Anti-Zionist ultra-Orthodox Jews celebrate Sabbath in Gaza

Darn! The more responses I read about topics like this the more convinced I become that most Israelis are nothing but a bunch of redneck flag wavers. All speak peace, yet cannot understand it without a shotgun under their coats.

Israel has crapped on Judaism, the Jewish People's reputation and the sufferings of our Jewish ancestors. Zionism was and is a quasi religion -a right wing nationalistic movement which bludgened the young and impressionable into accepting all sorts of wrongs done to others in the name of Zionism as good for the cause at any price. The problem is that the ultimate price will be the destruction of Israel by nukes or chemical/ biological weapons (see article now on Haaretz on every citizen being handed a gas mask in Feb 2010). So Israel caused all that suffering and disposession and ethnic clenasing and exile to Palestinians, in exchange for a ruined reputation for Jews everywhere and a future holocaust far worse than the one in 1940-1945. Maybe Naturei Karta have a point....

This story makes it sound as if these were the only people represented at the marches, which is not true at all. Canadians among activists protesting blockade of Gaza Hundreds of demonstrators rallied on opposite sides of an Israeli-Gaza border crossing on Thursday to protest the blockade of the seaside territory imposed by Egypt and Israel. In Gaza, about 100 international activists gathered with some 500 Gazans, chanting and carrying signs denouncing the blockade. About 300 people held a similar protest on the Israeli side of the crossing, most of them Arab citizens of Israel. Dubbed the Gaza Freedom March, the event drew nearly 1,400 international activists to the region. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/canadians-among-activists-protesting-blockade-of-gaza/article1416211/

i am sure they can look forward to many wonderful shabbats in north korea-iran-cuba-and venezuela-i am sure they can include poland as part of their trips . just about of nut jobs that can not see gds miracle.

Don't let them back into Israel....ever!!!

Why aren't Jews of all kinds showing some support for the wretched inhabitants of Gaza? Neturei Karta may be motivated by political considerations, but humanity should be enough of a reason. Are other religious people indifferent to the suffering there?

My point was only to put things in perspective. If you echoed word "fanatic", my feeling is the irony, deeply painful, has taken the better of us both.

Hopefully they'll choke on the kiddush wine!

Neturei Karta, Are probably the remnants of what was once a thriving Kazar entity. Their hatred of Zionism, & (Israel today ) can only be balanced by their love & respect to a Murderous regime with Ahmadienjad at its head & grovelling to Haniyah in Gaza. What are the origins of the Neturei Karta ?

but i think that is essentially what's being proffered to israel with the arab peace iniative. "those arabs like yourself who are willing to accept israel need to be more vocal as do more moderate israelis who want peace but real peace not just promises of peace"~chaim set aside the right of return, which is going to be negotiated to a watered down version in ANY peace agreement, despite this initiative's terms. collectively, everything else in it amounts to what's already being, or considered to be, negotiated to one degree or another. personally, i think the signatories of the initiative all pretty much recognize the benefits of normalizing relations with israel(for all involved), although maybe some more than others. but they ALL need two things in order to successfully do so...which is why the terms of the iniative are what they are; and its why the signatories insist that israel accept it as is. first, in order to accept israel into their midst as a neighbor, they need to be able to do so as "equals", and without any appearance of acquiescing on longstanding issues of contention. it's a matter of pride. they're very similar to israelis in that respect. second, in order for it to lead to a "real" peace initiative, their citizens must accept israel as well. without that, normalized relations will never actually materialize(kind of like israel and egypt). the most expedient way of changing the views of their citizens towards israel, is to remove the source of their antagonisms. once again, the reason the terms of their initiative are what they are, and why they insist that israel accept them as they are. nothing happens over night with things like this, but in the long run, their initiative would lead to stability and prosperity for both israel and its neighbors, and although radicalism won't disappear immediately or completely, it's going to fade into greater and greater obscurity once the elements that inspire it, and feed on it, are removed. ie, it's easy to use israel as a recruiting poster as things stand, because of the animosity towards israel that's generated by the issues of contention; not so easy if those issues no longer exist...less and less so once normalized relations begin progressing. i also believe that israel would likely net some close "snuggle buddies" out of it as it as well; not least of which would be syria. assad's not very comfortable where he's at, so he's keeping up appearances; but i'll venture he's going to be surprising the west in some very positive ways in the not too distant future...and i'm also convinced that he DOES want peace and close cooperation with israel. maybe i'm wrong...but i have my reasons for thinking that. anyway...i know you didn't ask, but your post to amir prompted this long winded one of mine. sorry. happy new year. i hope it does bring you the peace and security you desire...albeit by way of a two-state agreement with the palestinians...lol. cheers!

"Israel's offensive in Gaza destroyed some 5,000 homes and, according to figures from a Palestinian rights group" And Human Rights Watch. And Amnesty International. And the Red Cross. And the united Nations. "killed over 1,400 people" Including over 400 children. Most importantly, the UN's investigation into the attacks that were prepared for over two years found that it was designed to Collectively Punish the Palestinians, and undermine their ability to be self-sustaining. "The Mission concludes that the conditions resulting from deliberate actions of the Israeli armed forces and the declared policies of the Government with regard to the Gaza Strip before, during and after the military operation cumulatively indicate the intention to inflict collective punishment on the people of the Gaza Strip." Report of the United Nations Fact-Finding Mission on the Gaza Conflict http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/docs/12session/A-HRC-12-48.pdf

What kind of jews? Haredim?, classical zionists?, Russian jews? or just plain secular non-religious jews?

I appreciate your post. Even if we have disagreements I can see by your reasonable tone that one could find a mutually agreeable compromise with one of your mind set. I do not want to see good people punished for bad people actions and this is what is happening daily in Israel and the territories. We Israelis suffer from the high security created by the threat of terrorism and Arabs suffer even more so from it. This is unfortunate and makes us unhappy. I also cannot stand some extremist "settlers" you see on TV the ones who scream horrible things and act violently. I am not with those people. I just want to live in peace with my family and I m happy to have Arab neighbors as long as I am not threatened. I do not want anyone's rights taken away, want to have a Jewish state and live with security. Those Arabs like yourself who are willing to accept Israel need to be more vocal as do more moderate Israelis who want peace but real peace not just promises of peace.

After NK attended the Holocaust denial conference in Tehran, one NK leader had to sue his children's Orthodox school for throwing out his children. All the other parents said they would withdraw their children and thereby shut the [private] school, if he remained in any way involved in the school. Machzikei Hadass Haredi community in Manchester suggested he avoid dieing locally because they may refuse to bury him -- so unforgivable was the NK chillul Hashem in Tehran, where NK kissed you know who about 30 timmes !!!!

Although N K leaders use the title 'Rabbi', they are probably self-ordained. One of the UK NK figures was called 'Rabbi' Cohen in the non-Orthodox press and it turned out he was a qalified shochet but was not a rabbi. People throw around the title 'Rabbi' in ways they wouldn't pretend to have an M.D. or Ph.D.. A beard and payos don't make you a 'rabbi' !

There was a time when N K were associated in the popular mind with Satmar Hasidut. In recent years the Satmar Rebbe signed a public notice that Satmar consider NK to be misguided outcasts. NO ONE in the Haredi world recognises these people as anything more than outcasts, rushing to kiss Ahmidinerjad and other fellow outcasts. The Manchester Kehilloh expressed doubt about burying a Manchester member of NK in the Manchester Jewish cemetery after the NK spectacle at the Holocaust denial conference in Tehran.

You wrote: "They are not going to change much, but they might just weaken stereotyping and anti-semitism in the Arab world." - Well that is something really welcome nowadays that antisemitsm and religious hatred in the Arab world is increasing steadily ! How come the anti-NK jews can't see this advantage with the NK ??

Albert Einstein and Primo Levi both questioned the wisdom of establishing a Jewish state

...activities in time of the Holocaust, I want to quote from the book HOLOCAUST VICTIMS ACCUSE: "Yitzhak Gruenbaum was chairperson of the Jewish Agency's Rescue Committee. In his book, "In Days of Holocaust and Destruction," Yitzchak Greenbaum writes, "when they asked me, couldn't you give money out of the United Jewish Appeal funds for the rescue of Jews in Europe, I said, 'NO!' and I say again, 'NO!'...one should resist this wave which pushes the Zionist activities to secondary importance."

"Worse than the toll of suffering, exploitation, death and desecration of the Torah, has been the inner rot that Zionism has injected into the Jewish soul. It has dug deep into the essence of being a Jew. It has offered a secular formulation of Jewish identity, as a replacement for the unanimous belief of our people in Torah from Heaven. It has caused Jews to view golus (exile) as a result of military weakness. Thus, it has destroyed the Torah view of exile as a punishment for sin. It has wreaked havoc among Jews both in Israel and America by casting us in the role of Goliath-like oppressors. It has made cruelty and corruption the norm for its followers." Looking at the reality of the Zionist State of Israel in 2010 I can only acknowledge the wisdom of the statement of Neturei Karta. Here are people who courageously in the face of so much abuse retain their humanity and basic Jewish values.

Even Monthy Python could not have come up with a better script.Please be lenient on these Jews.They have been brainwashed and therefore not really responsible for their behaviour.What are you trying to show us,that there are Jews not acting as such? Are leftists Jews behaving normally?Are extreme settlers?Are young Israelis who knife others?Are those using organs without family consent?Have we survived Auschwitz to behave like goyim? It's time to count the "Mensch" among the Jews and to take a good look at ourselves!!!

end of days when the believers will slaughter all the Jews with the help of the rocks and the trees? They are not descendents of pigs and monkeys? They do not use blood for their passover bread etc etc ? All the racist Islamofascist neo Nazi garbage to be found in Hamas media.! found in the Hamas

Naturei Karta are a tad bit crazy, but with the prominent exception of their praise of Hamas and A-jad, I can live with them. Even us Dati Leumi need to be reminded of the non-conflictive side of Judaism and the very clear theological link between Islam and Judaism. So much energy is put atm on expounding the differences.

These are not "ultra-orthodox" Jews. These are Jews who have betrayed their religion. In Torah law, they have earned a death penalty. Teht can call themselves what they want but do not tarnish Orthodox Jewery by associating these nuts with "orthodoxy"

...point there ! "but they might just weaken stereotyping and anti-semitism in the Arab world." Well that is really important as I see it. The growing antisemitism in the Arab-world and likewise Holocaust-denial are great threats to Arab decency. It is demeaning to the Arab nation to mix with revisionists and neo-nazis, and as I see it, it is also anti-Islamic to spread hatred towards Jews. You are right - these guys in NK can have a positive effect on twisted notions on Jews in the Arab and the Moslem world !!! Good point !!!

and when they take over the country, then the world can accept Israel as a real Democracy.

with Jewisg values, with real feelings. May GOD bless them.

These "people" are Jews with every bit with great Jewish V A L U E S , who understand how,We, JEWS, suffered so much cruelty by the hands of the Nazi Germans. We always said that there will NEVER be another Holocaust, THEN, Miche Norman, how on earth can you sit quietly and allowed the Palestinians suffered the same fate as W E did.? You seem to forget that these "people" are well educated in the Torah, and do know their sacred duties .Shalom

Nice one. Love it! God bless those guys.

The majority of the comments to this article demonstrate Zionist zealotry and its intolerance for any other opinions. I am sure the same zealous Zionists viciously attacked Goldstone when he honestly reported on the Israeli excesses in Gaza. This is surely a sad reflection on the Jews that blindly support Israel, Zionism and whatever human rights abuses are necessary to sustain a nation that no longer represents Judaism. These rabbis are much closer to the Judaic heritage of truth and justice.

"Worse than the toll of suffering, exploitation, death and desecration of the Torah, has been the inner rot that Zionism has injected into the Jewish soul. It has dug deep into the essence of being a Jew. It has offered a secular formulation of Jewish identity, as a replacement for the unanimous belief of our people in Torah from Heaven. It has caused Jews to view golus (exile) as a result of military weakness. Thus, it has destroyed the Torah view of exile as a punishment for sin. It has wreaked havoc among Jews both in Israel and America by casting us in the role of Goliath-like oppressors. It has made cruelty and corruption the norm for its followers." Looking at the reality of the Zionist State of Israel in 2010 I can only acknowledge the wisdom of the statement of Neturei Karta. Here are people who courageously in the face of so much abuse retain their humanity and basic Jewish values.

YOSEF YOU ARE RIGHT IN WHAT YOU POST. GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL YOUR FAMILY.

The Guardians of the City splinted from other, less militant ultra-Orthodox a decade before Israel proclaimed independence. At that time most ultra-Orthodox opposed Zionism as Israel could only be created by the Messiah. For the most part this has lost importance as the ability of Israel to subsidize Haredi has increased. So what if the Messiah has not arrived, Israel pays the bills. . . I find a curious beneficial effect in the Neturei Karta. They look like every Arab's nightmare of Jews, the leering Haredi, and yet are honest (if demented) advocates of coexistence between Arabs and Jews. They are not going to change much, but they might just weaken stereotyping and anti-semitism in the Arab world.

1) You say NK literature tells of zionists who did not help jews during WW2. If they feel so strongly about that sort of thing why do they refuse to respect Holocaust memorial day. All we ask is they respect a 2 minute silence but they say that doe not concern them. Amazing isn't it these people who are so angry that zionists didn't do enough to help jews during WW2 are not willing to even observe a 2 minute silence once a year to remeber murdered jews? If they believe they represent jews why can't they respect the dead, this isn't a political event its a memorial service for ordinary jews not the zionists. Even arabs in Israel respect it 2) NK don't give a damn about the palestinians and their cause all they do care about is trying to delegitimaise Israel and its right to exist because thei ideology is Israel has no right to exist in any border until the messiah comes 3) If these people are such good jews why do they break Shabbat so they can carry out political hate demonstrations

We can only have peace when when we stop viewing eachother with contempt. the situation in Gaza is tragic indeed but ppl need to cool their heads on both sides.

On wings of eagles???And the airlifts from Yemen,Kurdistan,Ethiopia were soap bubbles??? Yep NK are a sad sick bunch they blame themselves and fellow Jews for the Holocaust.

to talk with Hamas,Achmadinjhad ,holocaust deniers and even say it was a good thing is insane. I love Israel and what it stands for, these rabbis would have been fodder for the gas chambers, when the rest of the world didnt give a damn, now that said what is happening to Gypsy(Romany) people in Europe up to this day??? Can you imagine if Jews stayed on in those places???

Neturei Karta & Kazars, The Kazars once held a huge terrority. Some of its people converted to Judaism. They were a force to be reckoned with. After the defeat by the Russians,(!!th cent.?) the remanents of what was once a proud entity disintegrated. Many foumd refuge in Poland,the Ukraine & other East European countries. The Neturei Karta,are most probably the descendents of the Kazars.Hence their behaviour towards the Jews & their subconscious will to go back to their original status before their conversion to Judaism. See their behaviour towards Ahmadienjad & their kissing of his hands,(reeking w/blood) And now their going into Gaza Kissing Haniyah's bloody hands. It's not an unusual trait ! Many a time a prisoner will,instead of exacting revenge for his harsh & cruel treatment,wiil bow down to his oppressor,willing to work for him ! Jews have also seen Shabtai Tzvi,who claimed he was the Messiah.(It was false) When under interrogation.Turned 2 Islam!The Traitor

The only one that raised up against Nazis were zionists from zionist parties.All the commanders of Warsaw Ghetto uprising, were left wing zionists,(except Marek Edelman who was from Bund. He even stayed in Poland after Poland unleashed antisemitic campaign and fired him from his position as a cardiologists in Lodz. His wife and children left for Paris. Edelman returned to Poland like a carpetbegger. What did he prove?). All the religious Jews went to gas chambers like sheep.Not a proud moment for Jewish nation.

Several talkbacks have argued for these four men to be deported. I assume they mean from Israel. Unfortunately (and I say this as an American formerly resident in Canada) they are Americans and Canadians, not Israelis. Incidentally, their peculiar sect does not have many adherents and they blame the Holocaust on Jews. A very peculiar group of people indeed.

It is difficult for us to support Zionism to 100 % - but still Israel is a fact, and the clock can not be reversed. It is better that BOTH sides cool down and start to work on a constructive solution. BOTH sides have to give and take. A ME with full cooperation, either with two equal and friendly states besides each other OR one state with EQUAL rights for ALL citizens [with citizenship also for PA population in occupied areas] might be a way. Still it is important that FANATICS on both sides stop considering the other sides population as subhuman or just part of the natural fauna

it is contraproductive designating people as being "nuts" or "derranged". The NK deny Israel on their interpretation of Judaism, so do the Satmar - even if they are not as politically active as NK. Another important point is that a great fraction of the East European Jewry, prior to Holocaust also considered Sionism as not being adherent to the Jewish religion. A majority of those Jews were exterminated in the Holocaust. Still, Israel exists, and the clock can not be reversed. Added to this, we have a situation in which 85 % of the Pals can claim ancestry to the Jews and other Hebrew tribes that remained in the land [and gradually converted to Christianity and Islam] after the expulsion-policy and extermination-policy of ancient Rome.

Odd how Israel has a anti-Israel peace movement, a Ultra orthodox anti-zionist movement. and so on and yet one thing Arabs seem to be united about is that they all want Israel destroyed. I have only met a handful of Arab zionist who admitted to me they preferred Israel to Arab rule but they are the exception like these nutty Satmar in the Neutra Kartei. For the record many Satmar like my friends find the Neutra Karta to be embarrassment and a shame to the Satamar and the Jewish people.

"These "people" should not be allowed to cross back, their citizenship should be revoked..." You do realize that none of these men are Israeli citizens? They are American and Canadian.

These despicable self appointed rebbes and so called JEWS should be barred from EVER entering ISRAEL. Their parasitic supporters living here should be banished too.

and especially ultra-Orthodox (haredi) Judaism, before you call these fanatics "decent people". These are the people who yesterday conducted a violent demonstration against the police outside the Bikkur Holim Hospital in Jerusalem, because a haredi man was arrested for killing his 8-month old child.

The Jews in Iran even have a representative in the government. Many of my friends back in Iran are Iranian Jews. There are 25 synagogues in Tehran alone, where Jews are allowed to practice without interference.

every day these heretics pray for the restauration of the temple and for zion. at least, that is part of the daily prayer of all jews. yet they go and give comfort to holocaust deniers and preachers of the detruction of the jewish people. they have been denied by all other strands of judaism, including the satmar.

Shows there are decent people in every community.

The Neturei Karta has just presented a solution to the haredi threat - deport them to Gaza! I am sure they will be warmly accepted there. Can you imagine - a Hamas terrorist dressed in kapote, gartel and shtreimel?

I heard there are sects of Judaism that found it "the right thing"... are these part of this group, too?

Those opinions have nothing to do with the Pals or Israel's conduct. It has everything to do with the Satmar Jews Messianic goals. The would say anything about anything if it increased the chances, in their view, of the Messiah coming. If they believed taht the existence of a Pal state would prevent the Messiah from coming, based on the current facts, they would be on Israel's side. They are infants and anything but benevolent and kind. They are warped.

People get a little sensitive when they think that a difference of opinion threatens their saftey and security. Anyway, this isn't a difference in opinion. The opinion is informed and merely a repition of the religious precept that is central to the existence of Satmar Jews. Its is nt an opinion that is informed by the merits of the issue. Get it Amir!

What the heck does that mean? Violence is not a product endorsed by a company or a cause? Its ture "that not all Jews agree with Israel's response to Pal violence". But so what. There is nothing that all Jews or all other peoples agree on. Nevertheless, Jews in overwhelming numbers understand that Pals are attempting to eliminate the protection and security that a Jewish state provides Jews. Without Israel Jews would be exposed to the kind of vicious treatment they have been victims of for 2000 years. And Arabs & Pals have dished out their share of this violence. So, fundamentally, Israel's response to Pal violence is a response to an attack on Jews. The root rational for Jewish violence is self defence. For the Rabbis the right of self defence is conditional on it not being tied into the existence of a Jewish state. Their nutty point is that its not self defence if it means Israel survives! I say that this is not about peace but is transparent self serving religious crap.

"it's crucial that the people of gaza understand the terrible tragedy here is not in the name of judaism". AMEN, gentlemen!

When longing for peace becomes insanity, something is very wrong... are war, killing and discrimination signs of mental health?

What a dumb post. The Christian world is not waiting for the Messiah; the whole point of Christianity is that the Messiah has come (Jesus).

These are insane people, both the Rabbis and the Pals. The Pals have an excuse. They were made crazy by the circumstances they were born into, by manipulation by their leaders and their Imams, by the use of their "cause" by their Arab "brothers and sisters" in far off lands, by the content of their religion and many other things. The Rabbis studied hard to become crazy, though its not completely their fault either. No doubt their parents played a role in making them crazy too. In any event, the validity of Israel's actions is corroborated by the beliefs, judgement and criticisms of her insane opponents.

where is the sympathetic support from kiryath joel? has neturei karta penetrated satmar and belz?

Everyone is entitled to express their views in a Democracy, but giving aid and comfort to those that want to destroy you, is not too bright and considered treason in most civilized countries.

I'm just wondering if during the Holocaust they also thought of going to Germany to express their support to Hitler. After all isn't destruction of the world supposed to bring Moshiach ?

Finaly you find "Jews" that crawl in the muck like you...These worms are not "Orthodox" and certainly not Jews.Thery are a bunch of sickos selling their soul to the devil...I wonder how much they are paid to display how dirty they are...

Even if the NK is small, one should remember following. They had the bravery to go to the Tehran conference in 2006, and did for sure attest that the Holocaust HAD TAKEN PLACE - upfront into the faces of a number of Revisionists and Holocaust-deniers who also were participating. Furthermore, even if they are few, there is more than 100 000 Satmar Orthodox Jews worldwide that contest some of the fundaments of the state of Israel. Why can't some of you accept different opinions in your own camp ?

Israel makes a mistake to allow this cancer in its midsts.They should not be allowed to return into the Country,if they go brownose the iranian hitler or the gazan murderers!!!!!!!

"We feel your suffering, we cry your cry" BUT: they dont seem to feel the past, present and future Jewish sufferings and cries!!!

The state must impose the same rules for these parasites as it does to all other citizens. ie, military service, etc.. if not, let them move to Gaza and Iran. Israel needs them like a hole in the head. Nefarious, backward parasites is what they are.

What a pathetic bunch of scum, these people are no more than leaches on society, they give nothing in return for their blood sucking. They are not Jews but Iranian Mullahs in disguise as Jews...and they deserve the same fate

While this may look strange that a group of Jews seem to support the enemy, however you should read between the lines. Whether they think what they say or not, only they know. However, one fact I know is that when they visited Iran and met with ahmadinejad, Iran has freed two of the ten Jewish prisoners that it accused of spying for Israel (earlier). They were able to convince the Iranian government that the State of Israel "tricked these poor people into spying for them". So, my fellow Jews, please look at the big picture. While it looks wiered, but what they do has given at least two Jews their freedom. I personally think, if a REAL war was to break out between Jews and Arabs, Naturei Karta would be the first to join their fellow Jews in the fight against the enemy.

"the law of return" must be atlast be reviewed.. There is Israel, a state and Judaism, a religion. Responsibility as a citizen and religion have nothing to do one with the other.

These leeches live off of the welfare system in Israel, but yet oppose it. Kick the bums out to Gaza.

I am Jewish. I have experienced anti-semitism towards Jews and have read same throughout history. The Christian world has been waiting for the Messiah now for some many centuries. During the wait the same Christian people have allowed some of their co-relgionists to slaughter my people in the name of Christianity or just blind hatred of another. Where was the Christian "sense' of brotherly love during these times. As far as the Nutrei Karta are concerned they can wait till the Moshiach arrives in order to found a Jewish state. Sorry but we Jews have had enough of being slaughtered waiting for either the Messiah or Moshiach. As far as I am concerned Israel already exists...with its flaws and good points. Just like all other countries and peoples. The Nutrei Karta in their beliefs can live wherever they want. Good luck to them.

Why do you condemn Neturei Karta - because their literature tells of the Zionists who did not help Jews WW2?

Otherwise talk is cheap.

with the bunch of int'l activists of the Gaza Freedom March trying to get into Gaza. These rabbis are the conscience that Israel lacks...and I'm so glad they managed to get in Gaza in the end. In our 21st century, and starting a second decade, concentration camps of any form should not exist, be it in Palestine or else where.

Gaza. This should be the test they'd be admitted to live there. Otherwise, talk is cheap.

i am a neturei karta supporter but this is too much

this Naturei Karta garbage are a threat to survival of Jews, they even made statements justifying the Holocaust. Israel should deport them ASAP.

...talking about ??? They crossed from the Egyptian side, and furthermore - they are American and Canadian citizens, that is to say -none of your business !

I have a great deal of respect and admiration for this group.

But I've so far not seen Muslims for Jews? Is that because they keep blowing themselves to pieces? And Christians for Jews, plenty, but as freaky as the rest. So I'll just remain a Jew for Jews....

Who openly told me that most of that org members , and there very few of them , are mentally unstable . In other words , not only nutcases , but really mental cases . And as such , not responsible for their actions .

These maniacs are American citizens they reside in Monsey, N.Y.

Firstly, these people speak for a tiny minority of Jews. They couldn't even get a minyan of people together to spend SHABBAT! They are less than 5 km from plenty of shuls in Sderot where they can actually do the things they are supposed to be doing on Shabbat. Instead they make a political statement. Second, to the poster who said to revoke their citizenships, please read the article... they are NOT Israeli citizens! They are US and Canadians. And, these people are so wrong on so many levels it's scary.. They naively associate with people who, in an instant, would shove them into the oven without a second thought. They serve a convenient purpose for Israel- and Jew-haters, and they are well compensated for it... I believe "Rabbi" Weiss earned something like $250k per year as Arafat's "Minister of Jewish Affairs" years back. And the only affairs Arafat wanted with the Jews was how to get them off the land between the Jordan and the Mediterranean. It was a sham job for a sham rabbi.

They remind me of the German Jews who put an announcement in the press to the effect that they regarded themselves as Germans first & Jewish second. They all ended up in the ovens !!

Neturei Karta believe Zionists "stole" Arabs' land, meaning all Palestine. Don't they believe that when the Messiah comes on his white donkey to Tsfat, all the Jews in the world will be transported to the Land of Israel on the wings of eagles, exactly as foretold by the Prophets? Will they become citizens of a Palestine, or of a Jewish state--don't you wonder? "They have eyes, but they don't see, they have ears, but they don't hear." Not true Jews, as they claim, but true psychos, as we all know..

They don't believe Israel has a right to exist in any borders until the messiah comes and they want the country dismantled and handed over to the arabs in full.. There is nothing they would like more than for another country to invade Israel and destroy it, proof as far as they are concerned Israel has no business existing. They even boycott Holocaust memorial day. These so called good jews also carry out alot of their demonstrations on Shabbat. Instead of being home with their families enjoying Shabbat they are out calling for Israels destruction. I remeber during Cast Lead seeing on SKY news this lot outside the Israeli embassy in London throwing shoes and carrying banners which is in breach of Shabbat. These people who think they are good jews are probably some of the worst jews out there because they support the people who want the jews dead & they put politics before religion. I am sure most Israelis would be happy for these people to stay in Gaza & never come back.

to dinner with the mad man of Iran and joined him in his wish to wipe Israel off the map. Their premise is thatJews cannot live in the land until the Messiah comes.

The Neturei Karta's are nothing but a bunch of opportunistic hypocrites, period. My late uncle told me a story (he was an IDF flag officer), in 1967 as the army was fighting it's way to the old city, the N.K. came out of their little rat holes, to toast and offer scnapps to the soldiers on their way to the fight for the Old City and the Kotel. When it suits them they can be accommodating, otherwise watch out.

some Jews who speak the truth.

when Barak was the PM-their eternal cringig doesn't seem to put them on the "protected Jews" list ,top of their dreams

These "people" should not be allowed to cross back, their citizenship should be revoked and at the very least all further national insurance payments to them and their families should be stopped immediately. We should excoriate these miserable quislings from our midst,

Likes many Jews worldwide, there are many whom do not agree with or support the transgressions of an Israeli state. There is no foundation within the Judaic tradition for the treatment of peoples as the Israelis have treated the Arabs. Neither the suffering of the Jews in the Holocaust nor in the pogroms justify abandonement of our values for the sake of owning a piece of real estate. God gave us the world to live in, and over the centuries we have done well. Why should we betray that heritage now and adopt the very Western values that threatened our existance.?

Each to his own......let them settle freely and peacefully in Gaza, Damascus, Tehran, Ramallah. It reminds me of a line in Fiddler on Roof:- May God bless the Tzar (or NK) and keep him (them) far away from us!"

It was not an offensive, it was a retaliation, meaning Hamas provoked it. And I wouldn't buy into anything coming out of the Hamas rumor mill either. Those rabbis are well-educated people. They should know better.

One of those is slated to be the Minister for Jewish affairs in the government of a Palestinian state. That should take care of the Settlers...!

They haven't learned anything from the history...silly idiots

what are they going to do for a minyan on shabbat? one can only be thankful for their support of our enemy it shows who's correct in this arguement its one thing to differ its another to support the enemy