• Published 08:04 10.06.10
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Abbas tells U.S. Jews: I would never deny Jewish right to the land of Israel

Palestinian president meets with leaders of the American Jewish community in Washington, interviews with Charlie Rose.

By Natasha Mozgovaya Tags: Israel news Palestinians Mahmoud Abbas Jewish world

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas told U.S. Jewish leaders on Wednesday that he would never deny Jews their right to the land of Israel, according to participants of the two-hour roundtable discussion.

Some 30 Jewish leaders from organizations such as AIPAC, the Anti-Defamation League, and the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations took part in the Washington meeting, which focused mainly on the indirect peace talks and violent incitements.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas at the Presidential Palace in Hanoi, Vietnam

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas at the Presidential Palace in Hanoi, Vietnam in May, 2010.

Photo by: Reuters

"I am sure some people don't agree with him but the fact that everybody showed up was pretty encouraging," one of the participants told Haaretz..

The Palestinian president said during the discussion that he had in the past proposed creating a trilateral commission to monitor and punish incitement, but that Israel did not agree to it.

When asked what he could offer Israelis to show that he was serious about peace initiatives, Abbas reminded the participants that he had addressed the Israeli public in an interview on Channel 10. "Why wouldn't Bibi go to Palestinian TV and do the same?" said the Palestinian president.

"I would never deny [the] Jewish right to the land of Israel," Abbas then declared.

Later on Wednesday, Abbas told Charlie Rose in an interview on PBS that Israel must agree to ceding East Jerusalem as the Palestinian capital as a necessary precondition for any peace settlement.

"East Jerusalem is occupied territory. The entire world recognizes that including the United States of America," Abbas told Rose. "We cannot accept any solution that excludes East Jerusalem."

During that interview, Abbas also lauded Barack Obama's administration and its efforts to bring forth a two-state solution.

"This is the first time we hear from a U.S. administration talking about that the solution of a two-state solution is in the vital interest of the United States," said Abbas.

"The two-state solution is no longer only a Palestinian interest or an Israeli interest or a Middle East interest, but it is also an American interest."

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  • 63. 34 19
    Olah, re: #25 It's funny, isn't it?; that Israel always demanded that its right to exist be recognized by the Palestinians
    • yo'duh
    • 10.06.10
    • 20:45

    then once that recognition came, it morphed into the demand they recognize Israel as a Jewish state; which essentially renders its Palestinian citizens to a non-entity status. This pretty much highlights the fact that both demands by Israel were, and are, preconditions meant to impede a final status agreement. Israel has proclaimed itself a Jewish state, and you mince words when in fact that is in implicit in the Palestinians recognition of Israel's right to exist. Israel realizes the humiliation it involves otherwise - which is why it uses it as a precondition. Neither you nor Israel will be satisfied even if they did explicitly voice it - the demand would simply morph into another.

  • 62. 23 20
    I will never trust the culture of destruction
    • Persian Empire
    • 10.06.10
    • 20:34

    The man received $ 400 Millions aids which most of that aid will go to his packet and his gangs, so$ 400 millions for to see would never deny Jewish right to land of Israel, We Persian have experience of 1400 years of lie from this culture the Jews should know them much better than us beside let assume he did not lie who will make his guarantee his word, what about in future Hamas will take over of west bank territory?

  • 61. 29 30
    Here is what he said in Arabic
    • Bernard
    • 10.06.10
    • 20:29

    "We'll sacrifice victims until Jerusalem is ours" "Fatah will continue to sacrifice victims until Jerusalem will be returned [to the Palestinians], clean of settlements and settlers." You see? No distinction between the eastern and western halves of the capital, nor does it distinguish between the territories within the Israeli side of the Green Line and the areas captured by Israel in the 1967 Six-Day War.

  • 60. 10 2
    Just add right of return and then the list is done
    • Gil
    • 10.06.10
    • 20:05

    E. Jerusalem, blockade in Gaza, construction - all he has to do is demand the right of return and then the list is done.

  • 59. 23 16
    LIAR!! PROHIBITED SALE OF LAND TO JEWS
    • dEAN bLAKE
    • 10.06.10
    • 20:04

    Fatah just passed a law prohibiting the sale of land owned by an Arab to a Jew. How could it be any more explicit that Arabs who sell either get murdered or are forced to flee the county with their money.

  • 58. 9 13
    Takkiya?
    • Ali
    • 10.06.10
    • 19:43

    I remember takkiya from oslo accords inwhich ISrael accepted the establishment of Palestine but suddenly retreated after accords. You don't trust, do you trust Israel state?

  • 57. 20 8
    Abbas
    • Philippe
    • 10.06.10
    • 19:42

    unfortunately he says the opposite while speaking in arabic.

  • 56. 11 5
    So, did US jews applaud Mr.Abbas declaraion?
    • Tony Silver - Kopenhagen
    • 10.06.10
    • 19:31

    "I would never deny [the] Jewish right to the land of Israel," Abbas declared.

  • 55. 33 14
    Abbas say it in arabic....
    • Lee
    • 10.06.10
    • 18:40

    Abbas, say it in Ramallah in Arabic. say it in from a podium in the west bank on the street. tell them that the arabs would never deny Jews their right to the land of Israel. the arab have yet to do that. in english they'll say whatever you want to hear, in arabic they praise murderes and that Jews have no rights to anything.

  • 54. 30 36
    Abbas: The "Peace of Saladin"
    • mtlonewolf
    • 10.06.10
    • 18:22

    Most people think that a man can be taken at his word. What many do not understand is the double speak/double standards that exist in the eastern mindset and are justified in the Islamic community, and not viewed as immoral, but rather honored and justified. In the 12th Century there was a midieval Muslim warlord named Saladin who made a treaty of convenience and subterfuge with Richard the Lionheart during the days of the Crusades. It was not a treaty of honor, but rather one of intentional deception and ploy, and of course it was broken by Saladin by design. The Arabic community understands full well about this history and they actually revere this individual and wish to emulate that behavior, considering it a great honor. Yasser Arafat himself loudly and proudly proclaimed that he would give to Israel "The Peace of Saladin", knowing his audience understood the inference to deception and strategy, not intent upon honoring any treaty at all. This philosophy is what and who we deal with in Abbas who has many linnocent ives and much blood upon his hands, a known murderer and facilitator of the PLO and it's radical Islamic cause and agenda. Their 3 stage strategy for eliminating Israel and reclaiming ALL of the land they once dominated, is in progress. They are not to be trusted or given credibility...not according to Western values, perceptions, and honor. Their Islamic purpose is overriding and it does not separate "church from state", it is one...and it is their duty to overthrow and subdue the "infidels" and our "contamination" of their world, starting with Israel and extending to the rest of the Western world. Don't be naive and uneducated about such things. Google it and find out.

  • 53. 9 6
    This is a step forward
    • 10.06.10
    • 18:22

    at least now they accept our right to part of the land

  • 52. 17 7
    Get real! They only want 30%
    • ben
    • 10.06.10
    • 18:17

    It would help people understand better that when the pals say east Jerusalem they mean the two Arab sections of the city and not the whole part.

  • 51. 5 6
    Abbas tels U.S Jews
    • 10.06.10
    • 18:17

    no comment

  • 50. 6 14
    LESS TALK, MORE ACTION
    • steve
    • 10.06.10
    • 18:09

    Sorry, I meant to say SOME action. This man is powerless. He was forced out of Gaza and won't negotiate directly with Israel.

  • 49. 22 6
    Glad to Hear It
    • Jane
    • 10.06.10
    • 18:05

    Abbas is saying all the right things. Now let's see him do the right things. If he can deal with Netanyahus idiot of a government then he deserves all of our compliments. I wish him good luck with that.

  • 48. 10 10
    Thought halting settlement construction was the prerequisite for negotiation
    • Gil
    • 10.06.10
    • 17:54

    How anybody could accept what he is selling is beyond reason.

  • 47. 6 26
    Yeah right!
    • Winston
    • 10.06.10
    • 17:53

    I will never deny jews right after they quit at their land, and of course, Jizyah (Dhimmi), and not allowed in military, and excepting political issues, and women bear burkas, and non-muslims walking beside sidewalks and bearing armstripe, and wearing dark clothes, and...........

  • 46. 24 10
    its Golden Chance for Israel..
    • Eng Waleed - Gaza
    • 10.06.10
    • 17:50

    yes its a golden chance to the israeli people that our prisedent Abbas is exist ,, I mean when he will leave the Presidency I think that the new president after Abbas will not be merciful for Israeli forcess and israeli people and I think that the P.L.O will return to the Armed struggle and the first Affected will be the israeli people ........ its my advice for Jewish and israeli people to take this chance and ciding Jerusalem as a capital for us ....... I send my greetings to my president Abu-Mazen .......

  • 45. 3 18
    east J for them, then no return for them
    • david
    • 10.06.10
    • 17:49

    can't have both - pick one PAls

  • 44. 28 15
    Nothing He Will Do Will Be Enough
    • Yaakov Sullivan
    • 10.06.10
    • 17:09

    How will what Abbas said be received by these defenders of every jot and title of Israeli policy? Not enough. They will huff and puff that he calls for East Jerusalem! The impossible! How can that be? Does he deny the Jewish people their entire eternal capital! Huff, huff. Indignation, a raising of the eyes to heaven. NEVER!! they will chortle. And as for a 2 state solution with EJ as Palestines capital? Where does Abbas think this viable and contiguous site will be? What are to be the logistics of it? And even if Israel were to agree to removing these colonies how would they do it without bringing about a civil war in Israel?

  • 43. 16 4
    But they will deny your right to the land
    • European
    • 10.06.10
    • 17:08

    That is a fact, this is a state that sees its minorities in the same way Jews are seen and have been seen throughout Europe and the world, as a demographic problem - this man is no arafat, a man who can galvanize people - before arafat the Palestinian cause not an international issue, he made it, people debated about the existence of Palestinians (deny even the RIGHT that they even EXIST) now NO ONE debates that- Arafat made this and much more happen - this man is weak - hence the west and Israel chose to deal with him .

  • 42. 33 25
    It Will Never Be Enough
    • Yaakov Sullivan
    • 10.06.10
    • 17:05

    For these zionist propagandists and apologists. No matter what Abbas does, it will not be enough. They will snap and snarle and hold him in contempt that he demands East Jerusalem! The

    • 27 19
      And the same is true for Israel Yaakov
      • Gil
      • 10.06.10
      • 17:48

      You know that there is nothing Israel can do to appease Fatah, Hamas, and others short of ceasing to exist.

    • 26 14
      The Illusion Israel Must Propagate
      • Yaakov Sullivan
      • 10.06.10
      • 18:21

      This "cease to exist" mantra must be kept going for the zionists. It must. Keep it going. If not, they would have to compromise which is anathema for them. The fact is that Israel has peace with Jordan. It has peace with Egypt. Even under the list of agreesive actions taken by Israel against the Palestinians, these nations have continued in a state of non belligerency with the agressor. The Palestinians recognise Israel. Did I not say the words of Abbas to the Jewish leaders of the US would be held in contmpt and not enough for them. This poster proves my point. Could Israel have had a long term hudna with Hamas if it had not carried out Opreation Cast Lead and their murderous actions against the flotilla? Yes. Is a hudna ideal? No. But it would have brought about a state of non-belligerency during which more could have been achieved. Israel must make sure that this mantra of they want us to cease to exist is kept up. It serves as their cover.

    • 15 13
      Who are you calling a Zionist
      • Gil
      • 10.06.10
      • 19:25

      Is everyone who doesn't agree with you a Zionist? You demonstrate your true racist colors every time you deny the validity of the other side of this issue. I do not expect you to change.

    • 11 17
      The cease to exist mantra is based in reality
      • Gil
      • 10.06.10
      • 19:26

      Saying that it is not true is a lie that will never be true until Israel's enemies explicitly refer to Israel by name and announce that they accept her right to exist.

    • 9 11
      You will only accept this as fact when Israel is gone
      • Gil
      • 10.06.10
      • 19:35

      and will that make you happy?

  • 41. 11 31
    Double talk just like helen thomas
    • Daneil
    • 10.06.10
    • 16:54

    can you trust poisonous snake? I would not untill it defunged...

  • 40. 10 28
  • 39. 7 13
    Abbas
    • balanga
    • 10.06.10
    • 16:44

    wonders never cease to amaze. What's interesting is who voted AGAINST 194... Arabs & Muslims (Pakistan). Monitor incitement? PWM & MEMRI are already doing a pretty good job. Never deny Jews' right to Israel: Israel's creation was and is a catastrophe (Naqbah). Never was any connection between Jews and the land. His own words - Jewish state is invalid Celebration of terrorists (e.g. Quntar, Magrabi) PA's worldwide incitement against Israel (Apartheid, boycotts, etc...) The list goes on, not to mention his own history as a Shoah denyer....

  • 38. 25 10
    Abbas tells U.S. Jews: I would never deny Jewish right to the land of Israel
    • Moshe - Haifa, Israel
    • 10.06.10
    • 16:42

    Abbas, so far your actions seem to indicate that you deny the rights of the Palestinians to have a state on the lands that belong to the Palestinians. You are no more than an American and an Israeli puppet. You care more about yourself than the Palestinian people. You have never stood your ground against america and Israeli actions and always backed down in the end. Shame on you!! You are a discrace to your people.

    • 14 3
      abbas
      • observer
      • 10.06.10
      • 17:29

      thank you moshe, this man needs to have his own vision which is the independent vision that reflects the true vision of the whole palestinian people not just his inner circle

    • 3 6
      Moshe or Moosa?
      • timerider
      • 10.06.10
      • 20:35

      As Moosa, I can hear you. If it is Moshe, what are you doing in Haifa? you are denying your own rights to exist. Why aren't you moving to the west bank? You will feel better there.

  • 37. 8 18
    mahmoud abbas
    • rami
    • 10.06.10
    • 16:00

    mahmoud abbas the right man, we can trust of him

  • 36. 5 17
    he sold his sole
    • Jason
    • 10.06.10
    • 15:59

    Abbas would have sold his sole for much less than $400 million. He cares more about the Jews than the Palestinians! He is a Jew.

  • 35. 17 14
    How About Denying Jewish Rights To Their Holiest Place In Their "Land Of Israel", The Temple Mount, When You Get Your Palestinian State?
    • Lavi - Seattle
    • 10.06.10
    • 15:57

    Isn't this the same guy a while back that boldly proclaimed that if Israel went to war in Gaza against Hamas that he would side with his "brothers" there and also fight against Israel? The black cloud following over the heads of the Palestinians is self-seeded.

    • 5 0
      FIRST POST EVER
      • Agustin
      • 10.06.10
      • 18:20

      i always read the talkbacks cause its interesting and sometimes really funny but this is my first post.i couldnt let pass this one. Lavi and everyone im tired of reading this type of posts, why doenst everyone start thinking before u write nonsense shit. What do u excpect from a palestinian leader says if hes asked this kind of question.Its obviously hes going to answer that if hes planning to be aleader some more tr some more time.

  • 34. 12 18
    Abbas and UN 194
    • Jacques
    • 10.06.10
    • 15:51

    Abbas told Charlie Rose that UN 194 must be the basis of solving the refugee question. !94 states that all who left Israel and their decendants can return. That means he expects Israel to allow in 5 million Arabs. This ignores that after 1948, 850,000 Jews were forced out of the Arab countries, most settling in Israel.

    • 11 2
      He said, it must be the "basis"! So, this is negotiable.
      • Gray, Germany
      • 10.06.10
      • 19:37

      And regarding that the Nakba happened in '48, 62 years ago, letting the former residents in, if they want, should be no problem. There's not too many of them still alive. As for the descendants, they can only have a visiting right, a tourist visa for two weeks or so, of course. More isn't politically possible, that's obvious. But, again, Abbas made an offer that certainly is interesting. Why does the Netanyahu government refuse to even talk with him about the details?

    • 1 3
      He said, it must be the "basis"! So, this is negotiable.
      • Gray, Germany
      • 10.06.10
      • 19:38

      And regarding that the Nakba happened in '48, 62 years ago, letting the former residents in, if they want, should be no problem. There's not too many of them still alive. As for the descendants, they can only have a visiting right, a tourist visa for two weeks or so, of course. More isn't politically possible, that's obvious. But, again, Abbas made an offer that certainly is interesting. Why does the Netanyahu government refuse to even talk with him about the details?

  • 33. 16 8
    This is funny
    • Gully Foyle
    • 10.06.10
    • 15:38

    Netanyahu left Canada and fled home when he learned that his meeting with Obama would be held behind closed doors with no photo op of him and Obama shaking hands and smiling. He must be livid that Abbas got the royal treatment he himself coveted, not to mention $400 million in walking around money.

    • 10 3
      Netanyahu Deserves No Less
      • Jane
      • 10.06.10
      • 20:36

      thank a swift kick out the whitehouse door on his keester. Moronic PM with a moronic government that makes a joke out of US support daily. Now he's getting a taste of his own medicine. How does it feel Bibi?

  • 32. 10 12
    Abbas
    • Michael
    • 10.06.10
    • 15:21

    that's for sure, the puppet loves the money he gets from his masters....

  • 31. 16 5
    What about security?
    • Gully Foyle
    • 10.06.10
    • 15:18

    Abbas said that he had in the past proposed creating a trilateral commission to monitor and punish incitement, but that Israel did not agree to it.

  • 30. 19 15
    Abbas Needs to Retire
    • Baloney
    • 10.06.10
    • 15:10

    He sits down with people who clearly are against the idea of peace and Palestinian humanity, but he will not sit down with his own people to reconcile and talk peace. Mahmoud Abbas is a two-faced, impotent hypocrite who needs to step down.

  • 29. 8 19
    Abas's doctoral Thesis
    • ky
    • 10.06.10
    • 15:07

    “ The Zionist movement led a broad campaign of incitement against the Jews living under Nazi rule to arouse the government's hatred of them, to fuel vengeance against them and to expand the mass extermination. ”—Mahmoud Abbas So in fact according to Abbas's thesis Zionism deliberately helped the Nazis. This was at a time when Jews in europe were already on their knees facing total anihilation. It makes a lot of sense.... if you already hate Jews and wish to see them all vanish.

  • 28. 21 5
    What's so surprising ?
    • Sam Soul
    • 10.06.10
    • 15:07

    I'd love to hear one single (jewish) American or Israeli say something like that ! even Arafat said something like that ! When an israeli leader has the guts to make such declaration, please let us know !! In the meantime, israelis have a very long way to go !! palestinians have already done that.

  • 27. 8 4
    good news for usa jews?
    • mr jay
    • 10.06.10
    • 15:00

    Is he inviting all usa jews to come back and settle in Israel ?

  • 26. 21 18
    Lets see he repeat it in Arabic on PA TV - same double talk which has been done to death
    • Ron
    • 10.06.10
    • 14:26

    Yes , we know the game. The famous Double Talk used in the Middle East. Let him say it in Arabic on PA TV - not in English in Washington. The US resolution which is called on the creation of the state of Israel and a Palestinian state - clearly defined Israel as the home for the Jewish people - and the other for Palestinian , YET Abbas repeatedly stated that he does not agree to say that Israel is a Jewish state (as pushed by Israeli government) - that is denial or the original division. He is happy to talk in code , and double talk. If he recognized Israel as a Jewish state (same as the PA claims it is an Islamic state) it would go a long long way to clam feelings of a Trojan Horse - but in ARABIC on PA Television.

    • 19 9
      Not just a Jewish state
      • Marie
      • 10.06.10
      • 15:28

      The days of the battles for the preservation of the purity of the race are over. America is a multiracial society, Europe is a mix of Christians, Jews and Muslims and 25% of the Israeli population is arab, the future Palestine, the Westbank counts half a million Jews. Racism, exclusion and apartheid are condemned in the civilized world now!

    • 12 16
      Exclusion, apartheid, etc.
      • Jacques
      • 10.06.10
      • 15:57

      When the Saudi's allow churches and synagogues to be built, we can have this discussion again. Jews live as minorities all over the world. Arabs can live as a minority in Israel and elsewhere. Abbas also stated that Palestine would have no Israelis. Racist?

  • 25. 28 3
    Well let's get on with the talks then!
    • Mark
    • 10.06.10
    • 13:29

    I'm well surprised by that statement...as soon as we can start talks, the better... The problem is Hamas though. We could just negotiate with Fatah..Egypt would help us with Gaza, if a proper peace settlement was done with Fatah? I want to be excited, but is this too premature? I want the violence to stop :'(

    • 16 15
      Listen carefully to what he doesn't say
      • Olah
      • 10.06.10
      • 15:22

      He DOESN'T say Israel is a Jewish state. He says he wouldn't deny Jews the right to live there. They are two very different things.

    • 14 4
      That is a valid point
      • Mark
      • 10.06.10
      • 15:41

      But, Israel exists now. This could be interpreted in that way, but he did say "Land of Israel"...the only land of Israel existing now in Eretz Israel. So I'm 80% sure we may have a realistic settlement some time soon. Imagine an Israel with normalised relations with the rest of the world, with everyone recognising the right of the Jewish people to their own homeland. Fantastic!

    • 16 4
      equal rights
      • robin
      • 10.06.10
      • 16:43

      yes, but then you would need to give the same rights to the minorities in Israel also ... which will never happen in a "Jewish state" but will do in a democratic state

    • 3 11
      pathetic
      • Markos Souza
      • 10.06.10
      • 19:10

      is really pathetic how many ppl call on Israeli society to absorb arabs (they already have the same legal rights) but none talk about how will be for jews inside a palestian state. Ohhh wait....they already made it clear...no jews will be allowed to live inside the country.

    • 12 3
      Recognition?
      • Maggie
      • 10.06.10
      • 20:39

      When has Israel ever recognized a Palestinian state? From Golda Meir's brainwashing statement to now..

    • 12 7
      Olah, it's funny, isn't it?; that Israel always demanded that its right to exist be recognized by the Palestinians
      • yo'duh
      • 10.06.10
      • 20:45

      then once that recognition came, it morphed into the demand they recognize Israel as a Jewish state; which essentially renders its Palestinian citizens to a non-entity status. This pretty much highlights the fact that both demands by Israel were, and are, preconditions meant to impede a final status agreement. Israel has proclaimed itself a Jewish state, and you mince words when in fact that is in implicit in the Palestinians recognition of Israel's right to exist. Israel realizes the humiliation it involves otherwise - which is why it uses it as a precondition. Neither you nor Israel will be satisfied even if they did explicitly voice it - the demand would simply morph into another.

  • 24. 13 31
    Jerusalem
    • Joseph Feld
    • 10.06.10
    • 13:05

    The American government -- including Obama, Biden and C|linton -- are on record as supporting Jerusalem as the united capital city of Israel. The PA could have oiffices in East Jerusalem and there could be borough govt as in London, Paris and NYC, allowing Arab East Jerusalem to elect their local govt. Security, however, would need to rest with the IDF. Otherwise a Hamas govt could lead to Iranian missiles in East Jerusalem. The 1947 UN resolution called for two states with an economic union. That may still be possible, or even extended to include Jordan which occupies 77% of British Palestine.

  • 23. 49 54
    I would never deny Jewish right to the land of Israel
    • Butch
    • 10.06.10
    • 12:42

    As usual President Mahmoud Abbas is lying through his teeth. One of the great lies in modern times is that the Israelis are in "occupied" land. They own it, and have owned it for many years legally not even taking into account that God gave them The Land. There are no Palestinian people. They are Arabs living in Palestine. Look at modern history. The lie has been perpetuated for so long people believe it as truth.

    • 29 9
      jewish right? what about palestinian right
      • Michael
      • 10.06.10
      • 15:36

      so if I understand you, there is a statute of limitations on stolen land, it goes from "occupied and colonized" to your land after how many years? god gave no land to no one...god doesn't do real estate, the UN relunctedly did with the duplicity of the west. Stealing from the pals. Does someone that steals let's say your TV, get to keep it when you know who he is? Land is no different.

    • 22 12
      No Palestinian people??
      • Thomas
      • 10.06.10
      • 15:42

      That's like saying there are no American or Canadian people, only Europeans living in America and Canada.

    • 10 15
      Thomas
      • Brad
      • 10.06.10
      • 16:15

      Not really. The point is that there has never been a Pal Peoples. Peoples are a polity and at one level or another perform the function of governance. Everyone who lived in Palestine was called Palestinain whether their origin was Syrian, jordanian, Iraqi, etc. To carry your point further, what do you think of Europeans who have moved to Canada seeking to take over part of the country on the ground that they are different and have lived here for a "long time"?

    • 18 5
      Brad
      • Thomas
      • 10.06.10
      • 16:31

      The fact is that there HAS been a Palestinian people for a very long time, regardless of how much power they had in the governing of the region. Before Israel and the British Mandate for Palestine, the region ws controlled by the Ottoman Empire, and many Palestinians called for autonomy within the empire, or full independence. It didn't matter where their ancestors were from, they still considered themselves to be Palestinian, as well as part of a larger Arab group, just like most Europeans do today (ie. most Germans consider themselves German, as well as European). As for your second point, which Europeans are you talking about? And from whom are they taking over part of the country? From present-day Canadians? Or the ingidenous population?

    • 5 16
      Thomas' "Palestinians"
      • SDHD
      • 10.06.10
      • 17:26

      If there has been a Palestinian people for a long time, how is it that pre-1948 there were Arab and Jewish Palestinians, and now there are only Arab ones? What happened to the "continuity" of the people who you claim have been there for a long time? Further, how did those who came from other parts of the Middle East become "people who have been there for a long time?"

    • 3 4
      Palestinian
      • Butch
      • 10.06.10
      • 19:00

      "The name Palestine, which the Romans had bestowed on the conquered and subjugated land of Judea which belonged to the Isrelites , had been retained for a time by the Arab conquerors to designate an administrative subdivision of their Syrian province." The name had disappeared from the region prior to the arrival of the Crusaders. The term was rediscovered in Europe at the time of the Renaissance and used to refer to what "European Christians ... previously called the Holy Land." "The name was not used officially, and had no precise territorial definition until it was adopted by the British to designate the area which they acquired by conquest at the end of World War I and ruled under mandate from the League of Nations

    • 4 8
      Canada
      • Butch
      • 10.06.10
      • 19:37

      These Europeans were not religious fanatics

  • 22. 19 6
    Puppet
    • Shaji
    • 10.06.10
    • 12:40

    He say what he is asked to do by his masters. Nothing surprising in his statement.

  • 21. 12 26
    Now! Syria Must Be Told To Not Even Think About It...
    • Yosemite
    • 10.06.10
    • 12:27

    I don't write very often now but you Israelis know what I mean. Syria and Iran and Al Qaeda should be put on notice that if they are even thinking bad thoughts right now, they will be smoked.

  • 20. 18 5
    Behind the Green Line
    • Mehmet Y
    • 10.06.10
    • 12:00

    not from "river to river".

  • 19. 9 33
    response to Abbas
    • I do not believe him, they don,t recognize Israel. Where would the Jews live in this kind of Palestine?
    • 10.06.10
    • 11:40

    nice talk

  • 18. 17 46
    Doesn't count
    • Anders, Sweden
    • 10.06.10
    • 10:52

    I wish he would say this in a two-state negotiation. He's had so many chances in peace talks but has blown all of them simply by denying Jewish right to the land of Israel. Here, it doesn't count.

  • 17. 23 37
    Disingenuous
    • jake
    • 10.06.10
    • 10:48

    Abbas will say anything Washington pays him to say. Never has and never will do anything to further the Palestinian cause.

  • 16. 57 16
    Many Pals do!
    • Osama
    • 10.06.10
    • 10:35

    I am happy to hear our president saying this to the Jewish leader in the US. Many Pals share this with him but the problem is that if Israel wants to buy this there will be peace which is not in their interest. Simply because the "illusionary security threats" will no longer be valid and on that basis Israel will find itself struggling with the idea that a Palestinian state will be established. I share the president this jewish right because jews have been living there for a long time and its a holy land that belongs to all three abrahamic religions. But Israel has no right to deny the Pals right in a free independent state. Israel must declare its retreat from the Pal territories and let the Pals live in their own state.

    • 12 33
      Pal territories?
      • German Israeli
      • 10.06.10
      • 11:41

      Like i said you wont get a full 'retreat like you called it? The boarders have been standing a long time and if you wage war, you loose land. You dont hear any germans crying about Memmelland and Danzig, not anymore at leased !

    • 12 4
      Oh sure dude
      • Kanaan
      • 10.06.10
      • 12:50

      there are some germans crying about their lost territory

    • 7 12
      You dont know nothin, and who posts a comment as 'Osama' ?
      • German Israeli
      • 10.06.10
      • 14:49

      Dude I live in Germany and although i am half german i am very sceptic. I ve talked to may people and the older generation, like my Grandparent were kids in the war, they have never been there ! Maybe the Old nazi Generation who are about 100 now now that Germany. Course there are still people who have a 'Nazi' mindset, but most people now that if you cause 2 world wars you cant complain. Same for the Arabs who invaded Israel more than one time.

  • 15. 41 7
    Many Pals do
    • Osama
    • 10.06.10
    • 10:23

    I am happy to hear our president saying this to the Jewish leader in the US. Many Pals share this with him but the problem is that if Israel wants to buy this there will be peace which is not in their interest. Simply because the "illusionary security threats" will no longer be valid and on that basis Israel will find itself struggling with the idea that a Palestinian state will be established. I share the president this jewish right because jews have been living there for a long time and its a holy land that belongs to all three abrahamic religions. But Israel has no right to deny the Pals right in a free independent state. Israel must declare its retreat from the Pal territories and let the Pals live in their own state.

  • 14. 44 9
    Many Pals do
    • Osama
    • 10.06.10
    • 10:23

    I am happy to hear our president saying this to the Jewish leader in the US. Many Pals share this with him but the problem is that if Israel wants to buy this there will be peace which is not in their interest. Simply because the "illusionary security threats" will no longer be valid and on that basis Israel will find itself struggling with the idea that a Palestinian state will be established. I share the president this jewish right because jews have been living there for a long time and its a holy land that belongs to all three abrahamic religions. But Israel has no right to deny the Pals right in a free independent state. Israel must declare its retreat from the Pal territories and let the Pals live in their own state.

  • 13. 24 63
    Abbas ! you're denying it all the time !
    • ira
    • 10.06.10
    • 10:14

    Abbas ! you're denying it all the time ! Nobody is fooled by your typical arab way on saying one thing and doing another ! (Well maybe only Obama apparently is ! )

    • 60 11
      a little braingymnastic
      • Volum
      • 10.06.10
      • 10:42

      by using stereotypes like "typical arab" you're only exposing your own prejudices. Do a little test - exchange "arab" with "jew" and you might feel the smell of your own racism and might realize that the islamofobics and the antisemites have a lot in common - the neglecting of an universal human value.

    • 13 4
      to nr. 13.
      • sjoerd van der velde-hoorn-the netherlands.
      • 10.06.10
      • 13:02

      this is well said, i totally agree. universal human value and universal civil and human rights are everybody" rights always and everywhere

  • 12. 13 41
    Abbas
    • FactsRule
    • 10.06.10
    • 09:53

    From palwatch.org: "However, an examination of the Palestinian Authority leaders’ statements, official media, children’s programs and PA-controlled events creates a pessimistic picture: Every condition, principle and expectation set by the US and the Quartet for accepting the Palestinian Authority as a partner in the peace process continues to be violated by the Palestinian Authority in the first month of talks."

    • 6 3
      Oh yeah
      • JT
      • 10.06.10
      • 19:16

      Kinda like when Israel violated the cease-fire and killed 6 militants on the day of the US presidential election, hoping no one would be paying attention. Yep, always the Palestinians. Always! lol

  • 11. 38 17
    Medinat Yisrael
    • Micha Stern
    • 10.06.10
    • 09:46

    He obviously didn't mean ownership of all of Ha'aretz Yisrael, but the right to the State of Israel, for us to live and prosper in our own country, just as the Palestinians have a right to a country of their own next to us. It was probably meant as a goodwill gesture and a reassurance. Now this wrong finesse of his wording will be used against him by extremists from all sides with both ridicule and incitement. It will be best to try to ignore them.

  • 10. 20 22
    Brave or stupid?
    • Jackson
    • 10.06.10
    • 09:32

    This won't bold well in Ramallah.

    • 59 8
      Oh yeah?
      • Mat
      • 10.06.10
      • 10:02

      Been to Ramallah recently? Talked with many Palestinians there? Funnily enough I was having this discussion in a coffee shop there last week - everyone told me the same as abbas - they just wished the Israeli right held the same views about the indigenous palestinian population. And of course the Palestinians hear what he says in America - they aren't gaza - completely cut of from the world. I think you need to get out more - go see your neighbors before deciding what they think.

    • 4 9
      right
      • the turth
      • 10.06.10
      • 18:19

      are we talking about the same Ramallah? the one where there have been numerous attacks onto Israeli land? the one where Fatah leaders have established themselves and are responsible for a long list of deadly terrorist attacks?

    • 8 7
      No not same ramallah
      • Ali
      • 10.06.10
      • 19:41

      No he refers ramallah that was many times attacked by IDF. Ramallah, a part of West Bank, that has been illegally occupying by settlements. Do you know the meaning of this sentence: No justice no peace. People in Palestine want an equal state and refugees has right to return. Remember clear un resolutions. Remember Israel was established with resolutions of same instutution.

  • 9. 19 56
    Abbas tells Jews what they want to hear
    • Daniel Leopold
    • 10.06.10
    • 09:28

    Abbas tells Jews what they want to hear then he tells the Arabs also what they want to hear which is:that Palestinian refugees and their descendants,about 6 mil of them [equal in numbers to the Jewish population of Israel] have the "right of return" to that country.Not to a future Palestinian state within the armistice lines of 1949-1967 but to Israel proper. This would work extremely well if there would be a peace treaty between two states: Palestine and "Falastin" both predominantly Arab or a "one state" solution possibly named:The Islamic Republic of Absurdistan.A real peace treaty with Israel on such basis is however inconceivable.No wonder the current peace process leads nowhere.

    • 23 10
      Well, the right to return doesn't have to be a right to stay.
      • Gray, Germany
      • 10.06.10
      • 11:09

      Of course, it's not politically possible to allow millions of Palestinians to resettle in Israel. However, after the two state solution has been implemented, and a peaceful coexistence established, why shouldn't there be a visiting right for Palestinians to the places of their ancestry? And maybe the right for former residents of the area to be buried there? If reason and empathy prevailed, it would be possible to find good compromises!

  • 8. 35 3
    Bibi?
    • Uh O
    • 10.06.10
    • 09:27

    What r u going to do now?

  • 7. 30 13
    "I would never deny Jewish right to the land of Israel"
    • Blue Eyebrow
    • 10.06.10
    • 09:10

    And what do you consider as "land of Israel",Mr.Abbas?

    • 31 2
      Obviously, the borders before the 1967 war.
      • Gray, Germany
      • 10.06.10
      • 11:01

      His remark about East Jerusalem indicates this. But it's a good question. This is a point that should be clarified.

    • 8 13
      Kapo Gray and the borders
      • Hastaroth
      • 10.06.10
      • 11:59

      Before the 1967 borders,there were the 1948 borders,which the Arabs still denied. So,what borders does he consider define "Jewish land",kapo Gray?

    • 6 7
      East Jerusalem
      • Brad
      • 10.06.10
      • 16:31

      Given the history of East Jerusalem, a compelling case can be made that Pals should not have sole authority over that city. It was built by King David, a Jewish King. Its was a Jewish city until Jews were forcibly expelled by the Romans and that expulsion was furthered considerably by the Arabs who took Israel by force in the 7th century. That is when the Arabs, as was their habit, knowingly built over holy Jewish sites. Despite the expulsions and occupation there was a continuous Jewish presence in Jerusalem, concentrated in the Jewish Quarter. The Jewish Quarter was decimated, by force again, by the Pals in the 20th century and the job of cleansing all Jews was completed by the Jordanians. In short, it was through force and occupation, accompanied by extreme violence that Pals acquired control of the city. When Israel took back control in 1967, it was retaking Jewish property and the most important Jewish city in history. Having said all this, individual Pals and Pal families have lived in Jerusalem and if there is going to be a Pal state, and I have no objection to one as long as it is not a terror state (aka, Hamas), there should be some sort of division or shared jurisdiction over Jerusalem. Actually, its in everyone's economic and cultural interest to have Jerusalem as a shared multi-cultural, mult-ethnic, multi-religion based city. It will help create the richness that will make it one of the most attractive and dynamic cities in the world. Everyone gains if there is peaceful co-operation. Of course, given the various constituencies and special place of religious groups in the city, both Israelis and Pals, if they go with a shared city as opposed to a divided city over which they each have authority, will need to cede a tie breaking vote some third party and that will be difficult. The other possibility is not to do so but no activity be permitted without agreement from both sides. Anyway, its complicated. But exclusive control of East Jerusalem is out of the question. And, Jews must be permitted to live in Palestine, under the authority of the Palestinian government. I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable living there at this point in history but perhaps at some point in time.

  • 6. 12 31
    Bravo Abbas! Proud Haaretz Headline.
    • ArieR Ashkeloni
    • 10.06.10
    • 08:59

    "I would never deny [the] Jewish right to the land of Israel," said Abbas. "East Jerusalem is occupied territory. The entire world recognizes that including the United States of America," Abbas told Charlie Rose Bravo Mr president! With this logic in which the Jews are occupying the land that they have the right to have, peace is just behind the corner . Moreover, one can also be sure that you will say the same, in Arabic, once you are back to the land that the Jews have the right to have. Thank you for such a sentiments and allowances in which most of the Jews will probably be elated.

  • 5. 61 19
    just give them east jerusalem
    • sigh
    • 10.06.10
    • 08:47

    all this bloodshed for such a small part of land is so pointless. if you really believe that it's more important to control this one little area than it is to find a peaceful solution, as bibi and his gang of morons seem to, then you have issues. seriously.

  • 4. 42 33
    This Abbas is fascinating
    • Oriv
    • 10.06.10
    • 08:43

    Thanks for not giving up the rights of jews to this land. But I wonder how come you are giving up the palestinian rights to this land. Their right to return, their right to live in peace and harmony, their right to defend them self, and much more. You must be among the worst leaders, even before hamas, the palestinians might possible get. At least hamas stands up for palestinian rights, and they take more or less equally of palestinian rights like you do.

    • 24 12
      Oriv is fascinating
      • arik
      • 10.06.10
      • 10:50

      However, most probably Abbas can bring some hope to the palestinians and most likely will bring them a state. Hammas can only bring death, fear, radicalism, hanger, and will never get a state for anybody, despite some tactic gains.

  • 3. 12 19
    clear double-speak
    • joker
    • 10.06.10
    • 08:35

    That is taqiya and NOTHING else

  • 2. 12 18
    clear double-speak
    • joker
    • 10.06.10
    • 08:35

    That is taqiya and NOTHING else

  • 1. 26 37
    the pal charter
    • jochai
    • 10.06.10
    • 08:35

    I would never deny [the] Jewish right to the land of Israel," said Abbas Abbas is bound to the PLO charter; and therefore will have to fight Israel, with all means, including lies and takiyya. Not all Pals feel the same way, some Pals are friendly and want peace, but that attitude puts them in danger

    • 37 10
      And if I wrote
      • Mat
      • 10.06.10
      • 09:57

      'The Jew Character'. That would be gravely offensive - of course it would. Jochai, your thoughts are irreversably compromised by your racism.

    • 9 21
      Typo?
      • Aryeh
      • 10.06.10
      • 11:39

      I think you innocently (or not) misread what Jochai wrote. S/he wrote "Pal charter", not "Pal characheter". You owe him/her an apology.

    • 9 12
      PLO and Hamas Charters
      • mtlonewolf
      • 10.06.10
      • 18:42

      Both the charters of the PLO and Hamas are extremely explicit in calling for Israel's utter destruction and removal from what they believe to be their lands. Mahmoud Abbas reflects the larger view of the Islamic mindset by incorporating intentional deception and ploy by offering Israel (and by surrogate, the Western world...namely the USA), "The Peace of Saladin". That was a peace treaty which was never intended to be honored, and was broken at the correct strategic moment...since you cannot make an honorable treaty with "infidels". That is who we deal with in Abbas, and what he believes in, and what he honors and reveres. The 3 stage PLO strategy of gradually and progressively achieving their overall goals of getting a foothold, building up their presence and war machine, grabbing Jerusalem, and finally dislodging Israel by violence...is fully in progress. Their strategy has not changed. Why are people not aware of these things? I am amazed at people's lack of comprehension and knowledge on such things.