Carter in Syria: Israel must fully lift Gaza blockade
Former U.S. President meets with Syrian President Assad and Hamas politburo chief Meshal in Damascus.
By DPA Tags: Jimmy Carter Bashar Assad Khaled Meshal Gaza HamasFormer U.S. President Jimmy Carter, during a visit to Damascus on Tuesday, called for Israel to lift completely its blockade on the Gaza Strip.
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Former U.S. president Jimmy Carter holds his book up at a book signing on Dec. 12, 2006. |
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Carter made the remarks in the forum of a delegation known as The Elders, who met with Syrian President Bashar Assad and Hamas leaders in Syria.
Despite the U.S. and the European Union's labeling of Hamas as a terrorist organization, The Elders met with exiled Hamas politburo leader Khaled Meshal, as Carter has done during previous regional visits.
Following their talks with Assad and Meshal, The Elders said people in the region have "very low expectations" that the current U.S.-led talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority, which excluded Hamas, would succeed.
Carter, who has visited the Gaza Strip several times in recent years, did not accompany the rest of the delegation on their trip there Saturday.
Despite his absence from Gaza, Carter renewed calls for Israel to lift its blockade of the Hamas-governed Gaza Strip. Israel imposed the blockade in 2007 after Hamas wrestled control over the territory in a violent coup.
"The blockade is one of the most serious human rights violations on Earth and it must be lifted fully," said Carter from Syria.
Besides Carter, the Elders delegation includes former Irish president Mary Robinson and former UN envoy Lakhdar Brahimi. While in Gaza, the group described Israel's blockade as an "illegal collective punishment" and "an impediment to peace."
The Elders, who were in Cairo earlier this week, are next scheduled to hold talks with leaders and civil society groups in Jordan, Israel and the West Bank.
On the same day that The Elders called on Palestinian political factions to unite, the West Bank-based Fatah cancelled a reconciliation meeting with Hamas that was scheduled to take place this week in Syria.
According to Hamas official Azzam Ahmad, Fatah did not want to hold the meeting in Syria and formally requested "to change the venue of the meeting from Damascus to any other Arab country," without specifying a particular state.
Sources close to Hamas told the German news agency DPA that the decision to cancel talks in Damascus was a result of a dispute between Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Assad in Libya earlier this month.
The two had met there as part of a larger Arab League meeting to discuss diplomatic alternatives to Israel's renewed settlement construction in the West Bank.
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If he does this again, detain him and jail him, end the nonsense. Or just don't let him out of Gaza if he walks into that trap. You've got Joshua's permission, and that's more important than the U.N.'s condemnation of your existence. For the crime of working to harm Israeli security, as a security threat, that's what you can answer those who ask why.
Carter is NO ambassador, No official, and he does NOT speak for America. He needs to stay home and mind his own business instead of consorting with terrorists. Isn't it strange that an American president tries to embrace the enemies of this country that would love to see the U.S. destroyed along with Israel?? Why doesn't someone give this old man a mandate to keep his nose out of things he knows nothing about? He is compromising our own security by his demented ideas about jihadists!!!!
We voted this Bozo out of office in 1980 - can't he just get the hint ?? I'll chip in for the rocking chair if someone chips in for the straight jacket ! On behalf of Americas, please ignore this senile has-been and let's hope he doesn't do anymore damage while he walks freely among the remainder of us SANE individuals !
Shame on you Mr. Carter !!! José María Aznar: Israel is a fundamental part of the West. The West is what it is thanks to its Judeo-Christian roots. If the Jewish element of those roots is upturned and Israel is lost, then we are lost too. Whether we like it or not, our fate is inextricably intertwined. José María Aznar was prime minister of Spain between 1996 and 2004.
Chamberlain of today... No policy of appeasement against islamo-fascist, as those in Syria, will result in something good! Am Yisrael Chaj! Lång leve Israel!
Former U.S. president Jimmy Carter is totally senile. In fact, he is flirting with the most primitive, barbaric, islamo-fascist dictator regime of Syria. Mr. Carter has the right to express his views, but I, in my turn, think that he is a disgrace to USA.
the only reason Israel imposed this blockade was a result of the thousands of rockets being fired indiscriminately at Israeli citizens with the intent to murder innocent people. Which, is a war criminal itself, hence aiding, harbouring and abetting a criminal is a crime in itself, hence Carter needs to be arrested, along with Assad for aiding Mishaal. Carter as you spend the rest of your life serving out your sentence, have your entire family move to Sderot, at lets continue to hear your cry for Israel to loft this blockade.
"Israel imposed the blockade in 2007 after Hamas wrestled control over the territory in a violent coup. " Please be accurate. Hamas had majority control in the government of Gaza. US and Israel backed Fatah in a coup attempt against the legitimate government. Hamas foiled that attempt. Your statement above implies that Hamas instigated the coup. This is false.
Are there any tyrants whom carter did not meet? Did Carter ever meet a tyrant he didn't like?
Carter needs to learn to keep his comments to himself. He is looking at mid-east politics through very narrow minded/bigoted eyes. He is NOT a "real polotik".
The Grand Mufti, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini
Wasn't a good American president, clearly anti-Semitic, and like most bigots, best ignored.
Hopefully Israeli's. Israeli leaders , Aipac, Jinsa, ADL and U.S. congressional Israel firsters see the light. Facts about the occupation are getting out to the common folk. The truth about the continued expansion of illegal settlements are out The brutal treatment of the Palestinians by Israeli's is coming out. Pictures, videos, blogs breaking the silence barrier. The genie is not going to fit back in the bottle.
Did you ever notice that when Carter is out-gassing, the climate always seems to heat up. Maybe Gore should just get Carter to shut up. Then there would be no need for cap and trade of carbon credits.
Carter finally found the place which really shares his views, Assad's Syria. Can anyone remind Carter that he used to be a "champion" of human rights. He is so concern about the blockade of Hamas's Gaza, where is his concern for the Syrians under Assad?
America is beyond foolish for trusting Islam, and as Russia, China, Venesuala and all islamic countries join, they not only wish Israel to disapear, but also America...it is a fool who does not recognize their enemy, and America will likely fall for its naive and ignorant view. Stand Strong Isreal....at least you know your enemy.
America is beyond foolish for trusting Islam, and as Russia, China, Venesuala and all islamic countries join, they not only wish Israel to disapear, but also America...it is a fool who does not recognize their enemy, and America will likely fall for its naive and ignorant view. Stand Strong Isreal....at least you know your enemy.
more hot air from the extreme Left- there is NOTHING in international law that would make israel's justified blockade illegal. On the contrary, the San Remo conference enshrined the right of sovereign states to blockade enemy territory to prevent weapons transfer, which is exactly what israel is doing. Israel has a right to defend itself and the Gazans want freedom, then they should go back to being under Egyptian rule (as they are egyptians to begin with!).
Instead of visiting the TERRORIST ELDERS , i.e Mishal(dead man walking) as with Syria's Bashar the cruelest islamist arab dictator EVER it would behoove you to spend a week in Sderot rather than showing us your digusting book demnizing Israel as "an apartheid" state.You are the worse American President ever had ther misfortune to have,and through you the world is suffering with Iran.Get yourself a BRAIN TRANSPLANT ,Or perhaps you hospitilazion was preparation for this event?Methinks you had PLASTIC SURGERY that did nothing to heal your mindset.if Gaza is a cage,it looks like your mind is not functioning well. You should visit it and ASK THE why,and how are they able to get the Rockets to lob at the innocent Jewish civilians.The people you should confront,or advise is NOT ISRAEL,BUT,Iran? But then cowards like you dare not put themselves in jeopardy right jimma?
How wrong are you to demonstrate your hatred for jews like that
Carter is a failed U.S. President, don't listen to his advice.....
i think mr carter is right because hamas won the election so they should be there sitting with the rest but hoenstly idont think this israel goverment want apeace or is cabable of signing apeacethreaty there is no shamir right now in israel to sighn a peace
dont let this fox outfox you, he must swear alliance to israel before he put his first step on in the holy land
Why has that man not demanded the same from the Egyptians ? Is he blind - does he not know that Egypt also shares a border with Gaza ? and in any case the holed-up Gazans speak the same language (arabic) as the Egyptians. So Carter, lets hear you say the exact demand from Egypt. We are waiting - if you don't say it, then we know you are a total anti-Jew/Israel.
President Carter is one of those Justs who deeply care about Israel and dare raise their voice for peace and against the dark deeds of extreme hard right winger and pro-settler lobbies. He is a true friend of the Jewish people, one who speaks the truth.
Wait a few days ...or a few weeks... or a few months...or even a year or two. No more "Elders".
...are seriously some hateful people...but be sure that your point of view is decaying, and within our lifetimes I am sure we will see a major shift in the politics of that region. Only the most myopic Zionist cannot see the end at this point. Enjoy!
Your use of the word "Zionist" as name-calling just displays your deeply-rooted antisemitism. Don't worry: when oil comes to an end, so will the 'friends' of the Arabs disappear. And the "Zionists" will enjoy indeed!
the only thing that will change the game in the mideast is iran and the arab failed states becoming true liberal democracies. too bad Bush didn't finish the job...
Every time one believes that Obama can win as the most stupid and evil president ever, Carter beats him out again.
Like almost every member of the anti-Israel lobby, Carter throws fact, empathy and reason to the winds when it comes to just this one state. Iran is determined to fill Gaza with every possible tool of war for an eager Hamas to throw at Israeli civilians, and as far as Carter is concerned Israel must lift all barriers and let it happen. Can anyone, let alone a onetime (albeit failed) US president, really be so stupid? This is what makes one quite rationally suspect Carter of anti-Jewish bias.
And to say I am disgusted to even see his vile face smiling like hyena never giving up his unwanted advice and if he is so concerned about the gazans,why is he not over there rather in CUSHY terrorists Lebanon.I wish the man to disappear once and for all.FACT...Israel needs no damn orders from such as he the miserable old fool.
Jews have no respect to the hand that feeds them if it wasn't for Carter, the Egyptians will be at war with the sons of Israel and your blood will be shed on the streets all day long. quit being so ungrateful to all the Americans tax payers by insulting our presidents. but in due time thing are going to turn, actually the world are turning right now against you and soon you will be occupied and begging but no one to see and hear. Americans, Arabs, and all the world will repay your arrogance with arrogance and remember history always repeat it self and what goes around comes around.
Peace with Egypt has all to do with Israel returning the Sinai and nothing with Carter. Carter is deemed the worst president ever. Arabs have found their champion!
What exactly is it that brings out the vitriol here? Is it that Carter demands justice for the Palestinians? Is it that he says so publicly? Having been involved in the 'peace process' personally and having followed it closely gives him a vantage point not shared by the rest of us. If any of you had bothered to read his book, you would understand better that this is no anti-semite. He calls Hamas to task and condemns any attacks on civilians by both sides. It is much easier to shoot the messenger than to listen to the message.
And that was documented: "Former president Jimmy Carter, who has recently emerged as one of the Jewish state's most vocal critics for its current West Bank anti-terror policy, has been the recipient of tens of millions of dollars from Arab sources." For the full article see: http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/28/112225.shtml
Carter has received $millions from Arab donators. His words are therefore tainted. About his book, the part that I like best is when he says the fence must come down because there have been no terrorist attacks and therefore it is not needed anymore. Only a moron would come up with that. Or someone who is a little skewed. Obviously you side with the moron.
A failed US president that on the back of the jews and Israelis is trying to appease terrorists and jihadist to pressure Israel to give in to terrorism. Chamberline 2010 who is selling us to the devil. thank god most americans an all of the israelis view this peanut grower as joke without any power. You can continue your visit to meet ChavezAhmedinejad and Erdogan who are toasting to wipe Israel off the map. He disguises his anti semitism with his anti israeli views.
Do you think any of this is motivated by the possibility that the ICC will assert jurisdiction over crimes committed in the Gaza Strip (as discussed here, www.uclalawforum.com)?
will someone find a nice and comfortable home for the elders, preferably somewhere inPapua New Guinea, as far away as possible from the Middle East. By the way, save a place for Bill Clinton....i think he is on the right path ...extreme naivete and being out of touch
... or an anti-Semite. Those are the only two possibilities.
Namely, that someone speaks out a truth, saying that Israel might be wrong "just once"? But ignorance seems to be very common among you guys.
But most certianly is a bigot,a rabid anti-semite, anti-israel.He forgets HE IS THE WORSE PRESIDENT EVER tghat the USA has had the misfortune to have voted him in at the time,and HIS BIG FIASCO during the American hostage takenm in Iran.He is to blame for all the problems the world is facing now with th Islamic Republic of ULTRA FUNDEMENTAL AYATOLLAH RIDDEN counytry . This man craves for attetion, particularely to annoy Israel HIS ONLY PLEASURE IN LIFE.Oh talk about life: Time has come for him to retire and BUILD UP HIS PEANUT BRAIN before it shrivels even further.
Reading anything said these days by Jimma Carta or even seeing his face makes me need a quick shower. Look who this filth goes after for donations. Syria, Libya, Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, North Korea....this filth needs to meet his maker and repent already. Anyone remember his alcoholic brother hobnobbing for cash with Gaddafi? Same gene pool.
Only President who is still telling the truth! . TATA
The idea was that by blockading Gaza Israel would force the people of Gaza to turn on Hamas. Has this succeeded? No. Has the Gaza Blockade become a MAJOR propaganda debacle for Israel? Yes. Why would anyone continue to inflict more harm upon themselves than their enemy? What is there about the Gaza Blockade which has Israel clinging to failure? Is making life miserable for Gazan's worth the harm to Israel? It appears so.
is the eradication of homicide bombers in Israel. You should suggest it on the Mexican border Mark: Might make the murder of the tourist on that Texas lake by Hezbollah trained narco-terrorists the last murder of an American CITIZEN by the Islamist terrorists
the purpose was to prevent more sophisticated weapons from reaching hamas from iran and syria. isn't that obvious, you fool?
Why Mark Lincoln you dissapoint us. We thought that you were the expert on absolutely everything to do with everything. What is it about the Gaza blockade you dont understand. Its to keep out high tech armaments and rockets that would be shipped in by the ton by Iran if there was no blockade. Undertsand now Mark Lincoln world wide expert and nebbish.
What ever happened with the US? They used to have such great presidents.
Then Israel can lift the blackade. Carter will also have to guarantee no weapons smuggeling, or rockets that will fall anywhere else in Israel. AIN'T HAPPENING!
Look who's nuts........the former peanut farmer, Jimmy Carter.
Carter can at least travel freely internationally without fear of indictment.
The idea that he thinks that this is one of the more serious human rights violations just shows how obsessed he is with Israel and Jews.
It is increasing clear in the US that the only person who takes former President Carter's world view seriously is former President Carter. His performance as a statesman gives comfort to the enemies of the US, and he should be encouraged to stay home and talk less.
Jimmy could not hold onto the White House any better than one could hold onto just-roasted peanuts. His advice belongs with empty peanut shells on the compost heap. The U.S. and the world would, most likely, have been better off had (the Late)Sen. Henry "Scoop" Jackson won the Democratic Nomination. Jimmy appealed to the "Bible Belters" on the religious-right and then lost it to a better snake-oil peddler Ronnie "Right Sider" Reagan!
Carter is the truth teller
Carter was a great champion of human rights and is a very decent man. He was brought us Camp David accord and peace with Egypt as well as overlooked the greatest opening of iron gates of the Soviet Union and for that he should be forever honored. At the same time Carter was clueless about economic policies and presided over massive economic damage he inflicted on the US. He also gave us today's Iran having confused the Islamist take over of a moderate country with a grass roots democracy. He approved Shah's exile and now you know the rest of the story.
Carter is a well know anti-semite and he should stay in Syria. He would be more credible if he would state that Israel would lift the blockade if Hamas, Hezbullah, Syria, Lebanon and the PLO acknowledge Israel's right to exist and denounce terrorism. WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT FROM A PEANUT FARMER??? ANSWER: NUT ALOT....
Mr. Havsy is quite right. Carter has long been known to despise Israel and supported Arafat on numerous occassions.
otherwise, how irresponsible can you get ? Does he serieously think that it is of any use for peace if iranian troups can be positioned in Gaza. Maybe he is unaware of recent threats the ahmadinejad just launched against Israel ? And doesn't he know that the Suez-Canal is just a few miles accross from Gaza.
Hypocrisy at it's finest. Take a picture, kids.
keep at it jimmy the arab money is always useful
Carter was run out of office by the I lobby. They are losing ground. American are becoming more aware. Israel could care less about whether the continued expansion of illegal settlements has become a U.S. National security risk
The president whose incompetence is responsible for the rise of the Islamic terrorism, and who freely lends his name to terrorists, is the last person whose opinion matters. To his eternal shame.
Wahahaha , this guy who kisses up with the same men who murdered his 300 boys in Lebanon in 83' is now fighting for their cause ? he really came from peanut and goes back to becoming one Wahaha embarrassing I would say better revoke his travelling license Obama. he might run for presidency again with nasrallah as head of the NSA ? Wahahaha
Jimmy can only mean that he wants weapons to be imported into Gaza. Maybe his vision is that the sooner the big war with Gaza starts, the sooner peace can break out when the smoke clears. Maybe he should just put on his bib overalls and stick to building houses. You have to keep in mind that the Jimmy Carter Center, Library and Museum are all built with Arab money. He owes. Big Time.
if lifted why you do not let ships enter and you wanted to deliver the good to israeli port and after inspecting then deliver to gaza.in all humain history there has not been any seige for 1.5 millions people suffer because the israeli,s assumption for its secutiry, it is funny and redicious. the global blame you and then US for ur support
There are no facilities in Gaza to unload the large ships. Do you have Google Earth?
Do for Syria what you have done for the US
shouldn't Israel expect missiles?
Carter is visiting one of the most undemocratic countries on the globe. The Assad dynasty is terrorizing the Syrians in ways that would make Ahmedijnijad pale. Carter has lost political credibility long ago.
But we don't need your fake compassion or sympathy. Neither do we need you to care about Syria's (or any other arabic country's ) democracy. Carter is welcome in Syria. And by the way : VIVA PALESTINA!!!!!
Carter must be the laughing stock of the world. He must go home and take care of his Peanuts. Does he really believe that Hamas & Co. love him. All they love is the green backs and blood... excluding their own! Twirps
What hypocrisy. Israel calls itself a democracy and yet treats its non-Jewish citizens as inferiors, is introducing a racist loyalty law and holds the indigenous Palestinians under one of the most brutal occupations and apartheid colonisations in modern history. And you criticise the Syrians?
If Jimmy is so gung ho to unblock Gaza - why does he not insist that Hamas release the Israeli they have been holding illegially for two years in return for Israel and Egypt opening the border crossings for food and basic supplies?
right after israel frees all the hundreds of Palestinian men, women and children that have been held in their prisons for years and years. Works both ways friend
That's why he didn't enter Gaza during this last trip to signal his displeasure in this regard.
the seige against 1.5 million people has nothing to do with the SINGLE prisoner of war Hamas is keeping. and the SINGLE crossing into Egypt has only been closed once during a holiday weekend since Israel's pirate ship fiasco. Also, while the siege has been decreed illegal by countless international bodies (including many in Israel's only ally, the US), the taking of a POW is not illegal (and neither is not letting the Red Cross see him, since Hamas is not a country nor a signatory to the Geneva Conventions.) you'll recognize this defense as "This is why Israel doesn't have to say whether it has nuclear weapons. They never signed the NPT."
When the one prisoner held by the Palestinians is released will Israel release the 10,000 Palestinians held in gaol, most without charge, including thousands of children? Even on an Israeli ratio that sounds fair: one Israeli or Jew equals 10,000 Palestinians or Moslems or Christians.
shalit didn't harm anyone, he was on israel territory when attacked and kidnapped. More arab lies, as usual...
you are insane, where do you get your info, the Iran Times? LOL
Would carter and those like him be willing to become human shields when the new missiles from Iran start falling in Israel? I do believe Israel should lift more of the Land blockade, never the sea. They should also allow limited exports such as Fruits and Flowers for the EU. I'm glad Carter is no longer the US President as he would surrender to terrorist for peace.
Jimmy you senile old peanut brain Begin, Sadat, Arafat and Rabin are all waiting for you to join them. You were a failure as president we already have your protoge in the White House and he is bad enough so do the whole region a favor and butt out of issues that do not concern you and you don't understand. Hope it doesn't damage your ego biut nobody would buy your book here unless there was a shortage of toilet paper.
Bought it. Read it. He speaks the truth. Not ad hominym attacks like your post.
How dare call for the death of President Jimmy Carter. This is absolutely disgraceful. Aren't there any monitors here? As much as I despise people like Leiberman, I would never hope for their death. You are not fit to shine the shoes of President Carter.
The fact that pittiful little thugs like you continue to go after Carter proves he is a man of conscience and a leader for peace. Knock yourself out, dude. Tell us what the Rabin-murdering pro-settler Zionists really think.
He came to sell his book to the Arabs. Nobody takes this pseudo anti-Semites seriously.
Being opposed to illegal acts ( under International Law ) by Israel does not equate to anti-semitism. FYI - Arabs are Semites also.
Why do the So called Elders not mention return of Schalit, rockets or the knocking down of the Fatah govt in Gaza?
Shalit has nothing to do with the blockade, the rockets are war crimes, (and no one has ever said otherwise), and because Hamas won the elections and survived a US-backed coup de tat by Fatah.
Does Jimmy Carter not think that the firing of rockets from Gaza into Israel is " one of the most serious human rights violations on Earth and it must be stopped fully" If he does why does he not spell it out to Hamas.
2000lb bombs on apartment house to kill one man?
I just wonder how much the syrians paid one of Carter's foundation. he should be forced to wear a sign after vetting the Chavez election-"Ex-President For Sale."
After Reagan had to be elected to the Presidency to bail you out of Iran-hostage crisis, I don't think that anyone in their right mind is going to take your advise too seriously. Still, if you can get Gilad Shalit released and get Hamastan (the Gaza Strip) to stop shooting projectiles into Israel and to sign a permanent peace treaty, then I'm sure that Israel will lift the blocade. However, that would not apply to the West Bank (Fatahland).
Who needs enemies when peanut brain Carter is there to guide the world. How does the USA consistently elect so many seriously incompetent presidents, who are the leaders of the 'free' world but dont have a clue as to what is going on?
Originally, the "Gaza siege" policy was motivated as the means to make the Gaza population unhappy with Hamas rule and induce them to overthrow it. It didn't work, and actually should not have been expected to work because historically, Arab masses do not overthrow rulers, Arab militaries do that, but in Gaza Hamas IS the military. The policy failed to achieve its goal, but was continued nevertheless under changing explanations (the latest was the Shalit excuse). Only after the "flotilla" debacle is the policy changing. How much damage can a pointless, visibly failed policy cause? 1. For the Turkish-led "flotilla" incident, read the various articles, and consider in addition that the UN may become more inclined to send the Goldstone Report to the Hague. Also, the governing Islamic party in Turkey might have found the excuse to break relations with Israel, which it avoided doing for fear of the Turkish military. The Turkish military might now be convinced that this has to be done. 2. Operation Cast Lead (late 2008) was caused by the pointless "siege" policy. Hamas offered to continue the then prevailing cease fire provided that Israel lifts the siege. Israel refused. Result: Abbas had to stop peace negotiations with Israel. Olmert said he was very close to a deal with the PA, but then Cast Lead "happened". No, idiot, it didn't just happen, Olmert preferred the "siege" over a peace deal. Such an incredible choice should go into the history books!
There are and always have been serious reasons not to give up on the sea-blockade. Israel / western naval forces must make sure that Gaza can't be freely supplied with modern weaponery. Anything else would amount to suicide.
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/04/gaza200804
To Carter, USA owes the taking of power of the sandinistas in Nicaragua, of the Islamic Revolution in Iran by ending its support for the democratic monarchy of the Shah, of the annexation of Sinai by Egypt, of the expansion of communism in Africa. Now he wants to bring down the most moral country in the world by siding with an Al-Qaeda sympathizer regime in Damascus.
Did you volunteer to invade Teheran and prop up the Shah's government when he got cancer, Lavi? How much did you send the Contra drug lords?
The real Lavi - Seattle didn't write that and this is my third attempt to post this message to HaAretz for a correction.. You will know my real posts as they won't have obvious grammatical errors.
HaAretz, please post this. Alpayim todot motek!
Being Anti Semitic is one of the most serious human rights violations on Earth and it must be lifted fully.
for ordering their colleagues to their deaths in an ill-conceived, unplanned rescue run just so you can score brownie points in the election.
And Desert One was meticulously planned. But Sea Stallions don't have sand filters. And pilot error sometimes happens.
Delta Force (Army) was there as well. The plan was flawed from the beginning. If you admit the Sea Stallions did not have proper filters, that shortcoming was presented properly to the peanut farmer. He made the decision that his re-election was worth more than the service personnel lives. THAT IS A FACT! And it was deemed NOT to be pilot error but wrong equipment. So what's a few lives when Jimbo's future was at stake.
Let's check the list: weapons. Hmm, Carter does have good intentions.
You forgat that thanks to his lidership and persistence Soviet Block signed Helsinki Accords and that was the beginning of the end of Soviet Era As a result of that hunreds of thousends of Soviet Jews got the chance to emigrate.
One point of view which is accepted by Carter backers. Republicans might have a different point of view?
One point of view which is accepted by Carter backers. Republicans might have a different point of view?
Time would also have solved that without him... and anyway he can't be blamed for getting mentally confused at old age ? maybe he thinks he is doing good as the end is nearer ? whatever past success r no guarantee for the future or r u a blind follower ?
you are too big a dope to say anything other than go read a history book, stupid
There is peace between Israel and Egypt. That is why they hate Carter. They hate the very idea of peace. That thousands of IDF soldiers have not died in Sinai wars for the last 30 years is the worst thing that can happen in their sado-masochist world.
The Helsinki conference began in 1973 and the Agreement was signed in 1975. Carter was president from 1977 to1981. Although Carter strongly supported the Helsinki Agreement, he was not responsible for it and had nothing to do with the Soviets signing it. It wasn't until the late 1980s, years after Carter's presidency, that Jews were able to leave the Soviet Union, and only in 1990 that they began leaving by the thousands.
He was a peanut farmer, he still is a peanut farmer
He also is a strong advocate for Habitat for Humanity. He also believed that the Ayatolah Khomeini had the good will equivalence of Mother Theressa or Billy Graham.
They should follow his thinking further than just one step. Carter is not saying "Step one lift blockade. Step two destroy Israel" as some Zionists fantasize.
Step 2 is important weapons, right?
It's pretty obvious if Israel removes it's blockade within a year Hamas will get advanced weaponry and threaten even more Israeli citizens.
If you want his "Step 2" you have to ask him. But he is not a sycophant, like Israel prefers to deal with. He offers fairness.
It's also pretty obvious that 1) Palestinians who are not involved in violence (i.e., the majority) should not be punished only for the convenience of Israelis, 2) Carter is not anti-Israel and he is particularly not pro-Syrian, but he has a sense of proportion and fairness, 3) Hamas wants weapons for a reason. Their violence has not arisen in a vacuum. If enough Israelis are not able to view the Palestinian viewpoint Israel will go by the wayside. Israel as a state must either adapt to reality and justice or it will not last in it's current form. Carter recognizes that.
I guess I must have missed something along the way. I thought Hamas won an election which Israel said should not be held but Brightboy Bush wanting to back up his claims of "freedom" for Iraqis supported the election and lookie here "Whot happen'd". Jim
Why do they let him out?
Who cares what he or the 'elders' say.
Another. And that's what Carter is doing by criticizing Israel. It;s too bad that the US Government does not realize that it's blind support of Israel will harm it in the long run...
You know very well that Carter is no true friend to Israel. True friends don't lie out of both sides of their mouth about another friend.
A true friend does not CONSTANTLY critisize.
... unless you CONSTANTLY justify your friend's criticism, no?
what i am trying to understand here is why when one person speaks out one bad word about isreal you all become haters to him but when this same person kill a palestinien child for isreal he becomes your best friend and a supporter of isreal.... learn to accpet Criticism
A true friend will also criticize Hamas and even more harshly than his supposed friend. Carter does nothing of the sort. He SUPPORTS the worst enemies of Israel, Hamas, Hizballah. He is a bad friend to the PALESTINIANS, who live under the oppression of these terrorist groups.
If Israel lifted its blockade on Gaza and the awaiting Iranian weapons of mass destruction flood in and a Hamas high tide of violence ebbs up on Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, then the IDF would be pressed to respond to these acts of war with a gutting of Gaza that would involve the deaths of tens of thousands of both Hamas militants and their closely knitted civilian cover. Then what will Carter have to say or offer to help Gaza recover from this nightmare scenario? Ex-President Carter, if you're so antsy to help the Palestinians in Gaza perhaps you should move there and establish "Habitat for Inhumanity" and honestly use the sacrificial funds donated from the West to hire Hamas thugs and loafers over there and put them to work actually doing something useful and learning a proper trade and soon beautiful condos will dot this extremely desirable section of the gorgeous Mediterranean coastline. Hopefully, not a dollar will be left over for even one bullet as it's not needed if a peaceful and prosperous Gaza is really the intent of its people.
read today's paper.
This disgusting anti-Semite has really lost it. He says: "The blockade is one of the most serious human rights violations on Earth and it must be lifted fully" Wonder if he can even find Sudan on a map?
as they do the rest of the leaders in the usa
i guess the blockade must be lifted because not enough Jews are dying in Israel. He must long for the days of the Intafada
Carter needs to help his own people and stop Hating on Israel
The comic was better than the President. At least the comic brought meaning to its publication. Thinking people are allergic to THIS peanut.
there's no crisis, no people dying, they have water resorts - focus on saudi arabia, iran, africa and afgani where people lose limbs, are getting murdered along with collective sanctioned rapes. allah has taught his people well - the world has no demand for facts
its about human lives?
Disgusting! The Peace Noble Prize Winner J Carter doesn't conceive of The Hamas Rule of Gaza as a DE FACTO horrendous human rights violation, a retarding calamity befallen upon the Palestinian fellow... He criticizes the Israeli blocade aimed at directly protecting the Israeli citizen from the effects of this "Humanitarian Rule" and indirectly paving the way for a more hopeful future for the Palestinians themselves.... Accepting and through his visit legitimizing a Hamas forum in Syria J Carter may also tacitly encourage the already existing competition and cooperation in the effectivity of Anti Israeli Terror between Hisballah and Hamas. Is this former US president stagying this menace in the name of the Christian World Peace Message? Sylvia Sztern-SempreLovingM.G.
Rest assured that Carter does not speak for this old fundementalist. Carter's world view with regard to Israel is based on the allegorical interpretation of the Christian Bible as promoted by Saint Augustine. It has been proven to be a false theology. See my other talkback for more details. Shalom
still alive and meeting with other antisemites? Get lost will you????
This trio of scum has out done itself with this phoney feel good tour of the middle east where they go around bashing Israel with stupid remarks like Cater's cage comment. Its another pathetic attempt to be seen as relevent. But in reality, they are not relevent and what they say means nothing more than the dribble we hear from the other haters. Don't these morons ever get tired of trying to stir up anti Israeli hatred under the guise of trying to help the Palestinians. We know they are corrupt Jew hating anti semites so who cares what they do say. And don't take my word, didn't Carter just get done apologizing to Jews in America for being one sided ... yes he did .. so whats next, he then turns around and gives us this show of contempt for Israel. Truth is that no one cares what these clowns say any more, they are old, over the hill and exposed as anti semites. They have so discredtied themselves by being overtly biased that these tours do nothing but stir up the palestinains instinctively who latch onto anyone or anything that will attack Israel. In the end, it does neither group any good other than enjoying trying to hurt Jews. And you can add the EU minister of Hate .... Ashton to the list.
doesn't give the right of calling them ant semtic but shows your own racism .israelis policies stink and the world knows this
In fact, your sentences look exactly like those who were applied to Jews, before Israel existed. Only one thing doesn't change: hate.
Jimmmy Carter has done more to promote international terrorism than anyone other than Arafat and Bin Laden themselves. It is ironic that even as Abbas recoils and distances himself from the Assad's terrorist agenda, Carter pays homage and uses the opportunity to - yes you guessed it - once again criticize Israel.
Only president that have told the truth about the horrific occupation.
The truth about occupation is that it would be finished if Arafat had accepted Clinton's plan. As a punishment, he never saw his dream come true. How many PA chiefs will pass away before Palestinians see peace?
this guy is on another planet......
As soon as the border is open in gaza hamas will spend all the european aid on weaponry and will be at war with israel within 6 months. Carter hasn't a clue...Maybe never did
Is there some historical injustice which has never been addressed?
and maybe israel will have peace
Don't forget Arabs still occupy (and ethnically cleansed) Morocco, Algeria, Lybia, Tunisia, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria plus some minor countries. They also ethnically cleansed the Jews from most of these countries and some others. The profits from this looting has not been given to their "Palestinian brothers" but made some of the wealthy Arabs even more wealthy.
So that was just our imagination when Gaza sent 8,000 rockets into Israel following the withdrawal?
Older does not necessarily mean wiser.
So far, following the Turkish flotilla incident, Israel has decided to allow into Gaza all items except those fit for military use. What remains of the "siege" is not allowing the Export of finished goods even if raw materials can come in, as well as the prevention of movement of Gazans in and out of that territory (irrespective of security considerations). The inability to export essentially destroys the Gaza economy, rendering the population destitute and in need of food relief. With exports, the Gazans will not be in need of relief and all future air/flotilla private initiatives will become pointless. Here is a good way to put an end to this problem once and for all: Just lift the rest of the "siege". And here is another reason: a legal opinion (by the UN's Human Rights Council): "The [Goldstone] Report states that Israeli acts that deprive Palestinians in the Gaza Strip of their means of subsistence, employment, housing and water, that deny their freedom of movement and their right to leave and enter their own country, that limit their rights to access a court of law and an effective remedy, could lead a competent court to find that the crime of persecution, a crime against humanity, has been committed"- unhchr.ch/huricane/huricane.nsf/0/9B63490FFCBE44E5C1257632004EA67B?opendocument . In any event, the prevention of airplanes and ships going into Gaza is justified by security concerns. Once the "siege" is lifted, there will be no humanitarian reason for air/flotilla incidents, and it will become acceptable to use military force against such "invaders".
Stop attacking Israel.
Israel might stop controlling movement of Pals and stealing their land. Just a suggestion.
Hamas and Israel are still in a state of war, which most people prefer to forget, crimes against humanity dont apply to 2 warring state, by law Israel only have to provide living conditions that provide the bare mininum of food and shelter, which Israel provides both, Carter should never demand a lift of the siege without demanding peace from Hamas, but this is the backwards world we live in.
1. There is a difference between what one HAS to do, and what one CAN do to get HIMSELF out of a bad situation. As I state, it will be good for ISRAEL itself to allow exports, for example. Nobody bars it. Read my post again. 2. Competent experts in international law have concluded that the Gaza siege is a "crime against humanity". I am quoting here the Goldstone opinion, but the recent HRC commission for investigating the Flotilla incident also came to that conclusion. With all due respect to your legal opinion, I don't believe you should rely on it against expert, especially since you seem oblivious to the existence of internationally binding laws of war.
you mean state of occupation and feeble resistance. The occupier in this case has one of the largest and most modern military forces on the planet (F15's, Apache's, Cobra's, UAV's, tanks, hi-tech field artillery, satellite reconaissance, guided missiles, submarines, warships, the list goes on), while the resistance has some small fire arms, mortars, home-made rockets, and some no-tech rockets. Yeah, that makes for much of a state of war as you say. Oh, and all the while, the armored bulldozers are demolishing Palestinian homes while the IDF makes sure to supress any rock throwers with their assault rifles. Sure, that sound like "two warring states" as you say! The harder you try to rationalize and justify what israel does, the more ridiculous you sound
they never had a self-sustaining economy, they're all on UN welfare refuge relief to the tune of million/m and $50 million in armaments from Iran each year.
by your explanation the Nazis should have gone free because they were at war Hamas is not a State just like the Jewish people were not a state in 1939. please think before you type.
Israel is not doing anything like Nazis did to Jews. No ghettos, no concentration camps and no death camps. What the Hamas is doing to Gilad Shalit is getting closer to the Nazi way of doing things. So please, "think before you type" is an advice you should follow yourself, provided you are able to. Or you'll win all the Godwin points.
The final year of his presidential tenure was marked by the 1979 takeover of the American embassy in Iran and holding of hostages by Iranian students, an unsuccessful rescue attempt of the hostages, fuel shortages, bla bla By 1980, Carter's popularity had eroded. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter
He is not done flirting with Terrorists.
what I find astounding with these so called"peace maker", they all have one thing in common, that is they never bring up the problem of the rockets being sent into Israel, Why is that? just wondering
The world doesn't shower you with praise or buy your worthless book if your just stopping rockets. Now you decide to associate yourself with and champion the palestinians then you become a hero and the give you Nobel Prizes. men looking for a solution address both sides of the conflict whilst men with an ego champion the underdog everybody feels sorry for. Jimmy the peanut is a man with an ego.
Carter belongs in a nursing home!!! He's mentally ill...