Defense Ministry reveals West Bank settlement freeze abuses

as a matter of FACT, they probably have more "biblical" claim to the land than YOU yishai, unless you're sephardim; to whom the palestinians are the MOST closely related.

S: "Why do you even talk about that with a land grabber who lives on land stolen from Australian aboriginal half-casts????? Just compare his living standards with those of aboriginals to see who is the true criminal here." I am a citizen of the Commonwealth of Australia, with all the rights that come with that. Every single Aboriginal (half-cast or full-blood) is...... a citizen of the Commonwealth of Australia, with all the rights that come with that. Compare and contrast with *your* privileged position relative to the STATELESS Palestinians that you seem to be so intent on displacing from land that DOES NOT BELONG to your state. Give them Israeli citizenship, sunshine, and then you might be fit to shine my shoes.

"Article 24: This Organization does not exercise any territorial sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or in the Himmah Area." And that was as true then as it is now i.e. the PLO did not EXERCISE territorial sovereignty. It couldn't, because there were armies of occupation in both - and such armies **do** tend to get in the way of "exercising sovereignty". And - of course - the PLO still can't "exercise sovereignty" because (and this may come as a shock) there is still an army of occupation in the way, and all that has changed in the intervening years is the uniforms worn by the soldiers of the army of occupation. Yishai, matey, consider this: Syria definitely claims sovereignty over the Golan Heights, but it is perfectly willing to admit that it can not EXERCISE that sovereignty. You know, army of occupation 'n' all.. Funny thing is, everywhere you look it's the same damn army.

keep up the good work. we will thank you all when you come in for your travel documents. Dont stay away too long---you know the rules---you made them.

You can refer to them as thieves if you like. It is they who are ruining Israel,s digestive system---consuming vast portions of "tainted product". Not to worry--Israel will cough it up some day and it wont be a dose of indigestion that will cause it.

http://wp.me/PDB7k-Y

It is good that the voices from the settlers are heard. We can learn to know them and their logic. They will not learn anything from the rest of us.

You're pathetic ! Jordan recognised the authority of the PLO in the West Bank in 88. Any other questions Yishai ? For your information the "arabs" are called Palestinians...please go educate yourself. Denial is a crime. Don't forget.

Why is the "freeze" even going on at all? Obama has failed to deliver any even partial reciprocity from the Arabs for Bibi's agreement to a partial freeze (the "normalization" Israel was promised by Obama, it turns the Arabs refused to consider in any form from the start, and Obama knew it, but had Mitchell lie about it). By failing to extract any other reciprocity from them, such as a "freeze" on propaganda incitement, Obama doomed his plan. Congress has come out solidly against the "freeze", and the Obama White House has now admitted it was a poor idea, didn't get Abbas to negotiations, even EU has blasted Abbas' stubbornness and bad faith, and Obama has backed off, moved to a cockamamie "indirect talks" idea so he can save face. So for indirect talks, Israel need deliver only "indirect freeze" on construction. The "abuses" will continue, and accelerate, as a way of ending the stupid, purposeless "freeze" without poking a finger in the humiliated Obama's eye by doing it officially.

I fully agree with you.The word "Settler" does not sound bad when you don't steal the land you want to settle on. But these fanatic bastards, mostly US immigrants, deserve calling them "Nasty, outlawed Bastards, par Excellence" And Israel wonders, why so many people worldwide start to look at them as "Parias"

Why do you even talk about that with a land grabber who lives on land stolen from Australian aboriginal half-casts????? Just compare his living standards with those of aboriginals to see who is the true criminal here.

Most settlers know perfectly well that they're building on land which is not within the borders of Israel. If they want to run the risk, it's their choice, but why should Israeli taxpayers who live within Israel pay for them?

One of the major problems that Israel has with the world is it's consistent dishonesty. It talks peace, it announces a freeze, then it casually allows massive violations of the freeze while announcing approved violations of the freeze. If there is no intent to freeze settlement expansion, then why pretend that is the intent? Better to be honestly defiant than act shamefully.

"THE PALESTINIAN NATIONAL CHARTER" (Al-Mithaq Al-Kawmee Al-Philisteeni), Adopted in 1964 by the 1st Palestinian Conference Article 24: This Organization does not exercise any territorial sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or in the Himmah Area. http://www.un.int/palestine/PLO/PNA2.html It's OUR land. We claim it and we will build here in OUR land. The Arabs can build elsewhere- in their own 99.9% of the Middle East.

I am no longer amazed - only saddened - at some of the things Israel now does. Why on earth are they nw planning to give settlers more cash. Compensation for what? The mind boggles.

In Israel the Settlers cause all sorts of problems affecting the digestive system of any rational mildly caring person. In the UK however, "Settlers" are one of the most popular remedies for Indigestion relief. I think therefore a new name should be used for those strange otherworldly morons who emigrate to Israel believeing that other people's homes belong to them. How does "Nasty Bastards" sound?

Yishai: "Of Course We Will Continue Building Here In OUR Land" That argument would have rather more weight if Israel actually declared that the West Bank was, indeed, part of the state of Israel. Funny, ain't it, but it doesn't make that claim and, indeed, never has..... YK: "If anyone is to stop building here in OUR land, it will be our enemies, the Philistines." Funny, ain't it, that of the two "enemies" the only one who actually claims this territory is..... the Philistines. The Israelis merely demand that it be given to them. You know, like a spoilt brat would demand something that wasn't his.....

Of course in law the ones entitled to compensation are the Arabs whose land the settlers have stolen, as well as their neighbours whose land the settlers have made unusable. I look forward to seeing their claims met.

Only leftists will moan that Jews build on homes in Judea ! Small piece of advice :Read the Thorah or the Birkat ha Mazon if you know what it is ... If Haaretz journalists do not recognize the right for Jews to build in any part of Eretz Israel, they should buy a one way ticket to San Francisco!

... or is it merely the declaration that is tardy?...

If anyone is to stop building here in OUR land, it will be our enemies, the Philistines.

Why would Palestinians have to stop building their own houses on what's left of their own land ? Will IDF (Israeli Attack Force) bomb those houses as well ?

Presumably all this illegal construction in the settlements will be retroactively legalized by the government at some stage. Gosh, I wonder why the Pals aren't impressed by Bibi's freeze farce.

The illegal settlers would be compensated for not building on land they never owned in the first place. The West Bank belongs to the Palestinians illegal settlers shouldn't be there in the first place. The state of Israel thinks it's above the law. It continues to illegally occupy a population and blockade the Gaza Strip from the outside world forcing it's residents to live in an open air prison in ghetto like conditions. And the state of Israel claims it wants peace with it's neighbors. What a regime...