IDF warns of wave of violence as Hamas vows to sink peace talks

So-called "illegal settlers" have nothing to do with it, because before the security fence was built, Hamas attacked almost exclusively inside pre-67 Israel. Its all about killing Jews, not settlements. The fence forced them to change tactics. And before the 1970's, there were zero W. Bank settlements and these same terrorist groups (and the Arab states sponsoring them) attacked israel and hijacked jets regardless. So your logic is complete crap. Noting the fact that all those states and parties denouncing Israeli settlements had nothing to say at all - ZERO - from 1948 to 1967 when it was Trans-Jordan who was illegally occupying the W. bank and Jerusalem, building Jordanian settlements there, blocking a Palestinian Arab state from forming (they annexed it) and barring all Jewish worship in jerusalem, not just by Israelis. So, you folks simply have no credibility on the matter, moral or legal, and why you are properly ignored. If Israelis werenot involved, you wouldn't care - where is the concern over Turkish-occupied Northern Cyprus (do you even know what I'm referring to?).

There would he no settlements, as the Israeli public would have stopped supporting them a long time ago. Tell Hamas to stop pushing their faux resistance agenda.

You are clearly an idealogue. You have your narrative - that it is Israel which is sabatoging peace, that if it were up to the dear sweet peace-loving Palestinians, all would be peaceful - and there goes Hamas, not only showing us that this isn't true, but actually acting on it ... as they have all along. But why change your narrative, event when all the facts show otherwise. How inconvenient for you.

Jordan and Egypt are in peace with Israel so stop talking lies

Maybe we should also ask Ecuador, Nepal and Botswana to join in. Any excuse not to sit down and make peace. You make a mockery of your people Fadi.

So why do they still send rockets from Gaza when all of Gaza is only controlled by Hamas ?

So now its the fault of the victims that they were slaughtered. While we go to Washington to discuss peace Hamas will do everything to in its power to derail the process. If we accepted your three simple steps the "illegal" settlers relocated back to Israel will be murdered in Israel. Been there and done that when Hamas killled hundreds and maimed thousands with suicide bombers a few years ago.

Doctor, how many times has Israeli invaded Gaza over the past ten years? Can we still keep count? If you want to guarantee that Hamas won't attack settlers, then disarm them and withdraw them to Israel where they belong instead of setting up camp on Palestinian lands where they terrorize and murder innocent Palestinians. And those attacks that you're talking about on the Taliban and Al Qaeda are probably are totally ineffective at best and totally destructive at worst given the fact that we're losing up to 100 soldiers a month in Afgn.

josh 1:01 "Dispose of thy religious texts so that thine eyes might be opened unto reason"?

We have too much religion. Look how sick some of the Orthodox and Muslim people become with religion. They become blind with hatred, find justification for violence, hatred against women etc... Someone must be an enemy.

The very people who should be included in those negoatiationsare kept out....What a big fat lie this all is again . People are going to go mad and protests will erupt around the world. Such lies and deception are unacceptable at this point.....Dutch

the settlers are beginning to build and Hamas is assisting in the failure by their terroristic response to the 'talks' that ignored them. Mission Impossible. A waste of time and money Any agreement will be made invalid by the other.

But why should they when the entitlement of Palestinians is well known to all and much sooner than later it will be realized.

Israel, which is why Hamas gets no support from Egypt or token support from the rest of the Arabs.Ya see Fred, the Arabs learned, especially in the gulf War that a "wise enemy is better than a stupid friend", so they don't really support the Palis

are you sure they had no weapons? i wish the killings hadn't occurred, but don't kid yourself: colonizers are not innocent civilians. and tell me, how is dropping white phosphorus on hospitals an act of bravery?

Israelis were slaughtering the stone throwing Palestinians in Gaza massacre. If you want a fight, let it be fair. You cowards have the latest weaponry thanks to the American senators on AIPAC payroll. But at the same time, you prevent Hamas getting even a grenade. How could such a war be fair where the weaponry of both sides have no comparison at all? Israelis are the most cowardly people on earth. Let Hamas and Hizbullah have the same weapons and then fight and defeat them if you have the balls. I know you cowards are afraid of them and that is the same reason you want to prevent all their arms import. Be a man..

If you want fair you need to choose another country to battle agaisnt.

...is that it is surrounded by countries and terrorists whose sole intention is to destroy Israel,as in Hamas charter,Hezbollah wqith 40,000 missiles on Lebanese border.Israel has had toto fight several wars since its creation in 1948,in order to survive(pre-emptive or otherwise) It is a tiny country..A plane can cross it in 5 minutes or less.So its not a question of 'fairness" or 'disproportionate response.as Israel can only 'lose'once and it would cease to exist...which is what Iran,Lebanon,Syria,terrorists want..Let's have peace without being ruined by those who dsont want it...then we can live together in peace...Until then....?

Those who commit heinous war crimes have no problem with defining it as such.

Agreed but still not up to IDF standards. Witness the over 300 dead Gazan children resulting from Cast Lead.

and where's Shalit?

perhaps you would want to take on an israeli for a hand-to-hand combat? We shall see who the real coward is, pal.

I agree,Jake. Killing innocent civilians is despicable. So was Operation Cast Lead and the Israeli attack on the Gaza flotilla. Surely you agree that those attacks were equally despicable???

Did you know that I 1948 the Israeli army had no tanks no artillery and no air force and we were attacked by at least 2 fully modern armies, but we managed to beat them.

but they get missiles and rockets from Hezb, Iran and other sympathetic forces. Hypocritical much?

Fred dont let the facts confuse you. Over 7,000 rockets were fired by the "stone throwing Gazans" into civilain towns and villages in Israel. Hamas does not need grenades. Egypt just uncovered large caches of Hamas arms in the Sinai containg anti tank mines, anti aircraft missiles and explosives. Does blowing up civilians in buses, malls, restaurants, and hotels constitute a fair fight. What is a fair fight. You fight to protect you people and you use everything youve got. Hamas and Hezbollah should consider themselves lucky that the IDF fights fair otherwise they would cease to exist along with a lot more civilians. We know the Arab definition of being a man, it means that you treat your women like crap. Stoned anybody lately Fred.

that might be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. giving your enemies advanced weaponry? who has EVER done this? or b/c its Israel we need to arm the terrorists with weapons that will kill more Jews so there's less around after the dust settles? Go off yourself, immediately.

Have you no shame that you continue day after day to post Islamic Jihad lies and propaganda. Please post a link showing where Israel dropped white phosphorous on hospitals. They did not touch a single hospital including the one where the main Hamas leadership was using its basement as a HQ. You are just a mouthpiece for terrorism

Jake trots out his old accusation of the 300 dead Gazan children. Maybe if Hamas did not use its citizens as human shields then there would not be one dead childr. What about our dead children Jake. What about the more than 100 children under the age of 16 blown up in malls, buses, restaurants, while eating pizza, waiting to go into a disco, in our streets and schools. What about the hundreds maimed by flying ball bearings and nails dipped in insecticide. Dont come crying here about the children of Gaza. What about Dorit Bensain (2) Yuval Ababah (4) Afik Zahari (4) killed by Quassams fired inhto Sderot. Jake you have no credibility here. You are just a supporter of terrorism and a Jew hating scum bag.

ARABS STARTED WARS AND LOSI THE ALL. ARABS DISTROYED CONVOY OF PATIENTS BEING TRANSFERED TO ANOTHER HOSPITAL ARABS BOMBING BUSES. ARABS FLYING PLANE INTO BUILDINGS KILIING INNOCENT WORKERS. NOW THIS IS FROM BRAVE PEOPLE

Your words are those of prophets... please enlighten us. Further your claims... Demonstrate what the All-mighty gave you at birth...

your point escapes me. please elucidate for those of us with intellects more modest than your own (those who had never read nor even heard of Alexandr Solzhenitsyn until you enlightened us).

Just like 10 to 20% of Israeli's are arab. 10 to 20% of Palestininas would be Palestininan. We have Iranian Jews why not Palestinian Jews?

ok. works for me. as long as they aren't in israeli-controlled/protected enclaves

According to Hamas, it's Jew season again.

it was a Roman attempt to rename Israel. Rome fell, and there never was a palestine. No Santa's workshop either.

you have the capability of seeing a wall where there is a door. Hamas knows Israel will retaliate, it knows more Palestinians will die as a result of these assassinations but this is what Hamas wants. This is how they manipulate their own people. Sick, isn't it?

It's ludicrous that Arabs even try to hide their commitment to violence by harping on 67 lines.

Tareq, can you explain to me why particularly "1967 borders" or borders in general should justify murdering civilians? (I'm pretty sure Israel "murders" Palistinian civilians non-intentionaly during operations targeting militants (aka terrorists)) BTW, who decided on those "borders" that should decide the fate of at least 4 lives? I'm guessing you're Muslim. Can you explain to me why Shiite Muslims and Sunni Muslims kill each other? Or why they do acts of terror against each other in the other sects' mosques? That doesn't happen between different Jewish sects.

It Is the truth and must be stand on it TThe Palestinian people's must be taken there Rights we are in first century Ashon

I really can't figure out what Hamas think they are doing. If, on the eve of peace talks they had killed soldiers I would have thought their actions stupid, but at least in the context of an ongoing occupation maybe defensible, but to murder civilians. Can someone please tell me what positive aim they hope to achieve? Or are all those people who say Hamas is only interested in murder correct.

For the sake of the Palestinian people. Otherwise, they will forever continue to live in squalor. This is a mentally misfit bunch, who would not hesitate to kill even their own family members.

Under international law, they have no right to be there.

gabe ,Jewish existence in the 1967 borders, are illegal and considered as occupiers and enemies of human No one justify the killing of civilians To learn that during the past two years killed more harm than 1600 Palestinians and only 13 Israeli And 1600 were poor civilians, though some of them carrying a weapon is to keep their children from being massacred by the terrorist Israeli army .

with the moral of the story being get back to within 1967 internationally recognized Israeli borders.

Please cite the international law that enjoins Israeli civilians against "being" there (and, by your logic, that justifies their brutal murder). Don't hold back; just do it.

not the usual faux proposals we have seen for the last twenty +years. In Israel where there is a will---there is a wall. Must be a zionist thing.

This is the same process that has gone on for 62 years. Slurs, fantasies, fables, and myths on both sides do not work. That is why responsible leaders on both sides need to negotiate. Who is sincere? Acts not hot air will be the test. Earl in Haifa

you can see christinans killing christians.That is how democracy and freedom to do the right or the wrong things. but you will never jews kill jews.

Its all a matter of semantics for you. A settler is not a civilian so therefore we can murder as many of them as we can. Can you please show me where it is allowed to murder under International Law. Murder is murder under any name "settler" or "civilian" . It is only permissible under Islam. You know the religion of peace.

Did you read what Zahar from Hamas said yesterday. No peace until the lands between the river and the sea are free of Jews. What dont you in your Jew hatred understand that Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Herzbollah and Iran will never ever agree to a peace with us until we are dead and gone. Must be an Islamic thing.

So Jake how do you explain all the killings of Israelis by the PLO (which was formed in 1964) before 1967. You are totally ignorant of anything to do with Israel and the M.E . I suggest you do some research before post your stupidity.

We took 8,000 rockets from Gaza. Must be a libero-fascist thing.