Brazil President in West Bank: I dream of a free Palestine

Brazil has a strong economy and abundance of natural resources , including oil. They don't need Arab money , which has been heavily invested in supporting the US economy in crisis, for example supporting collapsing banks like Citicorp , and supporting our treasury auctions. They are strong importers of Western industry such as airplanes computer technology oil exploration and refining etc. Time we show some appreciation and redefine the term best ally as it has been used in regards to Israel.

All leftists are "friends" of Israel, and they dream do "help" the country promoting the "Palestinian State". It sounds to me that they really dream to erase Israel from the map. They should worry first of the Cuban dissident's situation, and the Venezuelan economy.

A statement that needs a joker to say it & a lunatic to believe it ! Of course time changed, a favorite music for the president. It is also a time to change other tunes like " money talk " unto " oil talk louder " !

Just like Begin was. Or was Begin a "freedom fighter", just like Arafat?

And thank you for writing it. Lies are what today's world revolving around. The Brazil president trying to find a hitch to snick through to join those queuing to the arab oil favor ! Nothing easier than through Israel ! No arab leader his hands are not dripping with his own people's blood ! Arafat is nothing than one of them !

This lightweight "dreams" of a Palestinian state???That is exactly what he is- a "dreamer". Not someone with intelligent and constructive ideas but a fool who thinks in abstract terms and has nothing helpful to say.

You are all so naive and have learned nothing from history, this guy Lula, just like all other so badly called World Leaders, wants fame, and JUST LIKE all others is using Israel as a means to do so. Why doesnt he say the same thing about his owm people in the Fabellas who live in utter poverty. He should have saved the money spent on this Brazilian Tax payers funded trip and spent it on his own people. Dreams of Greatness at the expense of Israel. The Pals are free, they can go to Jordana and trade with Jordan. If they hate Israel so much, why do they just look at the wall in Israeli side?, Because that is where the money is. What is there in Jordan etc apart from poverty and a minority - Pals - governed in a Dictatorship form by the minority? NOTHING, nor in Egypt etc.

Didn't you hear? The Brazilian President did not refuse to visit Hertzl tomb. He must have said he will visit the tomb when Hertzl remains will be returned to his home country, Austria

a terrorist who killed indiscriminately all over the world,stole from his own people and left them in abject poverty and drowning in hatred is obscene and indecent. Arafat deserves the grave but not the flowers.Everyday in every way the situation grows dimmer and dimmer for Israel. Has the world gone loopy and 1 sided with evil against Israel. It looks like it but then what else can we expect...history has a way of repeating itself over and over. Nothing is ever learned and never will be. I can say one thing about the palestinians and that is their lying propaganda machine is working....these malcontents...these distorters of the truth are revered in the world today. What does this say about the "oldest hatred"..it says it is alive and well and getting ready to rear its ugly head again in full force.Rational thinking people understand that for Israel to return to the pre'67 borders would be like adding nails to her coffin.It appears the world is gathering the nails.

Come on guys... The history is not so simple, but there is a thing which is not hard to understand: there's a State for Israel and there shoud be a State for Palestineans... ok ok ok... you are unable to agree who is going to get East Jerusalem and stuff... but there are people in this forum who just don't see Israel won't be fully respected if you don't agree with a Palestinean state...

Perhaps he was just hoping for an oil funded pay off for brown nosing at Arafat's grave? There is a huge amount of Arab oil money behind alot of this Palestinan drama

Non violence produced nothing for Palestinians. Look at it now, Israel is building new settlements, blocking aids to Gaza, stealing lands from West Bank. so what is non violence doing for Pals? Nothing, Nada, None. If there is a Presidential election, Hamas will win as it should. If Bibi and Avi can be in power in so called democracy in mid east, why not Hamas?

Since Israel will keep a portion of the land they won in a defensive war I doubt you can prove your point. Even Res 242 understood that Israel would keep some of the land they won for defense, an undisputed point to most historians familiar with the drafting of 242.

lula is leading government that is extraordinary corrupt even by liberal brazilian standards. we have not such corrupt government after kubichek in early 60s. this is about honesty.

The Pals violated Oslo (the road map)in so many different areas that there isn't enough room here to discuss it. As I said when the Pals violated their agreements Israel went back to settlement building. Completely understandable and absolutely fine with me. There are legal arguments on both sides of building in disputed land and there is no international law that forbids it. If you think there is a international law that makes the settlements illegal state it, show me your source that proves your point. Just saying settlements are illegal doesn't make it so.

Thank you, Lula, for endorsing a Palestinian state and for rejecting a visit to Herzl's gravesite. He did no favors for the Jewish people.

at least 50% of jews have the same progenitor 3600-3900 years ego. 93% of cohanim ashkenazim are of the same progenitor. pals are not, their and jews progenitor lived 5000 or more years ego

pals almost all not in J1 galpogroup where 50% of jews belong, they are as all other arabs are in J2, where only 6% of jews are. so pals are not children of jews or canaanites, that belong to yet another galpogroup. study modern sicence please before making stupid comments.

Everything Lula has said and done so far in this trip to Israel and palestinian territories was predicatble. He supports every dicatorship around the world (Cuba, Iran, Venezuela). Back home, his government has made several attempts to undermine the freedom of press. It's no wonder that he should pay honors to arafat's grave and not Herzl's and that he should put all the responsability of the conflict in middle east upon Israel's shoulders, excusing the terrorism brought about by some palestines.

Noting new we all know not just Israelis. Those last words of terrorist who slam plane in WTC in New York was IN THE NAME OF NELSON and THOMAS. If your comment meant to be funny and I did not get it than I feel bad miss.

a: "The Geneva convention forbides states to establish settlements in the territories of a conquered state." No, it says nothing of the sort. GCIV: "The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies." That says nothing about a state. It CLEARLY says that it is referring to "territory" that is being "occupied". The West Bank is - without question - under Israeli belligerent occupation.

In response to Brod,USA. Only invite foreign Ministers that are Pro Israeli.No wonder this APARTHEID state exist. You live in a counrty where free speech is at the front of democarcy and free speech is cherised. Boy O Boy why are you so affrid of the truth. If he laid a wreath in Yad Vashem and not at Arafat's grave you would be lording him. The truth can never be silenced.

i know this will not be posted but its ok as ling as an israeli is reading it fuck israel

lula is illiterate demagogue, populist, socialist of fidel type but in brazil it is difficult to play chaves ou fidel. i was sure that in several months after his inaguration he will open concentration camps for dissidents. did not happen because brazil is not argentina, cuba ou venesuela, brazilians are much more open minded and lazy, you can not build camps with them bur you can dance nicely. second, lula wants to do something after 1.01.2011, for example, secretary general of UN, special representative in ME etc.

In response to Brod,USA.Only invite FM's that like Israel. Why O Why are you so affrid of the truth.Nobody has the right to say Israel is wrong. Boy do support an

It is extremely necessary to make the past a little aside so you can envision a better future through the union of people for building a new social order integrated and highly developed in this region. For me Lula and Brazil presents new paradigms that must be observed. Through simple actions, your attitude in wanting to give, shows that one or the other is taking a step to peace. Notice that there is a fight on behalf of 1600 dwellings, which for us is a very simple thing to resolve. Maybe I simply find the size that is Brazil. But you can find solutions together.

the river time after time. He died with millions in stolen funds,given to his wife and a reputation for sexual adventure. Lula a typical leftist.

What a low grade professional appeaser. Maybe improving economy to the point of eliminating favelas poverty and make people little bit happier better dream for any hi profile hypocrite.

Or the world's lungs not being cut down for palm oil profit? Or indigenous people of Brazil being given control of their land? Do that, then come back to Israel and demand that the indigenous people (Jews) be given their ancestral lands back (well, not all of them e.g. up to Damascus etc, but certainly the bits between Egypt and Jordan). Some of us would then disagree with you though. We would say that even though Arab countries treat their Palestinian Arabs like dirt, Israel is right to give them solid rights as citizens in Israel (not perfect, but tiny Israel struggles with perfection less than some "democracies" which are not under constant attack). We'd call for giving them a State of their own, since their actual State, Jordan, is run by a recently implanted Saudi minority. But forget about Jerusalem. Arafat robbed his people (and their donors) blind & denied them a State countless times. No hero. Except for keeping Hamas down.

Brazil has been lifted out of the 3rd world during his presidency. He does not deserve the derision or contempt being thrown his way in this forum. It is a big non-Jewish world out there folks and there are many takes on the 'Israeli situation'. Many will not square up with your own but they need to be responsibly engaged, debated, and through civil dialogue, convinced of your beliefs and values. This is your country's great challenge, to win the war of ideas by showing the strengths of your Nation and its people. Name calling and derision puts you on track to the 3rd world he is just leaving.

LOL...he should be dreaming about freedom from poverty, persecution by the police of the poor in brasil...and why not a few thoughts for the amazonian injuns whose land he is stealing ?

Thanks to Manahem Begin, the Grandfather of Modern Terrorism. Irgun and Gangstern were led by terrorist israeli PM Manahem Begin.

Ahhhhh! I get it now, There is no absolute truth such as, cutting people's heads off while videoing for human consumption across the Internet is a bad thing, since to some this is the act of Freedom Fighters. Am I getting the drift?

Make this guy leave via a tunnel.

Many times jews are blamed for the world problems & the time of those who blamed her is numbered. Obama blaming israel for the mideast problems is not unexpected in the world we are living in now. The U.S policies every where are not working. There are pockets of vacuums all over the world. Also a strong desire for change mostly to the unknown ! A situation no one supper power can discipline or control. If israel wants to continue existing,israel must rethink how to relay on itself ! The united states help to israel have its limit. the U.S influence is under attack and the crisis are very much showing in every policy the U.S undertaking vis a vis the world. Israel must be bold and like any other country must only do what it can to protect itself from the outside world. The Biden & israel right to build on israel proper is just a symptom & a test.Israel must not & never give up on its rights on what the national interest required ! Every other country is the same!

As a Humanist Loo, I would very much appreciate your support for my new "Freedom Fighting" group to reinstate the Native Americans back into their rightful position as keepers of the country you now call the USA. How do you align yourself to the biggest land grab of them all? I'm sure you will support their rights with the same fervour you give to Palestinians' rights. The only difference is, Jews don't originate from Poland, Germany etc...they come from Israel, so what period of time should pass before stolen land becomes the property of the thief. Do you know? I thought not.

When the sattelite flies over Brazil it shows how Brasilia allows the "settlers" to clear the under brush, with the result of doing no little damage to the Ozone. Then too, the Indigenous peoples are having a hard time holding on to their ancestral lands as a result of that policy. After that you come to the Ancestral lands of the Jewish people and tell us what to do. Isn't it enough to wreak havoc with the world's physical climate to come here and create mayhem in the Holy Land!

rightful owners; a Palestine free from greedy Arabs who lay claim to what does not belong to them...so peace can reign; a Palestine which no Egyptian like Horrorfat can hijack. This wreath-laying ceremony brings to mind that Israel should not have allowed him to be buried in Rum-allah. Lulu should have had to Egypt to lay the reed.

Debbie, Your grandfather, Irving Schlussel was my first Hebrew teacher. He was also respected leader of the Zionist movement in the Detroit area for many years. Your father, or maybe it was your uncle was always up on events occuring in the State in the days that preceded '67. I fear I have to say that your comments on this talkback do a disservice to both your grandfather and . . .

Israelis, dear Debbie,not Isrealis!!!

"They have always been a minority living under either the Islamic and Christian control" Do you actually believe your own patently ludicrous statement? Islam was not founded until the 7th century AD, Israel was in existence as an entity as long ago as 1400 BCE, so how do you come to the conclusion that the Jews were living under Muslim or Christian control? Jesus was a Jew under Muslim control? I didn't know that you could backdate a religion. Jordan is (Palestinian) Arab land run as a private kingdom by the Hashemites who are now revoking the Jordanian citizenship of Palestinians. Why are you not fighting for that land?

Stop making comparisons before you learn the facts.Haganah and even Etzel and Lehi didn't massacre innocent citizens, didn't hijack airplanes, didn't murder Olympic athletes, didn't murder babies in their cradle etc. etc.Lehi murdered 2 British sergeants but they were a tiny group and most of the Jewish community was against them. Go learn some history, Meidele! P.S.Arafat was a corrupted leader and made a fortune on the back of his people. Check the lifestyle of his widow.

Free from endemic corruption from Lula and his PT (worker's party) gangs, free from newspaper cencorship, free from hideous jail conditions, free from police death squads, free from narco trafficking, and free from more LIES from Lula and his shameless gang.

"George Washington, Thomas jefferson, Nelson Mandela, all were also terrorists" Did they kill unarmed civilians, including women and children? Did they massacre British athletes? Did they make a fortune from stealing their people's money? You ought to put a Schlussel on your tongue until you learn the facts.

have really wet dreams ?

Would Israel demise help you in finally landing a hubby ?

well done lula!is good to hear there are honest politicians!

... who was a militant Pal leader... so what's all the fuss about...?

George Washington, Thomas jefferson, Nelson Mandela, all were also terrorists.

This is symptomatic of the entire P/I conflict. Zionists want to fabricate a history that they expect people to bow down to. Herzl died and was buried in Vienna before there was an Israel on the map much less many Jews in Palestine? How many founding fathers of states do you know where buried outside the state they supposedly fought to liberate? George Washington wasn't buried in Ireland to only be resurrected in Virginia decades later as the founding father. Yet, that's the crazy narrative Zionists are peddling. This is symptomatic, Herzl was a FICTION WRITER, a playwright and good to see a leader refuse to follow a script written by scoundrels. Arafat, say what you will about the guy, was in the bunker fighting for his country until his last breath - not in Vienna sipping tea writing fiction. Herzl and Marx as history has shown brought about much suffering and war. They are not people to be admired - much less glorified.

And please leave out the 'we dug' bullshit: leftie, assimilated Michigan Jews have as much to do with Israel as Brazilian revolutionaries...

You will not have many to invite big guy... Cheers A

After your snub of the founder of Zionism, keep dreaming amigo!!!

I don't recall the Haganah and even Etzel or Lehi hijacking airplanes, killing hundreds of people or making a fortune from their people's money.

From what I've read about him Lieberman seems like a nasty piece of work. Perhaps future visitors will insist Lieberman boycotts their visit.

Brazil maybe the 3rd economy but Brazilian little children are still digging in the garbage for food! Don't be so pessimistic!

...were all "freedom fighters?" The British didn't think so. Who's the "grandfather of terrorism?" Begin, Shamir...et al? Yassir fought terror with terror. Stop lying. Salaam/Shalom

Israel's forefathers would be disgusted with the rabid Jewish extremists. President Lula recognises the plight of the "second class citizens." And lebensraum. Salaam/Shalom

Israel should not allow any foreign leaders into its shores only to provide them a platform to trash Israel and boost the propaganda machinery of the Islamist-Jihadists against Israel. It is time Israel invites only foreign leaders who are pro-Israel to counter the propaganda of the the wolves and tigers of the region.

And your point is? The Palestinian cause shouldn't be on the map? They should just suck it up and disappear? Or are you prepared to give the Palestinians full democratic rights in a unified Israeli/Palestinian state? Since you have the IDF,and complete military superiority it's your choice.

"Ever wonder how it is that in Brazil they speak Portugese, half a world away from Portugal? Maybe Lula should return his stolen land to the indigenous peoples of Brazil and go back to Portugal" Ever wonder how it is that in the USA they speak ENGLISH, half a world from ENGLAND? Maybe the USA where you are should return the stolen land to the indegenous people of the land called "USA" & go back to England OR their respective countries . It's no news to you too live on the stolen land of the Natives .

You had better educate yourself on a few facts before calling Arafat the "grandfather of terrorism". The true founders of what we know today as "terrorism" were people like Begin and Ben-Gurion who led their thuggish gangs in raids of Palestinian villages and massacred the inhabitants all for the purpose of frightening Palestinians into fleeing their land so the Zionist movement could achieve it's twisted land theft plan. They did this many years before Arafat was even in a position of power. Every modern terrorist learned their tactics from them!!

Shuebydoo, I have to add to Tony Silver's comments. Not only does history document that palestinians are jews that converted to christainty first and later to Islam, genetics show it. Arabs and Eastern jews are genetically related to each other more than any other race/ethnicity. AS SUCH THE PALESTINIANS HAVE THE SAME RIGHT TO THE HOLY LAND AS THE JEWS!! After all we are genetically identical (so why do you have a right to the land, while a palestinian villager in Jenin or Nazareth does not?) Please read the following article (there are at least four more articles that report the same findings), but this is the oldest one: http://kinoko.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~duraid/stolen_science/The_Origin_of_Palestinians_and_Their_Genetic_Relatedness_With_Other_Mediterranean_Populations.pdf Shuebydoo, please before posting idiotic comments that shows your arrogance: KNOW YOUR HISTORY BECAUSE WE (the palestinians) KNOW OURS.

which speaks volumes of the Brazilian President. Arafat's PLO began their magnificent career starting with the Munich Massacre. Every country bore witness to this and still forgets... I mention this even to those who loath Israel. If those folks consider Israel a terrorist state that still doesn't explain glorifying a person who personifies terrorism in all respects. Terror got the Palestinian cause on the map therefore terrorism pays.. or so it seems. How unfortunate indeed for the entire world.

"On Tuesday, Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman said he had boycotted meetings with Lula because the Brazilian leader did not visit the grave of the founder of modern Zionism, Theodor Herzl." If Avigdor does not like to meet with world leader, then what on earth is he doing as a Foreign Minister? This is joke!!! Definitely one of the dumbest moves that Natanyhu made to form a government!!! What's even more amazing it that he has survived for a year as FM!!!!

He shook the hands of the Iranian Holocaust Denier. He should not be involved in any Peace talks.

Lula insulted Israel by refusing to visit Herzl's tomb.

who were converted to Christianity and Islam after the Roman expelled jews from that land! read history please.

There is a history of loss by the Jewish people of the land - the Egyptians, the Babylonians and the Romans. It was Darius (Persian) who freed them from Babylon and ordered the temple to be rebuilt - the one the Romans destroyed. Jerusalem was a Canaanite city with a history at least 1000 years prior to the Jews arriving. The Canaanites are the ancestors of the modern Palestinians. Sinful Israel(i government) should be more concerned with its own actions than those of other men? The fear is that history will repeat itself.

A cut from Wikipedia: In Altneuland, Herzl outlined his vision for a new Jewish state in the Land of Israel. Herzl summed up his vision for an open society: ?It is founded on the ideas which are a common product of all civilized nations? It would be immoral if we would exclude anyone, whatever his origin, his descent, or his religion, from participating in our achievements. For we stand on the shoulders of other civilized peoples. ? What we own we owe to the preparatory work of other peoples. Therefore, we have to repay our debt. There is only one way to do it, the highest tolerance. Our motto must therefore be, now and ever: ?Man, you are my brother.?? (Quoted in ?Zion & the Jewish National Idea?, in Zionism Reconsidered, Macmillan, 1970 PB, p.185)

Not more than Haganah, Irgoun and Lehi

Begin and Shamir were officially branded as terrorists by the British government but then they had dinner with the queen of England.

go!saw another thread about life in israel in time of jesus.they mentioned roman war of 70ad.seems like today you are the romans and palestinians are jews.over weening weapons and pride.and pride goeth before the fall.

Is there anybody in Israel who really thinks that Palestine will not emerge pretty soon? Are Israelis really that dettached from reality? Don't you comprehend the point that Israel will only be safe, if the Palestinians are safe? And that it's time to look at each other on the same eye level?

Keep dreaming Lula...so called "Palestinians" are imposters; they've hijacked the name given to Israel by the Romans after the 2nd Jewish revolt. Today's Palestinians are almost 100% Arab and they do not want peace. As long as there is conflict the UNRWA keeps getting funded annually in the multi-millions of dollars. The UNRWA is the worlds largest employer of Palestinians (approx. 30,000 employed). Earlier this year, Canada opted to defund the UNRWA directly because much of the money is diverted to fund terrorism. The rest of the world should follow suit. When there is no incentive and money involved to foment unrest, only then can peace move forward. And, what in the world is a "free Palestine" -- Palestine was Israel and is now free.

Lula cuts right thru the 'Big Lie' hasbara, doesn't he? What a breath of fresh air!

inconsistent

i want to be amoung the crowd leiberman boycotts

Ever wonder how it is that in Brazil they speak Portugese, half a world away from Portugal? Maybe Lula should return his stolen land to the indigenous peoples of Brazil and go back to Portugal.

Maybe that is one of the problems of the Oslo accords between palestinians and Israelies. But it is what it is. Israel is not required to stall colonization till the last phase of the peace process. The Geneva convention forbides states to establish settlements in the territories of a conquered state. The West Bank is not a state. The SC have never deliver sanctions against Israel for settling in the West Bank. Chapter 6 is irrelevant. What it counts is Chapter 7 of the SC which deals with the real bad guys. The rest is legalistic nonsense. Nothing to do with this conflict.

...due to rule the world for the next 100 years. Its good to take notice that the leader of Brazil isn't bought by Jewish lobbyists. If Israel wants to fight the BRIC-pact countries like Russia and China, it will turn out to be a very costly mistake as the BRIC countries are already far more powerful compared to the U.S. Oh and Lieberman boycotted Lula? I think Lieberman did Lula a favor.

is not among the requirements for candidates to the Brazilian presidency...

Yes, keep on dreaming like the Palistinians, just dream on. Nothing is ever achieved by dreaming.Dreaming is easy and will only result in nightmares.

Mark, never heard of the roadmap? Let me help you, Israels first commitment of the Road Map is .... a stop of building settlements. Signed and agreed for by .... hmmm ... Israel. Oh, and building in occupied territories is illegal under international law. So, what is not true, your Talkback that it is not true. Get real, get informed and get reasonable Of course, you can choose to deny

To #1 The history of jews in this land is well known. They have always been a minority living under either the Islamic and Christian control. More recently, with the support of world powers, they controlled the land and expelled millions of Palestinians from their homes. To #7 Arafat was a freedom fighter and so the Palestinians are. If you have misunderstand what does it mean to defend yourself, family, and your land against someone how claim it belongs to him, then go educate yourself. You should not offend people by your misconceptions. You do not live there to try how does it feel that IDF knocks your house at 4 AM and asks to go out in front of your children even though you never hurl a stone on them. Even if we don't want to look at the situation this way, what do you say for millions of people who have their lands, homes, families, holy sites, in this land? Go to Jordan or Saudi Arabia? You better leave your country and move somewhere else.

"While the Palestinians had implemented their obligations under interim agreement" ABBAs _____ Produced Hamas? Extra-palestinian terrorist organization?

Go home,and by the way,that extension you are planning to build on your house in a few years,uh uh nope,nana,nisht.We demand you not build..Also the Brazilian placed a wreath on Arafats grave? Very nice gesture. I would have preferred that he urinated on it..Nothing changes.Stay tough Bibi.Screw them all.

Brazil will be a top 3 economy in 10 years, We are staring to see the demise of the Isreali state, Never in my lifetime have I seen this. It is the new trend now to oppose occupations and to uphold human dignity. Isreal is doomed, we dug our own graves , by being arrogant.

Israel was/is under no legal obligation for a "total freeze" on settlement building in any agreement anywhere." Under the UN Charter, Laws of War and Geneva conventions, Israel is legally obliged NOT to build ANY Israeli civilian structures in "territories occupied"

Even Brazilian Presidents have nightmares!!!!

This Lula and his party is a great shame and a big problem for all of us, brazilians - a lot of crimson but no morality.

Sool Danny onto him, quick, quick! And don't forget to remove the Brazilian flag while you're at it.....

You sound like you've just eaten a bag of sour grapes...a visiting president of a foreign country has his own agenda: bilateral agreements, trade, investment, cultural exchange etc. Speaking flowery words belongs to diplomacy. Neither Israël nor the PA should grant them any attention.

Must be another "Friend" of Israel .

He visits a terrorist and not visit the Theodor Herzl. Nonsense !!

The revisionist history is amazing. Arafat was not a "freedom fighter" he was a terrorist and he created terror not just directed at Israel or the UNtil the current administration, the Pals were not seen as fighting for freedom. They were given peace chances before.. they always did and always will want all of Israel. The world leaders are not looking at history nor for Israel but are simply looking at an easy way to appease the huge number of muslim and islamic populations in their home countries. They have become powerful political forces as well as important economic source. (Maddoff really hurt Israel by taking down such big money Jews)

Israel was/is under no legal obligation for a "total freeze" on settlement building in any agreement anywhere. While it is what the Pals want, Israel has never agreed to it, they have always done limited and temporary agreements. When the Pals have violated their agreements they rightfully lifted those bans on settlement building. For instance after BiBi gave his peace speech at Bar-llan, Abbas responded with a speech to return to violence to achieve its goals. Hamas responded that they would never accept Israel's "right to exist" and would only agree to a ten year Hudna(ceasefire). In return Hamas wanted a country based on the 67 borders without recognizing Israel's rights. Who would go for such a ludicrous offer. Israel lifted dozens checkpoints in the WB and settler was shot in his car the next day where one checkpoint was lifted. We all want peace but the Pals don't even have a unified government to negotiate with. Dangerous simplifications of the issues for peace from Lula.

What a waste of dreaming power! I dream about how to spend my tens of millions of winnings - and it won't be on a Palestinian state. I may sponsor some Palestinian high-tech startups, a Palestinian national debating society to teach Pal kids Roberts Rules of Order, and a Palestinian Civil Rights Association that will fight for rights for Pals against their own government, not the Israelis. A Pal state? Dream on... the odds are millions to one against it happening anytime soon...

Quote: "While the Palestinians had implemented their obligations under interim agreements, Israel should do the same," he [Abbas] told a news conference in Ramallah with the visiting Brazilian leader.' Indeed. No excuses about natural growth, no excuses of legally holding claims on some parts of the West Bank/East Jerusalem, while denying similar Palestinian claims, no excuses (or better self-delirium) on Jerusalem as undived capital, no religious bla bla, no denial of the existence of the Palestinians, no more discrimination, racism and hate. Israel should just (and only that) keep itself to its signed agreements with the Palestinians and International Law. What is so difficult here? Stop ever-expanding zionism. Otherwise, Lieberman and entourage can boycot himself into oblivion. And with him his country and the viability of Israel. Make peace now Israel, in your own interest and as best solution to your survival. After that, address together with the world the Iranian threat

He is a rare breed, he had the guts to refuse to be used {as usual) by israel in photo opportunities to be used as a marketing tool in Brazil to show that their popular president is a supporter of Zionism. He is the MAN.

It should be news when lieberman makes it to a meeting with a foreign president.

This guy is clueless. Will someone please explain the history of Israel to Lulu before he says more absurd things??