Hamas: Israel intent on wiping out Palestinian resistance

I have read Hamas' charter and seen their propaganda. They want nothing short of another holocaust. They are fighting a war of genocide. They are fascists, and nothing more.

And just what is Hamas guilty of by firing rockets indiscriminately into Israel for some 8 years and not giving a damn whom they kill or maime in the process?

"the house was most probably booby trapped as usual with Islamic terrorists" If it was, it would have taken out the IDF surrounding the house and their bulldozer...

"the IDF asked him to surrender. However Ali Sweiti`s response was to open fire on the IDF i.e Ali Sweiti iniated the fire fight" Do you honestly belive that? Bystands have said there was no shooting from inside the house and no calls from the IDF for him to surrender. The IDF have been shown to lie about these situations. Again, do you believe them? I do not, and I can say so without insulting you either...

Talking about the bad behavior of others does not excuse the bad behavior of Israel. Two wrongs have never made a right.

The article to which we both are posting is not concerned with either Iraq or Afghanistan. Neither is it concerned with Pakistan. Therefore I have no comment on those countries. Stick to the topic. Or is that too difficult to do?

"hamas is elected thus it has right to have a police force. nazis were elected they had a very powerful police force" Are you honestly equating Hamas with the Nazis? What a laugh that is.

...obviously his post was the best he can do. So what if there are a few ridiculous faults here and there...from beginning to end...particularly the end!

How do the usual mouths that preach at Israel,only,know the circumstances of this engagement?

the house was most probably booby trapped as usual with Islamic terrorists, so of it goes and good reddens.

another one who making comment with out reading the article.Just in case you decided to read it take a notice of the fact that he was told to come out but he decided to do a shoot out and die in the glory of Islamic martyr, gone to paradise to drink wine and play with virgins;)))jealous?

Thanks you made my day, we need here some good sense of humor;))))

First read the article before you make stupid comment.

reports that Suweiti's uncle stated that he ignored calls to surrender and the troops opened fire. Wrong choice!

If that's what Al Jazeera said, then it must be the absolute truth. Yawn.

Al jazeera reported that none of the neighbours heard any shooting, or demands to the suspect to come out of the house. As usual the IDF pretend at being soldiers by crushing people to death with bulldozers.

silvienne - you are wrong yet again, actually your lies are getting tiresome. If you had read the article and I believe you didn't, you would have read that the IDF asked him to surrender. However Ali Sweiti's response was to open fire on the IDF i.e Ali Sweiti iniated the fire fight and died as a result of his own decision. There was no extra judicial killing at all.

I don't see how Stephen is off-topic. If we want to judge someone's actions, we usually compare it to another's actions. If they're found to be similar, then it's just pure hypocrisy (something I'm sure you're very familiar with) to judge one as culpable and the other as justified. "Keep to the topic. We are speaking of one Hamas militant killed by Israel in an extra-judicial manner."

From your post, it seems the latter. Hamas lost a fighter in the true fashion. He died with his boots on. He fought against all odds, not to surrender, but to die as a martyr. For as many believe, paradise awaits him. The IDF could well have asked him to surrender. Since they did surround his house. You cannot force a man to surrender. Not if he is determined to die for a cause, which he and many like him consider a just cause. Since you have decided to play the terrorist part in this tragedy, we will oblige you. Keep on posting. Good night.

only by violence , but with No recognition or normalization. In the long run Israel cannot continue to dominate the area and its indigenous people. Israel is strong now , the it should assume its responsibility as an occupying power. Time is on the Arabs side. Only time will tell....

What about the Extra Judicial Killings by our own gov't with Predators and Hellfire missiles in Pakistan ? That doesn't seem to faze Silvienne. Only if Jews do it. She is a great fighter for "human rights" as long as Jews could be accused.

...obviously his post was a well considered opus of his.

And this my friends is called FAIR FIGHT between equals. The Bulldozer driver will be awarded the Medal of VALOR.

u say hamas is elected thus it has right to have a police force. nazis were elected they had a very powerful police force those states where elected have the police forces separate than state police is called a police state and fascism. are u a fascist? palestinians have police forces under PA. all other forces re illegitimate. especially when they kill a cop outside their operational territory.(i know u'll say isr in WB so i respond u before u ask. isr has occupier status under UN... therefore has to maintain order until borders re clear so has right to do operations there)

Silvienne. Tell me when the last Hamas militant, cornered by Israelis, gave up peacefully. My take is that the guy fired on the Israelis. Rather than giving up, a sign of weakness among his peers, he chose to die. And as far as the demolished home is concerned, had the militant thought about his family than the house would have still been standing. But among the militant type, Machoness and martyrdom usually take precedence to Everything...

ce. The real systematization of this decision dates back to the first inifada, at the end of the eighties. Actually the idea always existed even before, in the minds of people like Sharon but the real systematics were laid out in late eighties, beginning of nineties. The flag now of course in the hands of Bibi.

than the Hamas perp and they hadn't been given a chance to surrender ,the way the Hamas goon was. Now ,put your military commanders on trial for war crimes.Period.

"and this good fellow killed a cop, what did u expect roses" We did not expect "roses". We expected an arrest, a trial, and imprisonment. We did not expect the barbaric act of crushing a living man with a bulldozer.

is the enemy. and this good fellow killed a cop, what did u expect roses.

I live in America and am from London originally. As I wrote to Absolute Sweden, this article and Talkback does not concern itself with the dead of Afghanistan or Iraq. Keep to the topic. We are speaking of one Hamas militant killed by Israel in an extra-judicial manner.

"As usual his death was self inflicted, he chose to die rather than turn himself in to the Israeli`s." As usual we have only the IDF's version of what happened, and as usual it is the same old story they always use: he fired first. Do you believe the IDF when they have been known to lie? Do you believe this one man began to shoot at all the IDF soldiers surrounding his house? I don't. And demolishing his house is the usual Israeli collective punishment act because now his family is homeless.

I cannot but notice that you are posting from the United States of America. A great country. Wonderful people and true democracy. Lots of innovative folk as well. In G-d we Trust, so it is written on their dollar. So, Silvienne, how come your military, bombs civilian weddings,busloads of civilians,entire villages,schoolhouses, wow and those wonderful innovative folk aim all those Hellfire missiles from some underground bunker in AMERICA. Do you have any idea of the meaning of war? Thought not. You have no idea how many millions of civilians die in war.Do you.? That is why war is bad. The ones that start wars, must think of the consequences. History is full of war. Your own country, came about, through the War of Independence. Russia, China,India just to name a few more. Have a nice day....wherever you are.?

No, but I would expect a SWAT team to shoot me if I was firing on the police. Since I don't know what the set up was there...from a strategic point of view...it may have been the best way to avoid getting your guys hurt. So I have no problem with it. You write:"This is not the kind of behavior that is to be expected from a western-style democracy which is how Israel describes itself." Really! They surrounded his house, gave him a chance to walk out, he then began shooting at them. He was then killed while resisting arrest, that's how we do here in the U.S., so your upset because they bulldozed his house? Why? Nobody, not even Hamas denied his guilt in a premeditated murder. He got justice. As usual his death was self inflicted, he chose to die rather than turn himself in to the Israeli's.

What is wrong with this logic? Gulf#1 was a war. This was a suspected criminal that should have been to detained and put on trial then jailed at best. Ohlmet will probably never end up in court for the deaths of civilians in Lebanon who lived nowhere near Hezbollah's bases of operations. Should he and senior Israeli leaders be given their day in court or should some other country just choose to assassinate him by bulldozer next time he stays abroad in a hotel? Should the same courtesy be extended to other Israeli leaders accused of the same in Gaza? Israeli accused = judicial process, Palestinian accused = extra-judicial execution. It doesn't take rocket science to work out why your neighbours are hostile!

as you see he get killed after sixyears exactly ,after he murder the israeli police men

Cast Lead was infinitely preferable to the holocaust which Hamas would love to perpetrate against Israel and which you seem to support. "Oh and Cast Lead was a disaster for Israel both morally and strategically, so go figure."

"I see nothing wrong with crushing the guy with a bulldozer, especially if it avoids getting your guys hurt. Why everyone here is making such a fuss is bizarre" This is not the kind of behavior that is to be expected from a western-style democracy which is how Israel describes itself. If you were wanted for murder in Georgia, would you expect to be demolished, along with your house, by a bulldozer?

"The terrorists kill their own, in schools,mosques and souks. Even whether they are children, its all the same to them" Like the IDF and IAF killed Palestinian children during Operation Cast Lead? A lot of them, too...

...absolutely nothing about Jihad. That is obvious. Islamic terrorists do NOT SURRENDER. They fight until death. That is called MARTYRDOM. They become local HEROES to the populace. Try to get a grip, this is not some Gentleman's Club in London, where honor,decency,dignity and family values are required. The terrorists kill their own, in schools,mosques and souks. Even whether they are children, its all the same to them. Surely you saw the Underground bombings in London, how many Muslims died, yes, on your home turf. Good day.

So are bus bombings. Anything that targets civilians or civilian infrastructure. So that would probably include big bits of Cast Lead. Your trouble, Brian, is that you can't seem to understand that there are people who hate ALL people who target civilians whether they're Jewish killers or Arab killers. I'm no fan of Mr. Sweiti here. He's probably not a very nice person. However, the crime he was wanted for is killing a border cop which is marginally better than killing civilians. It's also uncivilised and counter-productive to kill him like this rather than arrest him. Oh and Cast Lead was a disaster for Israel both morally and strategically, so go figure. p.s. What's with the Monty Python reference when you are zero per cent funny?

Not much good at reading, are you, Absolute Sweden? This article discusses with a single Hamas militant and his death at the hands of Israel. Just to let you know, as you clearly don't, the article is not concerned with either Iraq or Afghanistan, England or America. People who change the subject of the debate constantly, as you do, and bring in irrelevance, as you do, are trying to deflect attention away from Israel's criminal act.

One less mass murderer loose is good news.

I see you are a fellow Monty Python fan... "Does Hamas have a "police force"? Is it legitimate?" Hamas is the elected government of Gaza, so of course its police force is legitimate. Is the IDF legitimate???!!

What would you do if your child was on bus blown up. What would you do if cild was in market blown up. Let some of the parents that lost child in iN Israel Spain Egland Usa deAL WITH HAMAS AND PEACEFUL RELIGIIN

s of Iraq soldiers alive during the Golf 1. When encountering trenches full of Iraqi soldiers ,Brits and Americans were sending tanks not across the trenches but alongside and on the top ,zigzaging and burying everything below alive. Israelis asked the perp to surrender ,no such grace had been granted to the hapless Iraqi conscripts

Gosh, Michael. How did you manage to not comment on the content of my talkback at all? You missed the fact about Hamas war crimes? Did you not read the Goldstone report that concluded Hamas committed war crimes? What about the Amnesty and HRW reports that pre-dated Cast Lead by years and concluded the same thing? So let's talk about "Hamas police recruits". Is there such a thing? Does Hamas have a "police force"? Is it legitimate? Does it keep the peace, or are these same "policemen" akin to their Fatah compatriots, many of whom are complicit in terrorism? Please do tell us how you can tell the difference. Did you send letters to Hamas before Cast Lead calling on them to stop their war crimes and enter peace talks with Israel? Do tell...

It is unlikely that Hamas could accept all of the changes required to be a partner in a peace deal. Fatah probably can. It would be much easier for both sides if Hamas disappeared.

It's a bit medieval isn't it. I bet you're the first to complain about Islamists stoning people to death, but this isn't much different really. Sort of hi-tech 21st century stoning. Out of interest, why do you think they didn't bother making a serous attempt to capture this guy? I mean they wouldn't bulldoze a house on top of a Jew wanted for murder would they?

"No , Lovely story !" We all know how expert Israel is at killing, but don't you see that however many Palestinians Israel kills, it is not a lasting solution? There will always be more to take their places in resisting the occupation of the West Bank and the seige of Gaza. Israel will become nothing more than a killing machine...

...and why was the house demolished?

I laughed when I read that headline. OF COURSE Israel is trying to wipe out Palestinian terrorism (that the other side calls "resistance"). Did Hamas receive this revelation just now???

Your parents did a bad job of raising you kid.

Is there an IDF policy to execute prisoners? You mean Terrorist murderers ? I hope so .

On the pages of Haaretz ? That would not be (left) politically correct ! A sugar-coated terrorist is the only right way to portray them , according to Haaretz .

If so, I expect you'll have been horrified by the IAF slaughtering tens of young Hamas police recruits on the first day of Cast Lead. I haven't noticed your complaints about that on this site, though. I expect I just missed them somewhere, eh?

No , Lovely story !

I do not advocate the crushing or wiping out of Hamas. But Hamas, in my opinion, has done nothing toward creating an environment in which peace could take root. On the contrary, they have derailed every possible plan toward peace in the region. Were it not for the resistance of Hamas, and other militant groups, than Peace could have been achieved long ago. Let them step up to the plate and actively work toward peace that many peace loving Palestinians yearn for.

What they should have done is send in one IDF of similar stature and age for a duel to the death, armed only with his bare hands. Just like in Dinseyland. After all he was only wanted for Murder and this is what they would have done in the USA, Russia, UK, China etc...Isn't it??

What a bunch of whiny hypocrites! Zeidan, Absolute Sweden, Miggy, Tzipi and the rest of the whining, anti-Israel phonies out there. Hamas has a POLICY of murdering Israeli civilians, and none of you gives a damn. They have butchered hundreds of innocent men, women and children in cold blood, yet you never call for a war crimes trial or demanded a boycott. What a bunch of two-faced liars you all are, pretending that you're weeping over a human rights violation. Liars. Your silence in the factual evidence of war crimes by Palestinians leaves you exposed. "... the report contains the clearest finding that Hamas and other militant Palestinian groups committed serious war crimes and possibly crimes against humanity. The acceptance of those findings by the Human Rights Council and the General Assembly has been ignored completely..." Richard Goldstone, Interviewed by Ha'aretz, Nov 13 2009

is hamas palying stupid or they pretend to be stupid? If hamas thinks that Israel enjoys having deadly, murderous hamas next to its boarders then they are kidding themselves...

Looks like him nice mustache

The guy was at minimum a murder suspect, he was offered a chance to surrender. What more can anyone do? He chose to start shooting and it's not unusual that the criminal lose that battle. The point is not to get your own guys hurt! I see nothing wrong with crushing the guy with a bulldozer, especially if it avoids getting your guys hurt. Why everyone here is making such a fuss is bizarre.

The IDF suddenly seems to have got remarkably incompetent at taking prisoners. Wanted Palestinians seem to die rather regularly these days. It says here Sweiti refused calls to surrender. Do we have any evidence such calls were made? If the call were made and Sweiti had tried to surreder, I wonder what the chances are that he'd actually have survived. We all remember the Bus 300 incident after all.

They couldn't get him out..so ofcourse they crashed the house onto him...so brave of those soldiers..so why bother send those troops for military training?! Just send them for CAT Driving schools..that's more than sufficient.

"What`s wrong with arresting militants?" Would be nice to see him included in Shalit deal so he can kill again,wouldn't it. Consider this: What's wrong with arresting Border Policeman Cpl. Yaniv Mashiah instead of killing him?

i.e. bulldozed their house on top of them.

he was killed during the exchange of gunfire. He was found dead and then the house was demolished.

If we take those happenings as crimes, there should be a procedure. If we take them as war, there is no reason for a personal justification. Lets take them as war and Hamas is perfectly right.

"Or is this the standard formula for justifying the assassination of a Hamas militant?"(sh) no, but being a Hamas militant he met IDF militants and as it is the nature of oposing militants to exchange, sometimes, military salutation he, in this sad case, met his creator, thus completly fulfiling his mission as militant. "What`s wrong with arresting militants?" (sh) no, nothing is wrong. next time the IDF militants will bring cakes and icecream and they will have a modest "hafla"* together and finally the hamas militant will turn himself in while performing a piece of a friendly belly dance. (*we may assume that you know what "hafla" is? and, as the Hamas are so miserable, it is not expected of then to bring anything to the said hafla).

No matter where you are in the world, people who kill cops tend to die rather than be captured. Policemen are funny that way.

Let it be clear that I am no apologist for current standard procedures by either the US Army or ZAHAL. In the case of Afghanistan, more precisely Kandahar, groups of elite Special Forces have been operating now for many weeks, seeking out Taliban leadership, then making sure that they are eliminated. Its quite contentious, since so many new leaders are poised to take over. The question is, "Do the Americans plan to kill all top members of the Taliban"? So it may seem. Obviously the upcoming battle for Kandahar will either make or break Washington's new strategy. In Israel, no doubt, the strategy works, then again ZAHAL is not out to win the hearts and minds of Hamas. Just a matter of keeping Israel safe. Again, Israel fights at home. Whilst the US fights as usual, in some rotten and corrupt country, propping up devious and may I repeat extremely corrupt governments. The Hamas leadership has been fractured once again. Good day.

Israel, why did you do that...? Regards, Antoine GED

Yes we will let 1000 palestinian out and then we will have our IDF open hunting season

Or is this the standard formula for justifying the assassination of a Hamas militant? There seem to be an awful lot of top militants. Maybe their tops are broader than ours? Lucky he was crushed when they demolished his house. How he was killed is probably going to be much harder to determine. What's wrong with arresting militants?

he was a freedom fighter who met other freedom fighters, from the other side, that were more lucky. when you live by the sword be ready to die by it, and when life is taken a house has no meaning.

-d together with the house. Remember you need martyrs,demolished houses and uprooted trees as well.

Sounds like another case of Israeli troops murdering their target - and why was the house demolished? What purpose does that serve?