Lebanon: We'll reject U.S. military aid if weapons can't be used against Israel
U.S. says nothing it does is condition-free and that it places similar conditions on Israel in terms of assistance it provides.
By The Associated Press and Natasha Mozgovaya Tags: Israel news Lebanon USLebanese Defense Minister Elias Murr said Wednesday he would reject any U.S. military assistance to Lebanon's army if it comes with conditions that the weapons not be used against Israel.
Murr was commenting Wednesday on a decision by U.S. lawmakers to suspend $100 million in aid over concerns the weapons could be turned on Israel and that Hezbollah may have influence over the Lebanese army.
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A Lebanese soldier holding his rifle as Israeli troops patrol the border fence in the southern Lebanon village of Adeisa. |
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Murr said those who want to help the Lebanese army but place conditions on how their funds or weapons are used, should keep the money.
He also said a Lebanese soldier who opened fire across the border with Israel earlier in August was acting on orders. The clash killed two Lebanese soldiers, a Lebanese journalist and an Israel Defense Forces officer.
In response to the remarks, U.S. State Department spokesman Philip J. Crowley rejected the claim that the United States was halting military ties with Lebanon and said that the country is committed to its relationship with Lebanon, but has conditions for its assistance.
"We continue to believe that investing in Lebanon's government and investing in Lebanon's military serves as a stabilizing influence and expands and strengthens Lebanon's sovereignty," Crowley said during a press conference.
He added that "we place conditions on how our military aid is delivered, and there are similar conditions in terms of how Israel is able to use the assistance we provide them."
"Nothing that we do is condition-free," he said, adding that "obviously we think that the nature of our training programs, the nature of the equipment that we do provide to Lebanon is in our interest, and in Lebanon's interest. And this is a relationship that we hope to strengthen."
A top aide to Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Hariri harshly criticized a decision by the U.S. Congress to freeze military aid to Beirut in response to the clash on the Israel-Lebanon border.
The adviser, Mohamed Chatah, said Tuesday the aid suspension is unjustified and weakens the government's efforts to build the Lebanese Army.
One week after the incident on the Israel-Lebanon border that killed Lt. Col. (res. ) Dov Harari, the chairman of the U.S. House Foreign Affairs Committee, Howard Berman, announced that Washington would freeze $100 million in assistance earmarked for the Lebanese military.
Berman said Washington needs to closely examine "reported Hezbollah influence" on the Lebanese armed forces before it resumes providing financial aid.
"Until we know more about this incident and the nature of Hezbollah influence on the LAF [Lebanese armed forces] - and can assure that the LAF is a responsible actor - I cannot in good conscience allow the United States to continue sending weapons to Lebanon," Berman said.
The congressman noted that the decision to halt aid was taken before the shooting incident, which only highlighted the need to better supervise the way money is being used.
The United States said it has seen no evidence indicating that American weapons were used by Lebanese soldiers in the cross-border incident.
According to State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley, Washington has no intention of re-evaluating its military relationship with Lebanon despite calls from Israel to do so.
"[U.S. financial aid to the army] allows the government of Lebanon to expand its sovereignty," Crowley said. "We think that is in the interest of both of our countries and regional stability as a whole."
The Lebanese Army is seen as woefully under-equipped compared to Hezbollah, which is believed to have been rearming since its 2006 war with Israel. The military lost 170 troops when battling an Al-Qaida-inspired Islamist group holed up in a Palestinian refugee camp in 2007.
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Lebanon Murr is irrational and maybe all too obvious in his statement which is not what a real statesman would say. He is saying give me the weapons and we can use it against your allies. He is sick Lebanon is sick all the Arab regimes are sick and infected with hate. The US should not give them the Lebanese aid
Screw them! Lebanon caters to the whims of Hezbullah. They are surely no friend to Israel.
Israel has no friends apart from the bought and paid for Parcel of Rogues also known as the US Congress.
The photo shows a LAF member with an M16,which I beleive is American made,the Americans say the LAF did not use American weapons,I suggest they ask the IDF about the bullit that was taken out of a wounded soldier,fired by a sniper rifle or M16.Where did it come from?
appear to be belgium made
Since military aid started Lebanon has bought alot of M16s for the army which they are attempting to modernize. As all the solders patrolling the border are armed with M16s it stands to reason that it was an M16 that killed that soldier. The Obama adminstration wants to continue giving military aid to Lebanon its all part of their outreach program if no US weapons were involved they can say there was no American weapons used so I don't see any good reason to stop giving the military aid. An M16 is not quite as obvious as being an American weapon than something like a Patton tank also bought with aid but its still an American weapon bought with aid and its the thing that was used to kill the soldier without provocation.
It would be much easier for everybody if all the parties start compromising and start working for peace ... After all armament and weapons are not such good news...
Congrats Israel! Very well done. You are being led by bunch of genious...
How is it that the USA is sending weapons to Lebanon any way? Lebanon doesn't have the leadership to handle such destructive force. We know that the Lebanon Govt. is two weak to fight hezbollah, and if it can't fight hezbollah... It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the hostility in the people of Lebanon towards Israel; we know Israel must go after hezbollah, and to do so it must be on Lebanon soil. I would like to know how long has USA been giving these weapon out? Israeli's must be careful even of it's allies. Sometimes the grass is taller than the snake.
or just a one way zionist with blinders
The U.S. shouldn't be treating Lebanon, the aggressor, accessory to terrorists and under the thumb of terrorists, including terror states, the same as Israel, a country that uses its armaments to defend herself. The latest confligration is an example and pretty much a model of what happens in the middle east. Israel is attacked by an Arab state or group, Israel fights back and is then accused of aggression. Its transparent what happens and its outrageous that the U.S. simply goes about requiring the same of both the criminal and the victim.
whenever you keep pumping a baloon,it is certainly shall explode and vanish,,, wake up, sounds you believe that you are the only governer of this world,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, damn Hitler
Crowley is a clown
Let Lebanon get their weapons from Iran. A shame that such a beutiful country is working against it's best interests by siding with the nut cases in Terheran.
Perhaps Israelis are willing to kill and be killed to promote thier Jewish-majority state. You want to invade Iran, Lebanon and Syria? go right ahead. Then you can use your great Israeli ingenuity that I hear about in all of your Hasbara to manage your own middle east colonial enterprise. Israel is up to the task. How many other countries can boast of having invented cherry tomatoes?
"You can use it to defend your sovereignty against him, and him, and him - oh but wait...not him - you can't use it against him!" Gimme a break!
Hezbollah is armed to the teeth. Nobody disputes that. The Lebanese Army is the natural counter-weight to that force; indeed, the ONLY possible counter-weight to that force. Nobody disputes that. As it currently stands the Lebanese Army would not last a day against Hezbollah, and nobody will dispute that. So what does Congress want to do? Ans: It wants to further eviscerate the Lebanese Army. It is bizarre thinking, because the only possible outcome is the strengthening of Hezbollah. Why would Congress want that?
No Hezbollah then Lebanon has no problem with Israel. If Lebanon continues to allow the fake "resistance" to provoke Israel than it deserves the problem.
gimme a break!!!!!
why israel is alow tokill lebanese children by american weapon and lebanon is not allow to use it against israel by the way iam against any side to use arms instead of using this billion of dollars for weapon use it for peace they can build million of houses for all the peopole of the rigion because there is aplace for palastinian and jews to live ihope the american stop sending arms and used all this mony for peace iam sure jews and arab people 90percentthy are fed up from wars and killing for62yars ihope you publish this article
AN EXCELENT REASON TO RELOCATE TO ISRAEL! I I think I'm in love...!
I AGREE WITH 32. RUSSIAN WEAPONS ARE CHEAPER AND FEWER STRINGS HANGING... ANYWAY THE USA PEOPLE NEED THE 100MIL AT HOME AND NOT FOR FUELING WARS ABROAD!
how convinient for Lebanon to ask for weapons to be used the way they want, including giviving them to hezbollah and in turn to atack Americans. There is no shame and dignity within this nation who is hostage of hezbollah ,Iran and Syria
America should not waste one cent on Hezbollahtan-Lebanon. However, it should support the historic people of Lebanon-the Phoenicians to liberate their country from the Islamist-Jihadist occupiers called Hezbollah.
Lebanon, aka 'Israel's Whipping Boy' is making sounds like the army might engage in national defense for change.
the Weapons that Israel get from the US can be used against Lebanon but the weapons Lebanon gets from the US CAN'T be used against Israel. Double standards! I wouldn't want to be treated like a second class 'friend' either if I was Lebanon
truly frightening what he has done...and even if you take him at his word, that he wants to protect israel, its beyond any doubt at this point into his term that his ME policy is making things worse. Men like baker, brzezhinski, koh, khalidi, wright, indyk, farakhan, power, freeman, chomsky, all have had a hand in shaping both his world view and his destructive ME policy. a wicked mixture of anti sems, academic self loathers, house jews, and flat out islamists. Not one of them can truly support their end games arguments.
Lebanon is acting like they would be doing us a favor by accepting our money,. They speak about "No conditions", as if they were the PA, brokering a deal to end the israeli occupation. . FYI, Lebanon still has 400,00 Palestinian refugees in it's country, and they are treated worse than the ones in Gaza and the West Bank.So what exactly is their reason for attacking Israel? With no more Israeli occupation in Lebanon and with mistreatment of Palestinians worse there than in Israel,(a hard goal to achieve!), The answer is simple..MONEY! Blood money from Iran among other places.
Breaks my heart.....regards...Gregg Bowman
This is a joke, once again the perpetrator is the victim. Hezbollah kidnapped 2 of their soldiers and in return they kill 1500 civilians, injure another 5000, reducing lebanons infrastructure to rubble and use internationally banned weapons but they did it for their own protection. How many times have the israelis breached resolution 1701 by flying over lebanese airspace on reconnaissance missions?
When the Islamic Arabs and Persians get emboldened, believing their own propaganda. With the Iranian mullahs pushing their proxies this year or the next to pick a fight with their percieved weakened Israel. Lebanon will become a spoil of war thanks to the comments made by Lebanese defence minister re 'was acting on orders...', amongst other recent Lebanese actions. Nasrallah will get away with the political murder and Lebanon will grow closer to Hezbollah.
do
besides we all know hizballah is the one with all the weapons anyway
What an analogy. The U.S. is telling Lebanon can have its military assistance only to have a civil war or otherwise Israel will destroy you. I say it is better for Israel to cut Iran hands by making peace with its neighbors, otherwise I feel sorry for Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt and Israel. And the one who would be laughing at the Arab and Israel is Iran.
Maybe Lebanon could do what Israel does, take the weapons and break the promises about using them against civilians... It would appear that the Lebanese aren't deceitful liars like the Israeli administration though. Bravo Lebanon!
You are pitiful with comments like that
These deaths are on Americas hands to the same extent they are on Israels hands. Somebody has to take a stand. Lebanon, Iran, and Turkey are a nice start with backing from Russia and China.
to respond harshly. 2000 casualities is a tragedy. Hammas should be made acountable for bringing such a tragedy to its own people. Hopefully it will be voted out. Who needs them?
iran, turkey, lebanon, russia and china...all beacons of freedom and human rights. hahahahahaha
Like those that say 1,000 Gazans and 1,200 Lebanese died without mentioning that over half of them are actually terrorists and most of the remaining civilian casualties are due to the terrorist organizations' use of human shields. Yet Israel is doing far more than other states in that regard to lower civilian casualties, check how many civilians NATO killed, soldiers from your countries, and you might remove some of the bias. Civilians die when terrorists use them for cover, thats how it is around the world. Pity people here use them for propaganda
I have never seen in my life any, any moslem to defend the US, on the oposite there have been thousands Jews defending the US.
turkey, lebanon, iran, russia and china may have their issues...Israel is hardly any better. Israel has shown the world its a terrorist state. When was the last time Iran attacked another country?
That's all very well, but you made a commitment in advance not to use them in that way.
people such as you. You encourage violence against Israel, applaud it and are willing to sacrifice your own for the satisfaction of your hate-lust. Sorry, American didn't locate Hamas and Hezbollah amongst civilians, didn't locate Hamas in schools, mosques and hospitals. Nor is there any reliable documentation that those killed were all truly civilians. Obviously, the way these two terrorist groups fight, its impossible to do so. So, (a) the entire proposition you put forth, many civilian deaths, may be bogus & (b) its the fault of the compatriots of the civilians. In any event, in Gaza, this is what the civilians wanted. They knew full well when they voted in Hamas that Hamas wanted to destroy Israel. Though undoubtedly there are innocent victims in Gaza, people of good will, they must live with the consequences of the democratic decision of Gazans. Vote for a terror group, stop whining when the intended victim fights back very hard!!!!
people such as you. You encourage violence against Israel, applaud it and are willing to sacrifice your own for the satisfaction of your hate-lust. Sorry, American didn't locate Hamas and Hezbollah amongst civilians, didn't locate Hamas in schools, mosques and hospitals. Nor is there any reliable documentation that those killed were all truly civilians. Obviously, the way these two terrorist groups fight, its impossible to do so. So, (a) the entire proposition you put forth, many civilian deaths, may be bogus & (b) its the fault of the compatriots of the civilians. In any event, in Gaza, this is what the civilians wanted. They knew full well when they voted in Hamas that Hamas wanted to destroy Israel. Though undoubtedly there are innocent victims in Gaza, people of good will, they must live with the consequences of the democratic decision of Gazans. Vote for a terror group, stop whining when the intended victim fights back very hard!!!!
Arabs attack Israel, Arabs DIE. Arabs attack Israel again, more Arabs DIE! Arabs stay put, Arabs live. There is no other way. These death are on their own hands. If they did not attack the border first, 2000 lives would have not perished.
We know that you are a group of UCLA students who pose as a fake "Natallie" and take round-robin shots at Israel. This latest post is pure rubbish.
Israel's relations with Iran prior to the Khomeni revolutions were quite ardent. Israel's attempts to sell AWACS technology to China is well documented and the Israeli pavilion at China Expo 2010 is Israel's pride and joy. As to freedom and human rights... ask your bolshevik and socialist collectivist forebears and the Palestinians all about those concepts. It's the gelt and control, Judah, it's always been about the gelt and control.
Arabs always attack first! Are you that mean? Lebanese attacked Israel without provocation on Israeli side of border. You need to leave California because you need to move to Lebanon, Syria or Iraq and then open your mouth.
So the soldier was acting "on orders" when he murdered an Israeli soldier in cold blood across an internationally-recognized border, and that army won't accept any restrictions on the use of American weaponry. The inescapable upshot is that they want to have those weapons for more unprovoked murder. Do we need to have any more justification to withold any further weapons shipments from this jihadi-in-diapers terrorist-in-training Islamo-fascist proto-state?
They basically saying, our weapons are for you to kill each other, fight Syria or Turkey, but you can't touch Israel that does over flight daily over your territory and our technology cannot be used to catch Israeli spies who infested your country.
I am sure we could use that $100 million here in the US. No problem. Take all your funds and weapons from Iran and then see how you lose all control of your country.
you right jane and could use the billions of our tax payers money that we give to isreal it wont be for long we will have to put a stope to it give isreal that much of aid for nothing we can use that money at home much better than to give it to isreal or any other country's
you will actually end up giving it to Israel to build more settlements or bail out some douchebags in the insurance industry.
So, the Lebanese decide to forego any protection they ever received from the U.S. and become a front-line battle outpost for Iran. Soon the only thing exported by Lebanon will be the Lebanese.
Couldn't have said it better.
couldn't find hezbollah so to blow up poer plantsm brdges....the civilian infastructure.....when not firing smart missless and red cross abulances....1 million refugee all the way into syria...yeah they will miss US protection
If the U.S. is to say what weaponry can be used on what they're infringing on Lebanon's sovereignty the same way the Iranian putting soldiers on their soil would.
"So, the Lebanese decide to forego any protection they ever received from the U.S" The Lebanese learnt in 2006 that when Israel decides to go the thump on their country then the amount of "protection" they can expect from the USA amounts to bubkiss. And they have now learnt another valuable lesson: in the event of a repeat of 2006 they can expect the USA to immediately pull the plug on all military assistance. Conclusion: Do Not Allow Yourself To Be Dependent Upon USA Military Assistance. Or, as Nasrallah might say: I told you so.
Of course these things need to be blown up. They are used to transport military personel and equipment which, indisputably, were being used against civilian centres. Moreover, Lebanon was making no effort to control, let alone fight, Hezbollah. Lebanon didn't ask for assistance in fighting off this terror group. And now Hezbollah is a formal part of the Lebanese government. This is an official change but not a substantive change. Israel was fighting Hezbollah. As to firing missles, that is laughable. How many did Hezbollah fire and what were they targeting? Thousands more than were fired by Israelis, who unlike Hezbollah, fired as munitions and fighters. As to 1 million refugees, the only documented and reliable refugee flight amounting to close to 1 million people, were Jews who were excluded from Arab nations. Most of these Jews settled in Israel who accepted them and made them citizens. What did the Arab states do with the Pals who ran for cover when they knew the Jews of Israel were going to get a licking in 1948? In short, your full of it!
The Lebanese army is no different then Hezbollah, they have no intent on using there weapons against Hezbollah, there cowards and they proved this when Hezbollah held Beirut hostage in a civil war, killing Sunni's who tried and fend off Hezbollah who took veto power over anything the government decides well the Lebanese army locked the doors on there bunkers and hid until the government, completely defenseless, had to cave in to Hezbollah's demands. The LAF had become an Iranian proxy on that day, everything passed must have the approval from Tehran, since Hezbollah is there admitted proxy. Why the US government continued to aid Lebanon after that baffles me, US abandoned Lebanon when it let Hezbollah siege the capital and offered no assistance what so ever, and the LAF were useless when it was time to get there hands dirty.
Josh, your points made sense in many ways, but if you wear the shoe of the Lebanese people and look around in a prospective way without prejudice you will find out they are no different than you. I was there, Josh, when the Lebanese killed each others by funded money from everywhere including Israel. The Lebanese said no more again to civil war as much the Jews said never again. Wise up and face reality, Josh, unless you believe Israel should have its way at any cost on other people expanses.
The whole point of having weapons is to be able to defend your borders. American has shown they can't be impartial so it might be better for Lebanon go to another source for their military funding.
The Arab states (including Lebanon) that invaded Israel in 1948 were just "defending their borders" (while they managed to seize the W. Bank and Gaza for themselves, blocking a Palestinian state)? Your theory of the purpose of possessing weapons is at best naive, and more to the point, idiotic. Iran does not need long-range missiles and nuclear weapons and 40,000 rockets placed in Lebanon on Israel's border to "defend its borders" from an Israel 1200 miles away. Its intention is to attack - FAR from its borders.
How can we even compare lebanaon to Japan and germany of 1940? I think you drank to much at your gay pride parade last night buddy
Are you comparing Lebanon to Hitler Germany and Japan? It is israel which is expanding territory and occupying parts of lebanon!
The block of Palestinian statehood came from actions of Plan Dalet and Irgun not because the arabs were helping to defend from Israeli attackers that were seizing proposed Palestinian lands. Only in your mind was Israel being attacked. Are you perhaps borrowing your own doctors name who treats you for your mental ailment?
The invasion you use as justification happened 62 years ago. Times change and we change in them. What does it have to do with your invasion today?
laughable ...obama is facing reality.
as in your version of reality.
Its' the Israeli Lobby that is hampering improving the relations between Muslim countries and the U.S. - it's not Obama's fault when one congressman who is a strong Israel supporter places a hold on milittary aid that had already been agreed to.
Its' the Israeli Lobby that is hampering improving the relations between Muslim countries and the U.S. - it's not Obama's fault when one congressman who is a strong Israel supporter places a hold on milittary aid that had already been agreed to.
Israeli pressure on US foreign policy is driving yet another country into hostility towards America. America's special friend wants to be America's only friend.
France too.
Yeah there are plenty of weapons for sale. But who's gonna pay for them? The Lebanese?
its gonna be our oil and its gonna be your money thats gonna be pay for it and we will be so happy to pay for it for them and we wont tell them how to use it they can do any thing they like with it
US supplying weapons for ground control like artillery, older tanks and small arms weapons. Russia, paid for by Iran or Saudis would supply newer radar, anti-aircraft weapons or aircraft which would limit Israel use of aircraft and force more ground actions. While Israel could win a ground war, the cost would be high in many ways, not just soldiers but fewer settlers coming to Israel and possible reduction of exports.
AFAIK the reconstruction of South Lebanon after the 2006 war was paid by UAE (over $ 1 billion)
Actually all superpowers know how much it is important to make the Lebanese Army stronger than Hizballa that is the only way to weaken Hizballa political stant, leading it to loose the political arena, Unfortunately Israel seems many time to enjoy the presence of Hizballa because it cause instability for Lebanon
The military aid provides the US with jobs as well as jobs in reconstructing the regions damaged. Its a win-win for the US.
Military aid is not to be used to take pot shots at Israeli soldiers they are for use in wars to defend the country. What happened the other day was not self defense in anyway shape or form and if the soldier who murdered an IDF soldier was using an American M16 then the US has no business giving Lebanon these weapons. The Lebanese army isn't even doing the job that the US is arming them to do because the government has now officially made Hizbollah a defense force and is letting them keep their weapons even if Hizbollah are still a law unto themselves. If Hizbollah is now officially part the system then the army won't go against them anyway so whats the point? If Russia and Iran want to continue to arm Lebanon thats their decision but the US should not be giving them weapons.
and why us the American should we give the IDF any weapons? ohhh i know why we should give it to the idf maybe that way the if can kill some kids with it or occupies another country
was a Russian Dragunov SVD 7.62mm sniper rifle. It's just too difficult to a make a head shot at 300m with a M-16
chest-beating islamic hezbolah ruled lebanon... More money left for USA taxpayers... lebanon is not a friend of USA...
do you really want more money for the American taxpayers? So stop giving infinit aids to Isreal which is arround 20% of the tax paid by each american...
Good....plenty in the US need this on our homeland. If they don't like the terms, we'll keep our money. Simple. Complain because we don't give it, then complain about how we stipulate NOT spending it. Can't have it both ways!
Its definitely not. I repeat not in Israel's best interest to weaken the Lebanese opposition to Hezbollah by inciting the moronic handful of misguided congressmen to stop funding to the only hope Israel has to eradicate Hezbollah. So now what Iran calls the shots? Has the US Congress really become this stupid. Is there no one left with half a brain.
The moment the world sees Lebanese opposition to Hizbullah that is equivalent to Taliban, then Lebanon will get every military support needed. not before that
Yesterday Iran declared that if the USA denies ammo to Lebanon, then Iran will make up the deficit... Today Lebanon declares that if there are any conditions attached to USA aid, then they don't want USA ammo... Too many "coincidences" here...
is slowly, painfully, incrementally starting to see the light. Decades of oil money influence seems to sway otherwise sharp minds.
is slowly, painfully, incrementally starting to see the light. Decades of oil money influence seems to sway otherwise sharp minds.
lebanon is begining to sound more and more like iran with the kind of statements it issues. It will do this and do that blah blah . Is this a rehearsal for a ventriloquist act on the horizon? Uncle Amadinijad and his little niece Hez ie sitting on his knee,.
Likud has it's hand up the US Congress's rump... All the proponents of retribution against Lebanon are part of the Jewish power structure... Cantor, Berman etc...
I'm really tired of all these blatant lies all stupid here make. Turkey is becominf like Iran, Lebanon is becoming like Iran blah blah blah.. NOT REALLY! This shows that every country in this world is starting to stand on its own foot because they were so many times betrayed ..
The US is not the only source of money and influence and weapons. President Berman is too young to remember the Cold War.
Lebanon never needs money to defend itself, Lebanon has proven itself over the years to stand on its own feet with the support of its own people after every war and is always booming and Israel is the one that needs usa help always.
Yeah, I doubt we'll see any israeli leader cry over israelis, i.e. Gilad Shalit...
Hey the only two countries to have invaded them, attacked them directly, and against whom they might need military force are Israel and Syria - seems right to me that the Lebanese can use their defences to say shoot down Israeli aircraft.
As far as I remember, Lebanon was a part of Syria until the french decided lebanon should be all christian....which failed miserable.
israel is granted the most modern and destructive warfare which was often used against lebanese civilians, while obsolete weapons are sold to lebanon. who needs this s--t!
All Israel = under 1/10th of 1% of the Middle East, yet bozos like you won't see why we shouldn't have enough defense against a sea of cousins who desperately wish we were foreign like Euros to America and S. Africa, and who wish us dead and gone since long before our nation's rebirth.
Weapons used OFTEN against Lebanese civilians ??? Please provide a complete list of OFTEN. When they were used, they were totally justified to confront the Hezzies aggression. Hezbos are the DEATH OF LEBANON.
NO BODY WISHES HARM TO THE JEWS,BUT THE ZIONIST GOVERNMENT WILL ROT IN HELL
who are arabs yet traitors to their countries.
Distinctions without differences.
Israel, AIPAC, America. Also distinctions without differences.
O.K. Here is a distinction that makes a difference. Hamas's Charter provides for the destruction of Israel, not AIPAC or America. Need we go further down your ridiculous point? What do you do, repeat everything you here as an alternative to thinking?
Reject US military aid? THAT's what I'm talkin about!
i suppose you are not going to mind iranian trainers moving into lebanon to train on new anti aircraft weapons, etc?
and it is when US does not threaten Iran, so Iran does not need Lebanon, so it does not pay such big salaries. You are pushing exactly the wrong side! The more you threate Iran, the more it has to pay to lebanon.
Iran becomes a problem when it finances Hezbollah, else Iran and Israel have never been involved in any direct war. If US goes in Peace with Iran, then Iran has no interest in enmity with Israel but many interest to be a friend country, just such as another Non-arab state, Turkey. 10 years ago, if some one was talking about peace with US, it could directly go to prison, even he was president Hashemi!Iranian super power Mulla. But now every body is counting to get peace with US. So the Mullas have to close their big mouths! It can be the same for Israel.
Genuine Moshe now your are as your name being dishonest. Lebanon is important for Israel because of WATER and NATURAL RESOURCES.
You really think Obama is capable of all that? Obama, who thinks that the Taliban will lay down their arms if only he can keep the West Bank Jew-free (even pre-state Jewish communities like in Hebron and Gush Etzion ethically cleansed by Arabs)? All Obama has achieved is to demonstrate to Israel that it should make its own bunker-busters to supplement its existing GBU-28 inventory, and to demonstrate to every Gulf Arab state that Washington would rather forsake them to Iran than countenance another war in the region.
He increased the level of US troops there to 150000 against his supporters position as well as VP. What this fibberish you mumbling has to do with anything??
Israel is an important ally but only one of many and many in Congress focus more on helping Israel more than they do the US. The Jewish lobby in US is strong but it will have to becareful not to get caught in backlash that is coming.
israel gets latest weapons first
maybe finally understands that Libanon's governement and LAF are run by Hizbullah and the whole country is Iran's prop.
Do you think so? How about UN SC resolution limiting imports from Iran? Is Lebanon, not Hesbollah, ready to confront world's power?
Israel faces no consequences from "worlds power", why should Lebanon?
speaking in the long term... He does done his level best to put up a smoke screen to cover exactly who is deciding the ultimate scenario in the Palestine issue...
Oh wait, I have almost forgot the ongoing civil war. It is Lebanon which attacks Lebanon.
You do understand that the Lebanese Army was sworn to disarm and dismantle the militias, don't you?
Are known to attach their arab brethren - thats why Lebanon is the mess it is to begin with.
..the Lebanese have the dignity and honor to reject this aid, whereas their destitute neighbors continue to salivate over more and more.
Israeli friends should not deal with arms to Israeli enemies.
Otherewise how do you think they can listen and monitor what the IDF/ IAF do? INGRATES are like that.
Erm....look at the pictures...the Lebanese soldiers are holding M-16's...US-made weapons...
US aid to the LAF will buy nothing, not even good will. It is a waste of the taxpayers money. The LAF will never be strong enough or willing enough to confront Hezbollah, stabilize the country, or keep the peace. Let's face it, Lebanon has become a terrorist country so let's call it one, treat it as one, and move on. Israel should act as if everyone in that country is an enemy combatant and show no mercy to any provocations.
We must recognize and treat Israel as deemed appropriate by their continued aggression, racism, and war crimes: a rogue, terrorist State, one which does not deserve any money or weaponry from this country, nor any moral support, especially in the UN.
"The LAF will never be strong enough or willing enough to confront Hezbollah, stabilize the country, or keep the peace" As for peace and internal stability, the Leb Army has proven it.. u should start reading Leb news... As for confronting Hezbollah: the aim is not a confrontation between hezbollah and LAF but morelike with the armement of LAF there would be no need for Hezbollah weapons and the internal lebanese front would agree to disarm Hezbollah... and eventually bring peace forward between Lebanon and Israel...
"The LAF will never be strong enough or willing enough to confront Hezbollah, stabilize the country, or keep the peace" As for peace and internal stability, the Leb Army has proven it.. u should start reading Leb news... As for confronting Hezbollah: the aim is not a confrontation between hezbollah and LAF but morelike with the armement of LAF there would be no need for Hezbollah weapons and the internal lebanese front would agree to disarm Hezbollah... and eventually bring peace forward between Lebanon and Israel...
Iran helps them 100 times more! Iranian oil , never goes for Iranian poor, but for Lebanon!
Iran proposed full armement for the Leb army...
Absolutely not! We are sending you slingshots and bottle rockets this time. Show us what you are really worth. Throw out hezbollah and we will consider rearming you.
Under such circumstances there is no sense for USA to supply Lebanon with weapons.
Iranian stooge, american stooge, what is the difference?
Let the Iran provide military assistance
well SIrael now with this piece of information, when will you wipe out teh Leb positions on your borders, or is that all talk and no action
Good information for israel.Now we know,and Israel Now Israel can deal with them more ferociously in the next round.
If aid to Lebanon is conditioned on its not being used against Israel, aid to Israel should be conditioned to its not being used against Lebanon or any other country. No double standard is acceptable. Cut arms to both or none!
The americans only said the weapons can't be used against israel, howver what you want is for lebanon to not to be able to use arms against israel but can use them against any other country, but if it is to Israel you don't want it to be used by israel against another country even if it was attacked which really kills the purpose of having weapons.
Thus proclaimed Chamberlain. Peace is the goal, but it takes two to tango. Considering that the other side is Hizbula/Syria/Iran (and we know how peaceful this bunch is) rather than Lebanon, then expectations need to be realistic.
Considering Hezbollah is on the U.S. State Department's terror list, considering the U.S. and Israel SHARE mitary patents and technology, considering the CIA and Mossad SHARE intel with one another, I feel your comment is beyond embarassing to make the comparison you just made
Agree entirely. So let's get on with the business of Iran providing Lebanon with S-300s to help preserve that county's sovereignty. Oh and that "terrorist" entity has held Israel at bay for one very long time and will continue to do so.
Agree entirely. So let's get on with the business of Iran providing Lebanon with S-300s to help preserve that county's sovereignty. Oh and that "terrorist" entity has held Israel at bay for one very long time and will continue to do so.
So Likud isn't a terrorist organization? The descendants of the Irgun, which was one of the most notorious terrorist entities in Human history, and still embodies many of the same racist/terrorist ideals? The party that flat out REJECTS even the idea of a free and sovereign Palestinian State? And what of Yisrael Betinu, of which former Kach terrorist and arch racist Lieberman leads? We all know his terrorist ways are quite strong to this very day.