Arab bloc drops plan to seek UN censure of IDF actions in Gaza

This from UNSC 1435 (9/24/2002): Condemning all terrorist attacks against any civilians, including the terrorist bombings in Israel on 18 and 19 September 2002 and in a Palestinian school in Hebron on 17 September 2002, If it weren't for the fact that UN resolutions are slow to load, due to being PDF files, I would call you an idiot for never bothering to read them.

UN has long been a forum for non democratic nations. Most of the muslims nations without any democrasy or freedom of speech. If UMN continues supporting non democratic values UMN will soon be irrelevant. One good idea would be a change in the policy for refugees. The islamic protest aginst freedom of speech showed that the cultural difference between the West and Islam is greater than antissipated. UMN should devide refugees according to their culture. If muslim refugees were directed to muslim countries and Christian to the West, the world would soon get the true picture of Islam.

Perhaps israel ought to begin to invite the w. papuans and the southern sudanese to form exile governments in israel. Being one of the few nations that has been able to take its land back from the Islamists, it would seem only proper to take on the cause of those who have not been able to, but are desperately trying. This would shed some new light on the jewish fight to keep itself from being overtaken by the islamic and arab agendas.

before leaving gaza we had kasaams, maybe 2 or 3 a day..but now after leaving--up to 8 a day and not to mention the first KETUSHA ROCKET. SMOKE ANOTHER FAT ONE dutchie!!!!!

CHRISTOPHER explains: ?IF PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS ALLOW THE TERRORISTS TO OPERATE FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, BACKYARDS, AND TOWNS, TO FIRE QASSAM ROCKETS THEN THEY ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS THE TERRORISTS THEMSELVES.? Logic would dictate Palestinians are morally superior based on Christopher?s assertion. We can say that ?if Israeli civilians allow the occupation to operate from their neighborhoods, backyards, and towns, to reinforce the occupation command centers and manpower, then they, the Israeli civilians are just as guilty as the Israeli occupational forces. Palestinians then have, according to Christopher?s logic, the right to continue with their methods of breaking away from the occupation by attacking the so called "civilians". Thanks Chris for the help!

Israeli terror started longtime before palestinian terror. But this is not the question.

The PA stands idly by while terrorists attack from Gaza. So the PA should not be surprised when the IDF responds with artillery.

Whomever has it in his power on the ground in Gaza, should do their utmost to stand by the women and children who are getting hurt, Hamas or whomever should show some responsability and respond to this escalation which affects the innocent first and foremost. With G-d's help.

Where are all those peace loving Arab Countries with zillions of dollars in oil revenues who never give any money to the UN.As matter of fact they never even help another Arab country when they have Natural problems, example how much money or help all Arab coutries sent to Pakistan??..

I agree that although HAMAS is a terrorist organization, they are infinitely more honest than the PLO, FATAH and especially that guileless ARAFAT! That said, elected or not, honest or not, they ARE a terrorist organization dedicated to the destruction of the State of Israel. I wouldn't bother asking them to acknowledge Israel's right to exist--that is a fact in itself. I would simply respond to terrorist acts and let them live with the consequences ... the inaccuracy or primitive nature of their weapons notwithstanding, they are determined to terrorize and Israel should stay determined to defend itself ... even if it's superior firepower hurts the Palestinians. Let them take it up with their elected bosses! Fair is fair! I acknowledge Hamas' comparative honesty but remind them of the courage it takes to live by the sword ... this is why they cannot go to the UN with their complaint. First, they know it would be hypocritical and second, no one will listen anymore!

No Stephen they didnt. She died tragically at the hands of her own people. Did you not read about the 20 yr old Palestinian farmer that told Islamic Jihad to stop firing from his farm? He was shot in the foot and severely beaten up for his stance. The terrorists continued shooting. Israel is allowed to defend itself. When the kassams stop, so will Israeli artillery

Your suggestion that Arab Diplomats should, " go to the UN lounge and have few drinks", is a waste of time. They do that anyway. Their Islam is usually reserved only for home and their families. From what I understand, many a brothel and watering hole would be out of business without them.

typical liberal responce, The only good quote on how to make peace is from Marcus Aurellius"I will make peace with my enemy with my sandal on his chest and my blade at his throat" take a look at how the world and humankind truly are.

The Arab bloc may finally see the truth. Hamas is not even an organization. They are fellow members of chaos , destruction and rebellion. All the diplomacy in the world has not been able to bring them into the United Nations or any other respectable body of government. If they are considered to be in a prison, they deserve much worse. Although a remnant will survive amongst them, Hamas is going down- forever. They chose war decades ago so let them reap the shrapnel they sowed in suicide, the time has come to annul their covenant with death. Remember ALL of the buses they destroyed in peace time- let nobody forget those images- print them like they were yesterday!

You have contradicted your own letter! Much like the Palestinians their own promises.

While the US and Europe are boycotting the PA, even the UN refuses to support them. A pity the Pals have gotten to such a low point. If only they accepted at Camp David (what they can only dream of now), we would have a genuine peace instead of Israeli unilateral seperation from Hamastan. Some fools (or fanatics?) just never learn...

The world appears to be getting the idea ever since the cartoon fiasco. Until now the arabs directed everything ta Israel and the US so thw orld could sit by and go tsk tsk, look at the "root cause". They've been affected by cartoons as the "root cause" of arab violence and the "arab street" Perhaps Israel won't be as isolated as in the past. Perhaps Israel is being unshackled. The pen may be mightier than the sword after all.

THe Arabs drop plan to seek help from the UN. Why??? Cou;d it be the free world saw Israel leave Gaza. Could it be the Arabs know it will not look good for them bombs are stil falling in Israel. Could it be there are still attempted suicide bombings. Could it be the free world is being threatened by an Arab nation Iran. Could it be we are hearing on tv and radio the cries for help from innocent victims of 9/11.

The Arab terrorists have to learn that They are playing with the fire when they launch their rockets at Israeli towns. They behave like poor cowards, and they ACCEPT that their own children get hurt only because of the "good publicity" Not Israel has killd the small girl she is just another victim of Hamas!!!! The IDF is doing a great job in protecting Israeli citiciens. and to all Soldiers Good luck and god bless you!

Palestinian compliants about civilian injuries from Israeli attacks reminds me of the famous joke about the man who killed his parents and then asked for the mercy of the court because he is an orphan. It seems even the morons at the UN are not falling for this old line again. I love Hamas, they put it all out for everyone to see, no Fatah double talk.

They shouldn't shelter among civilians while attacking Israel.

It was the Arabs who started wars against Israel and now the terror war. Israel has the right to retaliate.

The Security Council must take actions towards the unlawful pal terror.

Jane it was not the threat of a US veto that caused the Pals to not seek SEcurity Council intervention. It was that amajority oppose the terrorist Hamas government attacking Israel with qassam rockets. Ie is unfortunate that there are chuldren killed when their parents take them to terrorist training camps and ignore warnings to leave areas that are used to launch rockets.

In a talk at Harvard in 1968, Martin Luther King said the following: "You declare that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely anti-Zionist...And what is anti-Zionist? It is the denial to the Jewish people of a fundamental right that we justly claim for the people of Africa and freely accord all other nations of the globe. It is discrimination against the Jews, my friend, because they are Jews. In short, it is antisemitism."

On what do you base you assumption? Before Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza in a defensive war in 1967, it was plagued by incesant attacks on its citizens. Your assumption is based on ignorance, at best wishful thinking, but certainly not on reality and past history.

This is what Doris is upset about "According to the diplomat, consultations Arab representatives held with Security Council member made it clear a majority of members were leaning toward a balanced response to Israeli actions, which would make negative reference to Palestinian Qassam attacks." Apparently, she can't handle balance criticism.

just becuase the palestinains miss more, doesnt make it ok. Now take your stats and include this one....how many rockets have been fired by the arabs and how many by israel??? I garauntee That the arabs fired more. How bout this?? Who started ANY of this?? I garauntee that before any israel attack, a palestinain fired about 10 rockets

It seems the point is missed here . Do the Israelis stand idely by while the militants improve the accuracy of their rockets and perhaps hit the refineries or the nuclear reactor and create an enviormental calamity or perhaps hit a school . What their doing is tantamount to declaration of war and Israel is just reacting to it .

You know, Frances, most of the folks who post to this board are completely polarized in their positions, so it's nice when two people from opposite sides can find some common ground. You and I differ in our opinions on the greater part of the issues presented here, but there is one point you made that I agree with wholeheartedly -- Like you, I am also glad that your are near the end of this life.

Its the occupation stupid. Qassam would never exist if it was not for the occupation.

A civilized State, militarily far superior to the Pal militants, should be able and willing to respond ADEQUATELY without destroying so many innocent lives. The real numbers are in my post #48. So it's 12 eyes for 1 eye. Do we have to hate Jews to consider this unacceptable? Or do we protest simply because this IS unacceptable regardless whether Jews or any other nation did it? As long as you do not want to be morally thrown into one pot with Islamistic extremists you cannot behave worse than they do, nor justify this excessive violence.

SO THE PALESTINIAN FARMER APPROACHES A GROUP OF FIGHTERS, ALL ARMED WITH ASSAULT RIFLES, AND DRIVES THEM OFF WITH HIS BARE HANDS (?). You are blinded by your hate, Christopher.

John Bolton may possibly be my fav appointment ever. He's a tiger!

Looks like nonsensicle laughable resolutions against Israel by the UN Arab Israel'haters days are over. John Bolton getting the job done for the US and her allies!

Christopher, Poor Pals, today Gaza are under the occupation of terrorrists. Pals can not defend themselves against the terrorist. There is no law. If she or he does not give permission to operate in his backyard he would be treated as a tratior and get executed by the terrrorists. Aby

The Arabs are using some common sense I see. There is no way King George II, ruler of the United States and and intended Emperor of the World, will allow a resolution to rebuke Israel for anything. By changing course the Arabs have avoided showing just how impotent they are.

Excellent. Now the Arab Bloc can reconcentrate its efforts on promoting human rights in Arab countries.

UNR 181 stated that two States would be created in the 22% of British Mandate Palestine that wasn't already off-limits to Jews and made into Jordan. The Muslims ignored law, declared war against Israel and attacked. They are still in that State of War. UNR 242 stated that Arabs must end their war, make peace and that real borders should be negotiated. The Muslims not only ignored the law, their nations gathered and published a proclamation stating that they would do no such thing. Palestinians signed the Oslo Accords in 1993, stating they'd change their constitution and recognize Israel. 13 years later, they're still violating their agreement and calling for Israel's destruction. Palestinians signed the Road Map and have not accomplished one Phase I task, but demand that Israel immediately jump to Phase III. You and your terrorist friends consistently ignore international law and then blame Israel for your actions. You should be ashamed, but your hate occludes that feeling.

SO I GUESS THE PAL'S LOGIC IS OK THEN BASED ON YOUR LOGIC? U MUST BE YOUR LEADERS ADVISOR! THEY USE THE SAME LOGIC AS WELL TO KILL AND MAIM THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS. COLLATERAL DAMAGE ISN'T IT. IT IS FUNNY HOW IT HURTS WHEN ONE OF YOUR DIES. GET OUT OF YOUR CAVE MAN AND GIVE YOUR LIFE. SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE.

sorry to all you dinosaurs who think the Jew is still stuck in the ghetto; The Jews took a long time to learn that self defense is a right and not something we need to get the worlds approval for. Stop the quassams, stop the racist murders of Jews or we will do it ourselves. Just like a normal person. We are just like you. Hit us or threaten us and we will react. If you don't like it take your vacation in Gaza instead of Eilat. Have fun.

Funny how u are blind to see the real terrorists in suits and riding limos leading your country for ages! Your suited statesman bomb schools, hospitals, torture inncoents, rape and pillage and pose for photos in suits with other suits. I guess they are angels to you. Your side of the world is more pathetic than mine. I have never approved of killing civilians anywhere by anyone. I don't see u doing the same. Do u consider your leaders as terrorits?

Israel is under no moral or legal restraint to accept incoming missles on sovereign Israeli territory. In fact, anything less that imposing a pschology of defeat on the part those initiating the terror is immoral. It is sad that innocents are hurt by the retaliation, but that is the fault of those putting them at risk. And now finally, the UNrelevant can't muster any anti-Israel action.

Israel has every right to complain as do the Palestinians. However, the international community in the guise of the UN will have to decide whose rights supercedes who. Right now it seems the UN feel Israel's right to respond to continued qassam firing outweighs the palestinians right to be indignant about the Israeli response. Qassams stop, then so does the Israeli artilliery/projectiles. Simple enough?

Gone are the days when these kaftiya heads had their way with the UN. How they must look back on the good ol days when Arafat, pearl handled pistolas on hip , stood in front of the world body as Israel and the sane free world looked on in disbelief. How their hearts soared as leaders of the world ate out of his hand, groveled at his feet, kissed and hugged him and threw billions of hard earned tax dollars of their citizens at his feet. Gone are the days when all the UN was occupied with was cesuring Israel while millions were being slaughtered in Africa.

you seem to be up in arms about israel tryig to save its citizens lives, not suprising being you hate jews. But, for a minute, put down your rediculous bias and answer one question....should the security coucil condemn the rocket attacks? should israel let them happen? how is israel to save its citizens?

The UN has countless times tried to have measures condemning israeli's defense of its citizens, and not once, at all, ever, have they remotely tried to condemn suicide bombers. And we are supposed to believe this arab-flooded organization is any mroe sane than an arab country?? HA

IF PALESTINIAN CIVILIANS ALLOW THE TERRORISTS TO OPERATE FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, BACKYARDS, AND TOWNS, TO FIRE QASSAM ROCKETS THEN THEY ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS THE TERRORISTS THEMSELVES.

If the Palestinians had used Gaza for peace and prosperity instead of bombing Israel daily from populated areas the girl would have been fine. They DONT want peace. they DONT want a second country. Heck, they just want to kill Jews. read the Hamas Charter. Its disgusting similar to the Nazi doctrine. Why are the Palestinians above the law and why is Israel held to higher standards than the rest of the world? When will Palestinians struggle for peace and prosperity, instead of for genocide?

International community should be censuring Palestinians for bombing Israel every day. Israel has been very patient with this daily bombing. Tell, me, why are the Palestinians above the law when they bomb Israel, and Israel is not allowed to protect itself weeks after the daily bombing of Israel? NO other country on this planet would have waited as long as Isarel to strike back. It shows how moral Israel is and how little Palestinians want peace. They hide amoung civilians. Use their money to bomb Israel instead of providing food and jobs. This is black and white. Palestinians are 100% to blame for committing these war crimes.

I think the people that bombed the pizzeria and other civilian sites in Israel are now sitting on the Security Council and call themselves diplomats and statesmen. Sadly, most of the world doesn't care.

actually it was the result of the palestinians firing 440 rockets into Israel this year.

A little girl lies dead and Israel pretends it is justified. OK - well if that is justified then Israel has absolutely no right to complain when settlers get killed. End of story.

Of course they are. The US has made them so to the detriment of everyone else who deserves support......and unfortunately, I must include my own country in that. The world will be paying forever for the guilt (the Jews of Israel) of Germany's concentration camps and don't ever think the Jews of Israel and around the world are EVER going to allow the world to forget it either. It is sort of like the indigenous populations of Indians in both the US and Canada - as the old saying goes...'the only good Indian was a dead Indian - and so today in Israel eyes...the only good Palestinian is a 'dead Palestinian" So much for having 'learned' the lessons of peace, love, harmony etc from their experience. It truly saddens me when I reflect on the cruelty of man towards his fellow man. I'm glad I'm near the end of this life. Too much cruely, war, inhumanity has happened and not on country has learned anything about the concepts of "We are our brothers keepers"

It deserves censure in the same way a suicide bomber deserves censure.

Although no one (not even the arabs) believe anything tangible will come from this, it still helps cement Israel as a paraia state throughout the world...literally creating resentment and hatred...so much so, that Israelis are weiry of traveling anywhere outside Israel or the US...and if they're former IDF officers...fogetaboutit! :)

No terror attacks with Israeli casualties in Jan/Feb. In March/April 6 Israelis lost their lives. Since Jan.2006 IDF killed - during raids and by targeted assassinations - about 75 Palestinians, among them 20 minors below 18. And you call that self-defense!! Shlomo, this kind of blindness is not being understood by anyone other than Israeli extremists. In the eyes of the Civilized World the excessive force used by IDF has damaged the reputation of Israel maximally. Your country does definitely not share with us any of our core values, hence - as much as our political class may court Israel to please the Bush administration - the "ordinary" people lost all of the formerly very great sympathy for your country.

Right after the arabs get a UN censure for kicking thier minorities (race, color and religion) out of thier countries, censured for womens rights, funding terror, destruction of Jewish holy sites ect - THEN maybe we can talk about censuring Israel for responding to another countries constant shelling mkay ? Dutch just doesnt get it - and you'de think after the destruction of property by her friends caused because of a cartoon, and the murder of van goh - would help clear the situation - but guess not.

"If Israel was forced into war...then go back to the 1967 and let us see your peaceful intentions." Israel propose to give back all of the territories after the 6 Days War, the Arabs had a summit and the results were the 3 Nos: No negotation, no recognition, no peace! "Israeli PM`s have claimed the goal of peace even while occupying lands from 5 of their neighbors." Heuh???? Ok, let's see: Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and Jordan that's 4. Except if... no you couldn't! Oh well except if you include the so called Palestinian. That means that at best you consider Gaza and the West Bank belonging to 3 people which would be illogical or at worst you define ISrael as "Occupied Palestine". Hypocrite! "It is deeds, not words, that count and show intentions!" My point exactly! Return of the Sinai? Withdrawal of Lebanon? Authority on most of the West Bank to the PA? Gaza? Israel has shrunk mostly during the past 25 years however terrorism has increased. Do the math!

The PA wants to bring Israel's anti-rocket operation issue to the SC of the UN. This is utter cynicism. Now, as there are no Israelis in Gaza, it became a launching pad for rockets against Israel. Now, as there are no Israelis on the Gaza-Egyptian border, this border became the place to smuggle Katiushas. And when Israel defends itself -- the PA cries afoul and wants Israel's condemnation in the UN. This is simply disgusting. Instead of weeping, the Palestinians should dismantle the private armies, according to agreements they signed, and stop their aggression against Israel. The Palestinian intifada is a crime against humanity, it should be treated in a way crimes against humanity are treated.

Eban said in 1955 before the UNSC the following about Egypt - replace Egypt by PA and you'll get problem! "Egypt considers and proclaims that there is "a state of war". In the name of that "state of war", Egypt asserts a "right" to perform hostile acts of its choice against Israel. On the other hand, Egypt claims immunity from any hostile response emanating from Israel. This is the doctrine of unilateral belligerency, and it has no parallel or precedent in the jurisprudence of nations...the Security Council's authority is today invoked to protect Egypt against any reaction which its active prosecution of the "state of war" may elicit. t would be strictly and scientifically accurate to describe the essence of the Egyptian position in two sentences: Egypt may behave towards Israel as though there were war. Israel must behave towards Egypt as though there were peace."

Poor Dutch, never responds to facts, and just repeats the same tired propoganda. He/she/it just can't accept that the Arabs declared the war, the Arabs continue to wage the war, and the Arabs are the only ones who can change from jihad and make peace. However, while the Palestinian Authority, Fatah and Hamas all have constitutions calling for Israel's destruction, that's just not going to happen. Dutch also ignores that 70% of Israeli casualties are civilians while only 35% (that's half, Dutch) of the Palestinians casualties are. It shows that Israelis target terrorists who hide among civilians, a violation of the GC. It shows that Palestinians target civilians. Of course, the truth would hurt, so the judeophobes will stay in their surreality.

In the past Israel showed more than once the intention to negotiate,and every time it was the palestinian side who refussed to make a clear step forward. It was israel who left the Gaza strip, and what did they get: Daily rocket fire. Now the palestinians voted Hamas into gouvernment,an Organisation who declares in their agenda the destruction of Israel. But when Israel trys to defend its Citiciens, the arabs intervent at the UN, the whole world crys out and............. right, Israel is the bad guy, that is, from my point of view, a slap in the face!

It seems hypocritical if viewed from the perspective that all people are equal under G-d. However, if one is fighting an internal Arab-nation battle, i.e. non democratic, totalitarian (quasi-redundant?), brutal regime, and an external one against what you perceive to be your own destiny, i.e. pan-Arab, and/ or pan-Islamic, with this little-big annoyance (a strong Israel), you quite rightly, and non-hypocritically have reduced, the other (i.e. "us")to a concept set of humanity that doesn’t match ours. And yet, wait a minute, and to not equate approaches by any means; there are times when we also think of the other as less than human.... hmmmmmn. Peace. When?

What the people and the word think about us. Are we target for the fun of some poor oppressed Pal? Are we nice only when we received their violence without reacting? Do you really thing that during a war civilian are safe especially if they live close a military installation. I regret the death of innocent people but the difference between we and them(the Pals)Pal have as main target CIVILIANS we not.

"The international community cannot continue to stand idly by while defenseless women, children and men continue to be killed, wounded and maimed," Too true! But only, it seems, when the victims are Arab. When they are Israelis, murdered by Arab fundamentalist fanatics, fuelled with hate, there is rarely such an outcry.

A more important person came to Israel recently the grandson of Ghandi. And he stated u oppression validates the use of violence. Well the Palestinians prefer to use violence and at random sending qassams into israel. If they stop with that perhaps the siege of Gaza will stop if not we will next time use heavier measures. Still i do advise u Dutch come to israel and approach the ISm and they will bring u to the territories and u can sit on qassam launching sites as a human shield. How about that? Come please

Even better: buy seeds and plant them in the greenhouses the settlers left, without burning or harming them

the difference btwen israel and the pals is that the pals use thir best weapons to hit israel when israel doesnt. its very funny (yes, funny) listening to the pals crying over the use of f-14 or helicopters. if they had those means the surely would use them. I think israel has to go on and retaliate to ever zone kazams are shot no matter the human prize. Remember that the objetive of the kazams is to kill as many jews as posible. The fact they dont achive their goal doesnt mean they dont want to. Free the Moon from pals and activists!!

You seem to imply that history starts when Hamas was elected. Long before Hamas was elected, long before the first qassam was fired....etc etc, there was occupation, there was uprooting of people from there homes, there was land confiscation; there was the attempt to erase a people...etc etc. Israel cannot have the cake an eat it too. It chose violence, and it is reaping violence. If Israel was "forced into war" and it really wanted it "peace" then go back to the 1967 and let us see your "peaceful" intentions. Israeli PM's have claimed the goal of peace even while occupying lands from 5 of their neighbors. It is deeds, not words, that count and show intentions!

They are defensless as a scorpion in a shoe! The IDF is really doing their job now; stopping the attacks and destroying the terrorist bases. And by the way, the Palestinians should really, really consider moving their women and children away from their bases and bomb factories so they stop them from getting hurt. That's what I would do anyway, but I'm Jewish after all. I wouldn't let women and children take the heat.

The Arab Council is right to seek the Security Council.action against Israel.No state should be allowed to escalate the violence against another people and take the law into its own hands like this. This level of violence is immoral and it will never achieve justice as Martin Luther King , Jr. points out below. Violence destroys brotherhood and it keeps society and people in a monologue instead of a dialogue. That can never be right. People need to talk and work out agreements that will properly address their problems not just create more. Thank you, Dutch P.S. Martin Luther King, Jr notes on Violence: Violence as a way of archiving justice is both impractical and immoral. It is impractical because it is a descending spiral ending in destruction for all. The old eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. It is immoral because it seek to humiliate the opponent rather than win his understanding; it seek to annihilate rather than to convert. Violence is immoral as it thrives on hatred rather than love. It destroys community and brotherhood impossible. It leaves society in a monologue rather than a dialogue. Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors and brutality in the destroyers. . Martin Luther King, jr.

The Arab Council is right to seek the Security Council.action against Israel.No state should be allowed to escalate the violence against another people and take the law into its own hands like this. This level of violence is immoral and it will never achieve justice as Martin Luther King , Jr. points out below. Violence destroys brotherhood and it keeps society and people in a monologue instead of a dialogue. That can never be right. People need to talk and work out agreements that will properly address their problems not just create more. Thank you, Dutch P.S. Martin Luther King, Jr notes on Violence: Violence as a way of archiving justice is both impractical and immoral. It is impractical because it is a descending spiral ending in destruction for all. The old eye for an eye leaves everyone blind. It is immoral because it seek to humiliate the opponent rather than win his understanding; it seek to annihilate rather than to convert. Violence is immoral as it thrives on hatred rather than love. It destroys community and brotherhood impossible. It leaves society in a monologue rather than a dialogue. Violence ends by defeating itself. It creates bitterness in the survivors and brutality in the destroyers. . Martin Luther King, jr.

hamas has right to bomb israel are you ever gonna get it!!! NO ONE has the right to bomb anyone, the sooner you realize this, the sooner children stop getting killed, and busses stop blowing up.

Israel has every right to retaliate and defend its borders. ONE MUST ASSUME THAT PALES SHOULD HAVE THE SAME RIGHT,no

Given Gary's logic, since the Palis were the ones who started the bombing of civilians, let the Israelis unleash the hounds and may the fun commence.

The Arabs will ask the SC to condemn Israel for defending itself against enemy rockets. Why don't they go all the way and ask the SC to stop Israel from halting the import of weapons? They could also ask for UN observers to protect the launching sites. These measures would surely pass in the general Assembly.

Talking about money. Where does Isreal get their's? The Beggars get it from the US. Try paying it back.

I'm no great supporter of Israel but the Palestinians have to realize that if they keep shooting rockets at Israel, the world is not going to care how harsh the Israeli reponse is. My Palestinian friends, listen to me, the Jews gave you Gaza and all the agricultural hothouses - not only don't you make benefit of it, but you keep up the violence! Everyone still remembers the Palestinians dancing in the street after 9/11 and you continue to make yourselves look bad and immoral. Stop shooting missiles, stop the suicide bombers, and then we listen to your concerns. Until then, it's a joke!

It really is too bad about the innocent women and children amongst the Palestinians. Of course, we all know that it is NOT the Israelis that are at fault. It is the terrorists who abduct these women and children from amongst their own and drag them along to their launch sites, as protection from Israeli reprisals. The terrorists know that Jews are reluctant to harm innocent bystanders, so they hope to carry out an attack and get away with it. They are the ultimate cowards. (By the way, it helps to go on these "fact-finding" missions, like I did, and see these things for yourself!) (I was amazed to see the relief on the faces of many Arabs, when, in the middle of the night, they see Israeli soldiers searching for terrorists. Their response was "Thank God they're here, otherwise, are daughters are likely to be abducted and raped by our own!" ) (Why on earth do the Palestinians want their own state?? They're so much better off under Israel's control!)

if israel is bombing and killing the pals then hamas and the plo have a right and duty to responed to the continued killing of civilians. they should attack israel everytime

Comical!

We should all rise up against Israel -- it has become immoral Killing people unlawfully...even defenseless children. What a tyrants and criminals Israel officials have become. We Should demand the Security Council acts against them. Dutch

"The international community cannot continue to stand idly by while defenseless women, children and men continue to be killed, wounded and maimed," Palestinian UN Observer Riyad Mansour said. For your information, 15 of the men killed were terrorists, the other was one's son. They are anything but defenseless- they carry MK47s and launch Kassams. If they're afraid to fight airplanes, let them come as real men and fight a gun battle; instead they shoot Kassams like women, hiding behind innocent civilians. The only fact he got right is that innocent men, women and children are being killed, wounded and maimed- Israeli citizens who are attacked simply for being Israeli, not for shooting Kassams, firing guns, or unfortunately, being brought by their father to terrorist training camps.

Mansour said: "The international community cannot continue to stand idly by while defenseless women, children and men continue to be killed, wounded and maimed," And where was Mansour demanding the same when his terrorist buddies were blowing us up. If the UN passes such a censure they would just continue to show that they are nothing more than a mouth piece for the arab block and have absolutley no credibility in the Middle East. Don't misunderstand me, i'm not condoning Israels actions, its just after years of the UN ignoring Palestinian attacks against Israeli citizens, this really would be the biggest chutzpah of all.

This double standard is laughable to say the least. Palestinian militants in the past have frequently murdered innocent and young women and children through bombings and shootings. As soon as they got a small taste of what it feels like to lose young children, they cry to the Security Council. The Palestinians made their "democratic" choice in electing Hamas and therefore lack true and reliable leadership and until a competent, unsellish and motivated leader steps up to the plate, the vicious cycle of murder will continue.

The Secueity Council must take action against Israel. No occupying power should be allowed to lauch unlawful attacks and kill oppressed people seeking only to be free. Dutch

He has to say this if not he will lose his job..poor bugger..wahaha! anyway, there is no money from PA to pay him..

We have had enough Arab lies!

they never give up do they? the arabs continue to try and get Israel censured and the US blocks it. Must suck to be on the loosing end of humanity over and over again. Maybe if they spent thier time getting thier buddies in Hamas under control and go back to the bargining table instead of wasting the UNs time.....

If Arab nations are so humane that care for inocent people, I strongly recommend them going to UN and asking for a resolution on Darfur in Sudan. Women and Children are killed by hundreds on a daily basis, and they have not blown up any buses or mudered anyone in the resteurants.

Once again, the useless UN participants are calling for "unspecified actions against Israel. A country that defends itself from terrorist should not be criticized. The Palestinian people have elected a gov't that condones such attacks, therefore they must suffer the consequences that come with their choice. Israel has every right to retaliate and defend its borders.

The US can veto as many times it wants because it is the main money giver to that bloated and useless UN. When the rest of the free loading nations pay their dues, then they can also have a say.

Calls them "freedom fighters". Those same "freedom fighters" sent a suicide bomber to murder Israeli civilians last week. Not a peep out of the Arab bloc at that time...

When an israeli get killed, the U.N (U.S) will condemn the action...( I also do).. When a palestinian get killed, the U.N (U.S) will block any condemnation and URGE BOTH sides to calm the situation..people got used to that...it happened so many times..

The PALS don't get any of the promised or needed money from their brothers. Just a bunch of clap trap at the UN; a show case for double standards and pandering. If they want to help, pony up some oil money. But PALs shouldn't hold their breath waiting for their brother's generosity.

The Israeli Jews will have to be stopped one way or another.

They cry and whine and moan when israle goes out of its way to defend its citizens!! If they are so bent on peace in general, why dont they cry and moan after terrorists kill innocent jews in malls, on busses, and on the street?? the hypocricy is nausiating

Last time I checked, launching missiles, stabbing, throwing stones, burning european embassies, firing at drivers, killing babies, blowing up sbarro's and calling for the elimination of Israel was not under DEFENSLESS in any dictionary (except Iran's dictionary). Lets explain defensless: Killing people who go to restaurants and sit for a meal, they are defensless. Blowing up a holiday dinner killing dozens, they were defenseless. Killing people while they take a bus back home from work, they are defenseless. Bombarding a site that has launched multiple rockets at Israel, well, if you have rockets you dont seem too defensless to me. If the arab states want to go to the security council, how bout they go and support a nuke free Iran?

What about ISRAELI defenseless poeple with that Quassam fire. only arab life are important mr. ambasador?

And when these so-called martyrs explode bus after bus afterrestaurant after restaurantaftercrowded plazaafter.....civilian casualties inflicted by terrorists remain uncondemned by the UN, where is their moral high ground that gives them the right to "do something" about targeted killings of vicious, murderous, filth ??? Here's the problem with the slippery spin put on the actuality: Man sour says that 18 palastinians and an 8 yer old boy were killed over the weekend by the IDF...Well, That conveniently draws attention away from the FACT 17 were murderous terrorists. Will the UN swallow this?

Arabs and Arab nations are useless at the UN. The best thing they can do is to go to the UN lounge and have few drinks. The UN is a useless body where the US have excercised hundreds of vetos defending Israel's rights to kill and murder innocent women and children. The Arab representatives can take all of the papers issued by the UN on Palestine/Israel recyle the papers and give and donate it as toilet papers to homeless shelters in NY City.

of those lost in the Pizza parlour bombing??????? Who were the perpetrators??? I think they are now wearing suits and visiting those members of the security council.