CIA: Israel helped expose covert Iran nuclear facility

Lest I be mistaken for a liberal, I'm a 69-yr-old, lifelong Republican woman who voted for Bush - the second time in the belief he'd realized he'd been hoodwinked. Look up "paleoconservative" - that's where I'm at.

if Israel or the CIA discovered this before Iran's announcement they would've brought the house on top of the Iranians heads... enough with these kiddish claims.

We must be naive to think that talking to Iran, North Korea or imposing sanctions will prevent them from developing nuclear arsenal. Sanctions will be vetoed by china and russia. In the end,most countries with the financial means will have their bombs and one day some sick minds will start a nuclear war and we all will disappear.

Israel's Mossad is not what it used to be. So, they help edit and "santize a public report-big dea. GULLY is right the Mossad mis-led the world about WMD's and Iraq invasion -- the world and especially the Bush team. Reference --Read Bob Woodward Book, Plan of Attack, talks about the Mossad's informent nick named "curveball" who took Millions$$$ and lied to Mossad and CIA; and thus the invsion of iraq occurred.

Because they stand exposed..??? as about WMD's of Iraq or genocide in palestine. Surely US is a nice democracy.. no one not even media dares criticize Israel for anything.. Long live the democracy (hypocrisy) of US and Israel.

The point is that combined efforts resulted in the end results, which are what count Otherwise we could have left it in the incompetent hands of the IAEA, and El Baradei would have continued to cover up for Iran

so now i'm curious; do you agree? have you seen the things i'm talking about?

other agencies were also involved *** Indeed they were. AIPAC and other pro-Israel lobbying groups, the Neocons and the PNAC signatories.

so now i'm curious; do you agree? have you seen the things i'm talking about?

i'd say 5-6 years, minimum... unless the satellite imagery analysts from several agencies were asleep for few years. the site is on a military range and literally across the street from a MAJOR munitions storage depot(a place that's guaranteed to be monitored closely). the google imagery of the qom facility is dated mar2005, and the massive extent of the underground work being undertaken there is obvious(scroll about a kilometer nne from buildings to a berm of excavated material that loops around the back of the mtn, also to west extending n.) satellite imagery available to american agencies has a resolution 4 times better than google, which is up close and personal(mustache or full beard?). that analysts would have missed this in 2005, just a few miles from a bustling military storage depot, is extremely hard to believe. they HAD to have been watching progress on it for at least two years prior to that; maybe even longer.

*BEN JABO: "...if Iran had nothing to hide, why did she hide it? " -------------------------------- Fear of attack from Israel. Nevertheless, it's bored into a side of mountain, making it completely invulnerable to bunker-buster attacks.

Next time they won't be so bashful to ask

The parallels between Iran and North Korea get stronger and stronger. The US failed to save Iran from the Islamic take over and has not protected the world, Iran's neighbors nor the Iranian people from the Iranian regimes abuses. The only way to prevent a further catastrophe is to strike Iran immediately with all that Israel, NATO and the US has in it's arsenal.

Instead of bleating on about the useless UN [which gave birth to the modern State of Israel]and the useless IAEA, perhaps you might ask why it is that Israel was encouraged by western powers to develop and keep nuclear weapons in secret and why the US which is a signatory to the NPT agrees to transfer nuclear technology to India who also chose to stay away from international agreements, looked the other way whilst Pakistan went nuclear whilst also being off IAEA radar as with North Korea. The only nation still under an inspections regime [until Israel launches a military strike] HAS NO nuclear weapons and divulges the whereabouts of an inoperative Qom BEFORE western nations go public with their intelligence or inform the IAEA of what they claim to have known. Lesson. If major world powers like the US flagrantly disregard and attempt to manipulate the IAEA for their own purposes whilst facilitating the nuclear weaponisation of several chosen allies outside of the IAEA remit, w.t.f. do you really expect?

seemed to have an effect. Or do you think the disclosure by Iran at the 11th hour was completely coincidental?

Instead of bleating on about the useless UN [which gave birth to the modern State of Israel]and the useless IAEA, perhaps you might ask why it is that Israel was encouraged by western powers to develop and keep nuclear weapons in secret and why the US which is a signatory to the NPT agrees to transfer nuclear technology to India who also chose to stay away from international agreements, looked the other way whilst Pakistan went nuclear whilst also being off IAEA radar as with North Korea. The only nation still under an inspections regime [until Israel launches a military strike] HAS NO nuclear weapons and divulges the whereabouts of an inoperative Qom BEFORE western nations go public with their intelligence or inform the IAEA of what they claim to have known. Lesson. If major world powers like the US flagrantly disregard and attempt to manipulate the IAEA for their own purposes whilst facilitating the nuclear weaponisation of several chosen allies outside of the IAEA remit, w.t.f. do you really expect?

ages. However, satellite pics and signals intelligence generally tell you only so much, SIGINT needs to be followed by HUMINT, i.e. recce on the ground, pinpointing of key personnel, analysis of deliveries etc. and finally, if lucky, penetration of the site. I'm not surprised this has been kept under wraps so far. Its revelation was timely, though it doesn't sound like there's a big deal there, it's not even operational yet. Calls for premature strikes are the voices of crazed people.

Couldn't the CIA (or MI-5) pull some James Bond and take out the Iranian reactors. Maybe it's time time earn your keep.

Has there ever been a more flagrant example of a double standard in international policy? Iran is a signatory to the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and allows U.N. inspectors on its territory. Israel is not a signatory to the NNPT and does not allow inspectors on its territory. Iran says it is developing peaceful uses for nuclear energy and does NOT have any nuclear weapons. Israel keeps its nuclear progam a complete secret but is known to have a nuclear weapons arsenal. Why then is Iran being hit with sanctions and Israel is not?

nobody. Democracies dont need to be 'exposed'

right ,trust the Iranian they are as transparent enough for you to trust them the israelis don`t need your trust.

WANT TO KNOW GOD FORBID THEY WILL HAVE TO TAKE ACTION.THE u.S INTELIGENCE CONTADICTED ISRAELI REPORT EVEN IN THE ISRAELI MEDIA.

the israelis are closer to Iran and have a large population that left Iran and after the revolution they can obtain more info and update it so yes israel share inteligence with the U.S.would you prefer to have only the cia assesment ,or maybe you insist in believing the Iranian regime.

how is it possible to know about the site and have a report that says that Iran is 3 years away fron atomic capabitities?on which side is the cia anyway, or was it the political decision to contradict Israeli assesments of the iranian getting to that capability within a year.It is final, i believe the israeli assesments more then the american inteligence.

"CIA: Israel helped expose covert Iran nuclear facility" "Israeli intelligence was involved in editing and creating the sanitized version of information about Iran's recently revealed secret uranium enrichment facility near Qom." Great going Israel! We're proud of you for this tremendous feat! ahmedinejerk must be irate at this news. The more trouble you make for Iran the better.

other agencies were also involved Read the story again, S L O W L Y, maybe it will sink in

Intelligence agencies didn't reveal the information until they knew the site was well advanced and that Iran wouldn't be able to refute the accusation In plain terms, Iran was caught with their pants down

Iran knew they were caught with their pants down, that's the only reason she finally admitted the nuclear site Let's put it this way, if Iran had nothing to hide, why did she hide it???

...am I missing something here?

All that talk of tougher sanctions,all that talk of enough is enough.Does anyone takes it seriously?.They have waited for years,and now they give them more time,and when all that is over,they will give them some time to implement, and when they will not do so they may or may not use sanctions,the same weapon that Clinton only yesterday admitted failed in Myanmar. BTW,the only one that didn't know about the "secret" is the watch dog!

If this is the Israel that supplied manufactured intelligence on Iraq's so-called WMD's, I wouldn't trust her word on anything.

"If the Americans or the Israelis had any hint of its existence before now they would have told the IAEA about it in a flash and come down on the Iranians like a tonne of bricks just as they are now." no, surely the US and potentially Israel knew about the facility before, if not, they would have done a lousy job with all their satellites, Echelon etc. but obviously, they have assessed long ago that within the facility nothing to worry about is going on.That's why they did not mention the facility before, That's why they tried to make it sound at least a bit concerning when they informed the public about it at last.Iran says there is nothing going on in there, the US have come to the same conclusion and the IAEA can even go there within 3 weeks notice. So most likely there is nothing going on in there, nothing that would change the situation. get used to it.

According to a January 2008 Haaretz article, Israel has had 6 spy satellites keeping an eye on Iran; an Ofek 5, an Ofek 7, a TESCAR and 3 others of the Amos and EROS series. Considering that the US also has half a dozen satellites hovering over Iran that can see through the night, cloud cover, rain, snow and the rest, why has it taken them so long to make this discovery?

All this talk about "knowing" is intended to cover-up the fact that all the western "intelligence" agencies failed to discover this building until Iran told the whole world about it - volunteerily! I guess they felt a need to do so, or how else can they justify all the money they pour into these incompetent agencies?

"``Israel aided in editing info on exposed Iran nuclear facility. Interesting to contemplate the unintended implications of that sentence." (Colin) Yeah...You'd have liked it unedited so as to expose the source... By the way, even an idiot would have understood the "implications".

My guess is that the editing probably refers to Russian involvement in this whole saga, hence the delicate way this whole affair has been handled. On the other hand, we're dealing with the CIA, Mossad, etc, and it's practically impossible to know what they know. What they tell us is what they want us to know, it's part of their job. I'm not surprised at all that they've known about this for a while. I would expect that.

As useless as other UN organisations. Maybe you could ask the Rwandans or the Cambodians etc for a letter of confidence in the UN? They are good at passing more anti Israel motions than against the rest of the world combined.Something to do with the number of Moslem states,all human rights champions, in the general assembly? answer your question.?

burried inside a mountain? How about because they wanted to have it available for inspection as per signeed agreement?? Care to provide your Hezb/Hamas supporters version?

...."BRING IT ON!!!"

So what if Bush and Obama didn't tell the press? It was and is little more than a hole in the ground, still. When it started to look like something, the CIA let Mossad photoshop some pictures, probably on the condition they didn't go bat-sh*t. Unlike Vik and JTA, it's doubtful the US will OK or attack unless all other options are exhausted and then some. Obama seems to care whether US GIs die, an attitude it would appear Bush shared towards the end of his term in office. There are close to a quarter million Americans in the area that neither Vik nor JTA care about in their zeal to see dead Iranians and a "Shock & Awe" show.

And they were only just preparing a dossier for the IAEA? Are we really supposed to believe this crap? If the Americans or the Israelis had any hint of its existence before now they would have told the IAEA about it in a flash and come down on the Iranians like a tonne of bricks just as they are now.

Rest assured Obama is merely going thru a formality! Iran in it's incompetent stupidity has brought "Everyone" down on it!!! They have a VERY small out with the Russians . Otherwise its who's got the most precision missles the U.S or Israel???? "Get 'er done!!

''Israel aided in editing info on exposed Iran nuclear facility.' Interesting to contemplate the unintended implications of that sentence.

Didnt obama say he can negotiate with iran over nukes?? How is this possible if he knew iran was hiding secret nuke sites? I assume this is on the only one not yet made public. This is unreal. Obama needs to attack iran immediately or step aside and let someone do it for him.

...to gain intelligence on a facility only to have Iran openly declare it to the IAEA, totally in accordance with it's treaty obligations.