Biden: Nuclear Iran would threaten United States as well as Israel

is biden that much afraid if iran ? iran so far has no nuke devices to brag about . biden is exagerating facts and forgetting other nuke countries like india,china,pakistan,russia....and of course his sweetheart israel . a man in his position should be more realistic and logical and abide by moral and ethical standards .

No nuclear armed state has ever attacked with nukes when the US nuclear umbrella has been extended. Not once, never happened. And Iran doesn't have nukes, even according to the Israelis.

JB: "Barak just signed off on another 112 apartments, Joe. Were you aware of that before - or only after - Barak jabbed his thumb in your eye?" SDHD: "You were whining for weeks about the freeze being "partial" and not 100%. It dawned on you then. Why isn`t it dawning on you now?" Only a blithering fool could read my post and fail to see its central point i.e. that it is the TIMING of this announcement that is telling. That Israel tramples all over its own "freeze" comes as no surprise to anyone, least of all to me. But it is telling that Israel should ANNOUNCE that it is prostituting its unilateral "gesture" precisely when Biden and Mitchell are on approach to Tel Aviv airport. That makes the Israeli "gesture" crystal-clear i.e. Barak's "gesture" is to poke his thumb in their eye. You can't see that, SDHD? Man, what's that old parable about motes and beams?????

They are damaged by rain and lose stealth. Even if they are flown through clouds. We don't make them anymore.

No Nuclear Weapons power has ever attacked with WMD any state protected by the US Nuclear weapons umbrella. None, not one, never. Maybe you should sign up, just in case, though. Maybe you could join the Israeli Foreign Legion and join their prophylactic attack on Teheran. Maybe they have cool hats like the French Foreign Legion hats.

when it was aquiring it's nukes, funny that, now iran is doing the same, and why do you and israel scream?, because iran is copying exactly what you did, "prophet" you can't see beyond your front yard let alone the future, but i have predicted everything to date 100%, so shut up and attack iran already, i can't wait to see the look on israels and americas face when it cops it really hard.

How can the current US administration claim to be trying to "contain Iran" when it funds and rewards US and foreign corporations that actively do business with Iran? I guess it's consistent with surrounding the US president with good Jews, just as FDR did in the 30's. This allowed FDR to pursue a policy of not allowing Jewish refugees from Europe into the US. The Obama administration in turn does not have to allow Israel to continue its existence.

SDHD: "Blithering fool. You were whining for weeks about the freeze being "partial" and not 100%. It dawned on you then. Why isn`t it dawning on you now?" I'm pointing out the timing of the ANNOUNCEMENT, sunshine. Barak's decision was ANNOUNCED just as Biden's plane was making its descent into Tel Aviv airport. Or didn't you notice that?

"historically iran does not make war" - This is correct. Iran lets its aides from Hamas and Hizbollah do the dirty job.

Sick....while Biden and Obama give Iran and Syria a GREEN light to move towards the annihilation of Israel, this sad character has the audacity to issue the most fatuous pronouncements--ALL of which are meant to keep the status quo and to NOT have to act against the EVIL that is mounting daily and which will come back to haunt Americans before long...

Ya know, that might work. After all it doesn't rain enough in Israel to dissolve the skin of the plane. Of all the stupid suggestions. Arm Israel even more and bring about WW3.

ain't that rich. The most eloquent man in the world, president of israel's staunch ally can't make it to israel, so he sends in laughing boy...the court jester... obama goes to egypt and speaks, goes to turkey and speaks, goes to saudi and bows, even goes to copenhagen to beg for, of all things, the olympics, BUT he doesnt have the time to travel to israel, his staunch ally, but he SAYS he desperately wants peace...instead, he sends in the clown, WHO THEN says, basically, that iran can go nuclear, because we won't stop them, and that the US will help defend israel in a nuclear scenario... now, for one thing, this won't usher in any peaceful era in this region, and for another, the policy of containment will not work for iran..this is NOT russia crica 1960...The words obama said while in campaign mode were, "I will not allow iran to aquire nuclear weapons" ...and? really? well? Obama is rightly despised in israel for being a liar and a muslim apologist. period.

The Obama administration is behaving exactly as did the Bush regime and Cheney must be delighted. The US, even now, sure knows how to breed enemies in the ME.

He said during an interview that it not essential to be Jewish in order to be be a Zionist... The Bush administration was controlled by the Neo-Cons which took care of Israeli interests which they asserted overlapped with those of the USA... Inside of Obama's administration Obama has less say than Bush did... It's obvious that Obama was hatched, groomed, served up in the right packaging to a populace at wit's end, duly voted in and installed by those groups who now are aiding and abetting Israel in entering the final straight in the internationally adjudged illegal acquisition of Palestinian land... Obama's words are only paying lip-service to Arab countries with no real intention to follow through on the grand gestures... With so many die-hard Zionists inside the administration, how could it ever be otherwise... Obama's term will be historic for Israel as so much will be gained during it... Coupled with Netenyahu's leadership and no-holds-barred style, the ever increasingly over-confident and aggressive assault on Palestinian aspirations is so palpable that it must be part of the game-plan which was set in motion under ben-Gurion... namely to get all the land despite the agreement and pledges made and by any means available. Obama is a straw man... an uncle Tom...

The F-22 had big problems. It gets damaged permanently by rain and loses stealth if rained on. There may be some irreparable ones on the market in a few years, if the F-35 problems are solved.

and if iran is attacked they will respond....beware

Someone is doing the math all wrong. Also, what genius is figuring that Iran fires a nuke at the US and none at us here in little old Israel. This is "sabre rattling" without having a sabre. In the meantime Bibi finishes accumulating Palestinian homes and land, walling it in and stalling as long as he needs to. Obama must be aware of and agree to this since only an idiot would look at this and not know what is going on. It appears that Bibi is setting us all up for the next major conflict here and everyone is powerless to stop him.

It is not that diplomacy does not work. It is that the time for diplomacy was back in 2001-2003 when the US had the political, military and economic advantage. Unfortunately, the Iranian threat was ignored. Remember that this was a time when Iran actually looked to the US for protection against al-Qaeda. The Chinese and Russians were not as invested in Iran as they are now. We actually had a moment of opportunity back then, which the Bush administration totally ignored.

intensely dislked by many countries around the world when anti-semitism is at the level it was during the Nazi Regime, and is also unfortunately the ultimate aim for Destruction by the Palestinians in their Charter. So that we should not put America and Israel in the same pouch.

how can such tiny Middle East State give orders to a Great Nation such as America?

China oppressed its people and was "allowed" to have Nukes. The former Soviet Union oppressed its people and was "allowed" to have many nukes. Israel tormented and still torments the Palestinians and was "allowed" to have nukes. India and Pakistan were also "allowed" to have Nukes. And Iran will be allowed to have Nukes, even if all Jews in the world commit suicide.

No one is permitted to make nuclear weapons. Not being an NPT member does not mean certain attack. Look at Israel, North Korea, India, and Pakistan; no one attacks their nuke sites. No war is ever justified. People create wars to satisfy their own agenda.

"Nuclear Iran would threaten United States as well as Israel" Just another lie coming out of the White House as usual when it comes to protecting Israel;the fact is, Iran is already threatened by Israel's more than 200 nuclear bombs and this proves yet again America's BLIND support for the arrogant state of Israel. We have long destroyed our position in the world as a leader of peace, justice and equal treatment under international law, by dictating to some nations, interfering in their internal affairs and favoring one, with huge financial and political support. Frankly put, we have no shame.

...the Iranians will use this to blackmail the world (including the Arabs). There is no consensus among world leaders to handle this out of control situation. As far as missile range is concerned, the US troupes are clearly in range of an attack. Missile accuracy was an issue previously, but Iran has already utilized technology from other countries (like N. Korea) to remedy that. The rhetoric coming out of Iran is becoming more and more beligerant and confrontational with the West. Perhaps a secondary benefit of this behavior is that it makes Arabs feel less threatened; even part of Persia's Grand Plan for now... The killers of Anwar Sadat are glorified in Iran where a street is named in their honor.

translation: accept Iran as a nuclear power.

American people since 1948. Today Americans approve of Israel by almost 70%. If the unholy quartet centered around an alliance with Iran, start a war, they will not finish it. The American aircraft carriers are in the vicinty.

I quote Mehmet: "American policy is that if you lie day and night over and over again, you make other people believe in your nonsense at the end. As simple as that.". Dear Mehmet, do you believe this is *only* American policy? What about Turkish policy to lie day and night about the genocide of the Armenian nation, by the Turks? Irrespective of who or what, if a lie is repeated over and over, it becomes the truth.

So what are YOU going to do about since gates, Mullen and now you are coming here tosay to us "don't attack Iran'. I would rather entrust my security to a donkey that the US admin

So Biden is lying. Ok,I guess Ahmedinejad 's claims to "peaceful purposes only" is thruth. Do you really believe that? Or do you believe he is lying? Iran says they do not want nukes. You say they do for "psychological satisfaction". So who is lying? It's as simple as that.

Let me explain very clearly what is meant by nuclear iran: NUCLEAR BOMB. Is there any ambiguity here?

If we could get the World off the necessity for Iran's oil today, we could bankrupt Iran's expansion tomorrow, but it seems we can't get ourselves out of this right now. There is something that we could do right now, that would certainly put a stop to it. That would be to cut them off by mining the waterways ourselves. It wouldn't take a naval blockade necessarily. But it would be an extremely and costly gamble because it would be an act of war, and Iran would retaliate with whatever it has. It also w/could spark a World War III type of scenario. It's hard to say what it would be like. China would be inclined to do something because it's growth would be stymied. Nations like Russia, Turkey, Syria, and Venezuela would help Iran. Iran would bombard Israel, Jordan, and Egypt with missiles. Yeah, it would be WWIII. Just a thought. There is a possibility that if Iran reacted in such a way that it cut it's supply of oil to China and Russia, the Russians and the Chinese could attack Iran too.

You asserting that Iran will be rational and never use their nukes doesn't make it so. Nations never commit suicide? Hitler invaded Russia against the will of his entire General Staff. Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. All suicidal miscalculations at the scale of national mobilization.

ain't that rich. The most eloquent man in the world, president of israel's staunch ally can't make it to israel, so he sends in laughing boy...the court jester... obama goes to egypt and speaks, goes to turkey and speaks, goes to saudi and bows, even goes to copenhagen to beg for, of all things, the olympics, BUT he doesnt have the time to travel to israel, his staunch ally, but he SAYS he desperately wants peace...instead, he sends in the clown, WHO THEN says, basically, that iran can go nuclear, because we won't stop them, and that the US will help defend israel in a nuclear scenario... now, for one thing, this won't usher in any peaceful era in this region, and for another, the policy of containment will not work for iran..this is NOT russia crica 1960...The words obama said while in campaign mode were, "I will not allow iran to aquire nuclear weapons" ...and? really? well? Obama is rightly despised in israel for being a liar and a muslim apologist. period.

If Biden is a good friend of Israel, he should refrain from visiting Arab rulers, since he can only deliver lies upon lies. Nor is he a good friend of Israel. Why? Because if he really wants Israel's security and well-being, he should start advising them, or better forcing them to retreat from the West Bank and the Golan Heights and to give them back to their lawful owners. There is something sure and without the sightest doubt: Israel will never sustain and no-peace, no war situation for generations to come. It will dissolve itself by itself.

Well Israel (Nuke each other) can do the same. It's not a one way traffic. Mutually Self Assured Destruction. something Israel has to confront it, whether it likes it or not.

"What Beiden is saying.." Is what he said. Not the concoction you made up.

making sure we don't fall for Obama's or Biden's charm.

Its like building a dike after the surge. Best to build now. For a nuclear armed Iran will hold the West hostage. As they are now doing. That is due to Oil & Gas. The Straits of Hormuz. Far too much hype from all parties. The answer lies in diplomacy and pressure from both Russia and China. The US is an enemy of the current regime. They just laugh at US attempts. For sanctions will never work. Good day.

Israelis must realize already,Iran is a nuclear reality,and there is nothing Biden can do it to avoid that. I donàt think you israelis dares to attack Iran,an attack in Iran will bakfire,Iran will use its missiles to target Israel,and Israel has not option to obliterate Iran because if Israel use nukes on Iran,Iran will use its nukes against Israel,on the same way and quantity. Well,we can say,Petraus dares to attack Iran,then Iran will response attacking US Soldiers and interest on all middleast,and by the way they try to target US americans interest in the rest of the world.....if americans insist,then iranian will close the straig Ormuz and attack Israel.....americans cannot attack with nuclear weapons Iran to win,because Iran will response with nuclear weapons on Israel and other countries and american interest if they can..... to resume,a nuclear Iran is unnavoidable already,only Bush had the chance to stop iranian nuclear program,today is too late.

He`s such a good boy, isn`t he ? Yes he is, and just listen to what he`s learned to say: "A nuclear-armed Iran would constitute a threat not only to Israel - it would also constitute a threat to the United States."

May I remind our frothing at the mouth critics of Israel that should Iran use their nuclear arsenal than they should understand Nuclear fallout carries with the wind. Secondly who says that some of the warheads won't land by mistake in One of neighbors yards? Hopefully Iran will use their nuclear arsenal and we will not have any excuse to do our part to "Global Warming"

It seems that US has accepted the fact of Iranian nukes. Unfortunately Palestinians understand that their patrons will soon have the nuke and hope Iran will come to their assistance and destroy Israel. That's why total stall on peace talks. What they don't understand is that in a nuclear confrontation they will be the greatest loosers. Israel understands the situation quite well and is now trying to convince Iran that Israel will not use military force to get Iran of guard. ISRAEL WILL USE THE MILITARY OPTION. The leaders of Iran are twelfers which means that the world must be destroyed for the twelfth imam to come back to rule the world from Babylon.

America is too weak to make peace and the American politicians are dominated by the Israel lobby. This means that Israel will be able to carry on with even the most outrageous plans. Lately though, we have seen a series of blunders from Israel. In 2000, Hizbollah completed the process of ending the Israeli occupation of Lebanon. This is the first time that Israel was forced out of occupied territory by local militia. In the 2006 war, Hizbollah stood its ground with the IDF and denied Israel from accomplishing any of its several objectives. In the Gaza op, the Israeli slaughter of civilians was exposed, outraging world opinion. It has become obvious that the Israeli leadership is not so smart and relies heavily on America for political, financial, and military support. In the end, as Israeli policy and actions becomes even more stupid and provocative, even America will not be able to support the result.

this calls for a state visit to lake geneva this summer .

Under a 1995 Advisory Opinion the ICJ has said that possession by a State of nuclear weapons is not a violation of customary int law. But it IS a violation of treaty law if the State is a non nuclear weapons State party to the NPT eg Iran. By ratifying the NPT and Safeguards Agreement, Iran has received all kinds of nuclear materials, technology and other benefits from the IAEA in return for its express agreement not to use these for military purposes, and to submit to a stringent inspections regime. Israel is under no such legal constraint. It is not a party to the NPT and has received no benefits from the IAEA. Nor is there any legal obligation on Israel to join the NPT or indeed on any State to become a party to any treaty. Iran, on the other hand, has acted illegally since at least 2006 by violating its treaty obligations regarding inspections and verification under its 1974 NPT Safeguards Agreement with the IAEA (IAEA Board of Governors Res. GOV/2006/14 (4 Feb. 2006)).

-ests in mind ? He has delayed his "sanctions" at least 3 times already ,not exactly an indication of somebody trying to prevent Iranians from producing nukes.

Maybe a visit to the PA would prove useful, but then again, why, when he can read JP and watchFox

That's a Freudian slip. What Beiden is saying, is that the US will (1) allow Iran to become a nuclear power, and (2) only DEFEND Israel from an Iranian nuclear attack in progress. That means only, say, half the Iranian nukes wull get through to Israeli cities. If all Obama's people have to offer Israel is talk, they should at least have talk that promises something. Face it, Israel -- My country plans on doing nothing to help you. Either you help yourself, or we will make fancy memorials for your 6 million dead -- the NEW dead, not the WWII ones.

Everybody, Israelis, Americans, Iranians, everybody knows that Iran will never use these weapons. Iranians are not stupid, they would not do something that is guaranteed to bring an instant death to their whole nation by messing around with the nukes. They just want to prooduce the nukes, that is it, for psychological satisfaction more than anything else. Iranian nukes, even theoretically constitute a threat to the Americans, their missile range is not enough. So Biden is lying. American policy is that if you lie day and night over and over again, you make other people believe in your nonsense at the end. As simple as that.

"Barak just signed off on another 112 apartments, Joe. Were you aware of that before - or only after - Barak jabbed his thumb in your eye?" Blithering fool. You were whining for weeks about the freeze being "partial" and not 100%. It dawned on you then. Why isn't it dawning on you now?

It is a simple request. What does Joe Biden mean by a 'nuclear Iran'. Because Iran is allowed to have technology to produce electricity using nuclear power. It is a legitimate question, as it would be a legitimate question if Israel wanted a nuclear power capability then Israel should be required to sign the NPT. The fact of the matter is Iran under the NPT is allowed to have nuclear power, and under the NPT Iran is allowed to enrich Uranium to provide fuel for those nuclear reactors. It is also a fact that Israel cannot stop iran having nuclear power militarily, and therefore it is again important that Joe Biden defines what he means by a nuclear Iran. Because whether or not there is another war in the middle east is predicated by that definition. You might not like it but Iran is entitled under International Law to have a nuclear power programme.

The F22 production line has been closed down. The F22 is no longer in production. Israel will have to wait until they recieve (if they recieve) the F35.

...Joe Biden explains what he means by the term 'Nuclear Iran'." (Chris Linthwaite) TOUGH!! But what is this noise of laughing, shouts and shrieks all around us?

The F35 project is in limbo with failing production deadlines. If Joe Biden wants to redouble efforts to guarantee Israel's qualitative edge, green-lighting the sale of F22 to Israel would be more than symbolic.

The Iranian strategy is to temporize and lie while working feverishly behind the scenes to increase its enrichment capacity. Even the IAEA has said that Iran is cheating on its disclosure obligations under the Safeguards Agreement. And still no new sanctions. Wake up Joe and wake your President up while you're at it. The Iranians have made fools out of you both - and that's as big a threat to the security of the US and the region as the prosepct of a future Iranian bomb.

....performance of the Obama administration (Biden, Clinton, Emanuel etc....) one almost wishes Bush and Cheney back in the White House. At least those guys had some guts and convic- tions (though unfortunately the very wrong ones!).... ....but still, better than no convictions and backbone at all.

Israel and Israel firsters believe that Iran should have zero access to nuclear technology. I think it is important that Joe Biden explains what he means by the term 'Nuclear Iran'.

Biden: "The construction freeze was a unilateral decision by the Israeli government, and it is not part of an agreement with the American administration or with the Palestinians," Barak just signed off on another 112 apartments, Joe. Were you aware of that before - or only after - Barak jabbed his thumb in your eye? Biden: "It is not everything that we wanted, but it is an important action that has significant impact on the ground," Barak has just OK'ed another 112 "significant impacts on the ground", Joe. Were you aware of that decision before - or only after - Little Ehud made a fool of you?