For first time in nine months, Israel razes Palestinian homes in East Jerusalem
Municipality says structures were not homes but witnesses report Palestinian family removing belongings.
By Nir Hasson, Natasha Mozgovaya and News Agencies Tags: Israel news East JerusalemIsrael razed on Tuesday an inhabited Palestinian home in East Jerusalem for the first time in eight months, effectively ending an unofficial freeze of such internationally condemned demolitions.
A Reuters photographer witnessed a Palestinian family removing its belongings from the house in East Jerusalem's Beit Hanina neighborhood before an Israeli excavator tore into the dwelling.
"They can build hundreds of settlements but I'm not entitled to live in a shack?" asked Linda al-Rajabi outside the demolished dwelling she shared with her husband and their five children.
Israel's Jerusalem municipality said the home was built without a city permit.
The demolition seemed certain to draw a new wave of international criticism of Israeli policy toward Palestinians in East Jerusalem, an area captured in the 1967 Six-Day War and annexed by Israel in a move that has not won international recognition.
The dwelling was razed a week after Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu held White House talks with U.S. President Barack Obama to patch up relations strained by Israeli settlement policy in East Jerusalem and the West Bank.
Netanyahu promised Obama "concrete steps" - confidence-building measures - within weeks to try to coax the Palestinians back into direct peace negotiations.
Washington has publicly urged Israel not to demolish Palestinian homes built without permits. Palestinians, who want East Jerusalem as the capital of a future state in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, say it is impossible to obtain construction approval from Israeli authorities.
"The United States has made clear that it disagrees with some Government of Israel actions in Jerusalem that affect Palestinians in areas such as housing, including home demolitions, and has urged all parties to avoid actions that could undermine trust," a U.S. official said in response to the demolition.
"This underscores the need for a permanent status agreement that resolves all outstanding issues between the parties, including Jerusalem, and which results in a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict," the official said.
Israel had refrained from implementing demolition orders since November in the politically sensitive Jerusalem area, after U.S. pressure not to take steps that could jeopardize peace talks with the Palestinians.
Netanyahu intervened several months ago to postpone city plans to demolish about 20 homes in another part of East Jerusalem, where the Israeli municipality is planning a new housing project.
Earlier on Tuesday, Israel razed two unfinished Palestinian homes and part of a factory in East Jerusalem.
Dozens of armed border police guarded an excavator as it tore apart the foundations of the cement structures in the Issawiya section of East Jerusalem. There was no violence, a police spokesman said.
Palestinian resident Basem Isawi, 48, an unemployed contractor, said one of the structures was his own unfinished home. He built it illegally, he said, spending about $25,000, because he knew the municipality would not give him a permit.
He had been notified of the impending demolition but did not know when it was slated to happen, he said.
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The East Jerusalem neighborhood of Silwan |
| Photo by: Emil Salman |
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If this is not Ethnic Racist Cleansing, backed by one race feeling of supremacy; then I don't know apples from sqwuat. Israel can not keep telling us, they are a democracy and a peace loving nation surrounded by hostile neighbors, turn around and practice racism and ethnic cleansing.
How do these home demolitions differ from the stories we are reminded of daily, of the other Nazis evicting Jews, simply because they were Jews, and "fencing" that stolen property to their own? Where are the innumerable, very successful "claims conferences" for property stolen from the Palestinians. Fathomless, nauseating double standard!
In a photo of the Israelis commandos entering the "relief ship to Gaza" they obliterated the knives and clubs of the passengers.
Same thing happened in Toronto- my neighbour built a place without a permit and the city tore it down. Why is this so outrageous?
For all those apologetics, I just cannot wrap my mind on how in the name of humanity and decency you can defend these policies and in general those of the Israeli government. It has been documented numerously by all kinds of organizations, may they be Israeli or international that the Palestinians are not given any chance at a decent life because of all the meddling, occupation, torture, harassment, murder, massacres and the long list goes on. You have to understand that this cannot and will not continue. The world's opinion is changing and whether you will choose to hear it or not, it will mean a drastic change in the middle east, good or bad. It is time to stand up for what is right in the present and not stick with ancient so-called claims to a land that has been inhabited by all kinds of peoples for over thousands of years. God may have given you the land, but that does not reserve the right to throw everybody else out and certainly not to kill innocent people! Shalom.
Let's get real. Does any one beleve there will be any sort of Palestinian state. I have finished reading Jonathon Cooks, Disappearing Palestine and frankly the land of Greater Israel looks like the future,with the help of America who now snuggles up to Israel, It is now Israel who cracks the whip and teaches the Americans a few Machiavellian tricks. SO WHAT HOPE FOR PALESTINE??? The parallel
1 week in the life of israel demolish pals homes ban women for praying ban student for travelling kill pal women on border approve illegal development in east j cancel mps rights
Raising is better than razing.
This is a good start, all housing built without a permit needs to be removed.
Jerusalem (all of it) belongs to the JEWS and nobody else !!
They are clinging on to the two state solution to protect their title and income.
Whether it is a Palestinian home or a Jewish home, if the home was built without a planning or a city permit, then the M ayor of the city or the Council has the legal right to order a demolition. This is a universal well known fact. . It is not a political matter
Whether it is a Palestinian home or a Jewish home, if the home was built without a planning or a city permit, then the M ayor of the city or the Council has the legal right to order a demolition. This is a universal well known fact. . It is not a political matter
There is no 'East Jerusalem"----only Jerusalem and this should not be negotiable.
Israel should stop any encouragement that pals are liable to get anything off Jewish Land. So-called newly invented palestinians can go to Jordan and settle there. They will never be a part of Jewish Land called Israel. They are Jordanians... Faster they will get it into their minds easier it will be for them to join their brothers in islamic countries..
everyone wants a house in Jerusalem
This report suggests that 2 unfinished homes, an industrial building AND an occupied “shack” (home) were demolished. There was no shack. There was no occupants. The “Palestinian family removing its belongings from the house” were construction workers removing construction materials from the unfinished and unoccupied structure before demolition............When can we get honest reporting from leftists?
You should not have done that. ... Nine months to create life .... or death. Not Shalom this time !
Raising is better than razing.
And this according to whom, the Israeli government or the Palestinians whose houses have been demolished over the past 9 months?
To me it looks like a big slum. It was built in a haphazard diorganized way. Perhaps because most of it was built illegaly. They should demolish all of it a rebuild it again
Even if you had one, you'd just turn on each other as is evident today. You'll get a state when your love for your children is greater than your hatred for the Jews. Justice and righteousness will always prevail and Israel will stay. The sooner you recognize this fact, the sooner it would be better for both of us.
Maybe you don't realizes that Israel can and will draw a line in the sand and say to you this is mine and this is yours, if you and your pal friends don't start to play ball. We offered you a country 6 times including east Jerusalem in 2008, yall said no way. So this is your last chance. Start to play ball of else we will play ball for you and leave the westbank to Hammas like we left Gaza. And we all know how well that turned out.
This has nothing to do with bibi and yet you made it so. In u.s when a city and a local court are involved in a demolition do you think the u.s president has any say. The court ordered them demolished. Jewish homes get demolished too but the press doesn't say anything. We are talking about a few homes a year and yet the leftists rise up and scream conspiracy.
does not count. No matter how much zio apologists whine about it.
"Jewish homes" might get demolished, but their owners have rights and passports. Many more "Arab homes" are demolished than a few a year, we are definitely not talking about a few a year. Take a look at the demolition orders pending in Jerusalem alone. There are more than a few scheduled for Dahmash alone, which is an "unrecognized village" wedged between Lod and Ramleh, within the Green Line.
This Israeli court has no authority to seize property from anyone in East Jerusalem. There is no eminent domain on occupied land. The opposite is true. International law forbids the seizure of property in occupied areas and it forbids the expansion of borders into occupied land. But, it's useless to argue law with Israel. Israel always finds a justification for breaking the law, again, and again, and again.
First of all, Israel has no right to rule over east Jerusalem, second of all the Beit Yonatan building is a prime example of an illegal Jewish structure that has been ordered to be evacuated 2.5 years ago, but has never been touched. Its an apartheid in occupied territories
and we are talking about someone occupying other peoples land which even the U.N denounces, so tell me again why the U.N evolved.
"It was court ordered" Israeli law does not apply in Israeli-occupied territory, and continuing to play "let's pretend" does not change that fact. ", jewish homes get demolished too" No, not according to the OTHER article in Haaretz, where the police are simply refusing to carry out a court order against settlers. "and it involved the municipality" Again, the extension of Israeli law and Israeli civil authority to Israeli-occupied territory is illegal i.e. Barkat's "authority" over East Jerusalem has no legal standing.
This has nothing to do with bibi and yet you made it so. In u.s when a city and a local court are involved in a demolition do you think the u.s president has any say. The court ordered them demolished. Jewish homes get demolished too but the press doesn't say anything. We are talking about a few homes a year and yet the leftists rise up and scream conspiracy.
Who really cares. Let them move into legal structures. Is the world bored
The world is not bored, the world is watching. And everybody but the self-righteous, misguided, arrogant welfare recepients of Israel know that. Now, as soon as y'all give the Palestinians their land back, they won't be living in "illegal" dwellings anymore, will they? As the world sees it, it is you who are illegal.
Yes some people will find ethnic cleansing boring. Some of them mature into Holocaust deniers etc. Check your head.
and i can assure you there is a huge housing crisis, my main concern in getting married is finding a house to live in, i will have to either pay my whole salary as rent or leave Jerusalem. at the same time israel builds thousands of houses for settlers, and makes it extremely difficult for us to get permits.
they would much prefer the illegal but well-built settler homes than these sub-standard shacks! Move into legal structures? Arabs in East-Jerusalem face interminable red-tape at best and get refused permits as a general rule.
I think its better the whole world build a big wall around Israel. Everybody who wants to get in or out has to ask a visa. Just like the Gazan people.
illegally building homes in non-israeli land, arresting women for reading from the torah, preventing palestinian women from studying, alienating the non-orthodox diaspora jews, israel is really covering all the bases today ain't it? That was yesterday---today is shaping up to be another beacon of light unto the Goyim.
and the rest does not sound much worst than tolling women for wearing veils or forbidden the construction of minarettes or raising a barrier in Ceuta ( non Spanish territory) or ...banning from Catalunians the right of self determination. Should I continue.....everything happening in liberal democracies . Indeed, things happen, but as usual antisemitism just focus on Israel. Nothing new.
or Egypt or Iran or Afghanastan. Its about as democratic as you can get in this neighborhood
What do the Catalunians have to do with Israel's Apartheid and racism? Oh, never mind, I forgot, if y'all allege that someone else is doing something wrong then it's automatically okay for Israel to do it. Gotta ya! As for the "anti-Semitism(tm)" can you please show where the alleged "anti-semitic" comment is? Surely, you know that criticizing the policies of a government IS NOT anti-semitic. I'd look again if I were cause if there's anyone in the world who's anti-semitic that'd be the jews, after all, the Palestinians were the original semites.
Jordan illegally pushed Jews out of East Jerusalem and held it hostage for 19 years the Jews took back their own land. The Arabs are the occupiers! The woman who wants to study in west bank from Gaza could be a Hamas inciter! These people voted in Hamas killers so Israel has every right to keep this woman out. The UN has Libya and Angola and Iran on its Human rights board big abusers of rights so to have another phoney human rights inciter is not needed in the WB. I am a non othodox dispora Jew and Israel is not alienating us because we know history and understand why Israel is doing what it is doing israel is a democracy-why aren't you making comments about abuses in Saudi, Iran, Syria, Angola, Libya, North Korea, Somilia -because you can't they aren't democracies yet you continuously attack Israe. Wake up Labras you don't see the truth
yeah, yeah, all your wining. Hey, but is israel is suppose to be "a light unto all nations" - you want the title, then deal with it. Instead of carrying on with wrong doing because others do it, try to follow a some trace of moral code, or is that too much focussing on poor little israel!??
Syria is more of a democracy than the "Jewish State". And Saudi Arabia does not treat non Arabs like second class citizens and demolish their homes like the Jews do to Arabs. Wake up people. Stop defending genocide. Stop defending apartheid. Realize the "Master Plan " is known, and these demolitions are just pieces to the bigger puzzle. Israel must be held accountable and we must begin with Sanctions, until they do what is right... A PALESTINIAN STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think more and more are becoming aware of the injustice in Israel, and it is going to begin to affect how Jews are treated everywhere outside Israel. People are going to start making Jews feel unwelcome in their communities. I think when the cries for justice are ignored again and again, people will begin acting in their own ways to address this wrong. Palestinians pay dearly every day through no fault of their own. Soon people will begin targeting Jews the world over. THen again, this is Israels wet dream. Maybe this is why they behave as lunatics. Nobody who isn't insane wants to live in Israel.
I would suggest that many laws and beaurocratic laws be changed in Israel. Israel has come a long way in terms of reducing beaurocracy. However a lot still needs to be done that people should be able to get permission to build more easily. And not build neighborhoods of slums.
What the government of Israel and its citizens are doing is called "a self-fullfilling prophrecy" much like in the past, they'll start roaming the world again, crying persecution and anti-Semitism. By watching the events that have unfolded over the past 63+ years, one can clearly see how that came to be and how it's beeing used to their advantage in a cyclical way.
More confirmation of a defacto Israeli desire to create a true apartheid state. This Jew says not in my name.
This is all due to the current coalition goverment truckling to an extremist minority. All we can do in the diaspora is hope the Israeli voter kicks these idiots out at the next opportunity.
No israel, No Palestine. One State Solution is the best for all. One Man, One Vote, Equality for all inhabitants. Equal Pay for Equal Work, Equal Water Rights. No Apartheid, No Segregation...A Very True Secular Democrac Let us call it: “State of Holy Land”.
It's becoming obvious in America that Netanyahu has won the struggle against peace and change. Obama can not use any large amount of his political capital attempting to bring peace where it is not wanted. By the time Obama leaves office and teh next president, who AIPAC will force to pledge undying loyalty to Zionist methods and objectives. The two state solution is effectivly dead. There will never be a Palestine, unless the coming Arab majority decides to rename the nation. The struggle now becomes about equal rights for Arab citizens. Americans will be far more sympathetic to an internal civil rights struggle. Palestine is dead, but freedom and equality aren't entirely dead in Israel yet.
Since the stated goal of the Arab world is to push the Jews into the sea, Israel should do everything in their power to protect themselves as harsh as it may appear; the dwellings were illegal; without permit.
"We'll make a pastrami sandwich of them. We'll insert a strip of Jewish settlement, right across the West Bank, so that in 25 years time, neither the United Nations, nor the United States, nobody, will be able to tear it apart." -Ariel Sharon to Winston Churchill III in 1973 Aaaah, that mantra of the destruction Israel with violins playing in the background...
And much better Israel builds homes for her Jewish citizens. Israel has no responsibility to provide free homes to Arab squatters.
If a group in my country decided to create a state for themselves only and leave me and my descendants as second class citizens I would want to push them into the sea too.
I'm sure that the man who's house was knocked down was less concerned about 'pushing jews into the sea' and more concerned about building a home for his family. Perhaps now Israel have galvanised his hatred for them.
Since the stated goal of the Arab world is to push the Jews into the sea, Israel should do everything in their power to protect themselves as harsh as it may appear; the dwellings were illegal; without permit.
Americans, and The international community, should remember that Israel acts illegally, DEFYING; UN SC Resolutions: 242 (1967) 252 (1968); 267 (1969); 271 (1969); 298 (1971); 338 (1973); 476 (1980); 478 (1980); 681 (1990); 1322 (2000); 1397 (2002); 1402 (2002); 1405 (2002); 1435 (2002); 1544 (2004); 446 (1979); 452 (1979); 465 (1980); 471 (1980);1544 (2004) UN General Assembly resolution: 62/108 (2008); 58/292 (2004); 62/181 (2007); 61/184 (2006); 59/251 (2004); 58/292 (2004); 62/108 (2007); 62/109 (2007): International Court of Justice ruling on the wall on 9 July 2004
Tony, you should know that only Iran defies UNSC resolutions. Israel IS the SC.
More than 50% , over 104 in total, of UNSC resolutions are passed against Isreal. Only US has stop them being implemented. The world is truely watching for the day when the US drops support for Isreal. She shown naked barbarism for the last 60 years
The biggest surprise is y'all being surprised. What did you expect? A sudden stop in the zionist colonial enterprise? It's all about land grab and ethnic cleansing by Israel, getting rid of the Palestinians. Quoting Ehud Barak: "In the fullness of time there will be very few salmon around who still want to return to their birthplace to die",
A Reuters photographer witnessed a Palestinian family removing its belongings from the house in East Jerusalem's Beit Hanina neighborhood before an Israeli excavator tore into the dwelling.
an owner who neither owned the land or had legal permitting to build. In short, another squatter on Israel's land.
Just another sad day in middle east. When will the people of Israel stand up for them selfs and stop their puppet master once and for all ? Ever heard the expression united we are strong ? How did U,S stop their puppet master, the British impire ? The people of U,S asimilated and joind forces and build a strong state so why cant Israel do the same with Palastine ?
Can't build in the USA without the proper permits. Some towns issue them based on who knows whos family and who's palms were greased or political support. The whole world is screwy!
The annexation of East Jerusalem was declared ILLEGAL by UNSC Resolution 252 (1968)of 21 May 1968 UNSC Resolution 267 (1969) of 3 July 1969 UNSC Resolution 271 (1969) of 15 September 1969, UNSC Resolution 298 (1971) of 25 September 1971, UNSC Resolution 465 (1980) of 1 March 1980, UNSC Resolution 476 (1980) of 30 June 1980 And yet, Israel defies the International Community.
Israel razed on Tuesday an inhabited Palestinian home in East Jerusalem for the first time in eight months, effectively ending an unofficial freeze of such internationally condemned demolitions.
the deciding vote,the world except the Arabs voted for a 2 state solution. the Jewish state was created because of the 6 million dead. I remember the pride of my Jewish neighbors the star of David in the windows.this pride is carried today by their children.
The pals have had years to make peace w/ Israel. They refuse and now have two entities neither of which talks to one another or to Israel. Good for Israel!
Build homes for Jews, Demolish homes of Arabs. This is Israel's policy. This how apartheid works.
but Jews can't go into many arab cities because the arabs will kill them, stab them or rape them. Is that aparthied
Some unpleasant FACTS for the blindly and willfully ignorant Israel's declared boundaries are those of UNGA res 181. http://wp.me/pDB7k-tM Israel was recognized by the majority of the International Community of states by the boundaries of UNGA res 181, over riding the Arab States legal objections. It is inadmissible to 'acquire' territory by war. A sovereign may reclaim territory.. http://wp.me/PDB7k-Y#JFNA ( It must have been sovereign in the first place) Israel has never legally annexed ANY territory, EVER. God's signature is not on the Declaration of a Jewish state Preemptive wars are staretd by the preemptor. Israel was no longer a part of Palestine on May 15th 1948, it had just declared independence from the non-state entity of Palestine. The Arab states invaded PALESTINE, not Israel, which is why there is no UNSC resolutuion condemning their actions. http://wp.me/pDB7k-ki
Obama is giving Israel enough rope to hang itself? Please someone, tell me I am right!
Obama is powerless to do anything when it comes to Israel because Jstreet is not even close to powerful as AIPAC, and elections are coming up and the democrats are having to scramble for votes, so Obama will trade demolished homes and dead Palestinians for votes. It's Israel's responsibility if this later backfires and people want revenge.
Readers should check out the website for this Israeli group that has been working non stop to stop the demolitions. They have some effect but their voice is a very important one and thye need all the support they can get.
Why is there no analysis of claims permits wont be granted? If true, why are journalists letting the government off the hook? If not true why is that not reported?
In this paper and many others. Also check out the advocacy work that has been done by Ir Amim, an organisation that has been working through the courts to stop these demolitions. But it is very difficult. Obviously, you have national policy which is to judaise East Jerusalem as extensively and quickly as possilbe. That is a national priority. Then you have a racist mayor of Jerusalem who wants to rid the city of its Arab populktion and makes sure that no building permits will be issued. Multiple reasons are always given to justify thier racism but it all boils down to the same thing. So this is not impromptu, this is policy. Reports have been effective in exposing the problem but not in solving it because the governement and city certainly do not want it solved.
It isn't true. In East Jerusalem, many more permits were issued to Arabs than to Jews in East Jerusalem. A significant number of permits have been issued to Arabs for building in West Jerusalem, as well. The Arab population of Jerusalem has grown at a greater rate than the Jewish and "other." So much for trying to make Jerusalem Arab-free. Friends in East Jerusalem moved there from West Jerusalem after 1967 and say that, if the city is ever divided (they believe it will not be), they will sell their homes and move.
You cannot substantiate any of your allegations. This is just nonsense. Please site your source of where any palestinian received a permit to build a home in West Jerusalem!! If the Arab population is growing faster than the Jewish then perhaps that might be the reason why the government of Israel is doing all in its power to dispossess them and replace them with Jews in Jews only neighbourhoods. nAre those Palestinians who lost their homes to which they held titled in Talbieh, Katamon, etc are they allowed to return and claim their property or does that right only pertain to Jews??
Knowing the talkback participants here I should have known that I must specify that my friends who will sell and move are Arab. Also, as for the lack of permits: there is a Middle Eastern resistance - not just Arab or Palestinian - to civil processes. They just won't be bothered. And Israel is particularly frustrating in its processes. One of the things Americans immigrating here complain about is standing in line for an hour - or two or three - and then finding that they do not have the necessary documents because they didn't know they were needed.
Your friends who are Jews will end up getting their permit. You still did not cite your source for reporting that palestinians are free to buy anywhere in West Jerusalem. Cite your sources and the statistics for palestinians who have bought property in west jerusalem.
Isrealys need to find another LAND...In 80s i was thinking that shering land with Jews will not be a problem but know i dont agree with that... they have to leave know...because the will allways try to control all muslim GOVR... in negative way and wars.....muslimes lost 60 years of all the good things in this modern time just for Israely PARANOYA....
Malvinas/Falkland Islands!!! No neighbours to invade! Just loads of sheep to shag! It would solve the Argentina vs Britain dispute, and the UK would restore some international credibility. All gain. Peace in the Holy Land.
Or give 'em Texas. Hell, it's got oil and George Bush. Or Brooklyn, god knows all its residents all jews already.
First time in 9 months! Congratulations on providing such resounding proof that Israel wants peace
Ethnic cleansing the Palestinian People of Jerusalem is zionist aim.
Oh, but it is a "Western-style democracy"! Look, Americans did the same thing with their natives.
An ethnocracy.
So now we see the beginning of the second Crystal Night. About 70 years have gone since the first one in Germany and I thought that was the end of it. Here we go again. Hopefully the Palestinians will adopt the Gandhidoctrine and sit down doing nothing. I believe that will be more successful than all the rockets and armed resistance.
For too long they disregarded Israeli Rules and Regulations. Not only in any confrontation or disagreement they take side of the enemy but majority of them is openly hostile and involve in terror activities... Palestinians are temporary residence of State of Israel nothing more and nothing less..
This type of savage thinking is the reason there will never be peace. The Palestinians are being systematically abused and kicked from their homes and are having their lives destroyed, and you are in full support of this. You are a pathetic excuse for a human being.
It is in East Jerusalem on the border with Ramallah. Not one international law lawyer would agree with you, and I hate to tell you Israel is not above international law.
To you, "Palestinians are temporary residence of State of Israel nothing more and nothing less.. " But to the rest of the world "Jews are temporary residence of State of Palestine nothing more and nothing less.. "
Your comments are of the media type, one sided without any consideration for the people of the entire area. Please do much reading and studying on both sides and so we don't have to listen to the one sided abuse story. I have talked personally with well educated Jews and Palestinians. Both sides are abused, but the greatest abuses came from outside of the land of Israel/palestine, not from within.
Unless International law is enforced the same everywhere to include the big boys in Russia, Chian, US, France, England, then it is no law at all. I do not live or ever once in my life recoginized international law. I agreed to live under the United States constitution. The UN can kiss my butt!
and in a few months ( or years) every thing will belong to the Palestinians.
The Israeli government's "rules" and "laws" are in place simply so they can point and claim they have them. In reality, permits are nearly never granted to allow a Palestinian to build a home just so when they finally do it anyways out of desperation, the government can come in and claim it to be "illegal," when in really these laws are racist and discriminatory. They are set up so the Palestinians can never live there and Israelis can grab up the land. Israelis do not want peace, they want land. Shame on anyone who supports this despicable behavior by the Israeli government. We are all humans. We should coexist in peace.
by the international community.
Israel is a democratic state in some ways but also a Jewish state in others. Zoning and building permits favors Jews but limits 90% of Arab building and the Gov. admits this since records easily show it but many records sealed to prevent newspapers from publishing them. Is this Apartheid, maybe but many Muslim countries are just as bad or worse for non-Muslims.
I know one man and it took him 20 years to get all the permits so he could build his building and that was in Israel proper in Haifa. They really need a regulation overhaul
Much of the land in Jerusalem is owned by the Greek orthodox church and other churches
"PARAGRAPH 6. -- DEPORTATION AND TRANSFER OF PERSONS INTO OCCUPIED TERRITORY This clause was adopted after some hesitation, by the XVIIth International Red Cross Conference (13). It is intended to prevent a practice adopted during the Second World War by certain Powers, which transferred portions of their own population to occupied territory for political and racial reasons or in order, as they claimed, to colonize those territories. Such transfers worsened the economic situation of the native population and endangered their separate existence as a race. The paragraph provides protected persons with a valuable safeguard. It should be noted, however, that in this paragraph the meaning of the words "transfer" and "deport" is rather different from that in which they are used in the other paragraphs of Article 49, since they do not refer to the movement of protected persons but to that of nationals of the occupying Power." Never again, indeed.
The annexation of East Jerusalem was declared ILLEGAL by UNSC Resolution 252 (1968)of 21 May 1968 UNSC Resolution 267 (1969) of 3 July 1969 UNSC Resolution 271 (1969) of 15 September 1969, UNSC Resolution 298 (1971) of 25 September 1971, UNSC Resolution 465 (1980) of 1 March 1980, UNSC Resolution 476 (1980) of 30 June 1980 And yet, Israel defies the International Community.
If you conquer something in a war it is yours
Why does the extreme Left pout so much when the Jews defend themselves and win?
the same way every other nation in the world was settled, after a war. Israel and Judea were untied by King David over 3,000 years ago.
Actually under International Law winning a war does not grant possession of land. The reason for the law is to remove that incentivefor war. Colonizing taken land is also illegal for the very reason that doing so makes it harder to restore the land to its proper owners. Israel's policy of establishing "facts on the ground" is a demonstration why this law exists.
It is not yours. When you steal something when caught you will be forced to return it AS IT WAS. That's the best part.
Is this what Netanyahu means when he speaks of confidence building measures? This government will apparently not be content until we become a pariah state which has lost all its defenders, Jewish and non-Jewish alike.
You have a people eager to be your peaceful neighbor, cooperating with you on all levels. Israelis need to confront their government, confront their extremists, push for a viable peace and better future!
You both are a bunch of loons. It prefer to be a pariah state then lose my identity. Isn't that the reason we where forced into Ghettos? Be Christian or be a pariah. We'll be a pariah until you wake up.
Dear ashamed, Israel IS a pariah state. For decades. Decent Israelis are leaving. They are welcome in the U.S. As for the settlers, stay in Israel. We don't need or want crazies. That includes Nutanyahoo/Limburger. Salaam/Shalom
So it's because "you" were forced into ghettos that you feel it's right to force the Palestinians into ghettos? I think that'll you dead if you don't wake up. Remember the Nazis? They also thought that nobody could touch them. Who's laughing now, eh? Yep. Never again is right!
What else could be expected?
Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.
Oh, Pinocchio! If you continue fake the funk and talk of the peace, your nose will grow and grow. How ugly is it now and how uglier would it be !
You are correct. To be exact, Netanyahu is seeing what he can get away with before Obama is actually moved to action. Netanyahu is not concerned with scolding, complaining, whining, or stern warnings. In fact, these are things that America substitutes for action when pressed by Israel. Until Obama takes action such as suspending support or pressing for sanctions, he is doing nothing at all. It will appeal to the sense of humor of Israelis that the person they call the most anti-Israel president ever gets "bitch slapped" by Israel in this manner on the public stage.
Obama is sucking up to Congress Congress is sucking up to AIPAC+ Co. AIPAC+ is sucking up to Israeli right wing fanatics. Right wing fanatics are sucking up to expansive Zionism!
until after the 2012 elections.
BiBi will be gone before President Obama
Here's a suggestion, Let's raise Bibi's Caeserea home
Let's do the same with Lieberman's... I volunteer!
The Israelis are being condemned for building 'pre approved' apartment complexes in the 'undisbuted' areas of their own homeland, but can't raze homes which were built ILLEGALLY by so called Palestinians? I say GO FOR IT Israel! It's YOUR LAND!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT OBAMA'S and NOT the UN'S!
if your governnment ALLOWED THOSE PEOPLE TO GET PERMITS ON THEIR OWN LANDS THEY WOULD NOT BUILD ILLEGALLY... IF you knew anything about your urban planning system you would not be making blindly ridiculous statements, and would be ashamed of yourself and your government.
Israel is allowed to build on the lands of 1948. East Jerusalem was seized in 1967. Arabs shouldn't be required even to have permits. It's occupied land. Israel doesn't grant permits to non-Jews in East Jerusalem because it's a racist state. If East Jerusalem has nothing to do with the UN and Jews can do whatever they want regardless of laws, why can't we destroy homes of Israeli citizens in Canada or America and ignore international law? Would you want that? You are being racist. This is ridiculous. It's not Israel's land. George Bush senior told Israel not to build, but they keep ignoring the US. They ignore Europe, and they want trade deals. Boycott Israel if it wants to build there.
" I say GO FOR IT Israel! It's YOUR LAND!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT OBAMA'S and NOT the UN'S! "
How about making Israel apply for a permit to be in Palestinian land, eh?
This is really a very big sacrifice ... how were they able to hold so long (the urge to demolish was there but they were able to hold 9 months), impressive ... and the world is complaining about the lack of will of the Zionist to !!! What a joke ... i am sick to my stomach ... if this is the best the Zionists can do ... then KISS PEACE GOODBYE ...
shame on you...
The Arabs must leave Jerusalem. Don't be surprised if it doesn't inspire peaceful feelings.
why not those zionist jews go to where they came from?
So they can be slaughtered? Where would they go? To spain where they were slaughtered? To England where they were slaughtered? To Russia where they were slaughtered? To france where they were slaughtered? To Germany where they were slaughtered? To arab nations, where they were slaughtered? Read your history! Never again!
The muslims have got their states. Can jewish people own property in these muslim countries? Look how they behave. Sad and racist
Yes actually. yes they can. Does anyone on these things actually bother to research their angry claims or do they just spew rubbish to confirm views they already hold?
They just spew rubbish to confirm views they already hold. Iran is a Muslim country that has the second largest Jewish community in the ME. Many Iranian Jews returned to Iran after leaving for Israel, following the Islamic Revolution. They couldn't bear the racism of the Ashkenazi Jews, or the constant Israeli warmongering against their country of origin. So much for the 'safe Jewish homeland'
All the "Sacred Texts" were written by people with agendas and an ax to grind. They can be interpreted to justify any action, anywhere ,anytime. Clerics and wannabes, and their adherents and followers must be understood to be criminally insane before any progress in Human Affairs occurs Who said that the Taliban and Mullahs are restricted to Islam? They are embedded in all religions and, eventually, will take control, be it Islam, Judaism or Christianity
and stop spouting your propaganda.
Its the people Tony. The ten commandments makes sense. Loving your neighbor like yourself is cool Theres plenty great laws in the holy book. Its the people who mess up. Lets not blame the book
Option (A) There is no government in Israel, and this is all happening on auto-pilot. Option (B) Obama gave a secret undertaking to Bibi that he has given up, and Israel can do what it wants. Option (C) Bibi doesn't know how far Obama's patience will stretch, and so he is testing the waters one shack at a time. I guess we'll know the answers within a day or so, because if Obama merely "regrets" this action then he has given up on these unruly children.
He has shown that he is incapable of holding Israel to account for its actions. Israel can get away with anything and with nothing more than a statement of regret. And the conservative fanatics in Congress have now formed another pro zionist lobby that will be nothing more than a rubber stamp for the worst violations against international law by the government of Israel. Obama is playing into their hands and we have yet had anyone explain to us why our bond with Israel is "unbreakable"? Guilt over the inaction of the US during the Holocaust? The power of the AIPAC lobby to influence ME foreign policy? Why is the "bond" with Israel any different than with any other ally where we would recognise that that country's policies are in contradiction with US interests globally?
i would add to your list of causes that most americans who support israel are utterly ignorant of its history or the facts concerning the conflict with the palestinians. Many people in the US support israel as against "those muslims." Also, helping "poor besieged jews" fits in nicely with our self-made narrative of helping the downtrodden. To them, not supporting israel in some ill defined way is tantamount to supporting death camps. And of course there's the whole evangelical angle (shudder). A vast sea of ignorance, self love and religion-based intolerance
i once had an israeli friend (lawyer and supporter of israel!) ask me how americans felt about Israel dictating US M.E. policy. I could only answer that the vast majority of americans have no idea what's going on
Although we hear voices in the mainstream press, ie. Nicholas Kristof in his recent op-ed piece in the NYTimes, most of the news comes from extremely biased reporters of the ilk of Kristol and Krauthammer. Sharon also expressed a similar feeling to your Israeli lawyer friend. With the support of the Jewish community (though that is seriously changing of late with groups like JStreet and Jewish Voice for Peace becoming more involved in the debate), the growing conservative lobby and the protestant fundamentalists there is strong organised opposition to Americans hearing an alternative voice. The ignorance of most Americans on the issues is astounding.
As a pro-Obama Caribbean I am sorely disappointed that the president has not been able to counter the Jewish power in USA. Remember the 70 Congressman who chided him for demanding Israel's compliance with international law? If Obama is unable to influence a country which depends on your support, how does he have the moral authority to keep Iran or any other country in line?
What a couple of arrogant, ignorant asses! First, most of those in the US who support Israel know more of the history of the Israel - and of the Middle East - necessary in understanding the situation - than you apparently do. Second, most of the news in the US is just short, incomplete capsules about the situation in Israel and is heavily biased against Israel. I live part-time in each place and trying to counter the misinformation there could be a full-time job.
Most Americans do not understand the problem. To claim that the Palestinian position or their history vis a vis zionism receives an equal voice to counteract zionist propaganda is ridiculous.
Other than business treaties Israel has never signed any agreements with the US.
obviously, KT, you're not watching the same news I am. when was the last time you heard the word "occupation" in a television news cast re: Israel or Palestine on any major or cable TV network? how about "colonization"? how about "war crimes"? And most Americans are under-educated idiots. Only after leaving the country did I even learn what Israel really was and how it was treating the Palestinian population (like most Americans, I thought Israel was the good guys.)
No water, no electricity, no gas, no safety regulations, no taxes and it's not added to the city map so when the authorities want to build something there there's suddenly an unknown construct blocking the way. You want a permit, request one, it doesn't require you to write your religion and this guy didn't even apply for one. I hope he's fined for the operation to remove the construct as I don't feel like paying for every hooligan that wants to build a crack den or whatever he wants. Why is this even news? In other news 5 homes were razed for being built illegally without a permit in Alappuzha, what a shocker. This article has DERP written all over it.
just by name israeli authority will tell you what religion you have.
People who build homes illegally anywhere in the world should not be surprised when the authorities take action against them. The lame excuse that they could not get a permit there does not empower them to build whatever they want wherever they want. There are innumerable legal Arab construction projects in almost all areas on both sides of the "green" line -- the lawbreakers should build somewhere else like everyone else.
Hey Barf, since Israel's settlements in the West Bank are all illegal according to international law, shouldn't they all be torn down?! Think about it!
There is a debate among the Israeli left and right concerning this issue. Some say it should be done sooner rather than later to promote piece. Others say if we get out potential terrorists move in and we have anoter Gaza on our hands.
Hey "S" .............ISRAEL ........WON that land!!!!! And THEY gave it up! AND UNLIKE YOUR "PRECIOUS" ARAB HYPOCRITES ............THEY are ENFORCING THEIR OWN LAW ...........and TREATIES .............only to have 'people' LIKE YOU ..............say THEY NEED TO GIVE UP MORE........ and say how GUILTY they should FEEL!
As far as anyone who ISN'T a zionist is concerned East Jerusalem is not the sovereign territory of Israel. It is, instead, an Israeli OCCUPIED city. As such Israeli law has no jurisdiction over it, including planning laws and building permits. So when you say "People who build homes illegally anywhere in the world" you are incorrect to claim that these homes are "illegal", precisely because the law that deems them to be "illegal" is not applicable.
You are living proof that a little knowledge is dangerous. Israel's communities over the '48 armistice line are not illegal by the Geneva Convention or any other international law. Many of those Jewish communities existed from time immemorial (in Hevron, The Old City, Gush Etzion, etc.) but those Jewish communities were destroyed by attacking Arab armies who illegally occupied those areas for 19 years (from '48 to '67) and then lost them again when they re-attacked Israel and attempted to annihilate it. There is no moral or legal reason for Jews not to rebuild their homes there.
People who post in capitals never have anything rational to say
Hey Barf, I'd suggest you read article VI, paragraph 6 of the '48 armistice agreement you mentioned a bit more closely, and see what it says about who really controls those areas. I'd also suggest that you read Article II, paragraph 2 of that agreement! "Wherever villages may be affected by the establishment of the Armistice Demarcation Line provided for in paragraph 2 of this article, the inhabitants of such villages shall be entitled to maintain, and shall be protected in, their full rights -of residence, property and freedom. In the event any of the inhabitants should decide to leave their villages, they shall be entitled to take with them their livestock and other movable property, and to receive without delay full compensation for the land which they have left. It shall be prohibited for Israeli forces to enter or to be stationed in such villages, in which locally recruited Arab police shall be organised and stationed for internal security purposes."
only lunatics think as you think!
Me, you, and a couple of sledgehammers. I hear Ariel's a nice place to visit this time of year ...
Are you related to Sarah Palin or are you her? There's nothing like the undescriminate use of exclamation points, periods and the random capitalization of every other word for absolutely no reason to show the writer's ignorance.
The ease in which Israel snubs its nose at its "great friend and ally" the U.S. is truly amazing. How foolish does our secretary of state look as she urges Turkey to remain friends with Israel while Israel demolishes homes of Palestinians ... The Jews got their state...and this is how their state behaves. Sad
Not sad.Criminal ethnic cleansing.
THe HOMES of Palestinians? ARE you SERIOUS? The Israelis are forced to evict settlers from the 'ILLEGAL" West Bank Settlements ..............and yet when they evict ILLEGALS PALESTINIANS ..............YOU have the Gall to imply ..............they are WRONG? That my friend is called HYPOCRISY! THEY so called PALESTINIANS ...........HAD NO PERMIT. HENCE they were ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps ...........................someone should ....ILLEGALLY........take over YOUR HOME .........and then call YOU RACIST .............when YOU EVICT THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If in your mind, they remain "so-called" Palestinians, then of course, you can rationalize each and every Israeli action against them...since, you have rendered them a non-existent construct. On a more practical note: One State or Two States, those are your only civillized choices.
isn't that wat all international law say... isn't that what USA, EU, Russsia, China, Germany, France, Japan, India, Turkey, Britian, Canada say... is there any country in the world other that israel that says yes j'lem is part of israel...
It is well recorded how Israel discriminates against Arab Israelis obtaining building permits - including in areas that neither the Israeli Supreme Court norm international law considers to be part of Israel. Then such 'illegal buildings' are torn down in order to build 'legal' (Jewish) settlements - be that in EJ or the WB. And you fall for this?
A bit of education: "so-called" Palestinians means that the Arabs are not the only Palestinians Jews are Palestinians too. But Jews tried to move on and remove the stigma of a word created by Romans to humiliate the Jews. There isn't a civilized answer to this with out the Arabs acceptance of the Jews claims to their historic land.
No israel, No Palestine. One State Solution is the best for all. One Man, One Vote, Equality for all inhabitants. Equal Pay for Equal Work, Equal Water Rights. No Apartheid, No Segregation...A Very True Secular Democrac Let us call it: “State of Holy Land”.
If you loved it so much why did you wait 2000 years to go back.? The indigenous Palestinians have been there for thousands of years, they did'nt emigrate to surrounding countries - they stayed and converted to Christianity and Islam.
Maggie: based on the actions of the Israelis over the past 63+ years, I would be fair to say that their leaving was not voluntary even if it was warranted. Even the Bible describes how they made persona non grata out of themselves everywhere they went. They eventually had to run for the lives. Then landed in Europe and guess what? Same schit, different continent. Now, it's back to the ME and guess what? See the pattern here? Their persecution complex is a self-fulfilling prophecy and self-inflicted. They truly give people no other choice but to kick them swift in the ass.
So, by your logic it was not racist that they evicted them to the ghettos and concentration camps. Just because a state passes a law, it doesn't mean it's right.
It seems like the answer is no.
It seems like the answer is no.
Only the Israelis fail to outline a proposal. Israel talks of two states but is destroying this option by building illegal settlements on occupied territory.
Just look how many times they refused peace talks or negotiation about statehood.Free money from around the world filling private accounts are a privilege that will be removed if they declare sovereignty so why to bother? Talks about peace or Palestinian state are sufficient no need to do more.Money, money!
judea and samaria ocupied by jews. whats your problem with jews in judea, the illegal settler are the arabs there and the two states are jordan and israel. now we have jordan, jesha, gaza! 4 tate solution.
AFTER all of the INFIDELS are dead.,..
they want a house, how dare they want to have right like you have in their own land, how there they protest because their land is occupied, how dare they want freedom of movement, how dare they want to join armed groups after they see their houses demolish!! How dare!!!!!!!!
Are you KIDDING ME? The ISRAELIS are the ONLY ONES who GAVE UP LAND!!! And the ISRAELIS are the ONLY ONES who are REMOVING "THEIR PEOPLE" from the ILLEGAL SETTLEMENTS!!!!!!! TELL ME "BORN FREE AND EQUAL" ...........are the PALESTINIANS/ARABS removing THEIR PEOPLE from the 'shacks' which are ILLEGALLY being BUILT in the UNDISPUTED PARTS OF ISRAEL? ARE THEY? What? IS that SILENCE I HEAR FROM YOU?
Lying zionists. You write the narrative for the Palestinians. All Palestinians want peace, it is Israel and the racist settler thugs who've made it absolutely clear in their own words, they will not give up the land, they will continue to force Arabs off land they see as theirs.
The left has always been a weak political force in Israeli political life, from its inception. The controlling party, indeed the predominant sentiment in Israel to day is far right, extreme nationalist combined in force with religious fundamentalists who are more and more detached from the rest of the world. The psychology of us against them is deeply embedded in the Israeli psyche. They want peace ontheir terms. But one thing is strong than achiveing peace and that is the demographic imperative. Nothing holds a candle to it. For yrs, the palestinians were a united rejectionist front and Israel could play the game of how they yearn for peace. Now Palestinians recognise Israel and its right to exist and it is Israel that does not want peace, or better, they don't want peace before they achieve thier demographic imperative. And what is that? Precisely what we are witnessing now: a frantic pace of consfiscating more and more land and settling it with the maximum number of Jews while doing all they can to reduce the Arab population to achieve demogrpahic superiority. Land and people. That is what Israel wants. Peace only gets in the way of achieving that overriding goal of zionism.
Money? Refused peace talks? Private accounts? Really, look to your own house of corruption. We won't go into the details on the financial scandlas that a number of Israeli presidents and PMs have been or are involved in. Israel has been the open mouth of more US money than any other nation. What Israel asks for, Isrel gets. Palestinians are asking for peace talks on the basis of where they left off. Their stipulations are ones which are supported by decades of agreement with the US, EU and international courts: that is that the colonies Israel has constructed across all of Palestine are illegal. There is consensus on that, so your allegation is full of hot air.
Aren't you trying to get rid of the Jews? Weird that you didn't know this is a war for land, which started when the Arabs didn't accept the UN's proposal in 48
There are plenty of European states already
As I read your comment I take a deep breath. May enlightenment prevail. Please read My friend Ilan Pappe's book The ETHNIC Cleansing of PALESTINe. Avram Berg's The Holocaust is over We Must Rise from it's Ashes, For light bedtime reading I suggest a short book of 93 pages, The Israeli Holocaust Against the Palestinians written by Michael Hoffman and Moshe Lieberman, Please also read Norman Finkelstein Beyond Chutzpah, On the Misuse of ANTI-SEMITISM and the abuse of history. Ali Abunimah has a wonderful book out ONE COUNTRY A BOLD PROPOSAL, The ISRAEL LOBBY and U.S. Foreign Policy by John Mearsheimer and Stephen M . Walt, While you have a few moments please also read THE GOLDSTONE REPORT on line for FREE. Professor Rashid Khalidi has several enlightening books on the Middle east. I read THE IRON CAGE The Palestinian Struggle for Statehood, Please read Alice Walker's overcoming speechlessness. A very short book about Rawanda, Congo, and Palestine/Israel. have you heard of JVP Jewish voice for PACE. Or Heard Rabbi Asherman speak. He represents RABBIS FOR HUMAN RIGHTS check him out on the web. After you have done your readings in I would like to interview you for my upcoming book, apparently you have a lot to say and you are passionate about it. Peace, love, and outrage.
We need to disseminate this information ASAP. I'll help, as soon as you put up valid sources....
that is what zionist love!
Over the past few years, the right wing trend in Israel has excelerated. The government is dominated by extreme nationalists and religioius fundamentalists. Neither believes in democracy, but in ethnocracy, a term that sums up Israel's so called version of democracy. The majority of Israelis support this kind of ideology and those who oppose it are sidelined and quite powerless. netanyahu and his cohorts do not wnat peace and more importantly do not believe peace is possible. They have constructed an ideology that sees Israel in a constant state of danger, precarious. They do not believe in a two state solution. That is a ploy for US consumption. They believe in the zionist imperative which is getting by any means possible the maximum amount of territory that was not granted to them in '48 and settling it with a demographic majority of Jews and slowly but steadily dispossessiong the Arab population and making life as alienating and impossible for them as they can. That is their motivation and of course, in time it will prove to be unsustainable as it has for any colonist power.
Why not. It semmes that is very profiting for palestinians to be refugees. Other refugees worldwide have settlled themselves everywhere. The palestinians in contrast have made a great business of being refugees. The United Natinos have created a refugee organization just for them (UNRWA)
Build one for me!!!!!
"confidence-building measures - within weeks". I'm sure that these kinds of "confidence building measures" will get Abbas back to the table for direct talks. Hopefully, Obama is smart enough to judge Netanyahu on what he delivers, not on what he promises.
giving up land for enemys? hope obama goes fast the whay of all rubisch and us gets a good president. never thaught i will miss georg busch.
None of those structures appearing in the above photo resemble any buildings that would hold up in a strong earthquake. I'm no architect but it looks plainly obvious to me.
Israel would be to blame if they did fall down, just as much as if they stayed up.
You won't argue though that razing those homes was an act of pure responsibility and charity, will you? That's by the way a typical Western behaviour: To make even the most blatent egoism appear like charity. Take a look at the United States Geological Survey Website http://minerals.usgs.gov/granted.html. Under the point "Future Mineral Supplies" a map of Afghanistan appears, accompanied by the text: "Mineral resource assessments of Afghanistan and Madagascar are examples of USGS mineral resource science aiding economic development of countries around the world." Israel will say it is creating jobs for Palestinian construction workers. New homes built by cheap workers for Westerners who pay good rents to the Israeli owners.
"Israel will say it is creating jobs for Palestinian construction workers. " And many Israelis will say that Israel is doing too much to give those 'terrorists' (aka all Palestinians) a second chance by providing construction jobs for them in Jewish settlements.
And no doubt Hamas would be blamed for the earthquake.
Yes, probably, but I wonder if our prognoses should not leave some place for the Israelis to realize that they themselves are somehow of nationalist politics, lacking social solidarity, contact restrictions etc. It's not only the Pals who are poor and unfree.
why wasnt he given a permit? why?
and you think they would have giving it to him?
they don't get one. There is an unofficial policy in Israel to delay building permits for Arabs. This is not new and it is not secret. There have been one too many cases that prove this. For more information on the topic, see the Future Vision Documents or visit Adalah's website.
In any other country they would have been razed years ago. Squatters aren't welcome anywhere. You don't realise how many years this has been in court to get this result. So many Arabs moved illegally from the West Bank so as not to be under Fatah. Be fair as this has nothing to do with peace talks.
they dont give me a permit coz they hate jews no. no permit no building :!:
East Jerusalem is not sovereign Israeli territory; it is Israeli-occupied territory. That does rather make a difference, because it means that Int'l Law regards these Palestinians are "protected persons", and they are meant to be "protected" from the malicious use of the authority that an occupier has over them.
If you answered "Israel" then you would be wrong, because the Israeli annexation of East Jerusalem is regarded as "null and void" under international law.
Because he isn't building in Israel. This is a city under Israeli OCCUPATION, and that means that Israeli LAW has no jurisdiction. And if Israeli LAW is not applicable to East Jerusalem then no "permit" that is issued via Israeli law can be legal.
the illegal settlers are "squatters" and they aren't welcome on the West Bank either...
jeruschalaim was soverain and is sovereyn jewish israely capital long time befor they invented this language i wrigt so bad. if your loocking for palestin go to jordan throw the hashemits home to sudia and there is your two staates solution. but you like israel to kommit suizide.
it is very much in Israel. possession is 9/10s of the law. Old Jerusalem is disputed in Int Law, not occupied. But thanks for playing.
Israel was DECLARED 14th May 1948. It's a part of the 'moderm' world and laws. The Declaration of a Jewish State DID NOT include East Jerusalem, DID NOT Include the West Bank, DID NOT include any of the territories illegally 'acquired' by Israel, by war, by 1949. It is inadmissible to 'acquire' terrirory by war. It must be LEGALLY annexed to Israel. Israel has not LEGALLY annexed ANY territory, EVER!!
Were you complaining when Jordan annexed the entire West Bank in 1950? During the 17 years it ruled there? Or do you just hate Israel?
Don't be too selective about laws you know
We are not in 1950. Jordan has made peace with Israel and renounced any claim to Palestine. We are in 2010 and the palestinians recognise Israel and their right to exist as an independent state. Deal with it and stop regressing.
The Romans did? The Babylonians did? The Asyrians did? The is no older document concerning this land, then those of the bible, of Cyrus of Iran, of Egypt and yes, of Syria. The all say the Jews were there. Even the Quaran, which came thousands of years after says the same thing. I can only see the ignorant making such silly statements.
Israel was declared 14th May 1948. It was inmediately attacked and won a war. It did acquired territories after a defensive war, and NOBODY DEMANDS ASHKELON , PARTS OF THE NEGEV OR PARTS OF THE GALILEE to be returned to anybody. In other words, those territories were annexed to Israel and are accepted by the International community as part of Israel. The West Bank was never annexed,. It is so far A DISPUTE TERRITORY. Gaza has never been annexed and it is not annexed. It is under the control of Hammas. What else????
Except its occupied Palestinian East Jerusalem, not Israel. So, it would be okay for China to demolish homes it claims are illegal in Vancouver? (Sorry China, no disrespect).