Arab channels to broadcast show depicting IDF soldiers as murderers
Turkish produced show caused diplomatic uproar with image of soldier shooting smiling little girl.
By Haaretz Service Tags: Israel newsArab television channels are planning to air the controversial Turkish Television show that depicts Israel Defense Force soldiers shooting innocent Palestinians, the French news agency AFP reported on Saturday.
The drama, which includes images of Israeli soldiers shooting a smiling young girl in the chest, steamrolling a tank through a crowded street and lining up a firing squad to shoot at a group of Palestinians, sparked outrage in Israel.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said of the show when it aired in October of 2009, "We are disappointed by the incitement on Turkish television and we are not very happy by the trends we are seeing in Turkey of late."
The art director at the Turkish production agency responsible for creating the show said that it has been sold to both a Saudi Arabian channel as well as a Dubai based channel.
The channels are reportedly planning on airing the series, officially called "Separation: Palestine in Love and In War" as soon as Saturday.
Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman also expressed anger over the original airing of the show, saying "broadcasting this series is incitement of the most severe kind, and it is done under government sponsorship."
Diplomatic relations between Israel and Turkey have deteriorated since Israel's offensive in the Gaza Strip in late 2008, which Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his cabinet in Ankara adamantly criticized.
"Israel should give some thought to what it would be like to lose a friend like Turkey in the future," Erdogan told Euronews in February of this year.
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The funny thing about this is that Muslims are 'happy' to kill young girls. When the suicide bombers kill people they don't care whether they are babies, children, women, or even other Muslims.
... quite true Mark, but let us not forget the reaction [of certain govenments, Turkey included] when a particluar cartoon was published in Denmark and of Fatwas issued by Islamic Governments against authors and politicians. My, my - do you really think the Tuskish government doesn't indulge in censorship? Do you wish to tell me the Turkish government condones freedom of speech (or is it only on certain issues)? Credit yourelf with more intelligence, please.
Dare you to help us help us stamp out antisemitism. What's your problem with peniless Jewish immigrants pulling themselves up by their shoelaces instead of demanding handouts? Or Are you saying Arabs cant afford to create their own Hollywood just like say Indians have done.?
each other while the self deluding fellow travellers pretend there is only one problem on this planet and anything Arabs do is a direct result of that. A very incomplete list would be:- Lybia in Chad Yemen proxy war between Egypt and Saudis. Daddy Assad in Hama At least a million Arabs who have killed each other in Algeria,so far. Brother Saddaam and the Kurds The ongoing suporession and occupation of Kurdistan The almost daily suicide bombings in the Moslem world. You can search the net for the casualties, its in the millions. PS At leat on 2 occasions Arabs used WMD's in these conflicts.
Does the Israeli government censor the Y-Net or Haaretz for content unrelated to security? Does the US censor Hollywood? The production was private. Turkey has as much say as the French government or the Israeli government does. NONE
"The drama, which includes images of Israeli soldiers shooting a smiling young girl in the chest, steamrolling a tank through a crowded street and lining up a firing squad to shoot at a group of Palestinians, sparked outrage in Israel." Just wondering, how can the above scenes be seen as antisemitic or whatever, {are these scenes being staged by non IDF) or are they just showing what amounts to un-censored news footage ?
How is this going to enhance Palestinian/Israeli dialogue? Usually governments cannot interfere with TV programs, but in Saudi Arabia and Dubai they can. It might be helpful if Mrs. Clinton made a serious telephone call to the Saudi Foreign Minister and his Dubai counterpart.
It is not as if nobody ever heard of TV and Movie production in Israel. Make your own competing story and show just how humane your soldiers are. Show how they saved Gazan children from the Hamas-monster and slew the Gorgon of Islam using the Medusa of kindness. Or hire an American story teller. Some Jews in the US make pretty good movies. And ours know some pretty good Arabic language capable actors, too.
As long as there is production of false, antisemitic and hatred of Israel propaganda there will be no peace. This is the Arab mind spreading hatred of Jews throughout the world. Unfortunately, the ignorant believe in this falsity.
"Critisized the settlement only yesterday and the day before.Treated Mr Peres in Davos with utmost hate and disrespect. Please list him as first degree arrogant and antisamite" So what if he criticized the blatantly illegal settlements? People all over the world have rightly been doing so, and this is no different. And let's not forget how your thug for an FM treated the Turkish Ambassador with the upmost contempt.
An "Arab trust-building move." "Israel is willing to carry out trust-building moves in the West Bank in order to facilitate peace talks with the Palestinian Authority, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly told U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday"
I love it, the IDF kills a 16 year old kid when some Palestinians throw rocks. And you whine about some turkish TV series. Get real, you have lost your innocence long ago and should stop trying to be the victim. I eally hope our government here will finally wake up and stop sending you my tax dollars, so that you can build more settlements and with this create new terrorists. I use to be great admirer of Israel, sitting at the radio every day during the six day war, hoping you would pull it off and being glad you pulled it off. But today, I am only sad and disgusted to see what happened with Israel.
Great country by the way...takes in people from throughout the world and manages harmonious relationships between the cultures.
...and we don't have a say in the matter. But I see no reason why Turkey shouldn't be. They are strategically situated; are a large market for EU goods; produce a wide variety of good quality products; are an EU porthole to the Muslim world. Having Turkey in the EU would create opportunities for the EU. Take the Israeli situation for contrast. Selling the product of stolen land brings the EU into disrepute.
These Turks are bad boys: IDF soldiers are beautiful angels.
The all Turkish cast, depicting both Palestinians and IDF soldiers will actually cause an uproar in both Saudi Arabia and Dubai. It may well backfire on those governments. For the masses will take to the streets. Denouncing their governments close relationship with the USA, bringing another smile to Mr.Bin Laden. Who spends more time chuckling, over those silly infidels, fighting a losing battle in holy Muslim poppy-fields. Then, we must not forget the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians in these countries that are considered second class citizens. Pathetic behavior for responsible governments. I wonder whether these sheiks, emirs or kings and princes realize that.? I guess not. Israel and Turkey have had so many positive and thoughtful relations, that are now in tatters, mainly due to thoughtless political grandstanding by both governments. Have a nice evening in beautiful Istanbul.
the real life coverage of life and death in gaza and west bank is much more impactful, and the world starts to react.
Bet that Iranian nuclear technology offer to the Saudis is looking a bit more attractive today!
Israel should produce and broadcast an historical drama about the Armenian genocide. Turkey would be less sanguine about that, I would think.
it*s a Hollywood series. Doesn*t it show the Muslims in a good light? Well, it does. PS.: contains NO violence whatsoever!
MR. ERDOGAN SAYS THE TRUTH!!!!!
... have the Turkish government forgotten what they did to the Armenians?
...US Jewsih producers. Try reading this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Empire_Of_Their_Own. Dare you to help us help us stamp out antisemitism.
Every cloud has a silver lining. This drift of Turkey into a more extremist Islamic direction means that it will be harder for Turkey to get into the European Union. We don't want them in.
the more israel stands by his policies of shooting with the excuse of self defence, the more palestinians get killed and more and more will the idf be depicted as murderers.
http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1157673.html
why is everybody so upset (on our side)??? the picture shows a turkey soldier in (stolen)idf uniform shooting a armanian little girl! is there anything new there?
at the least i would expect they show us as we truly are...kind...honest and caring.....why do they deliberately lie and show us as murdering lying scum??
IDF soldiers will drink Palestinian children's blood. Now that's quality Arab television!
Is this surprising? And Turkey still wishes to act as a mediator!! Let Erdogan sit at home and watch his anti-semitic trash on Turkish television. He won't be doing any mediating for a long time to come.
okay turkey fox and antisamite.then ????
whats your point
Whatever happens in the territories does not mean one can just show lies on a tv show and portray it as the truth. Israeli soldiers never shot girls point blank for instance. Those who claim this series is not incitement and anti semitic should think about it whether or not the Turks have not been committing genocide against the Armenians or better been saint in the brutal fight against the Turks. Whether or not the you like Israeli Jews it remains a fact that in the Arab and Muslim world much worse things happen and these are totally ignored by those supporting the showing of this anti semitic series. Moreover, I as an Israeli Jew do not feel any need to compromise with people who focus only on our negatives and ignore their own faults. Arabs should first clean up their own house like celebrating the Sudanese president who is a mass murderer, or Assad who murdered Hariri senior or the Iranian regime for that matter.
Turkey Television broadcasts have sold the docomentry cuz the arabs offered million dollars...they believe they can make money but the idea that they are selling the documenrty is very dangerous, cuz the arabs will use this against Israel as a propoganda machine, this could damage the Turkey-Israeli relationship....I believe that we should stop this kind of business...
Worries israel tremendously to the point of panic.
Lawrence of Arabia was not unsympathetic to the Arabs. Of course it still portrayed the Arabs as backwards, brutal, and boorish. But if you made a movie about Arabs riding around on camels in business suits, delivering medicines to poor people, and working on irrigation projects rather than shooting up the Infidels, how would your brain be able to process it, whether you were Muslim or Infidel? I am 100% sure that no IDF soldier in real life ever did anything like that scene with the young girl.
...more fuel for the fire... something happpened down there in Gaza and it will eventually all come out..
Hollywood portrays arabs as they are,sam!
If even the Turkish Media imitates Hamas propaganda, hard to argue with somebody that claims; all Arabs and moslems are liars.
show American and British soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan,along with all the other countries who are fighting this so called war against terrorism. Arab and Turkish propaganda shows Israel defending itself against terror as murderers. If I was part of the quartet,I would not push Israel into a corner,the consequences might be devestating for everyone concerned.
These people we trust as friends they are cunning like FOX. Change their name to FOX from Turkey. The turks "pretend" they are allies of Israel and the U.S.In fact, they hate us worse than some arabs.We better know that.They are friends that stab you in the back.They produce all these movies and documentaries full of lies.Thats the true Turkey.They hate jews at a rate of 90% of their population.We should boycott them.Mr.Ergodan is antisamite of first degree.We should not trust his mediator role with Syria. Every day almost he shows his antisamite, antijewish colors. Critisized the settlement only yesterday and the day before.Treated Mr Peres in Davos with utmost hate and disrespect.Please list him as first degree arrogant and antisamite
Why you are so hypocrite (western and jews)? when a film maker (sometimes jews) invent all kind of lies in their Hollywood movies to show arab as an evil specie, so for all of you it’s ok and that not considered as ani-arabs propaganda it’s just freedom of speech. However when muslims make a movie expose the struggle of a nation is quickly considered as anti-semitic and evil.
Muslims will never except Jews and this is just the case in point. This descrimination of a human race is barbaric in theses days and times and you would think that obama the niger (noe called colored) would see this clearly as his people were in the same boat but were freed. To all the raceses that were descriminated before should come to israels aid
I can't wait to hear Obama, Hillary, Biden, Mitchell and Ban when they hold their news conferences to denounce the incitements. I'm sure they'll come down on the leaders of those countries as they did with Bibi. Is it time for my medications already?
The Israelis might not be perfect, and they may be making mistakes in defending themselves against the ocean of hostility that surrounds them, but the Turks are not in any way qualified to be making films about Israeli 'injustice'. If the Turks want to make films about injustice, how about making a film of the violence being inflicted on defenseless minorities living on occupied land controlled by the Turks. How about a film regarding the Christians who had their throats cut in Malatya a couple of years ago for handing out bibles - the religion of the EU. Oh, how about a film about the continued violent occupation of Cyprus. Hypocrites.
I can't believe how pathetic Israel and its fans are over this series. Grow up. The world is full of unflattering film and TV portrayals. The villain in Hollywood movies alsways used to have an English accent, now they're either Russians or Arabs. Do we all whine and threaten to cut off diplomatic ties with America?
Talk about a double standard. Arabs and Muslims are 99.999% the adversary in shows/movies with Arab and/or Muslim characters in them. You can't turn around without some show and/or movie depicting them all as bloodthirsty savages. Now watch, the usual people will say, "But they are! All they do is murder and blow stuff up!" The usual racist generalizations, in other words. Why not group them all together, in the minds of bigots and racists. Using that logic, then someone can turn around and say that all Israelis are not interested in peace, but rather more Palestinian land, Palestinian blood, and to break their spirits. How would the apologists/racists feel about such a generalization? You want to condemn this show? Fine, as it should be. But do not do so without condemning the blatantly racist double standard employed in shows/movies throughout the Western world.
The publishing of lies with the intent to create hatred against a people is usually followed by direct incitement to genocide. As this is the history of the jewish people, known by those publishing the material, what else could be the motive of the turkish state that condones it and the arabs/muslims who distribute it. Isn't there a case in the world court? If the world court does not take action Israel must find ways to take its" ow action as with Eichmann and the six day war. A good start, with many advantages, is to seize the saudi oil fields which have funded terror and anti semitic violence for decades. It will dramatically reduce terror funding, it will give Israel leverage over global oil supply, it will give energy independence, to dissuade enemies and their supporters, it will lessen effect of inevitable global sanctions, it will give massive capital for military technological developments, it will wean Israel of US aid, it will provide land for relocating 5th column.
With this attitude Turkey, forget it!
why so afraid to face the truth?
i have yet to see a hollywood movie which shows arabs/muslims in a good light. talk about incitement? how funny that is.
No longer an honest mediator.
I believe in Karma all people and countries that lie will get it back. BAN ISRAELIS FROM GOING TO THese LYING COUNTRIES.
I do'nt why Israel is angrey about the film is showing the truth about what goes on in the occupied land ,it's time the world start to witness the reality rather than the lies that the Israelie media coupled with the American ones depicate .Sooner or later the truth would come out and the people of Israel will hold their heads down with shame.
it is TV. how many times are arabs portrayed as heartless killers on anerican TV, and try to tell me they don't show "24" in israel. whine, whine, whine.
they feed their crowds with antisemitic propaganda, they accuse the Jews of creating chaos and they are claiming simultaneously that they want peace and that they want the destuction of Israel/Jews.
going to be invited by Danny (the naughty chair) Ayalon to explain why in a free market Turkey is producing television programmes that people want to watch all around the world? It's a television programme not a declaration of war. Israel could make a series about the Armenian Genocide if they want to upset Turkey. Having seen the scene described it makes for a good comedy.
The PA acts all righteous, Israeli could put out quite a few movies on the stories and the chaos pain and murder of those suicide bombers. Or those two men murdered so cruelly for taking the wrong turn , with glee. All I can say, I am glad we don't. There will be no peace as long as one always thinks of the other as murderer and the other things of the murderer shahid and glory. Two very opposing cultures. Murder of Arabs and Jews , of anyone, is a crime and terrible.
Turkey is pathetic... They might as well create a show based on the protocols of the elders of zion. As some one who has been in Gaza, the fact is that most of the children shot have guns on them. This makes them combatants. Plain And simple
Turkey is pathetic... They might as well create a show based on the protocols of the elders of zion. As some one who has been in Gaza, the fact is that most of the children shot have guns on them. This makes them combatants. Plain And simple
Turkey is pathetic... They might as well create a show based on the protocols of the elders of zion. As some one who has been in Gaza, the fact is that most of the children shot have guns on them. This makes them combatants. Plain And simple
I admit this current film is particularly vile and libelous but nothing new to see here as this kind of hatred has been occurring for decades in Muslim nations worldwide.
Turkey is pathetic... They might as well create a show based on the protocols of the elders of zion. As some one who has been in Gaza, the fact is that most of the children shot have guns on them. This makes them combatants. Plain And simple
The Turks being so concerned about injustices should have spent their money creating films much closer to reality and much closer to subjects that are related to them; for example, how about a film about the violent suppression of the Kurds, or a film about three Christians in Malatya who had their throats cut because they were handing out bibles (the religion of the EU that Turkey has applied to join). Or how about the even more violent invasion of Cyprus and the subsequent cleansing of half the population through rape and murder on an industrial scale. Does this ring a bell? How about a film about the living standards of Turkey, where over half the population lives in poverty, yet they have money to organize demonstrations against Israel and produce pathetic racist films. It is far easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than the Turks to join the EU, or any part of the civilized world for that matter. Hypocrites.
There is a regrettable demonization of Israel going on and not just in Muslim countries. It is spreading all over the world. This movement is picking momentum with the irresponsible politics of the Netanyahu government. The announcement of new constructions in Eat Jerusalem, the humiliation of Joe Biden, Lieberman's stubborn response to the quartet announcement yesterday and the new bashing of Gaza are only pouring oil on fire. It is time the Israeli people see the light, kick this disastrous government out and put pressure on their politicians to resume the peace talks a.s.a.p. Give the Palestinians a state and your image will improve.
`nuff said