Gaza flotilla organizer: We'll send convoys to Gaza on land
Head of IHH, Turkish activist group behind recent aid flotilla that tried to reach Gaza, promises 'surprises' to be revealed soon.
By Haaretz Service Tags: Gaza flotilla TurkeyThe Turkish activist organization IHH that organized a flotilla of aid ships bound for Gaza in May announced on Saturday that the group will continue efforts to bring supplies to Gaza, not only by sea, but "land convoys will head for Gaza" as well, Channel 2 reported.
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Activists from pro-Islamic Turkish aid organization IHH aboard Gaza-bound aid ship |
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On May 31, Israeli Navy commandos boarded one of the flotilla ships, occupied mainly by IHH activists, in efforts to prevent the ship from reaching Gaza in violation of an Israeli naval blockade. Aboard the ship, the commandos were met with violence and a clash ensued, resulting in the deaths of 9 Turkish activists.
IHH leader Bulent Yildirim, speaking at an Istanbul conference attended by Muslim activists and litigators, said that "more flotillas will head to Gaza in the coming months, and additional convoys by land. This, together with many more surprises that we will reveal soon," Channel 2 reported.
"Zionist public relations are very powerful, and we must act accordingly," he added.
Following the deadly raid on the Turkish ship Mavi Marmara, Israel decided to ease the conditions of a three-year blockade on Gaza. Israel imposed the siege in 2007 after the Islamist group Hamas took control over the Gaza Strip in a violent coup. Though some restrictions have been lifted recently, Israel decided to maintain the naval blockade on the territory.
Last month, the IHH leader told an Arabic-language newspaper that "all the families of the martyrs from the first flotilla wish to take part in the next voyage."
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The Turkish government is aware of the radical activities of the flotilla and did grant permission to them to engage the Israelis navy commando. Turkey has to decide if she wants to be a friend or an enemy of Israel. Israel must continue to enforce the blockade comes what may…….gooooooooo Israel goooo Jackson flomo Monrovia, Liberia
in Turkey, many people did not know even the name of IHH. Today, all the world is aware of them. If someone wants to bother Israel, it is enough to plan an aid convoy. This is really embarassing for Israel. Extreme-right Israeli government is very succesful to harm Israel with its wrong policies.
as u can see, israel doesnt feel terribly bopthered or frightened by the so-called aid flotillas. i think, even the dumbest person in the world understands now that israel will not let any of these ships park in gaza. it will be embarassing to see their ships being sent to egypt or ashdod. it will be embarassing
Don't blame Israel because Egypt is capable of identifying threats to itself.
If Turkish government would do a favor to itself and spend more time on the real issues Turkey is facing such as a great exchange deficit, poverty due to unfair distribution of wealth, bribery, and corruption, PKK terrorism. instead of Israel and Gaza it would be much better for both countries.
http://www.jpost.com/SpecialSection/Article.aspx?id=181187
Here is a quote from Haaretz: "Despite sharing the name, the German IHH has no connection to the Turkish group that organized the flotilla to break the naval blockade. " Here is a link to the article: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/germany-outlaws-charity-over-alleged-hamas-links-1.301483
The German Internationale Humanitäre Hilfsorganisation is unrelated to the Turkish İnsan Hak ve Hürriyetleri - they just have the sane abbreviation.
We deported the Jews from Gaza (including the ones borne there), because it was obvious if they remained in Gaza they would be killed by the Palestinians. After we left, there was hope, and no siege whatsoever. To our surprise, Gaza Palestinians, freely and without any coercion, elected Hamas - which officially declares he plans to kill all Jews in Israel. (elections were democratic except that Fatah supporters were shot in the knees or thrown from the roof - "depending how tall is their building"). Then Sderot was bombed for 7 years. And Shalit was kidnapped, and for 4 years he had no visit whatsoever. We implored the world to talk to Hamas to stop the shelling of Sderot, with no success. Do any of you peace lovers, have any suggestion about an alternative course of action we could take, beside the "cast lead" operation and the siege? Now Shalit is still there, without red cross visits, but at least the bombing we had is over. I am truly sorry for the dead Palestinians in Gaza. I have a dream in which I think maybe Gaza Palestinians oppose bombing Israel and accept living side by side with us. But the reality is that they elected Hamas on their own will, and they supported all his actions.
We in the IDF are bored of shooting at paper targets, and since you in the IHH have an abundance of brainwashed suicide loving maniacs willing to come to OUR land and make trouble in hopes of dying....we can make a compromise, you send them alive wanting to die, by sea air or land, and we will send them back in boxes. That way we let them have their way! DEAL?
Turkey = loser...
Too bad. There are so many good people in Turkey! And so many good people in Iran! And all of them will become "patriotic" against Jews.... and out, completely, of the Western ethos. Well, we'll overcome this too....
Foodstuffs can be more easily transferred to the Gazans by land. But it's clear that the ultimate aim of the flotillas is for the blockade to be lifted, while at the same time to have a political win of Israel. Israel just doesn't have the financial resources, diplomatic support and manpower to continue to manage these flotillas, particularly if larger ones were to set sail -- and as a combination of those three elements, cannot rely on military means. From now on the worst thing Israel can do is to encroach any future vessels, in international waters. Provocation or not, so far the flotilla organizers are winning spectacularly, make no mistake.
to brake Gaza blockade will be stopped by Israeli Navy. Goods can be unloaded in Ashdod or in Egypt. Looks like Turkey wants to provoke Israel and to be seen as the bad guy. Israel stand firm. Shalom from Holland
Libyan Gaza aid ship is part of succession intrigue in Tripoli. Since Libyan ruler Muammar Qaddafi, 68, picked Moatassem-Billah, son number four, to succeed him upon his retirement in three years, his eldest son, Seif al-Islam, has schemed tirelessly to stay in the limelight and avoid being passed over as future potentate of this oil- and gas-rich nation. Seif's latest dodge, according to DEBKAfile's intelligence sources, is the privately-launched Al-Amal (MV Almathea) for breaking Israel's naval blockade on the Gaza Strip. Awaited by the Israeli Navy Tuesday or Wednesday, Tripoli has officially disavowed the venture. His father, still on top of the palace intrigue in Tripoli, tried to put a crimp on Seif's game. Sunday, July 11, he suddenly banned the departure of private and chartered aircraft from Libyan airfields for Egypt, Greece, Crete or Cyprus, to make sure his ambitious son would not be able to join the ship and star in a political and propaganda triumph that would beat out his brother's chances in the succession stakes. An official spokesman in Tripoli made it clear on Monday, July 12, that Seif al-Islam is on his own: "Libya does not wish to intervene and believes the aid ship to Gaza conceals an adventure and a risk," he said. Seif saw his chance of cashing in on the international uproar by staging a stunt for leapfrogging his claim to the succession over that of his brother, one moreover, which the Libyan leader could not publicly thwart or condemn. But Muammar Qaddafi has done what he could to throw a spanner into Seif's plan. Prevented from launching Al Amal from a Libyan port, he had to relocate its point of departure to a Greek port and obstacles place in the path of his joining the expedition. So when the ship is intercepted by the Israel navy, Muammar and his chosen successor will be quietly celebrating
aha,so it is becoming like sports for them. the gazans do not matter at all, all that maters is provoking israel and playing hide and seek. it will end badly ( for the turks) and the international community will not like it sincen it is clearly not about humanitarian aid .
open up your mind and read more...there are so many ignorant people like you..that's why our world has never be in peace forever
... and we all know what "peace forever" translates to in arabic, right?
no, u r the ignorant. i actually recognize what the whole turkish flotilla sport is about. certainly not about humanitarian aid.
So far, Israel has decided to allow into Gaza all items except those fit for military use. What remains of the "siege" is not allowing the Export of finished goods even if raw materials can come in, as well as the prevention of movement of Gazans in and out of that territory (irrespective of security considerations). The inability to export essentially destroys the Gaza economy, rendering the population destitute and in need of food relief. With exports, the Gazans will not be in need of relief and all future "flotillas" will become pointless. Here is a good way to end the "flotillas", just lift the rest of the "siege". And here is another reason: a legal opinion (by the UN's Human Rights Council): "The [Goldstone] Report states that Israeli acts that deprive Palestinians in the Gaza Strip of their means of subsistence, employment, housing and water, that deny their freedom of movement and their right to leave and enter their own country, that limit their rights to access a court of law and an effective remedy, could lead a competent court to find that the crime of persecution, a crime against humanity, has been committed"- unhchr.ch/huricane/huricane.nsf/0/9B63490FFCBE44E5C1257632004EA67B?opendocument . In any event, the prevention of ships going into Gaza is justified by security concerns. The ports of Ashdod (Israel) and El-Arish (Egypt) are near the Gaza strip and should be used instead.
But a day will come these flotillas will disapear he minute it begins Wasted effort and agravation for them. Just sent a post on the real issue of how Gaddafi thought about his son's folly who's ambition is to become the leader after Lybya's Gaddafi retires and wants NOT the eldest son to succeding but his favored YOUNGEST. He even told Saif to get out form the country and DON'T come back. if my post gets posted you'll ne able to read it. Failing tis go to DEBKA and wole story is there among others.Logios why try so hard for the imposible ha?
Lieberman proposed to open the naval way to Gaza so that the Gazans could take in and out whatever they like. Israel for its part would seal its border to Gaza out of security reasons. Well, guess, who is against this proposal? First of all the Palestinians themselves (Fatah has rejected it). And also European countries which recently demanded an end of the blockade (first of all Germany). You wonder? Well, one should should stop wondering when it comes to politics!
lifting of the blockade. Israel could have done this all on their own without seeking approval from other countries. Instead, he proposed that some other nation or entity should take over reponsibility from Israel of inspection of all goods coming in and out and only allow what Israel thinks should be allowed. That is why Lieberman was seeking international approval.
"Aboard the ship, the commandos were met with violence and a clash ensued, resulting in the deaths of 9 Turkish activists.' The fully armed commandos, illegally boarding the ship in international waters, expected rose petals to be thrown at them in appreciation of their unexpected but most welcome presence. Since this was not the case 9 civilians perished because of this most inappropriate behavior.
8 out of the 9 people that died on the ship were IHH members (terrorists, not activists) Most of the real activists were send below deck by the IHH when the idf commando's arrived. They were playing with the army of a country which is facing a constant threat... They knew what was going to happen. The commando's didn't know that they were gonna be attacked once on board, which explained why most of them had paintball guns. These are all well known facts, and the international community also knows this, you should try to stay up to date.
Like a dog with a bone will not let go.Shows how he cannot accept HE LOST THE PLOT. Since the US has put the IHH on a list of terror Erdogan still persisting.He will once agan lose the PLOT,matters not if he loses again.He has become a proper islamist to end all the Islamists he is associating with(fool).
We are not Israel and even if our prime minister says "Dont go you might get killed (which he said before)" people will continue to go and will willingly die. Fyi we are not afraid of death we will continue to come and come and come and come till you leave your stolen lands. Period. Doesnt matter if you have nukes army newspapers what ever, PEOPLE are organising these things not goverment. 80 million population you are talking about and hundreds of organizations most of them with the aim of aid for the needed. Bringin food to the prison is 1 think, tearing apart that prison is something else. If you destroy the prison no one will need to bring food they are not your dogs or slaves. Untill you realize you cannot live there in your so called Kingdom of Israel (once you were saying we just want piece ooh hh christians are killing us we just want a hoome pleasee UK, Ottomans give us land) . Today you have proven what kind of people you are indepth once you had the opportunity. God does not care about you you are not chosen, goodluck with dealing with that.
great stuff
You really still believe that there's starting in gaza? Here's a palestinian news site, showing pics of the Gazans preparing for the sugarfest late 2009, after the Ramadan. Then tell me if you still believe in the bs that Hamas wants the world to believe: http://www.paltoday.ps/arabic/News-64161.html
or in th eoutskirts of Istanbul, Izmir, in th eeast of Turkey Urfa mardin, Maras, hakkari Van etc.
Why not a Berlin type air lift?
Oh yes I too saw the pictures with all the nice goodies on display.The place was humming with joy aplenty. "pallywod exercise" as usual. I will however,still try and ejoy seeing it. Thanks for the link (if it works that is) Sometimes when I trough Google it does not work.Why I know not. Here I go>
The Gazans have mastered the Art of shapeshifting and although they may appear to the untrained eye to be mostly overweight, they are in fact starving. The distribution of bubble gum is preventing the people from completely disappearing.
better send Lindsey Lohan to Gaza.
The situation of Gaza and his help by many organisations like IHH reminds me of the Berlin-blockade of 1948, where Berliners had also been blockaded by the Soviet army forces. But then the West-allied airforces helped Berlin by bringing food and other necessacities of daily life. 9 months later the blockade had been removed because it proved as useless. Berliners could not been brought to their knees. And so do the Gaza-people.
Amused. Something tells me they didn't threaten soviet cities with missiles so your example is completely invalid. Good try though.
... launching Rockets into the Soviet occupied Sector??? Kidnapping russian soldiers, bombing civilians??? It looks like I missed s.th. in History
... they use the blockade as a pretext... a great pity that they defile a good cause...
And take a look at what's going on in Gaza. There's no misery as there was in Berlin!
are being deprived , that is not useless to the people of Israel, who suffered thousands of rockets. the soviets on the other hand moved the world to the brink another world war.this is only Gaza and Hamas.
If you compare the two situations, they would only be the same if the American wouldn't let people out of east Berlin. This wasn't necessary cause east Berlin wasn't firering rockets on west berlin, nor sending suicide bombers into west berlin. The situations are not compareble at all.
They're deprived on account they are DEPRAVED.More to the point.
Perhaps it is Turkey the one to get 'surprises' as it seems to be up to now... because one doesn't play around with a Nation little as it may be but overflowing with 'Einsteins' and 'Robert Oppenhemier's', and not get bitten . Remember Israel has a Navy too ... Is this just another 'new idea' ? because Hamas never runs out of them.....
with Bayezits and Fatihs and Kanunis and Yavuz Selims and Abdulhamits.
I wouldn't advise getting into a conflict with Turkey! Israel would experience how real fighters fight. Just ask any WW11 American veteran who fought with them. There tough as hell.
Turkey was neutral in WW2. No American Vets of WW2 fought with them. My father in law was in the Turkish army during that time. He was tough as hell too, but neutral
... their agenda is way beyond ...
and knife brigade
Aside from Israel, France and Germany rate the IHH as a terrorist organisation, so Egypt will now have to block the IHH from shipping any goods and services by land or sea, to Gaza Strip, or Israel will have to secure the Gaza Strip-Egytpian border. In addition, Israel should protest the cooperation of Turkey with the IHH at the UN, if for no better reason than to establish a legal basis from which to confront Turkey whenever the inevitable confrontation occurs.
The IHH in Germany is not connected to IHH in Turkey. France does not rate the IHH as a terrorist organization either, nor does the US. You are spreading propaganda.
These are Turks folks and not Arabs. This country fought with america in the Korean war, a war we did not see the IDF in. They are also in Afghanstan. If you think Turks are as easy as Arabs then you are in denial. Ask the men that were saved by the Turks at the Battle of Kunuri in North Korea. The Americans of the second division to a man thank the bravery of the Turks that saved them from being wiped out. I would think twice in tackling the Turks.
TURKISH SOLDIERS ARE BRAVE BEROES WHO KNOW HOW TO DIE. THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO TRIUMPH IN WAR. FOR ABOUT TWO HUNDRED YUEARS THEY HAVE WON SEVERAL BATTLES AND LOST ALL THE WARS !!!!! THE GREAT STATESMAN AND FOUNDER OF MODERS TURKEY, ATAURK HAS WON ONY ONE BATTLE IN GALLIPOLI, WHILE HIS ARMY LST WWI. TURKS DO NOT LIKE TO BE REMEMBER THAT ATATURK, WHOM I ADMORE AS ONE OF THE GREATEST STATESMEN OF THE LAST CENTURY, LOST PALESTINE TO ALLENBY IN WWI !!!!! THINK ABOUT THAT,
Yes and true.But that was then,now it is a different kettle of fish.Not the same Turkey of passed times don't ya think? Now with Erdogan and clique they have become just like proper JIHADISTS..
Is not of the glorious time of Ataturk but the jihadist Erdogan and his followers. Once you vote him out in the elections you will be able to return to normalcy.
how come it has taken 600 years for europe to defeat the turkish empire and get rid of the ottomans from europe.
May God bring justice .. and annihilate injustice .. Inshallah Ameen .
and anihilate terrorism from the hearts of those who wish to believe they act on his behalf . Amen
When Hamas is dismantled and the rockets launched at our cities cease.
because Turkey has some very strange ideas .....
I'm not blessing any of you who use violence to achieve your goals. I've had it up to here with fools invoking my name for their causes. Kill yourselves all you want but leave me out of it!
But not nearly as strange as Israel's views on justice/injustice. As an example, Nazi Germany perecuted Jews during the 30's and 40's. So therefore, Israel has the right to persecute Pals during the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's, and 2010's? Sounds like a strange and racist and terroristic idea to me. I would be more sympathetic if Israel demanded a portion of Germany for a homeland, as reparations for what the Nazi's did. But the poor Pals are not the ones that oppressed the Jews. So what gives Israel the right to opress them?
ihh DOES NOT WANT TO LOSE TEH MEDIA SPOTLIGHT AND HOPES FOR ANOTHER CONFROMNTATION. lETS SEE NOW. oCEAN BLOCKADE RUNNING IS A NON STARTER . cANT GET GOOD IN BY LAND EXCEPT THROUGH EGYPT. nOT MANY OPTIONS. tUIRKEY ON TEH OTHER HAND IS COMPLICIT INN TEH LAST ONE AND ANY FLOTILLA LEAVING tURKEY NOW WOULD BE tURKLEYS RESPONSIBILITY. sEEMS BETWEEN ihh AND tURKEY, THEY ARE SPOILING FOR A FIGHT. iF iSRAEL BOARDS A ihh SHIP AGAIN AND THERE IS VIOLENCE, hIZBULLAH HAS PROMISED TRO RESPOND. tURKEY IS CLEARLY LOOKING FOR A MIDEAST WAR TO BE STARTED . ERDOGAN NEEDS VOTES BADLY FOR HIS LOOMING ELECTION
How else can they compete with the Israeli media blitz? They are not spoiling for a fight, they are fighting to end the blockade. This is not difficult to understand.
Because they tried and in such a terroristic way and lost. They now think they will win? Not a chance,but to cause more problems for all,including themselves. Foolishness and bullying.
By land they will not have a great time and by sea, well, we all know what they are now= so intercepting is easy. No one is worrying their head of at this
If they really want to become Shaheeds,so badly, then well why should we deprive them?
my god this is gonna give us all some sleepless nights
Wouldn't take it seriously.
From hizballah et al? Personally speaking I shall sleep like a good BABY.Soundly too.
God bless you all ...
Indeed they're heroes defending their land from terrorists and missiles directed at cities.