Defense officials: Failure at peace summit could affect Gaza security
MI: If Israel doesn't attend peace summit, Abbas, Fayad will disappear and Hamas, Iran will fill vacuum.
By Barak Ravid and Aluf Benn Tags: Annapolis conference Gaza PalestiniansAn Israeli decision not to attend next week's summit in Annapolis or the summit's failure could lead to a further decline of the security situation in the Gaza Strip, military representatives said at a security cabinet meeting on Wednesday.
"If we don't go to Annapolis and the status quo is maintained, there will be chaos in the territories," one of them said.
According to intelligence assessments presented in the session, the position of Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) is weak, and he will have a hard time meeting his security obligations.
"Abu Mazen and [PA Prime Minister Salam] Fayad will disappear and Iran and Hamas will fill the vacuum," the officials said.
The head of the Shin Bet security service, Yuval Diskin, warned that preserving the status quo could give more encouragement to the "one state for two peoples" idea that is gaining popularity in Europe. He said that this is part of a process of delegitimizing Israel as a Jewish state.
Major General Ido Nachoshtan, head of the Plans and Policy Directorate of the Israel Defense Forces, presented a mapping of Israel's security interests. He noted that "it's important to go to Annapolis now because the American administration is 'invested' in the process and [President George W.] Bush sees these things through a military prism. It's hard to know what will be important to the next administration so it's important to do it now."
"If after the summit there is no positive development and Abu Mazen doesn't get stronger, Hamas could 'leak' from Gaza into the West Bank and fortify existing terror cells there," an intelligence official said.
At the meeting, IDF officers and Shin Bet officials presented scenarios of the day after the summit, provoking criticism from some ministers.
"You can't say that if the status quo is maintained that would be bad, and if there is a [peace] process it will also be bad," Vice Premier Haim Ramon said. "You can't have it both ways. The political leaders must make a decision, and in every decision there are risks, but also opportunities."
Other ministers criticized the military representatives, telling them, "You need to execute policy, not set it. According to what criterion do you decide that it's a failure?"
A confrontation broke out during the meeting between Ramon and Defense Minister Ehud Barak. "We mustn't allow ourselves to be accused of failure at Annapolis because we didn't make enough concessions to the Palestinians," said Barak.
In an implicit reference to Ramon's support for discussing at the summit the future of Jerusalem, the state's borders and the refugee issue, Barak said, "Even around this table there are those who are contributing to our being blamed for stubbornness."
Ramon responded, "If we had offered the Palestinians half the things presented at Camp David, but with serious consideration and responsibility, we could go to Annapolis with a document with an agreement on the core issues. Every time we fail to offer what was offered in Camp David, we appear stubborn."
Barak told Haaretz Wednesday night that "I am in much greater coordination with the prime minister and the foreign minister than it would seem from the newspapers, and no less than the best periods of work in the cabinet."
"Some are attacking me from the left, others on the right. The real difference is that I am responsible for security, and it carries obligations. I don't think the prime minister and the foreign minister are unaware of this, and there are meetings and updates on everything, and an attempt to reach a common goal through understanding.
"I think Annapolis is the right thing," Barak said. "The dialogue is desirable for examining the possibility of going toward an agreement. It is also the cabinet's moral duty to the country's fighters and citizens." But he added, "There is a similar duty to do it in a reasoned manner, out of responsibility for security."
Regarding the freezing of construction on Jewish settlements in the West Bank, Barak said the cabinet's position is known: No new settlements or large developments should be built, but construction in the large blocs will continue.
The cabinet is committed to evacuating illegal outposts, he added. "We are a law-abiding state, and we will do it, there is no doubt of that."
Barak says Sdot Yam statements still validBarak said Thursday that once the final report of the Winograde Commission investigating the government's prosecution of the Second Lebanon War is published, "we will act as we should, in accordance with my statements at Sdot Yam."
During his campaign for the chairmanship of the Labor Party, Barak told a news conference in Sdot Yam that the commission's damning report on the failures of the war behooves Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to "reach personal conclusions" and to resign his post. Barak declared, "if on March 28, I am elected chairman of the Labor Party, and the prime minister has yet to reach personal conclusions, I will act to form a wide consensus in my party and with the faction leaders to determine an appropriate and agreed date for elections."
"These statements were made and they are still valid, but we must read the report and see what is right for the State of Israel," Barak said in an interview Thursday with Israel Radio.
When broached about next week's Annapolis conference, the defense minister said that the disagreements among government ministers are matter-of-fact and topical. Barak added that once negotiations over the core issues of the conflict begin at a later stage, "we will consider each and every one of the issues in a responsible manner."
Barak also told Israel Radio that if the Palestinians are ready to accept the proposals put forth at Camp David in the summer of 2000, it would be incumbent upon Israel to clinch an agreement. The former prime minister emphasized that the Palestinian leadership's ability to deliver on its commitments will be tested in its implementation of the first stage of the road map, namely in its ability to quell rocket fire from the Gaza Strip.
"This talk that says I'm pulling rightwards is far from reality," Barak said. "This isn't a matter of right and left. I'm being attacked from all sides, but those who are attacking me do not bear the responsibility and that is the difference between us."
Barak praised the level of cooperation within the government, which he said is working together in a proper manner, in contrast to the public's perception of a cabinet driven by political considerations and personal tension.
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"The fact is long before the Islamist-Jihadists emerged in the Arabian Desert in the 7th century, Israel was already in existence since the time of their forefathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" What relevance does that have in today's world? Countries are not created based on ancient biblical writings; if they were, why were a South American country and an East African country both under consideration for the Jewish people before Israel was created?
Don't spew your Islamist-Jihadist occupation crap. You do not seem to know the history of Ancient and Modern Israel. The fact is long before the Islamist-Jihadists emerged in the Arabian Desert in the 7th century, Israel was already in existence since the time of their forefathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Read the Holy Bible, Biblical Archaeology and History to know Israel well.
that Hamas is preparing seriously for a ground invasion from israel after the non-conference.The fayyad govt.,israel and u.s. are asking nato to come in after the invasion and be stationed there.Spain has volunteered to send troops.(Al Ahram Weekly,Nov.15-21,2007,'Adapting to all conditions' by Saleh Al -Naami). abbas has better seek asylum in the u.s.!
One can hear Barak tuning up for the coming elections if you listen carefully between the lines of this and other recent stories. He practices a single note and it is: "Me, Me, Me, Me!"
Lakshmi, not even Hamas is insisting upon the original partition borders. They are asking for the pre-Six Day War borders.
'jewish' state.Then,the returning Palestinians can return to their homes from where you drove them out in 1948.It does not matter that the Palestinians did not accept the partition at the time.You used that excuse to double land that was not given to you by the Partition Plan of UN Resolution 181.Once you withdraw from ALL occupied territory the rest will follow.Beilin& others are temporising . . .
One land for two Nations is correct European vision. Only this step wll take at least 50 years, but it will create comfort for everybody. We need to continue development of emty land, and help to PalArabs to initiate building of own mini states incorporated to Israeli industry etc. Only after that one state can be well define.
This will not fly. The only solution that will end this forever is this: Set an international body (UN) to restore all property back to the real owners as it was before May 1948 ( use Jordan, UK and Turkey records as guidence) then allow all such people either to live in, sell or lease such property at thire choice. NEXT is free elections in historical Palestine from Jordan Rev to Midt SEA. Compensate the owners for the usage of such property for the last 60 years and do the same to the JEWS who left Arab countries at the same time. End of zoinizim and imperiallizim. There is no other way forward except living by the sward and ending also by sward for Jews or Arabs and Muslims. Say 16 millions as oppose to 1.5 billions, the result is well known. Make your choice befor it is too late.
This is NOT surprising because 99.9% of the wolves share the fanatical Taliban Islamist-Jihadist ideology of Hamastan. There are no moderates among Islamist-Jihadists. It is time the West and Israel understand this. Hence, Israel must protect every inch of her liberated biblical and historic homeland of Judea and Samaria from the usurpation by the Antisemites and Islamist-Jihadists. To compromise on this is to cow to the demands of Wahhabhism. It is time Israel rejects the Antisemites who have been arm twisting them in their bid to help the fanatical Wahhabhist Islamist-Jihadists, and also the Islamist-Jihadists in Hamastan and Fatahan because their goal is the destruction of Israel. Their peace is the destruction of Israel as spelled out in their Manifesto. Israel must never allow the establishment of a Taliban like Islamist-Jihadist state on its own historic homeland of Judea and Samaria. It is time to reject the occupation CRAP of the Islamist-Jihadists.
Annapolis is a non-starter, for just one reason: the pals lack the will to fight terror.Annapolis will only be attended by Israel in order to placate the international community and especially the US ('See? I told you so!').It doesn't matter how many weapons the PA gets, they simply lack the will to define their own future, which is the main reason why they don't deserve their own state.
This is really amazing. Thanks to Israel, leaving the Philadelphi Road, Iran has set foot in Gaza. Iran will decide when the right moment comes, to take over the West Bank. Iran is training for months Hamas terrorists so that they become a real fighting force. With knowledge of Egypt, Hamas terrorists are leaving Gaza, are flying to Iran for training and come back, even with weapons and money. It has nothing to do with Annapolis. People in the West do not understand how the global jihad works and what jihad means. Iran only waits, until Olmert will have emptied his bag with all his foolish concessions. New Qassams with doubled range have been introduced. When Iran get nuclear weapons, for sure they will be used, albeit not directly through Iran but by their pawns. Iran will not be stopped through nice words or through Annapolis. Wishful thinking will not help, only tough and hard decisions.