Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman is considering a draft document that would offer the Palestinians immediate recognition of statehood within provisional borders as an incentive for dropping their UN bid.
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Lieberman mulling offer to Palestinians: Drop UN bid and Israel will recognize state within provisional borders
Draft document still under consideration states that no deadline will be set for declaring permanent borders, says Israel is left with few options in light of Palestinian campaign.
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56 0 0Lieberman's offer
- By PeeBee
- 23 Nov 2012
- 09:30AM
Where does this proposol differs from the present situation? Lieberman is offering an hollow box.
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55 0 0Israel is running scared
- By ron
- 23 Nov 2012
- 07:26AM
Israel is obviously quite scared by the prospect of this UN bid. And rightly so. The International Courts will then dissect every illegal act that Israel has perpetrated and they are many. This will put all Israel's illegal acts under the microscope for the world to examine. It will not be a pretty picture and the negative PR for Israel will have enormous consequences on forcing a 2-state solution that will be fair to the Palestinians and restore a lot of land already stolen by Israel.
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You are fooling yourself
- By DovB
- 26 Nov 2012
- 02:01AM
You might not like what Israel is doing but not much is illegal. It will claim the WB as disputed territory not occupied. It has Palestinian and Arab refusal to recognize them as an excuse, Palestinian terror and especially the last intifada will work in its favour. As long as Hamas is around Israel can sit pretty. I am no saying Israel's position is correct. But they will get away with it because the other side is worse. Much worse.
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You forgot , West Bank is also palestinian. What will Israel say they
- By Razzmatazz
- 27 Nov 2012
- 11:56PM
Did to deserve their sorry situation.
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54 0 0Lieberman's chutzpah
- By ruben siedner
- 20 Nov 2012
- 01:25PM
There is no was but a political solution. Despite the threat by Gaza-Hizbollah weapons and the damage to human lives and to economy in Israel, The State of Israel is partly responsible too for the current situation. Responsible by means of continuous settling in the West Bank, responsible by permanent ignoring Human Rights, responsible for shlepping the issue for 40 years without willing or being able to reach a compromise with the Palestinians. Instead the country drives towards racism, growing intolerance and finally getting worse political results in the future. Arabs need to do nothing but sit aside, wait, smile and win these final "results".
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This is true
- By ron
- 23 Nov 2012
- 07:29AM
Your comments are totally correct. Well done. The Palestinians just have to wait. The UN will deal with Israel. The US is not longer interested. Note that Egypt already stepped in and will back the Palestinians to the hilt on every move. Also Turkey already turned away from Israel due to Bibi's ugly moves. The tide has turned.
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53 0 0From threats to offers
- By One
- 14 Nov 2012
- 11:54PM
You gotta love it, you know israel is in trouble when one day they make threats and the next weak half hearted offers, no thanks vote baby vote at the UN.
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52 0 0Sooo, a non-offer for a non-state based on non-borders
- By Johnboy
- 14 Nov 2012
- 11:40PM
Can't imagine why Abbas would reject THAT. Errr, when Lieberman gets around to, you know, actually offering it instead of just "mulling" it.
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51 0 0Why the fear Israel, you have nothing to fear from the ICC if you have not committed car crimes ...insert sarcasm
- By Art from Australia
- 14 Nov 2012
- 10:48PM
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50 0 0The "deal" is what the Yanks call "3-card monte."
- By Melissa
- 14 Nov 2012
- 10:01PM
Israel has never kept any treaty or "deal": that she has ever made. Next stop, the UN, then the ICC.
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49 0 0No. Isreal admitted the settler INTO Israel, and gave them Israeli citizenship.
- By Melissa
- 14 Nov 2012
- 09:57PM
Bring YOUR citizens home, Israel. Bring them back into the safe bosom of Israel proper. They were NOT admitted to any area OUTSIDE of Israel proper.
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48 0 0this offer and the international co/urts
- By edd bell
- 14 Nov 2012
- 09:13PM
israels whole strategy si to avoid the pals being able to refer them to the international criminal courts as they know that they will be found guilty and after that the state of israel will move to a southa frica apartheid situation with international boycotts starting after israel is found guilty of many crimes not least murder
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47 0 0Palestinian state
- By ibn Ezra
- 14 Nov 2012
- 08:02PM
@Humanist Of course the Pakestinians have the right to have their own state in secure borders. The UN Partition Plan of 1947 specifically allowed for two states, one Arab, one 'Jewish' with Jersusalem as an international city that neither state had sovereignty over. As you know, the Jewish part of Palestine declared statehood while the Arab part did not Cohen new state of Israel was not given the right by the Arab world that the Palestinians now demand and the Arabs lost even more land as Israel ended up with the 1948 armistice lines. These are now the generally accepted borders of Israel (though not in Gaza or much of the Muslim world). Given the current Israeli leadership, I would not be surprised if a unilateral declaration of Palestinian statehood dies not result in an invasion by Israel, much like the Arab invasions of 1947. That said, it is vital for both sides to negotiate peace and borders. The PLO might have to forget Gaza in order to get the state it wants and needs, unless Hamss are prepared to be part of the negotiations and accept the results. Israel should definitely suspend all settlement activity not already well under way until the status of the land they are on is agreed : if some settlement blocks on the Green Line are part of a land swap deal, then development could continue on the future. Clearly the barrier must be moved to whatever borders are agreed: in theong term, peace permitting, it will come down again. Abbas has made several noises that look like genuine offers of peace. Likud think it is just rhetoric. They should call his bluff, if that's what they think it is. What is the worst that can happen?
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46 0 0This should be a non-starter for the Palestinians
- By Humanist
- 14 Nov 2012
- 07:26PM
A state with provisional borders only in Areas A and B? What a joke. Go Palestinians. You have the same right to declare your state as did Israel. DO IT!
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45 0 0A russian nomad...LOL
- By Zulu
- 14 Nov 2012
- 07:25PM
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44 0 0Liberman"s Word?
- By Vittorio Antonio
- 14 Nov 2012
- 07:13PM
The Palestinians are really doomed if they deal with the likes of Lieberman or any fascist ruling Israel today.
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NOPE! If LIeberman can pile more war crimes on the Palestinian at his peril.
- By Melissa
- 14 Nov 2012
- 09:46PM
The ICC is just down the road.
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43 0 0Borders
- By Eldar
- 14 Nov 2012
- 06:58PM
We should never give in to any Palestinian borders let the other country's have them tell the brother hood to the them the problem is no country wants these people
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Nope! Israel ratified the 4th Geneva Convention. She has to take the refugees
- By Melissa
- 14 Nov 2012
- 09:47PM
Back and compensate them.
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lol
- By ha
- 16 Nov 2012
- 10:18AM
like 40 acres and mule?
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borders
- By anna
- 20 Nov 2012
- 02:47PM
@43 it is not your country go home where you belong.Vive la Palestine.
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42 0 0the ugliness of Lieberman's looks and actions are incredible and
- By isreal is proud
- 14 Nov 2012
- 06:51PM
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41 0 0israel giving in. That means they are scared. ABBAS BABY, please continue.
- By i just love a distressed isreal
- 14 Nov 2012
- 06:48PM
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40 0 0stop aggression against humanity
- By pure
- 14 Nov 2012
- 06:20PM
stop aggression against humanity
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39 0 0Statehood
- By Isot
- 14 Nov 2012
- 05:14PM
No carrots and no State please.
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38 0 0Lieberman mulling offer to Palestinians: Drop UN bid and Israel will recognize state within provisional borders?
- By Moshe - Haifa, Israel
- 14 Nov 2012
- 05:11PM
Lieberman, first of all you, like Netanyahu, are the world's biggest liars and no one should trust either of you. This is just another delay tactic and another attempt to con the Palestinians ionto your trap. Lieberman, you can say what you want and offer whatever you want to offer the Palestinian people, but you will never be able to stop a Palestinian state from being created by the Palestinian people under their own conditions. Not you, the mighty USA or even God himself will be able to stop that. Israel is becoming weaker and weaker every day, just like America, so Israel is in no position to make any offers to anyone. What Israel needs to do is end the occupation, leave ALL occupied territories, remove all the settlers out of these illegal settlements and allow the Palestinians to create their own state under their own rules and conditions, otherwise, the day will come that Israel as we know it, will cease to exist, you know it and Netanyahu knows it and that is why yuo are squirming to make a deal.
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palestine id for the un
- By nail elshareif
- 28 Nov 2012
- 05:28AM
well said Moshe.
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37 0 0So there is movement after all, even from this biggest block of concrete of them all
- By Parvus77
- 14 Nov 2012
- 04:50PM
Perhaps there is still hope for Israel.
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36 0 0what a sarcastic offer mr lieberman
- By adam adam
- 14 Nov 2012
- 03:14PM
if you really want peace and can offer 50% of west bank so why don't you offer 100% of west bank with recognize palestine as state as you can do it...
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35 0 0The world mulling offer to Israelis: Drop settlements and the world will recognize state within provisional borders
- By hannah
- 14 Nov 2012
- 03:02PM
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Post of the day!
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- 14 Nov 2012
- 08:50PM
And smart too.
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34 0 0Pals don't even care for a state as much as being a thorn in Israel's side. there endeth their raison d'etre
- By ReubenofNY
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:50PM
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More lies from the hasbara
- By One
- 14 Nov 2012
- 11:55PM
The Palestinians are the ones that have agreed to '67 borders Israel objects.
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33 0 0Temperary borders, hmmm then Lieberman officially lives abroad, not in Israel
- By Simo
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:45PM
Can a man who lives in Palestine be the FM of Israel? Settlements are in Palestine so Lieberman will be a Palestinian. A Moldavian Palestinian ...
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32 0 0Joke?
- By AlexKS
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:38PM
The proposition is a joke. I genuinely laughed. Is the Israeli leadership really so out of touch with reality?
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Laugh today . cry tomorrow
- By statistically the Palestinians always loose
- 14 Nov 2012
- 03:54PM
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In all statistics, there is always a chance...
- By SJ
- 14 Nov 2012
- 06:14PM
Chance of having rarest deadly disease is 1:2,000,000... What do you do if you are that 1?
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Israel will be the one crying
- By One
- 14 Nov 2012
- 11:57PM
If they don't make peace.
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31 0 0Their Right
- By Almond
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:30PM
It is over due a Palestian State.Liberman or any power in the world can not stop Palestenian. It is their country , their right what they really want to do. Israel , Abbas, America and even United Nations can not solve this proplem, only Palestenian people can solve this problem.israel must understand this. They can stop for a while, but reality is not change a single inch. Palestilian will be victorious in course of history. You need to prepare this changing.
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30 0 0At this juncture, it's a good idea to accept this proposal by Israeli government ...
- By Smadar
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:24PM
and immediately begin negotiations towards a permanent agreement. It's a good start in preventing further problems down the line.
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I think we've seen this before.
- By Nicholas
- 14 Nov 2012
- 03:01PM
Let's negotiate says one person, ok says the other. Then one makes a demand and the other says no. This is how negotiations appear to have worked, maybe the palestinans just decided they would work around this problem. I hope they win their vote, maybe someone will decide to impose sanctions on israel for illegal occupation of westbank, illegal blockade of country, threatening and sometimes carrying out pre-emptive strikes (also illegal).
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Smadar---give it up.Israel does not want peace at a price.
- By labhras
- 14 Nov 2012
- 04:03PM
Did you read Lieberman,s statement on choosing between A democratic Israel or a Jewish Israel. You are such an optimist with no connection to reality.
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29 0 0Area A and B are a non-contiguous joke
- By SD
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:20PM
This would mean, in practice, that Palestinians will be cut off from their main sources of water and agriculture, and also from each other. And most importantly they would legally accept this, with no time limit. Good luck with that one.
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Areas A and B also comprise less than 50 percent of the West Bank
- By LS
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:45PM
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28 0 0The Alleged Deal
- By inbound39
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:13PM
The Palestinians need to tell Israel where they can place their deal as no agreement with Israel has ever been honoured by Israel. The Palestinians need to forge ahead at the UN. Under the same process Israel itself took. Forget what Israel says...the World is behind the end to the Occupation,the end of illegal settlements. No need for temporary borders....67 Borders is a fair deal for Israel. It is more than they got given in the initial partition. No need for agreed land swaps either . Nor any need for the IDF to be anywhere in Palestine.
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right, absolutely
- By haasa
- 14 Nov 2012
- 04:55PM
Agree absolutely.
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27 0 02 points of particular interest in your report:-
- By LS
- 14 Nov 2012
- 01:47PM
(1) Israel is clearly extremely concerned about the Palestinians having access to the ICC. (2) Obama is not interested in trying to stop the Palestinians from seeking the UNGA vote. Does this mean that during his second term Obama will be less accommodating of Israel's demands? Too early to say but early signs are positive.
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Obama has tried (and is likely still trying) to dissuade Abbas from approaching the UN. The fact is...
- By Ash
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:26PM
there's very little that he or anyone else (besides the Palestinian leadership) can do about it. I wouldn't read this event as Obama being any "less accommodating of Israel's demands".
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obama in the ME
- By kahn
- 14 Nov 2012
- 04:01PM
dont; hold your breath unfortunately. obama has other fish to fry; goes both for israel and palestine
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26 0 0The Palestinians should do what's best for them
- By Hamish
- 14 Nov 2012
- 01:46PM
to get out of misery. Enough of being taken advantage of, and being taken for a ride.Enough of being the real victims.
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25 0 0Israel is left with only one option: dismantle the illegal settlements in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem
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- 14 Nov 2012
- 01:42PM
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Other option
- By Victor
- 14 Nov 2012
- 04:19PM
Become a normal civilized country with equal rights for all.
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24 0 0Do NOT trust Lieberman.
- By Ben
- 14 Nov 2012
- 01:41PM
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23 0 0Carrots
- By Go Israel
- 14 Nov 2012
- 01:38PM
The Jews had to wait 2000 years to return to their homeland Iisrael) that they were kicked out of, along with every country they ever settled. When they were accommodating and civil, they were slaughtered or exiled. GB finally returns the land to its rightful owner, albeit surrounded by all sides with those who wish to exterminate them and it is the first time the Jewish people decided to do things differently and stand up for their land and fight to keep it.
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Strange theories GoIsrael, have Jews really been the victims all the time
- By Simo
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:39PM
Jews have been the wealthiest and best educated minority in Europe and USA for a long time. Jews have been ministers and held countless important jobs. Hardly possible for a mistreated minority. Claiming land and property because your ancestors MIGHT have lived there 2000 years ago is a very weak ownership claim, What is your ancestors converted to Judaism 500 years ago? Judaism is a religion, nothing else. .
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Bizarre argument...
- By M Svensson
- 14 Nov 2012
- 03:46PM
Trying to make the argument that the Jews were a privileged minority in Europe is pretty bizarre. Every time they built themselves up, they got their livelihoods destroyed and were lucky to escape with their lives. Besides, your description of a wealthy educated Jewish population applies to those who lived in cities, but the ones who lived in villages in Russia, getting their houses burned down on a regular basis? Yes. Very wealthy. Very well treated.
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read your book
- By kahn
- 14 Nov 2012
- 04:03PM
I think you did not read the bible. there the israelites never stop fighting, right left top down etc... war, war. no wonder women have to earn the living in addition to producing adored warrior sons.
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22 0 0Judging by the general tone and content of the posts here and elsewhere...
- By Curious kuku
- 14 Nov 2012
- 01:26PM
and given that in international diplomatic circles both Bibi and Yvette are loathed and distrusted in equal measure, I would opine that Israel is as we speak, in the winter of its expansionist developement. To any and all fair minded people everywhere this is a good thing.
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21 0 0Lieberman: Another pilitical dinosaur
- By willoughby l lloyd
- 14 Nov 2012
- 01:24PM
When is Israel going to get rid of individuals as Lieberman? This man ran out of ideas long ago, his brain is bankrupt of ideas; he appears to be patriotic while he sell you your soul to the devil. Every time he opens his mouth only stupid statements comes out. He is the product of languid politics, incompetent and out of focus.
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20 0 0Idiot. Once recognized by Israel, Palestine will become a FULL UN member! May even end up on the Security Council. Unlike Israel.
- By Shimon
- 14 Nov 2012
- 01:06PM
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Did you say Idiot?
- By ruben siedner
- 20 Nov 2012
- 01:39PM
Your understanding of tiny little countries like Israel and their influence on global political issues ist schocking. It's Israel's arrogance, its megalomania and the utter tradition to find victims elsewhere beyond its proper borders, that impedes the peace process. Get out of occupied territories, learn Arabic, make friends with Palestinians and learn to respects their feelings, - only then peace can be predicted. perhaps.
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19 0 0Seems to me
- By Guy
- 14 Nov 2012
- 01:05PM
Like Lieberman is infact threatning the palestinians with what the actual outcome will be if they go ahead to the UN.
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18 0 0You know Israel is in a disadvantage when they're willing to negotiate.
- By Ben
- 14 Nov 2012
- 01:01PM
Dont take any empty promises from the Israel,history has shown us that they cant be trusted.
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hahaha. whereas the arabs, those bastions of truth and honour, can be trusted. you're good for a laugh.
- By @ben
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:38PM
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17 0 0Sorry Mr Sam Soul, you're way off the mark
- By H
- 14 Nov 2012
- 00:53PM
The World is watching entrenched Racist morons like Abu Qatada walking free to preach his Antisemitic and Anti Western garbled rubbish and wondering, "Why the hell is this creep being sustained with our money and our taxes? Send him back to Jordan". This and the 40,000 Syrians murdered by their own people, the one and a half million displaced Syrians, the continued violence in Iraq, Libya, Tunisia, Pakistan, Burma, Bahrain, Egypt, Sudan, Sri Lanka, Somalia,Lebanon and our boys returning in body bags from Afghanistan doesn't endear us, or the rest of the Democratic world to Radical Islam, and as you know yourself, it doesn't take much to turn unsatisfied people into rampant Racists.
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Your argument seems completely illogical.
- By LS
- 14 Nov 2012
- 01:42PM
So why not hope that giving the Palestinians a viable state will turn them into satisfied people. If not giving them a state - which is the current situation - means they are "unsatisfied" , giving them a state cannot make matters any worst. And who knows - it might make things better!
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- By Samsoul
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:02PM
i have no idea what you're talking about.
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- By Ariel
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:49PM
Look who´s talking about racism... the government of the "only one democracy" of Middle East is currently the most racist Israel ever had. How about the last survey made among Israelis which found out that majority of the population agrees with an Apartheid style state?!?!
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Samsoul--- re H--neither does He.
- By labhras
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:51PM
H is just a lost soul who knows that the gig is up for Israel and there is not a thing he is willing to do to stop it. ie---condemning the illegal settlers and their supporters . He would much rather go on about Syria and China and etc, etc,etc.
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sam Soul "The Whole World knows Israel"
- By H
- 14 Nov 2012
- 08:01PM
you can't even remember your own words
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H - those were my words.
- By SamSoul
- 14 Nov 2012
- 08:16PM
"The whole world knows Israel, Bibi, Lieberman and their extreme-right coallition are not interested in peace with palestinians. "
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labhras I have and will continue to condemn and despise
- By H
- 14 Nov 2012
- 08:16PM
the illegal Racist right wing Radicalized settlers, but if you think that means I 'll now embrace your murderous heroes, who shove AK47's in the hands of their children then I suggest this will never happen. Perhaps you will one day have the guts to support the notion that most of our World leaders are corrupt, opportunistic greedy men, Jew, Muslim and Christian alike. If you can do this then we have found common ground.
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16 0 0Let Israel present a MAP of their offer on provisional borders at the UN. Israel never offered any map, they only want to TALK about one.
- By Structural Masterplan
- 14 Nov 2012
- 00:45PM
The time for "talking down" to stateless Palestinians is over. It's now time for earnest, credible, and sincere negotiations based on Obama's parameters to produce a permanent border and two viable states for two peoples.
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Lieberman
- By lightharry
- 14 Nov 2012
- 01:21PM
Lieberman is a good man. He will talk this thing to death, raise it again and talk it one more time to death. This guy does not mean business.
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15 0 0Lieberman draft says that "Israel is left with few options", which is ...
- By Herring
- 14 Nov 2012
- 00:43PM
true if no one, on either side, really envisions peace as an option. sad
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14 0 0All Israel wants is another "interim agreement" and sufficienttime to kill it just like Bibi Netanyahu killed Oslo.
- By Crazy Horse
- 14 Nov 2012
- 00:30PM
NO THANKS.
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13 0 0Would you buy a used car from this man?
- By Ashamed
- 14 Nov 2012
- 00:27PM
Temporary borders to Lieberman, mean just that, temporary. Permanent borders will just be kicked into the long grass. Don't trust this man.
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I wouldn't buy a NEW car from him
- By alan
- 14 Nov 2012
- 08:38PM
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12 0 0Yes, Israel "will recognize temporary borders" -you know, likeOslo was promised to be a temporary, 5-year, interim agreement.
- By Kiev500
- 14 Nov 2012
- 00:22PM
The Palestinians got screwed in that deal. And by now we all know about that wonderful youtube video of Netanyahu bragging on how he "personally stopped Oslo" by determining that all of the Jordan Valley and much of the West Bank was a security zone and therefore a "defined military site". (But first he said "turn off the camera" because Americans must not know his true colors.) -And now Bibi and Libi want Palestinians and the world to trust them again? FAT CHANCE. Far better to negotiate permanent borders and land swaps with the newly recognized provisional Palestinian state. Israel wasted it's best opportunity to do this the easy way, -through negotiations as per the Road Map.
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11 0 0Do not believe. Demilitarized state is no state. "Masters" can always forget what they promised or use any pretext
- By Freedom fighter
- 14 Nov 2012
- 00:12PM
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10 0 0Temporary borders? Has Lieberman got mad???????????????
- By Esq62
- 14 Nov 2012
- 00:10PM
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09 0 0Temporary borders? Sure, so make it the Green Line.
- By Johnboy
- 14 Nov 2012
- 00:04PM
It is a perfectly viable "temporary border", precisely because it is ALREADY the line where "Israeli law" ends and "IDF military law" begins. Sounds just the thing to me.....
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Never again
- By Yonatan
- 14 Nov 2012
- 00:12PM
The late Foreign Minister Abba Eban once defined the 1967 birders as "Auschwitz borders"?, referring to the nazi death camp and the mortal danger that faced Israel within these borders.
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We will never understand, don't compare
- By A Guy
- 14 Nov 2012
- 00:18PM
Will you stop comparing the Palestinian situation to the holocaust, its so simple minded and demoralizing.
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Stop using the Holocaust card for everything
- By Dino
- 14 Nov 2012
- 01:44PM
and do the right thing by these people.
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Yonatan, we are supposed to be talking about TEMPORARY border
- By Johnboy
- 14 Nov 2012
- 11:43PM
You appear not to understand the meaning of the word TEMPORARY.
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08 0 0Temporary borders ?
- By Eric
- 14 Nov 2012
- 11:57AM
Well, based on 67 borders with agreed land swaps. Thats the way to go.
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07 0 0Lieberman
- By Samsoul
- 14 Nov 2012
- 11:57AM
this man is a crook, shows no respect for the palestinians and tries to bargain with them as if they were carpet sellers in a souk !! temporary borders means nothing. This is another way to crook the palestinians as Israel has done so many times in the past. Go to the UN mister Abbas. That's the only way the palestinians will get their land, their independance, their pride, their dignity AND justice. The whole world knows Israel, Bibi, Lieberman and their extreme-right coallition are not interested in peace with palestinians.
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06 0 0if the pals get observer status, some interesting election debates willbreak out
- By just saying
- 14 Nov 2012
- 11:55AM
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05 0 0keep the pressure on, mr abbass,israel creaking at the seams, pen ismightier than the sword
- By umma al Arabiya
- 14 Nov 2012
- 11:53AM
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04 0 0Lieberman, the ILLEGAL settler, has spoken ... in complete ignorance fothe processes of independent statehood
- By talknic
- 14 Nov 2012
- 11:52AM
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03 0 0why are they cutting deals now? where were they the past 60 years?
- By [R]
- 14 Nov 2012
- 11:49AM
the only way for the palestinians to get an even close-to-fair deal is through legal channels, and not through gun-to-the-head negotiations.
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The problem with the negotiations the last 20 years has been...
- By Jesse
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:15PM
the large power disparity between the parties. Israel, being the vastly stronger party, has had no incentive to yield an inch in negotiations - they have free reign in the Territories without the responsibility for the Palestinian civilian population. Why would they change the status quo? The Palestinians have finally proven that Israel will not budge unless they can display some strength and exert some leverage.
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correction: israhel being the US biggest wewlfare recipients
- By so USA is fundinng the occupation
- 14 Nov 2012
- 08:30PM
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02 0 0Palestinians don't need ' carrots ' , they want an independent state.
- By Walt D
- 14 Nov 2012
- 11:49AM
If Liebermann is serious about allowing the Palestinians establish an independent state ( which I doubt ) he should publish a map with the future borderline. Secondly, has Bibi also given his consent to this proposal ?
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erm...too bad. it's a JEWISH state. no room at the inn.
- By @walt
- 14 Nov 2012
- 02:38PM
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Soon to be binational!
- By Melissa
- 15 Nov 2012
- 00:11AM
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01 0 0pal observer status, is clear with the barrage of the big sticks and now carrots, ithat the consequencesfor israel are deemed very serious,
- By SPOCK
- 14 Nov 2012
- 11:49AM
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