Bin Laden issues new tape warning U.S. against ties with Israel

It was no secret. He even joked that many of the hijackers did not even know that they were on a suicide mission. http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/binladen_10-29-04.html

Wash your hands often. You are a prime candidate for swine flu!

The tape said "Obama is a "Mustdaa'f" which here means "victimized" or forced to act against his original intentions. "Istidaaf" means he has been rendered weaker. In other word he has been weakened -- by forces around him.

Strength wins, weakness loses. Arabs had to be killed and displaced to create israel. Indians had to be killed and displaced to create U.S. . Same story all over this planet. Osama uses the same formula but is on the losing side of it. Right and wrong have nothing to do with all of this. If it did this world would be far different.

Hoping to find relevance cloaked as a freedom fighter for Palestine as the world closes in around them.

I take your point, it is not the first time OBL has offered a cessation of hostilities against the US and EU states in return for an equivalent response in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, and it comes as no surprise that he still offers no compromise on Israel and it's illegal occupation......

Is via a SEANCE !!!! Read "1984" and check out "GOLDSTEIN"

It's all rubbish. All these fake videos that pop on you tube these days with grainy footage and some guy wearing a fake beard is hilarious. For one Osama never admitted that he ordered the attacks. the man is popular for releasing audio tapes to the CIA every once in a while, but the man is definitely dead and probably died before the Afghani invasion. Tell me a source where Osama admitted he was responsible for ordering the attacks and I will gladly change my opinion

First off, it must be great to be an American. Second did you say Eurabia is to be watched? Listen chap, you can't blame Europe for getting balanced news on foreign affairs. I understand the Murdoch machine there in the States pushes Israel's so small, it's a victim, blah blah blah agenda, but unless the rest of the world is wrong, the fact is Israel was the cause of the conflict. Them crazy Arabs did not have issues with Jews until the great master plan was developed by the Jews, largely as a result of what Christian Europe did to them. After all, weren't those Sephardic or Mizrahi Jews living in Arab candy land living decent lives prior to Zionism?

Do you not realize that we are all being attacked because there is a global jihad as Islam wants to subdue all other religions except Islam and bring in Sharia Law over all the Earth. We are in a religious war, and a fight for our Western civilization of democracy and freedom. Jews, Christians and non-believers will have no part in this worldwide Islamic caliphate if this death cult has its way. The sooner all countries wake up and realize what`s happening, the sooner we will fight back and stop trying to appease muslims everywhere!

"Obama ... will not be able to stop the war." Bin Laden is probably correct. Not that he, Bin Laden, will be able to do anything about it. The truth will out when Bin Laden is captured or killed. Will the war stop because its ostensible goal has been fulfilled? Trade Center avenged? Or will it go on for some ...... more mundane rationale?

the facts on iraqi oil are as follows.the nation has huge reserves which if properly exploited would keep a lid on the then fast exploding price of oil. it was thought that the iraqi shias would welcome the americans.the latter would develop the huge potential of iraqi oil and the world would end up with more and cheaper oil. that as we now know did not happen. i hope that is satisfactory silvienne.

Eurabia is who Israel should worry about.

"Not just me, many people believe that the war in Iraq was fought on behalf of Israel." There are obviously a lot of simple minded, gullible people in the world. Saddam Hussain was not revered in the Bush household for his effort to murder Bush senior. If Bush Jr. wished to do anything for the benefit of Israel it would have been to deal with Syria, as then Iran would have no easy way of supplying Hezbollah. That would have removed two threats on the border of Israel and Syria is part of "the axis of evil". The Saudis also took care of the families of suicide bombers so that in itself is no motive.

"the reason was the huge oil deposits in iraq and which the west wants for itself." And that is why gasoline is so expensive in America now, I suppose? You've got all the answers, do tell...

"i of course do not want to upset you.and i am sure you will take these words in the friendly spirit with which they are intended." You read him perfectly!!!

Spain has done 0 for Israel yet Al Quaeda attacked Spanish rail transportation and murdered innocents. The same goes for Britain and the UK does 0 for Israel. Al Quaeda has murdered thousands of Muslims in Iraq and they did 0 for Israel. If the US dropped Israel and began to support the Palestinians, somehow Osama would still find reasons to murder Americans, Muslims, Israelis, Brits, Spaniards and everyone else that he chose.

but you do have to be more straightforward with the site.your pretence of neutrality and humanism are if i may so pure hogwash. i of course do not want to upset you.and i am sure you will take these words in the friendly spirit with which they are intended.

As in peace with Islam and boundaries, and partition etc...it is relevant to remember than in the Indian Punjab (and all of India) there are lots and lots of Muslims. However in Pakistani Punjab...well... What happened to all of the Sikhs and Hindus in the Punjab that was left in Pakistan. It is relevant to remember just what the end game of all of these people (with the employment of their useful enablers)

that is news to me linthwaite.when did that happen exactly.if it did ever happen then a rather rare event in comparison to the daily flag burnings among your arab brethren.

friendship with israel. quite wrong linthwaite.al qaeda said quite clearly in their first announcement that they were most concerned with the presence of american forces in saudi arabia.israel was never mentioned.it is only latterly that they have added israel to their narrative.

quite wrong linthwaite.the reason was the huge oil deposits in iraq and which the west wants for itself. that is also why the persian gulf has stacks of american carriers. and that is why also qatar has become a huge air base for the usa. and the huge numbers of troops in kuwait.

....why the U.S. has such a problematic image in the world (not only in the Arab world), is the unilateral support for Israel, which is seen by the vast majority of people abroad as totally unfair and unjustified. There wouldn't be a bigger blow for UBL than a just peace between Israel and her Arab neighbours, and of course he is fully aware of that. Therefore it actually can't be in the best interest of Al-Kaida to have all of a sudden a moderate, fair-minded administration in Washington D.C..... ....which again leaves some rather serious questions with regard to the authenticity of this tape.

Look, you are simply giving your own "interpre- tation" of UBL's words. While I tried to reflect how UBL's message was understood and delivered today by the worldwide media (including U.S): "We, Al-Kaida, attacked you, the American people on 9/11 because we don't like your support for Israel..." We both know, that this is only part of the truth (in fact, in the past, UBL always cited the U.S. presence in Saudi Arabia as the main reason for launching the 9/11 attack). But on the other hand, everybody knows, that the main reason, why the U.S. has a (rather severe) image problem in the Muslim world, is indeed the unilateral (and often seen as unfair) U.S. support for Israel. And there is of course a reason why I used quotation marks for the word "moderating"....

Bin Laden seems to be groping for a new justification for his actions. His original cause, the presence of infidel troops in Saudi has been largely accomplished. As a result of the invasion of Iraq the US was asked to get it's troops out and we have moved to other Gulf States. Bin Laden has seen Al Quaeda take big hits. His unwitting best ally, George W. Bush is gone. The Taliban tried to bomb the ISI HQ and now they don't have the support they once did from Pakistan. Only in Afghanistan are things going well, but that is only because of the insane neglect of the USA during the period 2002-2008. No longer the driving force it once was, Al Queada is trying to jump 'me too' on to any cause it can.

Only an idiot would believe that this is a genuine Bin Laden speech. But it does give good advice. Stop supporting Israel.

This is true, and Bin Laden went about things in the wrong way is an understatement, and the American people would rather shoot the messenger. And that is understandable. However looking at the bigger global picture, and the amount of Aid the United states gives year on year. One has to ask why they are so hated. In fact why are they hated enough for people to fly planes into buildings on that horrible day. That was the question which was not ask never mind answered in the 9/11 Commission Report. It is not without irony that Glasgow Airport in the UK was bombed by suicide bombers, that is where American flights loaded with munitions for Israel during Lebanon2 were refuelled.

Not just me, many people believe that the war in Iraq was fought on behalf of Israel. As there was no strategic reason for the US or the UK for matter to invade Iraq when we still hadn't finished the Bin Laden business. So yes I believe that with the horrendous death toll from the suicide bombings in Israel, and the financial inducements provided by Hussein to the families of the bombers. AIPAC did a bit of lobbying behind the scenes asking for help in stopping the suicide bombings by removing the financier for them. You and me bith agree with one thing the aftermath of the victory which was never in doubt was badly managed by Rumsfeld.

he/she is a radical terrorist or at least supporter of terrorism.

Bin Laden first had his nose knocked out of joint when he offered his services to the Saudi King to kick Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait, and was refused. He then condemned King Faisal for allowing US troops into Saudi territory, and he ensured the US withdrawal with an attack on the Khobar Towers (spelling). He then in a further audio stated that he had the idea for 9/11 after seeing US munitions dropped by American built Israeli planes collapsing apartment blocks in Beruit. Don't get me wrong I think he is a prize bastard who deserves to be burnt alive like what he did to those in the twin towers. But to be selective on why he chose, after recieving American help to kick the Russians out of Afghanistan, to attack the hand that fed him, because it is a bit unpalatable is just as disingenuous as me just agreeing that you is right for a quite life.

In the past in many of your posts you were supporting Hamas saying that they are peaceful people who accept the existence of Israel etc. Today you are praising Bin Laden as a moderate, who is in fact responsible of the death of almost 3000 civilians minding their daily business in the USA as well as many in London, Madrid, Istanbul, Bali, and Mumbai etc. Your description of being moderate seems to require to be an enemy of the state of Israel. Your posts clearly state that. The people that you support as moderates are Hamas and Bin Laden.

I know his elder brother Salem used to work together with G W Bush (Arbusto Energy Company). Try to find out who Usama works for.

Your comment is true. To avoid furure problems the US has to change it foreign policy and be an honest broker.

I don't live in fear Osama. You and your cowardly rank and file do. You target regular people, not soldiers. Is this being a man? Is this what the Koran brings to the world? You bring shame on yourself and your people. Die like a man. Stop hiding like a mouse.

Osama can't win. After 9/11, people turned to religion. Obama won. Support for Israel increased.

An AUDIO tape? Seriously? And since when did Al Qaeda care about Palestinians? They don't. They will occasionally exploit the issue to draw support. The essence of the group is to oppose the projection of American power into countries with Muslim populations. If anything, Al Qaeda hates Israel BECAUSE the US supports it, not the other way around.

if this bin ladin character isn't the biggest lies in our modern history then i don't know what is. the whole world excluding some wahabi lunatics despise this man and what he stands for, and best of all he knows he is nothing but a burden upon Muslims and Islam yet you hear his voice blabbing away, which makes me wonder why would a man that is running for his life under the gun of thee most powerful nation in the world come out and talk about Palestine and the Aqsa mosque yet in his own backyard he cant hide under the same rock for more then an hour!!! this is absurd, no one with their right mind would fall for such crap and most important if he truly was still alive and he is willing to stand sooo tall where are his video tapes??? bin ladin is dead, this is nothing more then little propaganda to help those that play cheap politics, hmm i wonder who could that be.

"The time has come for you to liberate yourselves from fear and the ideological terrorism of neo-conservatives and the Israeli lobby," Bin Laden's latest tape said" If anything this will make the American people even more angry at bin ladin. He's pouring fuel on the fire. bin ladin talks about "what time it is". I can do that too. The time has come to find this insect, put him on trial and execute him.

Please say you don't seriously believe the US invaded Iraq for Israel. Israel hasn't even been that worried about Saddam in more than a decade before the war His rockets were gone,no land border, there was a no fly zone being enforced and thanks to the oil for food Saddam was not getting any new weapons and although he was giving money to terrorist families he was not arming them. Saddam was one of the few arab leaders who didn't allow his country to be used as a terrorist training base Iraq was the least of Israels problems with or without WMDS The US may or may not have believed that Saddam had WMDS Iraq was a secretive country & he had them in the 90s at least. Partly I think it was a personal crusade of Bushes wanting to finish off what he believed his father hadn't in 1991 and he was on a crusade to spread democracy. The US mistakenly believed that once Saddam was gone Iraqis would be so grateful they would be singing God bless America in the street & it would be a peacefull.

invent stories all the time. Bin Laden expressly stated that 9/11 was due to the presence of infidels (American troops) on the holy Saudi soil. Once US troops departed, his story changed to occupation of Palestine. Only idiots believe and buy your story.

israel will seek new allies...!!!! and pray who are the potential allies, falling over themselves to become israels allies? america is the only fool which for some unknown reason supported a israel which has lost its way. having realised its folly its now trying to pull its nuts out of the fire. israel; is skating on thin ice... get real ... accept the arab peace plan before it gets swept off the table. arrogance will otherwise destroy israel

Saudi Islamist-Jihadist Wahhabhist sponsored Bin Laden and his thugs attacked America, destroyed billions of dollars in assets and murdered 3000 Americans in cold blood on 9/11. American Justice MUST conquer Mountains and traverse valleys to hunt for Bin Laden and his thugs till they are ELIMINATED. They are hiding in their safe places in Pakistan. American Special Forces MUST enter Pakistan to hunt them even if the Pakistan government opposes. NO government can hide these thugs from American Justice! Governments and Countries who deliberately hide them and try to stop American Justice from reaching them should be treated as enemies to be subdued. There is NO point for America and NATO to waste resources in warring against the Taliban. However, American Justice MUST prevail against Bin Laden and his Islamist-Jihadist thugs/zombies till they are ELIMINATED.

Let the al qaida lobby go back to their own countries and the President go back to his health service reform. You could always try to adopt the Israeli health system, it works OK in the Middle East.

he lies low and uses al jazeera as his newsagent.he has become all talk.some think his business has become a franchise. anyone who wishes can open a terrorist outlet.actually a reprise of the gang that couldnt shoot straight

Events in Israel re flag burnings etc have no effect on Aerican Public opinion because it is not shown on American media. If it was the sight of Israeli Jews burning the American flag might just see the change in relations that Ozzy Bin Laden is seeking. As for anti americanism it has always been so, the fact it is so extree at the moment is a result of policies by recent American governments such as Bush Jnr and Snr, Ronald Reagan. Who did more to alienate the arabs in the middle east than anybody else since the recreation of the State of Israel.

It is not a lie. We invaded Iraq because of Israeli assertions thatSaddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction that he was going to give to Al Qaeda. Sadan Hussein was alos sponsoring suicide bobmbings in Israel by giving the families of the bombers $25,000 for every pop. Al lot of money if you are a Palestinian. As for your cliams that we have not been at war on behalf of Israel. Apparently Bin Laden thinks that we have been. His words not mine. If we didn't support Israel to the extent that we do, there would have been no 9/11, Bin Laden's words not mine. And if I believe that we invaded Iraq on behalf of Israel, then that cannot be a lie, that is my personal belief. And the evidence points to it. And now Israel wants us to attack Iran.

If governments begin to listen to Mr. Bin Laden, there is finally a chance for our banks to have him switch his bank deposits from Saudi banks to our marvelous system. We will guarantee him not only great interest but true privacy. Are we witnessing kind of a Bin Laden "age- mildness"...??? :)

Regarding your obnoxious and racist post concering President Obama, have you ever heard the phrase, "biting the hand that feeds you"? If you haven't, that's a pity. Because it applies to you--and Israel--very well.

"The US has been at war for 8 years on behalf of Israel`s settlement enterprise, maybe it is now time to end it" More than time. Long past time, in fact.

It is the Arabic word: "taquiyeh". The statements of Lenin also didn't translate well into Swiss. He had a word for the phenomenon: "Useful Idiots"

but somehow, opinion polls in the U.S. have consistently shown the exact opposite of the Swiss interpretation. Presumably, our favorite Saudi Arabian fascist meant the impact of the far more powerful lobbies of Prince Alwaleed Ibn Talal, members of the brave cave-dwelling soldier's family and the bulk of the petro establishment. His original message in Swiss has obviously been misunderstood.

Osama is good at psychological warfare, his tactic...divide an conquer

Americans don't agree with the settlements, but that doesn't mean we will leave an ally hanging. If you were a real man you would come out of the mountain and fight.

i'm continuing the "charming" way of commenting on some of your statements. :) bin laden asks for "a liberation of the white house". in his terms that means conversion to islam, for the US as a whole as well. where's AIPAC in this current context? bin laden is talking about the obama administration, not bush. if anything, obama is under the influence of j-street, not AIPAC, these days. "occupying OUR land in palestine..". do you read at all? he wants US & allies to stop the war, the one he & al qaida began, the one waged to stop him from having a base, so he can do what he wants. if this is moderation /change on bib laden's part & something mainstream global opinion has any sympathy towards, then heaven help us all! you have some funny ideas about the "mainstream" in your posts, btw. the west has to beat bin laden the same way federer would beat nadal on a good day.. have a nice day,-

Pull out of Iraq & Afghanistan because Bin Laden says so and the result will be Afghanistan goes back to Taliban & Al Quaida control Iraq is taken over by Al Quaida who will overthrow the government. Iraqs oil fields end up in the hands of Al Quaida and they spread into Saudi Arabia & beyond. Think what the Middle East will look like if Al Quaida infiltrate Iran & the other arab states and don't forget the oil supply of which would become more unstable The US has alot to loose by ditching Israel & Obama doesn't see it. Israel is the only country America has traditionally known it can always rely on in the region. Turn on Israel & anti US governments get elected, already its becoming popular to hate the US thanks to Obama. There have already been some flag burnings & anti US rallies once unthinkable in Israel & that could grow if Israel is pushed to far Israel will seek new allies & the US will have less influence over Israel politically. The US would loose out from those polices

Last time I checked the US was not at war for 8 years on behalf of Israel. Thats just plain and simple a lie and you know it. Last time I checked the peaceful muslims were attacking anything not muslim or muslims not agreeing with global jihad. They will continue this whether Obama is on office or a republican is in office. They do not like us, get it you are an ifidel. You can appease all you want, blame Israel all you want but the bottom line is you are a target unless you convert.

After 9/11 Bin Laden made several statements as to why he attacked the US. None of them mentioned Israel, and the Palestinians disowned him. If you have any proof that there was censorship at that time to protect Israel cite the source. Bin Laden has become increasingly irrelevant and shifting the blame for his attack on the US to it's ties with Israel is to gain traction with the anti-Israel crowd and you have proven him correct.

Is this a British psyop or what? The Nazis really are in control. If you had any doubts about what is happening, this is proof. Who is this 'voice of bin Laden'? Notice how the narrative of this 'war' metamorphosisis over the years to suit the agendas! It appears there is clearly a 'master plan'. Peace = War. Friend = Enemy. Life = Death.

....may have a problem with the (rather unduly) meddling of AIPAC + Neoconservatives into the U.S. foreign policy regarding the Middle East, their admiration for UBL is also a rather limited one (to put it very mildly). Or in other words, they may agree with the "message", but they will have more than a little problem with accepting the "messenger"....

As opposed to when George W Bush was in power and Ozzy Bin Laden's messages appeared to fit in with Bush's call for a crusade against the Muslims in order to protect Israel. Interestingly Bin Laden seemed to have a pretty realistic grasp of world events and the nuances of the current Political struggle in the US. However, everyone is missing the main point. Bin Laden has actually stated how we can get out of Iraq and Afghanistan. And I am thinking, if it gains traction, the US may find it acceptable to cut back on American ties and financial support for Israel. In return for bringing the troops home. An interesting conundrum for the American people. The US has been at war for 8 years on behalf of Israel's settlement enterprise, maybe it is now time to end it.

Who is Ben Laden serving?

The message Bin Laden has just delivered is one, which a vast majority of neutrals vis a vis Iraq and Afghanistan are thinking (what we doing there? it is time to pullout?). Many believe the reasons given by Bush for the war in Iraq indicayed that it was a proxy war on behalf of Israel. Saddam Hussein sponsored suicide bombings in Israel at $25,000 a pop. Obviously the issue of Israeli/American ties was not considered by the 9/11 Commission Report and any mention of it has been censored within the US media. Even more interestingly Barack Hussein Obama was carried to the White Hiuse on a promise of reining in the lobbies and their influence within the White House. For a guy supposedly living in a cave he is remarkably well informed.

The conflict between the US & Al Quaida is not about the close relationship the US did have before Obama its about their desire to create a global caliphite. I am sure this is one of the reasons but its not the only reason. After 9/11 nobody even mentioned the US relationship with Israel. What did the Bali bombing have to do with the US relationship with Israel? Bin Laden has seen that Obama has this mistaken belief that the cause of all Americas problems and global islamic terror goes back to Israel so he has been trying to show the muslims he is on their side not Israels. This is why he has been making a tour of the islamic world, bowing down to saudi royalty, telling the EU to accept Turkey on the grounds its an islamic state Bin Laden is telling Obama what his ego wants to hear and thats I got it right all along America would be safe if it wasn't for Israel and as a result he has become the puppet of the muslim world. Bin Laden is no fool & using Obama to hurt Israel.

... about the most "timely" moment to utter his vile warnings and prognosis...

Is this guy real? serious? or isn't he always saying what the US wishes to say, but can't?

Bin-Laden :Boy, stop ties with Israel. Obama: Yes, Bwana. It`s high time that Jesus-and-a-half-Obama show Bin-Laden, who is who.

What he says in his new message is not too far away anymore from "mainstream" public opinion around the globe, at least when it comes to the U.S./Israel relations. I'm sure that in many (Western) capitals there is pretty much the same view, when it comes to the influence of the so called "Israel lobby" (AIPAC) in the U.S..... ....at least behind closed doors. Are we witnessing kind of a Bin Laden "age- mildness"...??? :)

Does Bin Laden really think Americans are naive enough to believe that if the U.S topped its support for Israel or if Israel ceased to exist that this would stop his terrorist activities? And what is this about "occupying our land in palestine". Obama does not represent Islam, however even the Koran recognizes the covenant between God & the Jewish people and the Jewish people's rights to the Holy Land.

Does Bin Laden really think Americans are naive enough to believe that if the U.S topped its support for Israel or if Israel ceased to exist that this would stop his terrorist activities? And what is this about "occupying our land in palestine". Obama does not represent Islam, however even the Koran recognizes the covenant between God & the Jewish people and the Jewish people's rights to the Holy Land.

... but the most afraid are the Brits and the Spanish. Wait, also the Swedes! All others are pure...

Of course it would be easy to disown our trusted ally Israel. The Arabs vastly outnumber Israelis in land, population, and resources. And of course those that purportedly support Palestinians have no moral qualms with attacking civilians, ours or otherwise. But as an American, I can say that we stand up to bullies. Israel is a democracy that doesn't hang people for being gay and has a large population of Muslims (something you won't find with Jews in Islamic countries). We stood down fascism, Nazism, and communism. I think we can withstand Islamic terrorism as well. Israel, we are with you!