Dichter hints at broadening IDF action after soldier dies in Gaza

I agree with you. Israel should take over GAZA.

Natalie.! rockets fired from Gaza after Israel puled out? Why? What for? Be objective.

Lakshmi's post #83 in this talkback that we are on now addressed to Harold, Dutch, Silvienne, Natalie, Ibrahamim & friends http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/913926.html

Understand one thing, which hopefully, I'll have to say for the last time---Israel pays Arab informers who snitch on their neighbors--- In a neighborhood, everybody know what his neighbor is doing---When they're carrying pipes and materials it's observed---Otherwise the snitches wouldn't know about it---Let's use your figures of 25%..Twenty families in a building, that's 5 families and the individuals in those familes that knew about it---That's a lot of people---It's certain that the rest of the families were familiar with the activities, since they all pride themselves as being part of the community---In the states, the confiscate the house and then go to keep to keep it---In the territories, there's no way for Israel to confiscate and go to court--- Arabs have utilized extra judicial actions to fire the rockets, etc., Israel resorted to the same type of actions--- Laksshmi's post is worthless, no sources, as I said in my reply to that one, without sources, don't waste my time--

I don't want to run through a whole bunch of stuff looking for a particular post-- Lakshmi say's a lot, however, I'm still waiting for him to give checkable references for what he say's---Unless you have the URL from where he allegedly derived the information, it's his usual hoakum---I've asked him time and again, for the links, all I get is silence, and he goes on to his next fantastic claim.--- Don't ask me if anything is true unless you can supply a "neutral" reference to the information--Next time, if you ask me "Is this true" or some such question, I won't reply unless you accompanied the query with the source that I can check---Just notice his nice round figures 25,000 trees, 500 dunams...Show me where the figures came from.--You're his buddy, surely he'll tell you, or will he..???

Lakskmi, Your note couldn't be more timely as I heard one of the members of the Noble Peace Prize talk about the destructive force of war towards man and his environment. He said countries should take global action to outlaw war. I have advocated this for years. I am sure many recall Israel's destructive action towards Lebanon last year and during its first war with Lebanon. I still have images of its shocking assault on that lovely country. Those images should be taken into the international arena along with its human rights abuses & ongoing failure to deal with its criminal uprooting of Palestinians in 1948. (That's the crime of modern day Israel and it can't be swept under the rug anymore. ) If Israel wishes to maintain a credible presence in the region and in the world it must show it can act responsibly and justly towards its neighbors and the environment. I feel that's a very important message to take out there too. Thanks again, Dutch

"Let`s say you own a home, and knowingly rent it out to drug dealers---When the government raids the dealers and finds out that you knowingly rented to criminals, they confiscate the home" Right, but they are going to have to prove that I knew about the drug dealing, aren't they? Let us say that 50% of the Gazans know about/participate in rocket firing. I think the number is more like 25%, but no matter. That will leave the other 50% who are innocent. Why do they have to suffer as well? If they do, at least admit that Israel is administering collective punishment... Please read lakshmi's post and the other one I wrote to you...awaiting your replies...

This quote from lakshmi's post: "In the last couple of days the idf has gone into Beit Hanoun & bulldozed 500 dunams of agricultural land,4 wells+25,000 olive trees &fruit trees,and the roads leading to the farms" Ben, is this true? How can Israel possibly conduct such an action against the only means of support the Palestinians have? You've said the Gazans should build Gaza into a good place...how can they if the IDF is destroying their agricultural land? 25,000 olive trees destroyed...can this be true? If it is true, then it makes me sick. What possible excuse is there for killing these trees? I hope you can tell me that perhaps there's a mistake somewhere...

"Beit Hanoun used to be the principal producer of citrus fruits in Gaza.Since 2000,israel has destroyed 4,500 dunams of agricultural land there" Why oh why has the IDF done that? Why has Israel allowed it? How on earth can the Palestinians be expected to build anything out of the rubble of Gaza if their agricultural land is destroyed? This is a crime against Nature as you say...

The Palestinian's entered Israel when they fired their daily salvo of Kassam's into Israel---Israel, in turn entered Gaza trying to root out the source and people that were firing the rockets---It goes like this, cause & effect--- Rockets were the cause, Israel's raid was the effect---Once again, when there's no cause, there won't be any effect---Until then, "cry me a river"---You seem to have the idea that Gazan's can do what they want with impunity-- Let me explain it in the American context---Let's say you own a home, and knowingly rent it out to drug dealers---When the government raids the dealers and finds out that you knowingly rented to criminals, they confiscate the home-- You can check it out quite easily---Just check the Government auctions for property that was confiscated for illegal activities---

useful to keep in mind that not only does israel commit crimes against humanity,it commits crimes against Nature.In the last couple of days the idf has gone into Beit Hanoun & bulldozed 500 dunams of agricultural land,4 wells+25,000 olive trees &fruit trees,and the roads leading to the farms.Beit Hanoun used to be the principal producer of citrus fruits in Gaza.Since 2000,israel has destroyed 4,500 dunams of agricultural land there!

But the Palestinians were in their own home, Gaza; it was the IDF that entered Gaza! I understand the need to prevent attack, but in this case the Palestinians hadn't entered Israel. "Cry me a river!!!" Three choruses of "I Cry For You"....

Blessed is ben kubany who was fighting the terrorists, protecting the israel's land and citzen.

"The origin of all wisdom is to accept facts." This is the centence I see every morning on my way to work. They are the words of a Finnish leader and refer among others to the fact that Finland lost a lot of land in the war with Russia, but stayed independent and out of reach of communism. We long the lost land, but have built a country and economy that has brought prosperity to our people. The fact is that the times of Palestine will not come back, Israel is there to stay as are the Palestinians. There is no point in shelling Sderot, it will not make any difference to this fact and will not move or remove the boundaries of Gaza. You need to build your own statehood building on the strenghts of your people, the unused potential of educated and motivated people in all trades and crafts. There is no going back, only forward. Blaming others for what the world sees as self-inflicted isolation from the world is not working.

If the Palestinian's hadn't have been in IDF territory, leaving bombs around, with the intent of blowing up as many innocent Israeli's as they could, the IDF wouldn't have been in hot pursuit---I've already explained about the Copters, Jeeps and whatever, that was used--- It's just like the tunnels, the action goes in two directions---Arabs come in and terrorize, Jews chase them, just like copys & robbers--- There's no way in hell, the terrorists are going to carry out their actions without being punished for them---Civilians sheltering them, or manufacturing the explosives are no longer civilians, they're part of the terror gangs--- Cry me a river!!!

You are correct. The IDF were in Palestinian territory where they have no business to be. Accompanied by every piece of hardware they could lay hands on...a bulldozer, for goodness sake! Did they really expect the Palestinians to just stand back and accept their unwelcome presence?

There is only one hero in this story and thats Hazem Asfor the young Hamas member murdered by the misnamed idf. The telling phrase "they were in Palestinian territory" shows who was the illegal aggressor, therefore committing war crimes. The Palestinian cause will prevail because it is just. Israel will have to content itself with its day in court !

Gee, IDF invades someone's home, then gets pissed because victims fought back and wacked one of your killers? Keep up the strong moral position. Your credibility and standing in the world corrodes day by day. The good news is, once you hit bottom, it can't get any worse!

Israeli Officials should stop blaming the victims for their own un- lawful behavior and policies in the Palestinian territories daily. I doubt if Palestinians factions would be fighting and killing one another if they had accepted the democratic will of the Palestinian people in a free and fair election. Hence they are responsible for escalating this violence among the factions. In addition, they can't send their army into Palestinian neigh- bors towns and villages daily and terrorize them with their state terrorism and expect them to come out unharm. That's unrealistic. The Palestinians have a right to defend them- selves against their unlawful aggressors too. Dutch

It is the Palestinians who pay, almost every day, with one or more deaths. Gaza is wrecked by IDF bulldozers and tanks. But no matter how long this continues, one thing is certain: the Palestinians refuse to be driven away. They will not leave Gaza or the West Bank because Israel wants them to. Sooner or later, Israel is going to have to deal with them diplomatically intead of killing them unless it wants this constant warfare. And I have read that there are many Israelis who are prepared to exchange the settlements for peace.

Maybe you are the one that will never die, everyone of us will someday. Ben kubani passed away like a hero defending the land and people of Israel.

Chaim -- What twisted truth. It is Palestinians who are paying daily for Israel's unlawful presence in the Palestinian territories by being denied their lawful and just rights at the expense of maintaining your illegal settlements and privilaged life style. Well, take if from me and the rest of the world--your future lies down the road and out of the territories. And if you had an ounce of decency you would leave now and spare us the trouble of kicking you out. Dutch

the name of the heroe will be remmembered forever:B E N K U B A N Y ! I am sad about the boy who give his life to his loved country Israel, an elite trooper. I am thankfull that the allmightythat have let such man lived.

You are not fooling anyone. Gazans are still living in 2/3 of Palestinian land, despite the withdrawal. They have not made any attempt to rebuild anything. On the contrary, they have gone on a rampage, killing each other, and burning down what Israel left behind, not to mention fellow Palestinian cafe shops, and Xtian bookstores, and churches. Gazans had a gate out into the free world, there was greater employement and even bridges being built between Israel and the Palestinians. That little Intifada of theirs ruined everything, and Israels decision to disengaged just slapped them right the face.

.. to the Palestinian citizens who were wounded & murdered by this illegal act of war & state sponsored terrorism by Israel & the IDF.

You are a racist.

Palestinians have the same rights as anyone else to defend their lands when invaded. Why is #3 allowed to make suggestions of collective punishment against an entire demographic?

All the sacrifices of IDF soldiers made pointless by the smiling corruppt traitor at the helm of Israel,agreeing at this very moment on flooding Israel with pal "refugees".

Your knee-jerk right-wing Zionist rants are, at best, laughable. It's clear from your posts that you drink the Gov't and IDF koolaid without any question or objectivity as to the veracity of their statements. As an example: there have have been countless stories about purported suicide bombers being intercepted - does it not seem strange to you that ABSOLUTELY EVERY ONE of these bombers gets caught and that there hasn't been a single one that has succeeded? Does this have the ring of truth to it or is it part of a propaganda campaign to keep the Israeki citizenry fearful and also to justify the IDF incursions?

Palestinians, your cause is noble.

What are you hiding? Why have you censored my comments?

The reason why Israel has to put up with Hamas today in Gaza is because it failed to achieve peace with Fatah for so long. Now if the moderate voice is unable to give the Palestinians what they see as their rights, then the common people will have no choice but to seek other means in doing so. This has now happened in Gaza and it is only a matter of time before it also moves to the West Bank. In any case, I am sure that Israel realizes all of this, but does not care the least as it has its own agenda in the region.

Dear Ben, The first rains of Autumn fell today. The skies opened up and wept. Wept for you, as we wept with them. My son, your good friend, got news of the tragedy this afternoon and rushed to your parents home. There, all your friends had gathered. All are in shock and disbelief. Ben, you were always smiling! Such a warm, loving person, always quick to give a hug! Always surrounded by friends, dearly loved by everyone who knew you. This is a great loss for us. Not only as a Golani hero, but also as a dear friend. My son and daughter will miss you so much - no more lazing on the beach together, no more laughing and joking together. Ben, thank you for the ultimate sacrifice you made. May you rest in peace.

CHAIM YOU ARE RIGHT COMPLETELY RIGHT. Those called pals showed who they are after Sharon's Gaza Plan, more kassams, shells and now katyushas.Their intentions are very clear, they are smuggling tons of weapons via Egypt. WHO WILL BE SO STUPID TO GIVE THEM MORE CHANCES TO KILL JEWISH PEOPLE??? AGAIN, NO TO PLO STATE, NEVER

MY CONDOLENCES TO Sergeant Ben Kubani'S FAMILY. A HERO THAT FOUGHT FOR THE EXISTENCE OF OUR JEWISH STATE-ISRAEL. G-D BLESS THE JEWISH WARRIORS, OMEN

There is zero chance of olmert launching an operation in gaza unless IDF and Barak push him aside. Olmert is afraid of violence, and terribly afraid of offending the US. He almost cancelled the strike on Syria. The IDF detests Olmert. After the Lebanon war, Olmert had the gall to say that the IDF let him down, as if he had no input.He has given israel peretz and ramon and the gaza withdrawal.He may be a good finance minister, but anything involving state security is way above him.

The offensive has been coming for so long, that so many more Israeli soldiers will die when it does come, as the Palestinians have and keep on preparing for it. Its a political decision after all, and how well have the politicians done in deciding on millitary matters? Can one say " Second Lebanon War"?

In my opinion, the killing of a terrorist is good news. A dead terrorist cannot kill innocents any more. I would start by bombing the places where they make and stockpile arms and explosives, where they launch qassams, the training camps and the smuggling tunnels. If Israel bombs Gaza, it wont be an invasion. Anyway, the terrorists also invade Israel when they infilter into it. I am sorry for the children. It is a great disgrace to be born among terrorists, who always have you where you can be killed and use you for propaganda when you get what they want for you.

Hello. I was thinking of that too.

The land on which beautiful, thriving Gush Katif stood is now a huge terrorist camp. Three years ago, Gush Katif marketed fresh, organic produce to the world. Today Gaza is nothing but a launchpad for terror rockets. Israel pays and pays eternally in blood and money for each idiotic concession. Israel has never enjoyed a single benefit from concessions, only suffering. Imagine how much stronger, more peaceful and more secure Israel would be today if Israel had never made a single concession! We must raise governments that refuse to retreat under any conditions. THIS IS OUR LAND! Let us stop acting like thieves in the night. Let us reclaim it, defend and massively settle it with strength and pride!

"Gaza was a hell hole before the disengagement, but the Israelis had something to offer the Gazans. " You didn't specify what Israel had to offer the Gazans? Was it 2/3 of the territory for 1 million Palestinians so 5000 Jews can live in luxury on the other 1/3? As for Sderot, I feel bad for that town...Would you be happier if the Gazans fired longer range rockets at the Knesset Building so they could target the exact people responsible for their situation? Think, my friend...think beyond the simpleton slogans spewed out by your government.

Cut Power,water and Fuel. Expell 1000 PALS to Egypt for every IDF soldier Killed or wounded. Quassams should be responded to with Random Tanks shells targeted at Gaza City

Was it an Olso vintage or post Oslo? Perhaps it was one of the thousands of rifles delivered by Israel to Gaza and taken by Hamas from fatah. Whatever, the possibility that it was a US/Israeli supllied weapon is very great. Hamas is now smuggling weapons into Gaza in hugh quantities. You can be sure the emphasis is on PRG's, missiles and heavier weapons. They have an abundant supply of assault rifles, courtesy of Olmert and Bush already.

So obviously, for you leftists and pacifists, the sgt. was murdered because he was a racist and was in the act of oppressing the innocent ayrabs? But you'll stick to your BS reasoning until the checkered kaffiyeh swallows up even you, the "peaceful". Geo. Santayana, "Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes." You people never learn.

Tim, is there something in the water up there that makes you people stupid? How do you not see the reality of the situation? Lets break it down for you in simple terms. Palestinians fire rockets into Israel daily and attempt to infiltrate Israel with bombs almost daily. Thank god there is a security fence, checkpoints etc. or else many more Israelis would be dead. The IDF has every right to go into Gaza and the WB and take out these terror scum which you love so much. The PA has not done anything, zilch, to stop their own people from terrorizing Israel, so the IDF will do it for them. What do you expect Israel to do when it is attacked? Nothing? Keep dreaming ey!

Again, the IDF does not go after unarmed civilians. If this was true, there would be no Palestinians left. They go after armed terrorists who intend to kill Israelis. This is a fact that is accepted by the whole international community and is the reason the US and the EU back Israel. You try to portray the situation by using false information and blatant lies...this makes you look foolish and proves our point that the people who actually side with the Palestinian culture of terror and lies, are themselves, no better. Thaks for that POP.

You're right Chet. We should all disregard what Haaretz says and get our info form Al-Jazeera. Fool!

In my opinion, the killing of a terrorist is good news. A dead terrorist cannot kill innocents any more. I would start by bombing the places where they make and stockpile arms and explosives, where they launch qassams, the training camps and the smuggling tunnels. If Israel bombs Gaza, it wont be an invasion. Anyway, the terrorists also invade Israel when they infilter into it. I am sorry for the children. It is a great disgrace to be born among terrorists, who always have you where you can be killed and use you for propaganda when you get what they want for you.

Gaza was a hell hole before the disengagement, but the Israelis had something to offer the Gazans. Upon the Israeli withdrawal, the Gazans were left with nothing, hence the situation became more despressing. Now, isnt that what the Palestnians wanted, a withdrawal? Well, they got it, and now they are in a more dire situation. No employement, the world has closed its doors to them fore supporting Hamas, and everyone is fed up with them. I dont see what the residents of Sderot and the western Negev have to do with the situation in Gaza, so your arguement is kinda bare.

Captured suicide bombers whose bombs never explode, captured anti-tank weapons that are not fired at Israeli tanks, sixty-plus trainees "injured' by a Qassam attack, countless Hamas and Fatah men arrested as "terrorists" or "extremists" and on and on. When was the last time that it was reported that Haaretz followed up on these allegations and did the most basic "fact check"? The failure to do so, especially with the notoriously disingenuous IDF, constitutes a major journalistic failing. It would appear that by consistently taking IDF stenography without question, Haaretz and the other Israeli media are complicit in the Gov't and IDF propaganda dissemination.

Alaiv hashalom. Zichronò livrachah. I cry for the loss of this young hero.

This boy should not have been killed. That is a tragedy and a waste of life. Israel's government is to blame. What do they expect when they send troops into occupied territory? The Palestinians did exactly what anyone would do, defend themselves. This is to be expected every time Israel uses their troops offensively.

Your words are vile! If you are so supportive of the Palestinians why don`t you go live in Gaza and learn the truth how their own people are misleading them just wait till Israel withdraws fully from gaza and then they will only have themselves to blame for all the killings

mean something else i guess someone we don't want...... i guess they told you this in your teen days in classroom or in the playground..... beastrad ...beastrad

Look broheeem, Gaza was a hell hole LONG before Israel pulled out. Lot's not blame everything on the legacy of Israel's occupation of Gaza. I don't fully understand your analogy with Cinco de Mayo... ...but I do understand that Israel's departure from Gaza was painted to Israelis as some huge comprimise for peace and reconcilliation and the Palestinians ruined it by firing rockets... ...that narrative is so simplistic and silly I am very surprised intelligent jews buy into it so mindlessly.

Try reading the complete story---They were after terrorists---Since you're so enthused, why not hop a flight and re-inforce them..??

They never stop launching qassams and trying to infiltrate terrorists into Israel because, so they say, they want to wipe the Jews out and seize Israel for themselves. My opinion is that it is not convenient for the IDF to go into Gaza. What they should do is to flatten the Strip from the outside.

The Israeli soldiers are running the risk of being killed or wounded so to not kill hamas supporters. In my opinion, they should never go into Gaza but bomb the Strip from the air or the sea.

My condolences to the family and friends of Sergeant Ben Kubani. My thoughts and prayers go out to them.

Good post, Stephen. I sent something along the same lines which wasn't published; however, you've sent the message out for the both of us. Regards, Hannah.

the pales refugee camps killing over 100 civilians , and 300 hundred terrorist,just this past summer. may i add that there was never a suicide bomber in beyrouth, nor a kassam at tripoli, or guns attacks on lebanes buses. the camp was razed regardless of cvilian lives there. i wonder if you were spending your time in some labanese newspapers crying about THOSE poor pales.

As preparations for the American peace conference continue, the leaders of the Palestinian Authority have announced their demands for a future Palestinian state with an area of 6205 square kilometers. This would include the Gaza strip, the West Bank and East Jerusalem. However, the message they have conveyed to their people for years, and continue to convey on the eve of the conference, is that "Palestine" exists and it replaces all of Israel. Credits to: Palestinian Media Watch Bulletin http://pmw.org.il/bulletins_oct2007.htm#b171007

message number 34 applys to you aswell, though i think you already go the message, know what I mean.

WILL MAKE BAGDAD A WALK IN THE PARK! AND THE PA KNOWS IT, AS HAMAS WILL TAKE OVER THE WEST BANK IN NO TIME. i heard word in the gaza strip is that some pales wish the idf is back to protect them from hamas going wild!

Fits in with the rest of your "well informed contributions". BTW How many aliases do you use here to make it look like you lot have a following?

Granted, there are a handful of civilians within those killed. Now if you are going to justify anything by numbers, deduct the known terrorists or "militants" as you wish to call it, from the 251 dead Palestinians. The remaining number is also heart wrenching, and even depressing, but I as a logical person see it as the price Palstinian Civilians are paying or their support of terror. As for the 7 dead Jews, well, they were killed bot because they were terrorist, but because they were Jews. Lets keep it real bro.

we are proud of you and we thank you for our freedom!

IDF Soldiers will have to go in and root them out hiding behind womens skirts or behind martyrdom brainwashed children.

Yes, stop the bloodshed!! 251 dead Palestinians this year vs. 7 Jews.

I actually like Natallie D and Clickfool's postings. they serve as a great reminder as to how people out there think about jews or israel. to some people, things are either black or white. there's no inbetween. Israel is evil every time a Palestinian dies, Israel breaks the Geneva human rights declarations when it enters Gaza, etc. Israel wants to steal land & water, expand to Damascus. But none of these critics even dare to explore what came first - the chicken or the egg, or, in this case, the Qassams, the suicide bombers of past, the tunnels dug to sneak into israel to murder murder murder. no one challenges the Palestinian's own human rights issues or the issues in neighbouring arab countries, because that distracts them from raining hate upon Israel. I am not happy when innocent people - israelis or pals - die in conflict. seems like others here are happy to rattle sabres and rustle feathers - all in the name of hate and bloodthirst. no dreams of peace. just dreams of blood.

Dont want folks down my throat saying im using two names

Im not going to give you the propaganda stance that POP wrote for you. I'll just tell you what we did. The IDF entered Gaza in response to Kassam Rockets launched at the Western Negev. Simple as that. Good day bro.

He doesnt need to go to Gaza in order to be terrorized. He can just go visit Sderot. Dont be a hypocrite dude. The situation in Gaza is as follows. The Palestinians decided to play El Cinco de Mayo with Israel. They played around with the pinata to much, and when they finally gave it a hard enough blow, the candies came showering down on them way to fast for them take. They then complained that whoever made the pinata put hard candy into it, and it hurt them. Does that better explain the situation to you?

Beautifully written! No one can come close to the truth you just posted! Dovale Gdod 50

Sergeant Ben Kubani, we honor you for making the greatest sacrifice that man can possibly make, for the security of your israel and its citizens. Thank you! our thoughts go out to your family, friends and loved ones.

Go live in Gaza City for a few days so you can better understand the state terrorism Israel practises and how it results in so much tragedy for both sides.

Your words do not faze me, or any other Israeli, because your rhetoric and hate can never match our resolve. Soldiers like myself will continue to put our lives on the line for the safety of our people. Terrorists in the Gaza Strip has made it Israels' business to enter the Strip when they decided to launch rockets into Israeli cities along the Gaza border. We can also make it our business to indiscriminatley shell Gaza from within Israel, making no distinction between civilians and others, as the Palestinian Terrorist do. But you see, thats what makes us different. We soldiers go INTO the Gaza Strip and TARGET TERRORISTS, and risk our own lives so to spare Palestian casualties during any clash. Sadly at times, we fail, and some civilians are killed, but we still manage to leave the Gaza Strip head high, knowing that we faught morally and just, for the sake of Israel, and for the sake of Palestinian civilians. This distinction is what makes us who we are. Heroes and not cowards.

Weird: does 'dead' now equal 'hero'? Put your American sentimentality to the side for a moment while you check out your thesaurus.

To answer all the guys here that have simpaty with the Gaza gungs of Hamas murderers that since they got Gaza back from Israel all they did was arming themselves and waisting all money on arms insted of building the strip and blaming Israel so read the following: "The Lebanese government must do more to alleviate the miserable conditions of Palestinian refugees in Lebanon who are treated like "second-class citizens", Amnesty International said on Wednesday. And this is same for most arabs countries that only when it comes to Israel they "support" the Pals. and this is goind for 60 years now bla, bla, bla, bla,

IDF is a army like no other and it is treating the hate driven minded terrorist with silk gloves. is it leagal to fire mortar and Kasam on setlments daily? The Pals. got their gaza back and then started to shoot on villages and setlments in Israel surounding gaza. If they delt with russia or arab country they will be wept out of the map, don't forget what happened in NORTH LEBANON OR CHECHNIA!!!

STOP THE BLOODSHED!

Natallie, Why wouldn't you believe the most moral army in the world? After all, they have only lied about several dozen minor and fatal incidents in the past. Regards, Rollin

"Remember that you know what you think and know what is true...." Sure. Never change your mind, even when the evidence telling you you should is overwhelming.

"Instead lets ignore her, and hope she disappears forever." Don't hold your breath, Beastrad! (;-) CF

Precisley the reason not to have a ground op in Gaza. This soldier lost his life fighting in alleys, amongst civilians. This is Hamas war. Israel's war is to cut off electricity and bomb from the air. Then all the misery stays where it originates: Gaza.

It is a sad day. My condolence to the family,relatives, camarades and friends of this untill now unknow hero. The world today is smaller than yestarday. Long life to Israel.

calling hamas "militants" when even the PA calls them terrorist having taken the gaza strip by force . if these men found themselves in an israeli city they would randomly shoot civilians( as they do in Sderot), thus they are terrorists. If they were preparing themeslves to fight solely the idf, this would mmake them militants. stop legitimizing them. as for the Hero soldier who died fighting for my FREEDOM.thank you. may his memory be blessed, and to his family and friends , you shall be proud of him forever. ans we also thank you for him.

This Soldier is a hero to the Israeli People, as all other soldiers are. He died defending his country from those who seek to annihilate us. Friend, comrade, your death is not unnoticed, and we remember your sacrifice to your people and country, and because of you Am Yisrael Chai. My greatest sympathy to family and loved ones. This is truley a sad momement for us all.

Simple at the, you shoot rocket...no light in the evening.

I am awful sorry for the death of both the Israeli soldiers and the Palestinians. Natallie, did you ever write something like this in one of your posters?

Does anyone ever check the claims of these IDF guts? I mean these tank guys are the ones that attacked and killed three Gaza children a couple of months ago. I am sure that they would have been described as militants with a rocket launcher if they weren't children. By the way, in this recent attack, did they recover the rocket launcher? In the past year we have suffered a barage of Palestinian "suicide bombers" who were captured, but did not think to explode their bomb. Now we have rocket launching militants that are content only to aim at IDF tanks and not fire. It is all so convenient for the IDF that nobody asks questions. This is the nature of their supporters.