destroy the peace process, as you've seen with the latest murders.
hamas must be destroyed if we want any success in this negotiation. hamas is not representative of 1.5 million palestinians living in Gaza. If these guys had a choice, hamas would be out.
Five years ago Hamas publicly stated it would accept any deal Abbas negotiated if the Palestinians endorsed it via referendum. The refusal of israel to seriously negotiate during the intervening years has given heart to the war wing of Hamas, which now hopes that a failure by Abbas will bring them control in the West Bank. If Abbas succeeds, Hamas will end up with only Gaza and that will stand as an example of refusing peace while Palestine prospers from peace. Hamas is betting on Netanyahu crushing their opposition and delivering all power to them. If Abbas succeeds, then Hamas is left out in it's Gaza Ghetto, trying to explain why continued strife and poverty are more just than peace and prosperity.
Hamas refuses to make peace! Hamas wants it all - from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. No peace with Israel no Jews in this region!! Say, what solution do your see to this Problem?
Iran which didnt have any war for last few decades is a war loving entity?? And the US/Israel nexus which has it on a daily basis are peace loving. Aint you bored of this foolish zionist propaganda.??
Iran doesn't need war. It gets all the blood it wants by stoning women, hanging homosexuals, and executing children.
A show to get PR cover for the attack on iran-syria-hizballah-hamas with the moderate arab states (read arab states with bought leaders doing what we want).Nothing will come out of it and nobody intends strike a deal for peace all what they want is war war war
I hope to unite the forces of moderation against the extremists and fundamentalists, so as not to ignite a war zone in the region with catastrophic consequences .
I may add as Arabs and Iran certainly have no monopoly on those who fit into that category.
There may be fanatics on both sides, but one must admit there are far greater and crasier barbarians ready to explode themseves just to kill a few Jews or other moslems, or westeners.
Another Braverman idiotic statement like the withdrawl from Gaza and establishment of Hamas ,or the withdrawl from Lebanon and the establishment of Hizbolla ,both groups now threatening Israel with thousands of missiles is a threat to Iran .
How can you call those Mickey Mouse Firework "rockets" or "missiles"?
Do you really believe staying in Gaza for the sake of radical settlers or being sitting ducks in South Lebanon was a better option? I am sure Hamas and Hizbollah will have to pay a devastating price if they would decide to go to war again. Despite all vicious Rhetoric both fronts remained relatively calm. Neither of the two is being served with a new massive confrontation, and both know.
Although Hizbollah's military capabilities should not be exaggerated those missiles are no firework, as you call it. Maybe they look like funny firecrackers from your lazy chair in Copenhagen, but their threat is real. Your assessment is preposterous and dangerous, because it paints a false picture of the situation. You better learn the facts before talking your habitual nonsense again. Talking is Silver, but keeping silent is Gold, dear Tony....
Tony you have been repeatedly posting the same cut and paste lie about "Mickey Mouse Firework Rockets" Why dont you ask Dorit Binsain (2), Yuval Abebah (4) ,Afik Zahavi (4), Ella Abukasis (17) and Dana Galkawitz (22) about the Mickey Mouse Fireworks Rockets" that killed them. Or ask Maor Etz who had his legs blown off by your "Mickey Mouse Firework Rockets". You are a disgusting excuse for a human being.
If you are,then I suggest you stand in front of those Mickey Mouse Fireworks and see if you can repeat the USUAL HOGWASH you spew day in and out. IDIOTIC BUFFOON
Israel has the answer to those missle
Do you really think the Israelis created Hamas and Hizbollah? This is such hogwash--it's like saying Stalin created Hitler by means of the non-aggression pact.
Try sitting on one after the fuse is lit, jerk.
That does not mean the peace process will succeed... Since 1993, it shows that the safest bet is to put your money on failure than success...
WHEN PEACE PREVAILS`IRANN GOES OUT,WHEN PEACE GOES OUT IRAN STEPS IN. M.EAST PEOPLE SHOULD BE WISE ENOUGH TO MAKE PEACE.
Looking at the eagerness with which Netanyahu wants to talk 'peace' with Abbas and the body language of Netanyahu in Washington over past few days gives me a distinct impression that Netanyahu is out to bring the so-called 'moderate' Arab countries onboard to attack Iran. I think similar tactics were tried before but Arab countries--led by Saudi Arabia--have refused to be part of attacking Iran unless their leaders can say: 'Look, we have Palestinian state now due to our efforts. That problem fixed. Now let our other problem of a Shia Iran be fixed'. But Israel will have to give some real concessions to Palestinians before the Arab regimes can be brought onboard. Also, Israel will have to give real concessions to Syria over the Golan Heights before Syrian-Iran axis is weakened. Also, not to mention, attacking Iran can easily engulf the entire region in a war of mutual destruction. This is not 1967 where Israel can have a cake-walk. The region is flooded with missiles of all sizes. Better all learn to live in peace.
Israelwants to bring the Arab countries on board. It has to make some concessions on the palestinian issue. If we see in the forthcoming days these concessions that would probably mean that the attack on Iran is looming
Somehow I do not think the a Palestinian-Israeli peace agreement will bring stability to the region. It cannot hurt the situation but an understanding and acceptance of Shia and Sunni needs to be found as well. Aside from disliking Jews ...they have a terrible dislike and distrust of one another.
Peace is the period of time in between two wars
And let us and the Palestinians solve ours. Arnold, why should we mix into other people's business before tackling our own? Or did you mean this should be done INSTEAD of tackling our own?
Peace would destroy Iran's deterrent to Israel.
Visit to Cairo is at the top of the dreams of Israeli politicians ,it doesn't carry any weight with Iranians . Just like Cairo's hosting of the last Shah after Carter shooed him out of America and the subsequent fury of mullah's had nothing to do with Israel . Both countries would like to dominate the ME and use every opportunity to squeeze the other out ,Israel or no Israel.
You make sense...
They have been for years - they will try every trick to thwart peace. We shall see if they shall succeed
israel is pure as driven snow
Palestinian side is done , if US Israel turn to the Syrian track and actually have some sort of agreement , that will defiantly neutralize Iran . IRAN COULD be forced to stay out of the Arab countries . Without Syria Iran couldn't keep their hand in Lebanon or Iraq and Hamas would no longer need Iran if peace is achieved !!!
Israel has no realistic military option against Iran (with US disapproval), other than a nuclear strike which is unacceptable before the Iranians have a nuclear weapon and are ready to use it. The distance to Iranian nuclear installation is bigger than what the roundtrip range of the most capable Israeli plane can do without midair refueling. (Where?) The installations are also well dispersed and some locations may be unknown. Here is a completely different alternative for Israel: 1. Make peace with Syria. The Syrians offered it to Sharon and Netanyahu (following Hafez Assad strategic decision to make peace with Barak). Syria at peace will kill Hizballah by depriving them of access to weapons, and get Meshal and other Palestinian rejectionists out of there. Cost: The Golan. 2. Make peace with Lebanon. Papa Assad promised this will follow, and Syria can deliver. No more arms supply to Hizballah, and it will become a political party. 3. Make peace with the Palestinians. Abbas wants it, and Fayyad is establishing a state whether Israel likes it or not. Cost: Practically all the Territories except for some exchanges. 4. Make peace with all Arab states, as per the Saudi plan. 5. Iran, having been pushed out of the region, looks elsewhere to cause trouble. Iraq and Afghanistan will keep them and the US busy. Israel is no longer of central interest to them.
Make peace with Syria. Ha. Give them back the strategic Golan. They will fill it with "Hamas, Hizballah, and Iranian terrorists that will lob rockets into Israel with impunity. Remember when Arafat was banished from Jordan and ended up in Lebanon?? That was why Israel invaded Lebanon? Make peace with Lebanon?? PLEASE!!! Hariri was murdered easily and anyone going against Iran will also be murdered. Hizballah will never go away. Make peace with Abbas for what the West Bank?? What about all the Hamas terrorists running amok in the West Bank?? They will surely be launching attacks against Israel before, during, and after peace. What will Israel be allowed to do then?? Rumble into "Palestine" with tanks and declare war?? Or will they have to rely on Abbas useless security apparatus to stop it from happening??
And who told you that Saudis and Lebanonis and even Syrians want any peace deal with Israel? And do you know what the real cost is? Syrians, for example want not only the Golan but also half of the Kinnereth, which is fully Israeli.
Iran will launch a rocket. It goes straight up, but does not reach escape speed. The rocket will then fall straight down back onto the launching site: boom.
I like your thinking but how many people will support this ?
Since the Earth continues to rotate while the rocket is still up, the boom will probably miss the launching site. But of course if the rocket is very slightly tilted westward, what you envision is theoretically possible. But to tell the truth, I doubt you can work out the details if this "miracle". Nor would Rambo and msh do that for you; they also seem to be afflicted with non-real thinking. So why don't you imagine something simpler: The rocket explodes ON the launch pad. This way you don't get into trouble with ignorance.
... jump into a hot tub of warm tangerine-scented Jell-o and hug each other and sing Peter Paul and Mary songs. LOL Dream on, child.
100 % accurate, very hard to acheive but possible if the israelies can get security guarantees from us nd europe..i dont think its imposible..peace is nocking at the door
are you relying on pieces of paper ??? or do you have an enforcement plan ? so far since 1919 no arab promise or treaty with jews or israel has ever been honoured! the peace treaties with egypt and jordan being current examples .
...or even deprive them of weapons. But as usual you make up your own facts
In other words Jerusalem will be the capital of both Palestine and Israel. Best to get used to saying that without wincing.