Lebanon to UN: Israel will suffer consequences if our ships are attacked
Israel warns it would use 'any means necessary' to stop Lebanon Gaza-bound flotilla from breaking blockade.
By Haaretz Service Tags: Israel news Gaza flotilla Lebanon UN Gabriela ShalevThe Lebanese foreign ministry on Tuesday announced that Israel would suffer the consequences for any attack against Lebanese ships heading for Gaza.
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Lebanese Gaza-bound aid ship 'Julia' awaiting green light to set sail. |
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In a letter to the United Nations, Lebanese Foreign Minister Ali Ashami wrote that “Israel will be held fully responsible for any attack on Lebanon.”
"[Lebanon] can not prohibit a ship from leaving its ports if its cargo, passengers and destination all comply with Lebanese law,” he added.
Israel has warned that it would use “all necessary means” to stop a Lebanese Gaza-bound aid flotilla waiting for Lebanon's green light to set sale. The "Julia" ship is currently docked at the port in Tripoli, and has apparently received permission to set sail.
Lebanese Transport Minister Ghazi Aridi said Monday he had authorized the ship to sail to Cyprus, saying that a state of war between Lebanon and Israel prevented the boat from heading directly to Gaza.
"Lebanon and Israel are in a state of war and no ship has ever sailed from Lebanon to Israel," Aridi told Reuters. "Now what the Cypriots will decide, I don't know. Cyprus may not allow them to sail to Gaza," Aridi said.
Last week, Israel's UN ambassador Gabriela Shalev urged the government of Lebanon and the international community to prevent the small group of ships from trying to break the blockade of Gaza, warning that Israel reserved the right to use all necessary means to stop the vessels.
Gabriela Shalev sent a letter to UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon warning that the attempt by the organizers to sail from Lebanon and deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza could escalate tensions and affect peace and security in the region.
"Israel reserves its right under international law to use all necessary means to prevent these ships from violating the existing naval blockade imposed on the Gaza Strip," Shalev wrote.
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I believe that Israel should nuke Lebanon, Iran and Syria. It talks the talk. Let's see it walk the walk.
Lebanon should let their handlers in Iran do the talking since they are the ones who hold the strings to puppet Lebanon.
Not a sovereign nation? What? Get a clue Chaim.
The last time Israel attacked Lebanon, IDF couldn't move inside Lebanon and fight with Hezbollah. IDF was clearly outpowered by Nasrallah's milita. Just be careful Israel.
We played nice last time. This time the gloves come off.
Israel has no right under international law to blockade Gaza or occupy Palestinian teritory. It should pull back within its borders and hang its murdering head in shame.
That's the reason for the blockade.
They are still "at war" with Hamas and have every right to protect themselves.
because at this point, any heavy handedness that's not provoked by an outright - and real - attack on its forces will essentially bury it.
There will be a world call to suspend Israel from the UN and who knows to take Israel off the map. People are beyond accepting Israel's violent existence in today world as a means of pro- moting itself as a member state. In addition, the reliance on military force shows a great moral weakness on Israel's behalf and a failure by its people to assimilate in the region. Dutch
If they approach Gaza sink them all
If Israel ends up having to board that Lebanese ship, and a battle ensues, why wait for Lebanon/Hizbullah to attack? Just get it over with all at once. The Lebanese/Hizbullah, Syria, Iran and now Turkey are itching for a reason to fight Israel. Just do it and be done with it. Wish I could help...
If there's intent, Lock 'em up.
According to the transportation minister of Lebanon a state of war exists between Israel and Lebanon. Under international rules of war Israel has the right to capture or sink any Lebanese vessels it comes across, if captured the Lebanese ships become Israeli Property and the occupants become prosoners of war. Lebanon has the same right to attack Israeli vessels. THAT'S WAR
They prefer to yap like chihuahuas!
Israel has no right to stop any humanitarian aid entering Palestine, yes it is Palestineas as it has always been, if Israel want to make sure that there is no weapon on the ship they can easily do that without killing another 9 innocent civilians and attract more condemnation from the world so Israel please stop insulting the intelligence of the world and your own critics whom they happen to jews and let the food and medicine enter Gaza
Israel wanted to inspect the Mavi Mamara, the passengers attacked. Let the inspections happen and no problem.
i hope israel stopped all of this terrorist. greeting from Hamburg,Germany
They are brave to face threats and danger from zionist state terrorists to attempt to ship humanitarian goods to a besieged and disenfranchised people.
as a country still at war with Israel since 48 this is just one more act of war
security before freedom or freedom before security. Israel could have it both ways actually, if they allow a third party to inspect the goods at sea prior to entering gaza. The UN could verify all contents at sea from coastal ships off of say cyprus or even from israel proper but israel prefers confiscating all goods then deciding slowly what products pasta or cilantro or cement or wheelchairs may enter and in what quantities. If israel prefers to play its pariah role, so be it. The ships will keep coming, soon israel will need half its army on patrol crafts monitoring gaza waters to prevent spaghetti and wheelchairs from being delivered. I will be very interested to see the price tag of the future anti-spaghetti fleet!
I have one word for you: UNIFIL. That's our experience with third parties keeping the peace and preventing weapons from being smuggled. No thanks.
I don't remember that Lebanon has ceased its state of war with Israel. The Lebanese government is on fragile ground. Take care, Lebanon, that you do not disappear and become another "Islamic Repuiblic."
Israel's blockade is not recognised as legal under international law or the UN. Someone needs to shine a light on this cruel and illegal siege of the people in Gaza. I don't think Israel is truly interested in peace... they take land which does not belong to them and then cries foul when the palestinians use the only means available to them to wage a (futile) war on Israel, given that one rocket attack is met by Israel's full military might.
Because it's war.
You have the right to defend yourself, sea,land and air and no country or nation has the right to tell you any different. God is with you and soon the whole world will learn that also, God Bless Israel
if israel thinks it's o.k to blow ships out of the water in international waters, that means lebanon has every right to blow all israeli military ships out of the water near lebanon, and down any aircraft flying over lebanese air space, i think thats a fair trade, cause i know who will win this time.
Their imagination?
Can sink Israeli ships and shot down israeli air crafts near its borders and they would be in their right. Of course this might cause israel to take counter measures like bombing lebanon. This is war after all and in war might is right.
And Israel will use whatever means necessary to win it. Keep your whining to yourself when war breaks out and civilian human shields die.
Israel lost the war with Lebanon. Remember, they invaded? Show me Israel's Lebanese annex if they won. Where is it? Sure, they could drop bombs and terrorize civilians with indiscriminate air-strikes guaranteed to kill a few unintended "collateral targets," but when it came time to put boots on the ground, they got the beatdown. Sad.
Last time Israel differentiated between "Hizbollah" and "Lebanon." Israel withdrew under international pressure. We could have continued if we had wanted to. Next time we don't play nice. Lebanon, all of it, is now the enemy.
Israel aleady has trade treaties with Cyprus. They can inspect the ship and clear it for entry. There is no benefit in trying to do CPR to this dead blockade. Just keep the weapons out and let the aid in like any rational country would.
Lebanon should be warned that they are risking a resumption of wide-spread bombing again. Its time for Israel's submarines do do their thing, especially with Iranian ships. It is time to tell the UN to leave Lebanon for their own safety. Stand by for war if these attempts to break the blockade continue. These are attempts to shore up Hamas and arm Gaza to the teeth. It cannot be permitted under any circumstances. Israel must stand up or back down like a coward. It is plain that the UN has allied itself with Hamas and Hizbollah. If the UN involves itself then they are putting themselves in harms way. If you are not for Israel then you are against Israel. A major war is building in the Middle East and the UN is facilitating it. Israel WILL come out on top.
Those flotillas are only to provocate
loose cannon beware
Are the ships in Lebanon, Cyprus, or Tripoli. Make up your mind. According to your previous story the ships had to go from Lebanon to Cyprus and then to Gaza. So what is it about being in Tripoli. No way a ship from Tripoli is getting anywhere near Israel let alone Gaza.
Tripoli is a northern city in Lebanon, it has nothing to do with the capital of Lybia, daaaaaaaaaa
might is right. talk is cheap. Israel must and will defend its borders from those who wish to destroy it and will do so any way it can. if Gazans want to live in peace and prosperity then must do so and stop teaching their kids to kill Jews! I am amazed that Israel succeeds in many ways despite the evil that it is subjected to! brains beats brawn!
Gaza is not Israel. The West Bank is not Israel. They have no right to 'defend' borders that are not theirs.
I hope this time around Israel would do so much damage that threats would stop for years and years to come. And no crying of hezbollah should bring so-called world to assist them in stopping Israel finishing their job...
Where is the outrage from the people who are exploiting our tragedy, why not protesting Lebanon for the inhumane treatment for the last 60 years of our people?
IDF should use an all women group to board the all women flotilla :-)
Boy the chutzpah.
the siege on gaza imposed to prevent gazan from getting weapons ok ok i may believe you .. there is a solution inspect the vessels and let them sail to gaza to deliver food and medicine to gaza
The simple solution is for Cyprus to refuse them docking privileges. Then they could not go to Gaza because they came from Lebanon and not Cyprus. Since according to the Lebanese, a state of war exists between Israel and Lebanon, Israel would have the right to stop them. Even the UN would have to stop them under the resolutions passed after the last Lebanon war.
an israeli should never mention UN, Israel has never implement UN resolutions why now they want. cleen your backyard first then come
So no allowance for that..which is why both sides are holding each other accountable for any violence that occurs. Sounds to me like a carte blanche for violence. Not that I'm condoning it as it would be negative for both sides (more so for Israel). Please do not go down this rabbit hole again...
they can dock at Egypt. And from there sail on to Gaza.
Shlomo , if it is Lebanon it is going to be 50 other countries so wake up and smell the coffee and let the food in
How about let them deliver the medicine to the sick rather they fighting them. Again, they are NUNS….
Why are the Egyptians complaining about the blockade being broken... maybe we should open the boarder between Egypt and Gaza.... something tells me Egypt is NOT ready for that.
As time has shown us over and over again, Egypt is only allowed to do what the USA and Israel instruct it to do. The Egyptian president doesn't have the luxury of making his own decisions.
30 year old dictatorships (financed by my tax dollars...that would be US...such a bumpkin only one passport) are usually pretty darn inflexible. Is that what you aspire to?
they are always trying to provoke Israel
All this talk about a Palestinian state and you would'nt even allow a ship carrying humanitarian aid to enter Gaza. How can you expect to have a viable palestinian state when you want to control every aspect of lifeof the Palastinians. Show a good gesture to the Palestinians living in Gaza, they may change their vote next time......
Israel is constantly asked to compromise and show good will but never receives anything in return. As soon as good will is shown then the Pals claim that they forced Israel into the compromise and claim victory. The only thing that slowed down the rocket fire is the Gaza war not good will.
Last time Israel made a "good gesture," by clearing out of Gaza, it was met with the "good reciprocal gesture," of increased rocket fire.
Since when has tyranny ever allowed free elections to vote themselves out of office ?
what about the palestinian state that was voted in 1947 by UN ?instead of that, arab countries decided to go on war. Israel won all the wars... if Israel had lost, there would be no Israel. Plz Accept the reallity and create the P. state. or keep resisting...
The Palestinians are the ones who have been and still are firing missiles RANDOMLY at Israel without regard for who gets hit. The blockade is meant to deny them the weapons and materials to continue the murder of Israelies. If the Palestinians stopped trying to kill the Israelies, there would be no blockade.
Humble yourselves and amend your constitution of war with Israel, sail to Ashdod, allow your ship and personnel to be inspected by the Israeli authorities, and then accompany the legitimate goods to the border with Gaza. That will be the easy part of the journey. The hard part starts with trying to guard your convoy of "aid" to the needy Gazans from the thieving hands of armed Hamas thugs and bandits along the way. Their bank accounts, warehouses, and pantries are already full from ill-gotten aid over the years so they don't need any more.
Why do they have to deport in Ashdod! Gaza should be free according to your claims. So, gazans should be free to host any humanitarian aid ship without having to be checked by israelis!!!!!
Humble yourselves and amend your constitution of war with Israel, sail to Ashdod, allow your ship and personnel to be inspected by the Israeli authorities, and then accompany the legitimate goods to the border with Gaza. That will be the easy part of the journey. The hard part starts with trying to guard your convoy of "aid" to the needy Gazans from the thieving hands of armed Hamas thugs and bandits along the way. Their bank accounts, warehouses, and pantries are already full from ill-gotten aid over the years so they don't need any more.
Just keep your rights "under International Law" (the real one, not the one you assume) and all will be fine.
The moment the Israeli government admitted that its Gaza blockade policy was flawed...it has now opened the flood gates...for other nations to break the last remnants of the blockade. Its an interesting point that Israel is trying to urge the UN and the international community to stem the tide. In past occurances, the UN/international community was generally ignored or treated as biased. Israel's perceived attitude on its principal right to act within "international law" is eroding, given its questionable success rate on the diplomatic front.
Same as with the Iranian ship:send an unarmed border patrol, that would be searched upon boarding the ship to make sure they won't use or plant any weapon, and let them then throughly search the ship at will. The illegal blockade is done with anyway, so this gesture would cost you relatively little. A big plus is that it would all of a sudden easen a lot of the tensions with both Iran and Lebanon. I'm sure some parties in these countries would start saying some praise about Israel.
What if "an unarmed border patrol" as you suggest finds the "reception" the Israeli soldiers found the last time? Will this be OK, since it is only Jews the ones that are to be hit, injured, killed?
how do you propose checking containers loaded under other containers within other containers without offloading such (at ashdod)? we all know that iran and hamas will continue in their jihad against israel and the west. first israel, then the rest fo the infidels!
if aid was sent to the Basques, Walloons ulster militia IRA to be used against the eu//
Oh please, you can flex all you want but you won't do a thing. The same old rotation, "they did it first"... grow up, ME.
Israel should know better, do not mess-uup with Lebanon.,
SO scared, I am sure Israel is already scared of this veil threat
unfortunately for you peter, back in 2006, israel did not have a problem with lebanon, only hizbollah...fast forward a few years and you have the lebanese government supporting hizbollah...if we go to war with hizbollah, it will not be with hizbollah alone but with all of lebanon...dont play with fire or you will get burned...
You are joking, right? Spare me from writing back about 2006. Israel did not push further since it did not serve any purpose as int'l pressure was mounting.
Being met by female woman soldiers. So it all should be well. No fuss at all. The last ship was not peaceful at all and full of hate.This one is gentle kind hearted woman.
The same ones distributing candy and celebrating after 9/11
international law states you had no right to board the boats, dont use internationals laws for your defence when others cant
We're at war, started by the Arabs, to be finished by Israel.
Here Lebanon, who's already at a war with Israel, threating to run Israel's blockade and yet no one is upset about it. I'd be willing to lay money that this will end in violence and THEN the world will again be "outraged"... at Israel. What a bunch of friggin' hypocritx you all are in the liberal media.
And then say they are attacked for no reason by Israel. It has been like that in 67, 80, 06. Always the same story. Israel has the moral obligation to defend its territory. If Lebanon knows it will start a conflict why does it provoke? Just deliver the humanitarian cargo to Egypt. I hope the world will not be fooled this time. Lebanon is criminal.
Yeah, the nerve of Lebanon to bring in food and medical supplies to the beleaguered people of Gaza. Israel is attacked for no reason. In case you didn't know, a blockade is an act of war and it is illegal for Israel to impose this because they are still occupying Gaza. You are the one being fool by listening to Zionist propaganda.
i strongly agree with you Ricardo. I just wish an Israel newspaper published how much aid Israel itself is providing to Gaza EVERY single day ! not a word in the international press... shame on them
The 67 land grab was pre-emptive attach on Israel's part - look it up on wiki. What it boils down is that RELIGION = HATE. Any Country that makes its rules based on religion is doomed to fail.
Isreal kicked Lebenon's butt once before, Can Lebenon afford another butt kicking? Blockade: To stop the flow of goods or weapons from reaching a port. Isreal says if they can search the ships to make sure there are no weapons the goods can go through. Those not allowing searches must be smuggling weapons into a port against a blockade. Therefore I agree with Israel to use all the force nessessary to stop those ships including sinking them. Be searched and go in peace, Run the blockade to make some non-existant point, and die. The choice is in the hands of the people trying to run the blockade.
WHAT COUNTRY DO YOU LIVE IN??? DOES ANOTHER NEIGHBORING COUNTRY TELLS A THIRD NATION TO STOP BY ITS MAIN PORT TO INSPECT ANY GOODS, MATERIALS, HUMANITARIAN AID OR EVEN WEAPONS BEING SHIPPED TO YOUR NATION? SINCE NO IS THE ANSWER THEN WHY IS IT OK FOR ISRAEL TO DO THIS TO THE PALESTINIANS.............HMMMM??
Time to disconnect this artificial life line to Israel as without it the body of the ME will reject it.
That's enough reason and there is no state called "Palestine."
Israel will not let the ship break the blockade it can't and so the ship will either be boarded with soldiers in riot gear rather than with paintball guns or the ship will be disabled and towed to Ashdod. If Hizbollah os stupid enough to start a war over this then the Lebanese will be the ones needing materials for reconstruction after Israeli bombs and tanks have finished their jobs. If their concern is with Gazans and not just trying to get one over on Israel politically then they will work with Israel instead of against it. They will peacefully dock in Ashdod and they will have their cargo inspected and then delivered overland.
ISRAEL NEEDS TO EXPAND IT BORDERS, GIVE AN EXCUSE, BUT DO NOT DO A POLICE ACT, SEND THEM INTO THE DARK AGES
They could well attack the Israel navy with hummus and falafel grenades.
Despite best efforts to demonize the aid flotillas the world recognizes the truth behind the lies.
for both Lebanon and Israel to stop playing who can piss the farthest. Add Iran to the list. It is essential to break the blockade, but far better it be done by those countries and groups who do not give Israel an excuse for another war. There is provocation on both sides here and a dangerous game. Let the German Jews send a flotilla, and perhaps other European countries. If it is an Arab country, Israel will have all the excuse it needs to use all those US weapons it bought.
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah?
(1) Why are Israeli leaders actively sabotaging any peace process that may end in a two state solution, something that is largely, according to analysts from ALL parts of the political spectrum, the best end-game for Israel because of the demographic struggle to retain a Jewish identity? (2) Why wouldn't the IDF set up a security checkpoint in Gaza, accept ALL aid after inspection from WHEREVER, and then (somewhat subtly) stop giving aid in the amounts donated by other countries since the minimum aid required would be met. This would make it so other countries like Iran cannot break the siege (there is no reason to, the aid is being let in and distributed by Israel in accordance with International conventions - perhaps even checked for distribution by the UN officials) and, in addition, reduce the Israeli responsibility for this welfare territory. I get that the reaction of the Knesset is meant to be along the lines of deterrence, but ask yourselves: do you find yourself having to defend Israel more or less after the flotilla raid?
ey there, The IDF, and Israeli govnmt are really not trying to sabotage the peace process. The embargo came after years of temporary truces, after 7 years of Israeli cities under rocket attacks, and after operation defensive shield. The embargo is in place to prevent Hamas from rearming. All flotilla aid was indeed brought to Gaza (ironically Hamas refused it). As well, billions of dollars of aid are brought into Gaza annualy, however many substances must be monitored. Prime example is concrete must have a project planned for it, to prevent it being used to build more tunnels under the checkpoints.
(1) How is Israel sabotaging any Peace Deal? It takes two partners to make peace. The PA is the one that refuses to sit at the same table as Israel to negotiate peace. And then there is Hamas, who openly states that they won't accept any agreement the PA and Israel agree to. (@) How does the IDF set up a checkpoint in Gaza, which is not controlled by Israel, and Israel has no presence in the territory after withdrawing in 2005. Is Hamas supposed to just let a bunch of Israelis station themselves at a port in Gaza to set up inspections?
Israel DOES hav checkpoints in Gaza and tons of aid go in every day. In fact there are multiple recordings on the interent of the Israeli Navy offering the previous flotilla to dock and transoprt ALL the aid to gaza after inspection. The reply was "Go back to Auschwitz" and "don't forget 9/11"
Its like the fox promising the fish it won't eat it- How do you possibly believe you can negotiate with terrorists? First the Arabs have to stop supporting Hamas and terror actions - then talks can begin! Let me ask you, who would you ultimately trust- a Hamas supporting arab or an Israeli? I know I choose the Israeli any day!!!!
Your 2nd Question is valid. Israel likes to give the impression it provides aid. It doesn't it allows or doesn't allow aid to reach Palestinians if it is bought and paid for by others. Israel could easily set up at-sea checkpoints. That is not the point of the blockade-siege.
So Israel has no right to stop shipping vessels from entering Gaza.
You are misinformed. Israel or any other nation under attack like southern Israel would do the same.
You're illegal!
Not really, according to numerous UN resolutions, or international maritime law. What Israel did to the first convoy can be described in one word: Piracy. Pure and simple, the boarded a ship in international waters, killed the passengers and commandeered the cargo. Sounds like a movie script.
Israels only problem is her efforts to explain herself- Everyone knows Israel is simply defending herself.
does lebanon and syria have every right to down any american plane or ship that is supplying israel?, your answer will be no because it's a different story, my dear boy, murder is murder regardless of which way a person was killed, i'm sure that applies in your country as well as ours.
does lebanon and syria have every right to down any american plane or ship that is supplying israel?, your answer will be no because it's a different story, my dear boy, murder is murder regardless of which way a person was killed, i'm sure that applies in your country as well as ours.
read 1994 Sam Remo international laws and Helsinki Principles on the Law of Maritime Neutrality. The blockade and the attack to the flotillas are perfectly legal.
In Aridi's own words, Lebanon and Israel are at war. That means that ships coming to aid that enemy are legitimate targets.
After Israel has lifted the "siege" over Gaza (keeping the naval blockade in place for security purposes only), what will be the gain to the Lebanese activists from sending another ship? By now they realize that they will end up in Ashdod, which they can now do directly, by shipping officially all the humanitarian goods to Gaza through Ashdod? Well, consider the case of the disappearing ship "Miriam". We have seen pictures of the Bishop blessing the women voyagers. Was this an illusion? Perhaps not. The Miriam might be on its way to Gaza right now, going in some roundabout way, perhaps to an Egyptian port, then make a turn and head towards Gaza, and all this time Israel is watching out for the "Julia", a newly announced ship which may simply be a decoy. Perhaps the goal here is to outsmart and humiliate Israel.
Don't delude yourself. The IDF is well prepared to intercept any and all ships that approach gaza.
Outsmart?? Decoys?? Have you ever heard of drones? Satellites?? Awacs??? U.S. Spy Satellites?? Do you think a raft could get past Israeli surveillance unless they wanted it to???
Israel never lifted the siege for one minute, with the help of the Egyptian puppet they put a strangle on the Gaza and on the Palestinian public so they would revolt against Hamas, and not to mention that in the name of Shalit they are starving one million people , so go tell this to somebody else or go and educate yourself more