Are IDF dogs trained to pounce all who say 'God is great' in Arabic?
Following expose, MK Ahmed Tibi tells Knesset plenum: 'I say here Allah Hu Akbar. Any dogs here to attack me?'
By Jonathan Lis Tags: Israeli Arab Israel news IDFThe Israel Defense Forces has not denied allegations that it trains its canines to attack anybody heard saying Allah Hu Akbar, Arabic for 'God is great.'
Israeli Arab MK Ahmed Tibi on Monday told the Knesset plenum that at a canine unit ceremony held the day before, parents of the soldiers witnessed demonstrations proving these allegations.
"IDF dogs are trained to pounce and attack any Arab who shouts Allah Hu Akbar, as a Pavlovian reaction," said Tibi. "So here I say: Allah Hu Akbar. Are there any dogs here to attack me?"
Speculations of such practice were exposed first by Israel Radio's military correspondent, Carmela Menashe.
Responding to the allegations, the IDF said in a statement: "One of the canine unit's many capabilities is to train the dogs at locating the enemy when dressed both in uniform and as civilian. This is an ability that has proven itself in many cases."
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MK Ahmed Tibi |
| Photo by: (Emil Salman) |
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what ashame i think all jesish attempt to wipe away is islam will be beaten and one day we will wipe sth called israel
God Bless You!!! If you believe it...
what are you talking about? "with your perspective, you had your caricaturist murdered because of his beliefs and your attitude" you write. He wasn't murdered, and the police just foiled an attempt at murder. Further, the fact that you say that the freedom of the press in Denmark is similar to the freedom of the press in Iran is rather odd. Not surprisingly, your english is quite poor as well.
Let's see some real proof!! This is so silly.
#48,You write;"Between Stockholm and Tehran, Israel of 2009 is much closer to Tehran". Your error is that; Between Israel and Tehran, Copenhagen of 2010 looks much closer to Tehran. With your perspective, you had your caricaturist murdered because of his beliefs and your attitude -. Continue on this and maybe the IDF could sell you some dogs for your protection and well being. You might even end up as an Islamic republic.
Does that mean that the dogs are trained to cause all those who say "Allah Hu Akbar" to pounce or does it mean that the dogs are trained to pounce on such persons?
The security dogs are trained to defend against terrorist attacks, ie, threats to civilians or protect military sites and personel. The problem is not the dogs training or use of the alleged command words, but the fact that such a statement is used as a war cry by Arab attackers and terorrists. Tibi should be more ashamed of that fact then the idea that IDF dogs may be trained to react to such language.
Is it right to persecute people for praising GOD, no matter the language it's done in. The ALLMIGHTY is the ALL MIGHTY no matter what religion or language.
dogs obey one language in training !!! dogs attack only if the command is given and the scent is that of a stranger !!
Silver says it all. When religion takes over, reason is lost. Hubris and arrogance supplant everything else, as the Zealots "KNOW" what is right, etc. The rest is worthless blather.
I'd assume there are security dogs in the Kenneset. If what he says is true, why is he still here? he did shout Allah Akbar in the Kennesset and if the dogs are as he says trained to Pounce then Pounce on that annoyance of a man. Politics might be a charade but lets atleast play for the important pieces not the consipiracy theories, Tibi, you are starting to sound as reasonable as the Aftonbladet. Tibi, you need to sound reasonable as you represent a large portion of Israelis, even if they didn't vote for you, you represent Israeli Arabs by virtue of your own identity, so give them something to be proud of not embarrassed.
There should be zero tolerence for this kind of racism in the IDF. What if the shoe was on the other foot? Those soldiers must be reprimanded and be made to attend anti-racism workshops and hold workshops them afterwards. Morally outraged, Dutch
Many news websites published this as flash/top news.Do not blame others.Harmfull search and new.
by the time the suicide bomber says those words, and the dog reacts, it'd be curtains for the dog as well. If I'd ever hear someone scream AHA I'd run in the opposite direction. So are we to understand that Israeli dogs are suicidal as well? But I have heard that when they hear Shema Yisroel (specifically with that pronunciation) they will kill immediately...
All the "Sacred Texts" were written by people with agendas and an ax to grind. They can be interpreted to justify any action, anywhere ,anytime. Clerics and wannabes, and their adherents and followers must be understood to be criminally insane before any progress in Human Affairs occurs Who said that the Taliban are restricted to Islam? They are embedded in all religions and, eventually, will take control, be it Islam, Judaism or Christianity.
Between Stockholm and Tehran, Israel of 2009 is much closer to Tehran. From birth to death, from circumcision to funeral, from the establishment of the state to the establishment of the last of the illegal settlements and outposts in the West Bank - Israel is operating in the shadow of the commandments of religion. Israelis should be honest with themselves and admit it already: The country is too religious and its going to be like Saudi Arabia ------The army dominates Israel in a way not seen in western democracies. If the IDF goes religious then so does Israel and it`s goodbye to any idea of Israel being a western democrcacy. If Ashkenazi doesn`t think the IDF can be trusted to confront the settlers, then Israel`s got real problems. No progress on finding the mosque-burners? What about those settlers who spray-painted stars of David on muslim graves? Were they ever caught?
I think it's a wonderful idea, and would like to train him in a similar manner. Who trains IDF dogs in this wonderful project?
... at the very moment that the fire-cracker or the bomb are inevitably consumating themselves, the perpetrator generally praises Allah loud-and-clear, so that his reception in the nether- world will be assured...
Kudos to her for reporting it. You can hardly complain about Tibi for raising it subsequently in the Knesset. It's a disgrace no-one else did.
Must have given the trainer a real buzz and is likely to give the Prime Minister of Israel another reason for that nagging headache he must have emptied several Acamol bottles over lately.
More subtly nauseating than usual, though. I can't quite put my finger on it. I suppose what's really sickening -- also as usual -- isn't the story itself, but that there are so many so warped by mindless bigotry that they actually like it. I suppose I COULD see this as a necessary measure -- but it's a bit much that people LIKE it. That really is the worst part. These are the people who support Israel, and that fact alone is damning. I use the term 'people' loosely of course.
That training might save many lives since this is the customary opening phrase that Islamic terrorist use before making an attack or suicide bombing.
WOW ! What an article !
Arab adore far-fetched, unprovable claims about Jews, probably because the Ko'ran says that Jews are deceitful plotters. They believe the Six-Day-War was lost through some as-yet-undiscovered Jewish 'trick', that Israel poisoned AIDS-infested Arafat, that Jews brought down the twin towers and that they steal live organs from dead bodies. Tibi simply knows how to keep his audience happy..
the terrorists are not as stupid as tibi seems to claim they are. they do not stand arround screaming before attacking. they do whatever they can to hide. they even hide among their civilians.
Whether Muslims detest dogs or not as unclean animals may be debateable. However there was a case in Toronto several years ago where Muslim taxi drivers lost their licenses because they refused to allow blind passengers with Seeing eye dogs into the cabs. These dogs are allowed in restaurants in most places. Dogs respond to owners commands and to actions by others. Their command of any language is based more on tone, than on actual words unless they have been trained. I don't think, based on over 60 years of owning dogs, that they would respond to someone not their owner uttering words that were not actual commands.
... both the dog and the terrorist would have been blown to smithereens... ... these dogs should be trained to mind-read before the event... ... the dogs would need to be bilingual...
Too bad the US Military Guards didn't train their dogs to do that before the Ft. Hood massacre.
Attack= "Allah hu akbar" and to call the dog back Stop="Ya ebn el kalb"
"Arabs destest dogs ,unclean animals ..." Hey Mr, your ignorance is showing! Not all Arabs are Muslim! Chrisitan Arabs have no problem with dogs and many of us have them in our homes. Also, Muslims don't detest dogs because many shepards and farmers rely on dogs. No one can argue with the fact that dogs, just like all animals, are unclean as we humans think of cleanliness! Why do Jews, and Muslims, "detest" pigs? Because they are FILTHY little animals. Can you argue with this? Amazing how some westerners care more about dogs than they do about humans! We've seen how they abuse dogs by training them to be vicious animals that sometimes turn against their owner or his children! Nat-zi soldiers knew how to use dogs against concentration camp inmates. American soldiers used them in Abu-Graib & at Guantanamo! Is this why God created dogs? Would YOU want these dogs to be used against you or your children?
Good one Paul. Dogs in a combat situation are a great assets.
And I seem to remember he is a doctor too which makes his statement even more provocative as he should know better.
But none of the dogs in the Knesset have been trained.
Arabs don't just walk around saying "Allahu akbar" all day, but they have been known to scream it when they are carrying out a terrorist attack.
Dogs attack on command based on signs of aggression. If I were to shout I LOVE VANILLA ICREAM loudly or agressivley and someone sent a dog to attack in my direction, it will work just as well. The froth of their Arab hate gets to their frontal lobes.
I don't see the problem here. most muslims don't go about shouting "alla u akbar" in the street. The ones that do usually do it before they blow themselves up in a coffee shop or bus stop. So why not train the dogs to respond to these words? sounds like a very good idea to me.
These K9's are more useful that this Ahmed Tibi parasite,who lives on Israeli tax payers largesse. This Ahmed Tibi should be kicked out of Israel.
vik wrote "US should do the same also train dogs to attack when someone yells death to america. Both phrases are only said in hate." Police in the south used to train dogs to attack dark skinned people. Right now America is struggling to hold on to basic civil liberties. Thanks though. As the TSA and Homeland Security gradually evolve into a gestapo we will take that idea into consideration.
a google search, "God is great" then takbir- wikipedia, it seems the Islamic world also uses the term while beheading people and while killing in the hundreds, or thousands as in 9/11. One responce said this was a war cry theyr right it is used as a war cry, according to the encylopedia. You can be sure of one thing, either you are following the commands of the one and only true God or you are following the lies of a lier.
otherwise you would know that dogs of either sex sniff humans of either sex with equal abandon. But I am wondering if your concern is founded in a fact you would like to discuss?
Israeli super dogs are trained to wait until the "suspect" has finished his sentence. That way they can differentiate between "god is great" and "god save me" and "god help me" and "god I've had enough, just put me out of my misery". Go, Israel, go
allahu akbar does not mean "allah is a mouse"It should not be translated into "elokim gadol" because that means'I don't have a clue' and 'whatever happens is not my fault.' It is the trditional moslim warcry and dogs don't have to be trained to react fiercely to body language of fear and agression and to the smell of adrenaline. That's why saying "good doggy" actually works!Ahmad Tibi's allegations are pure fantasy.
If Ahmed Tibi would spare us some of this rightoeous indignation and actually be an asset to Israel by standing up against terrorists who threaten Israelis, then I would be much more sympathetic to his concerns. In the meantime, while Arabs outside of Israel and maybe some within are planning to kill Jews simply because they are Jewish I would certainly not pay ay attention to his rants.
I used to employ a young man who had been a Air Police dog handler in the USAF. He taught his dog to go into attack mode when ever it saw an officer, but not an enlisted man. . . Good joke.
Well done, you seem to be full of good ideas. You are also correct,many things are said by those with hate in their heart...vik
it is a free country after all
This was just a slur. For inexplicable reasons the "Left" turns a blind eye to racism by Arabs towards Jews.
This will rank with Plan Dalet, the stab in the back of 1848 and the organ harvesting in Cast Lead as one of the all time greatest.
IDF dogs & tibbi, Hard to believe that story,but if true, the trainers are geniuses ! WOW !
Such people don't belong in the M iddle East and the IDF.
Why? Do homosexuals and bisexuals shout "Allahu Ackbar" before they blow themselves up? Were it not for a few obviousl flaws, training dogs that way would be quite a good idea. But the idea is too flawed, so the allegation seems a bit far fetched.
Sully, please provide us with the definition of YAKAM. What language ??? Is it just you trying to be cool, showing is your knowledge of Hebrew. Don't worry, you can't use fake Hebrew words as a fig leaf for your true feelings.
"is so costly and failure prone -a dog would have detect explosives hidden in underpants much more reliably and cheaper than a scanning machine ,but arabs would raise a hell if they were being sniffed at airports." You sir, are a moron. I know many arabs with dogs. You must be in some backwoods in Sweden or else you wouldnt say such an idiotic thing. Stick with your Zio propaganda you seem to know it a lot better than you know arabs.
dogs react to a strange language !! dogs react to a different smell ,that is one of the reasons they attack strangers !
I really don't know if there are dogs at the Knesset (though for sure there are plenty of snakes). But talking about trained animals, here in the forums there are many parrots trained to yell: "That's anti-semitic! That's anti-semitic!"
Its license to operate should be revoked....
It won't be long before these dogs will be attacking homosexuals and bisexuals.
As long as innocent civilians are kept same.
US should do the same also train dogs to attack when someone yells death to america. Both phrases are only said in hate. Hmm how about using Tibi as a test subject. Let him say it and see what happens.
interesting:)) there aren't any dogs in knesset.
Hashem yakam damo?
He only sings again the old arab hit: "Al Yahudna kalabna", Jews are our dogs. The problem n°1 of dogs are of course: fleas and lice.
is so costly and failure prone -a dog would have detect explosives hidden in underpants much more reliably and cheaper than a scanning machine ,but arabs would raise a hell if they were being sniffed at airports.