Ahmadinejad's call to destroy Israel draws French condemnation
Iran president tells leaders of Muslim states that solution to crisis is to destroy Israel; France: Shows Iran cannot be stabilizing force.
By The Associated PressIranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Thursday the solution to the Middle East crisis was to destroy Israel, Iranian state media reported.
In a speech during an emergency meeting of Muslim leaders in Malaysia, Ahmadinejad also called for an immediate cease-fire to end the fighting between Israel and the Iranian-back group Hezbollah.
"Although the main solution is for the elimination of the Zionist regime, at this stage an immediate cease-fire must be implemented," Ahmadinejad said, according to state-run television in a report posted on its Web site.
France's foreign minister condemned Ahmadinehjad's comments Thursday, saying Iran is ruining its chances to play a positive and stabilizing role in the Middle East.
"I totally condemn these words," Philippe Douste-Blazy said on France-Inter radio, saying they were "absolutely unacceptable on anyone's part, especially from a head of state."
The crisis had presented an opportunity for Iran to "show that it can play a positive and stabilizing role in the region," Douste-Blazy said, adding that Ahmadinejad's statement "confirmed that this is not the case."
In a meeting with Iranian Ambassador Gholamreza Ansari, Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Saltanov "emphasized the need for all interested parties to take efforts to find a solution that would allow to put an end to fighting and violence in the region and stage the ground for establishing a stable peace."
"Iran could also contribute to the efforts," the Foreign Ministry quoted Saltanov as saying.
Jordanian king: IDF offensive turning Hezbollah into herosJordan's King Abdullah, a staunch pro-U.S. ally, said on Thursday that Israel's offensive against Hezbollah had turned its fighters into heroes among ordinary Arabs.
In the toughest rebuke against his peace partner Israel in recent years, the monarch said the rise of guerrilla groups such as Hezbollah who targeted the Israel stemmed from Israel's reluctance to give up Arab territory captured in the 1967 Six-Day War in return for lasting peace.
"They [Israelis] want to destroy Hezbollah by tanks and air force. Peace comes by returning occupied territory and setting up a Palestinian state," he said.
"The war will not solve anything and Arab peoples see now in Hezbollah a hero facing aggression and defending their land," Abdullah said. "Ok, if you [Israel] destroy Hizbollah and, let's say, after a year or two there is no solution to the Palestinian cause or Lebanon or Syria .. then a new Hezbollah would emerge, maybe in Jordan, Syria or Egypt .. Israel should know this."
"A fact America and Israel must understand is that as long as there is aggression and occupation there will be resistance and popular support for the resistance," the monarch said.
Muslim nations call for immediate ceasefire in LebanonThe Islamic world's biggest bloc on Thursday demanded that the United Nations implement an immediate cease-fire in Lebanon and investigate what it called flagrant human rights violations by Israel.
Leaders of key countries in the 56-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference, including Iran, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan and Turkey, voiced strong support for the Lebanese people "in their legitimate and courageous resistance against the Israeli aggression."
"We demand that the United Nations Security Council fulfill its responsibility ... by deciding on and enforcing an immediate and comprehensive cease-fire," the OIC said at an emergency summit. The declaration also called for a UN investigation into Israel's acts.
"We hold Israel responsible for the loss of lives and suffering ... and demand that Israel compensate (Lebanon) and its people for the losses sustained resulting from Israeli aggression," the leaders said.
Malaysia, which chairs the OIC, rallied presidents, prime ministers and policy-makers of 17 Muslim-majority nations for one-day talks to articulate their opposition to Israel's attacks in Lebanese and Palestinian territories.
"This war must stop, or it will radicalize the Muslim world, even those of us who are moderate today," said Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, who leads the world's most populous Muslim country.
"From there, it will be just one step away to that ultimate nightmare: a clash of civilizations," he added.
Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi called for a UN-backed force to stabilize the Israeli-Lebanon border.
Muslims "must show preparedness to contribute forces for peacekeeping operations under the United Nations banner," Abdullah told the conference.
Pakistan's Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz said hostilities must be halted "before the spiraling violence engulfs the entire region and kills the hope for a durable and just peace in the Middle East."
Lebanon's Foreign Minister Fawzi Salloukh said his country's "sole request is a comprehensive cease-fire."
Other top figures assembled included President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran, as well as leaders of Azerbaijan, Bangladesh, Brunei and Turkey. Foreign ministers and senior officials represented Egypt, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Senegal, the United Arab Emirates and Yemen, as well as the Palestinian Liberation Organization.
About 100 Malaysian Muslim activists chanted anti-Israeli slogans outside the summit venue.
Israel and Hezbollah guerrillas controlling southern Lebanon have been locked in fierce fighting for three weeks, resulting in hundreds of Lebanese civilian casualties.
Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora, addressing the conference in a video statement, said Israel's offensive "is taking an enormous toll on human life and infrastructure, and has totally ravaged our country and shattered our economy."
"Over 900 (have been) killed and 3,000 injured so far, one third of the casualties are children under 12," he said.
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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad arriving at the 10th Islamic Summit Conference in Malaysia on Thursday. (AP) |
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Stop killing decent people who you treat as less than human, 'Israelies' is a nonsences and an irellevant occuppying force. Jews should not cause holaucust against people who are in ther way. There is no right to an Israeli state, it is completly oppressive and western governments weekness in the 40's is shamefull. Tim G
At least it is nations that are fighting, the hardest part is when people do not have a nation and are persecuted.
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SO much ignorance! to Mel and anybody who think that Israel is "occupied Muslim land", you obviously don't know your history or don't want to acknowledge the facts... ever since the 8th Century BC, when the Jews' "Kingdom Of Israel" (larger than the same area of today's Israel) was invaded and conquered by the Babylonian Empire, the Jews have been exiled from THEIR native homeland, until 1948 AD (therefore they were forced to set up communities to anywhere who'd let them stay, mainly through Europe - this is called the Jewish Diaspora). this started 14 centuries BEFORE the birth of Islam and the subsequent invasion by Muslim Arabs of Palestine, in the 7th century (The Romans renamed Israel to Palestine as an insult to the Jews). so history tells us that the Jews are the descendants of the Israelites who are infact the ancient natives of the land of Israel/Palestine, not the Muslims (they originated from today's Saudi Arabia)... wake up people and know your history before you judge!
The whole world seems to forget that hizbala started this war when they kidnaped 2 IDF soldiers. I don't understand why the world media doesn't show the damege that the rockets has caused us. Why does the world forget about our 2 million refuges that don't know when they will be able to return to their houses(in case there's left any house)?
The muslims don't hate jewish people. What makes them offensive is that they have occupied muslim land and enslaved the native populations. Controlled by jews brought in from eastern europe and rest of the world.
Dear Myles from Ireland, Your post states that Islam was not anti-Jewish until Israel was created. What?? With all due respect, you really need to read a history book; or perhaps the Hadith and/or Koran. Or, are you one of those ignorant people/liberals who is still buying the "religion of peace" nonsense endlessly espoused by the mainstream media. Islam is a cult of death, oppression and darkness...unless you are an Islamic male, of course. Don't they have libraries in Ireland? Regards, Sam
"The Muslim world hates Israel because it is a Jewish state in a region they consider their own." It seems many of them have a problem with anyone who does not have the same religious beliefs. Sunnis are fighting with Shite and they also have problems with Christians. Jews just happen to be more different and so Muslims hate them the most. The problem is not Jew vs. Muslim it is a problem of Muslim vs. anyone who has different views. Why is the Muslim world so intolerant of those with a different religion?
The Balfour Declaration did NOT establish a Jewish State, nor did it establish Israel. The declaration promised the Jewish people a homeland in Palestine, some thing already under construction in the 1890s with the full agreement and encouragement of the "Sublime Porte" in Istanbul. In the early 20s the British agreed with the then ruler of the Hijaz (Mecca and Medina - the direct descendent of the Prophet) that jews would be allowed to make up no more than 23% of the population of Palestine. This in fact was respected and acted on and Jews who managed to reach Palestine, largely did so through bribing Palestinian customs agents working inside the British Mandate. The first real massacres in Palestine were in fact committed by the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood in Nazareth where Jewish families were murdered in the 20s. The British government between 1923 and 1947 attempted several times to create a conference between Arab Muslims, Christians and Jews to create a "Federal State."
While Hezballah does have a presence in the government of the Lebanon, it has only 16 seats in a parliament of 100. It certainly does NOT represent the entire Lebanese population. The stated intention of Hezballah is to impose a Shiite theocracy (int the Iranian model) on the Lebanon. Not only does Iran send military and financial assistance, they also send military advisors (some 400 officers from the revolutionary guard) and there are upwards of 20,000 Iranian nationals invovled directly inside the Lebanon and as part of Hezballah. To make claims that Iran is intent only on "Regime Change" is utter nonsense. Iran is intent on exporting a Shiite brand of theocracy and on imposing their own agenda on the entire Middle East. If Arab Nations have been reluctant to respond to Israel's "attacks" on Lebanon it is because they are fully aware of the dangers of an Iran running rampant together with their proxies, Syria and Hezballah over the Middle East.
A Ceasefire is just a short-term solution to this war, because history of this war, since 1948 when Arab States invaded the then-newly-resurrected Israel, has shown that after a ceasefire the war will just start up again in a different place, usually within a decade. The fact is that a ceasefire has never provided a long-term solution to actually ending this war, and what is needed here is a long-term solution. So given the history of this war, i now ask anybody this: what is the point of a ceasefire? To stop the loss of innocent lives??? Of course, but so long as this war rages on there will always be the loss of innocent lives! Therefore i support Condelezza Rice's call for a longterm solution instead of a short-term ceasefire which, time has shown, doesn't work in ending this silly war.
from a certain Daryoush Shirazi.Read it and tell me waht you think before jumping the gun.Even hatred has limits hollingworth
The definition of a terrorist is quite simple. You are a terrorist if you kill innocent civilians for a political purpose. Who is Hezbollah targeting with their missiles? Who do they hide behind when the Israeli warplanes locate them? Your "New" definition of terrorist is, anyone who attempts to improve the situation in that part of the world. I wonder how life would be under an autocratic regime where you are killed for wearing shorts.
the list of responses below this response is why there will never be an agreement between israel and the arab world. get rid of those that preach terrorism, and the common people of israel and the arab world can live together. They all just want to raise their children and better their lives. The terrorists will never allow this to happen because then what. they would be out of work.
Actually, Islam was anti jewish from the outset (early to mid 1600s) as the koran specifically states that jews are their enemy and christians are friends of the jews. ( guilt by association)
Ahmadinejad's suggestion that by destroying Israel the mideast problem would be resolved is correct insofar as it is one of any number of violent solutions that could resolve the conflict in the mideast. Another solution is for the destruction of Iran and Syria. That would work, too. In his world, HATE RULES! Who does that remind you of?
According to what is quoted he NEVER said Israel should be destroyed. Can't journalists' read? ..."Although the main solution is for the elimination of the Zionist regime,..." A REGIME is not a STATE. The media are lying: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12790.htm
From Saudi Arabia where American soldiers on duty are not allowed to bring their Bibles? I guess Arab Muslims are the most tolerant religious group ever. Just see the results of their tolerance in Mogadishu (Somalia), India, Pakistan, Indonesia, Iran, and the entire Muslim world. They should be in a position to teach Israel not to be racist or "Zionist"! Talk about hypocrisy on your part, Sam
"They`re alway been there (sic) sniffing around,waiting for the best time throw up their racist,bigoted,putrid vomit." I ask the reader to assess D. Leopold's hysterical outburst. Who, indeed, is the 'looney?' Say, Daniel, I hope you clean up after yourself after each of these tirades.
Leo, you claim that "My point was that just because some imortant intellectual developments happened in the islamic countries 1000 years ago not much has happened there since." That directly contradicts with your post #253: "Math? Astronomy? Those were Greek inventions" which negates any Arab/Muslim contribution to math, and which raised my objection. So I'm anxious to know which it is! [ besides: I don't see the causality in the first quote ] "I forgot more math than you ever knew." Well, I'm very interested in your credentials, then. But it seems that logical thinking is in the part you forgot. "Neither Al Khwarizmi nor Khayyam were arabs, and it is not clear at this distance to what extent they were muslims." I agree on the first. The second part is moot. They lived in an Islamic society - Al Khwarizim even at the Caliph's court - which apparently encouraged mathematical study.
We saw Afghanistan war,Iraq war now just awaiting to see Iran war,Syria war,Pakistan war and many more.I think before the end of my life I may see 3rd world war.
"A litle history. During the second world war israelis suffered really hard." A little more actual history: During the Second World War, there were no Israelis. Israel was neither declared nor recognized as a state until 1948. The Second WOrld War ended in 1945.
A litle history. During the second world war israelis suffered really hard. Now they are doing the same to the people of Lebanon and Palestine. There is sometime a second payback time, because I think israelis have forgotten.
Ever heard of SAVAK? (Trained by CIA and Mossad) who butchered THOUSANDS of Iranians. Yeah right, so much for another US puppet(shah of iran). Well, you see the results now. You are pathetic.
Your response is meritless on every possible level and I suspect you know it. Without debating who attacked whom in 1948 etc. and without debating the obvious differences with the position in South Africa, you know very well that Ahmadinejad means the destruction of Israel as it is now, by force. He is publicly credited with calling Israel a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the map".Does that sound like a call for democratic change ? Why not be a man and admit that you support what he is really calling for--death to Jews.At least we all will know where you stand in case that wasn't already obvious.
"Hizbullah is the winner already! stop arrogancy and lies! Israel lost already 732 Soldiers! " Pity that those you support need to lie so severely. But, on the up side, Hezbullah must be starting to loose quite severely to put out the kind of info that we now see. I hadn't seen a body count nearly as inflated as that. It appears to be more than 10X higher than the actual value. I guess we'll add it to the catalog of lies comming from Nassrallah these days. Also from the mouth of the liars: 'Hezbullah sunk an Israeli ship in the last few days' -- not true. 'Hezbullah has suffered losses of less than 50' -- it appears to be in the hundreds. Where is Bahgdad Bob when you need him. Remember that guy? He was hillarious. Somehow. however. coming from you, the lying just seems sad.
Dear Mr Bore De Wolf! I read ur post on the contribution of Persians to Math ...While I agree that the Persians are people with brains let me remind u that it is absolutely irrelevant with the subject we are debating.... So keep u'r "gyan" (Knowledge) to urself and discuss the issue on hand!
"The collective sense of impotence among muslims will be manifested in many ways: REJECTION and INTOLERANCE to the WEST are among others. The LINE has being drawn these days, for long lasting impact." -indrajaya This is nothing new. If you're saying it'll get worse, you might be right. But if you're suggesting this is a reason to end the conflict, I believe you're wrong. If every conflict between muslims and non-believers becomes a battle against the entire muslim world, then we are better off standing firm in our resolve. Israel has every right to defend itself. And unlike other countries and individuals who base their support on ethnicity or religion, the US and many americans support Israel on the basis of our shared foundation on democratic ideals and the belief in individual freedom and justice.
its naive to say so n so religion contributed to science!! Newton and Einstein werent reading their scriptures when they came up with their laws n theories. Its a fact that medical and sceintific progress happened in Islamic regions. Due to Islam or despite Islam. we all know. Check Persian poetry in the generation after Persia was Islamicized. you will get some idea. Regarding ego trip on maths. so whats ur GRE score? or did u get the Fields or Turing award?
..."that dropping explosives onto civilian targets is perfectly normal and reasonable"...Amazing. The most amazing of all was Israel proudly presenting that to all over the world, "LIVE" (showing off their latest technology of wars). NO SHAME AT ALL. They spit the world on the face.
..."that dropping explosives onto civilian targets is perfectly normal and reasonable"...Amazing. The most amazing of all was Israel proudly presenting that to all over the world, "LIVE" (showing off their latest technology of wars). NO SHAME AT ALL. They spit the world on face.
If the NEW terrorist definition is: Fight the agressor, resist to who occupied your country, say NO to bush and Almert massacres, say NO to kil opression....if this is the definition of terrorism...I'm pround to be a terrorist! The ral terrorist are USA regime and The zionists, wake up your conscience and be fair and free for one time in your life...the life is a moment of dignity!
If the NEW terrorist definition is: Fight the agressor, resist to who occupied your country, say NO to bush and Almert massacres, say NO to kil opression....if this is the definition of terrorism...I'm pround to be a terrorist! The ral terrorist are USA regime and The zionists, wake up your conscience and be fair and free for one time in your life...the life is a moment of dignity!
"They vote with their emotions and with the emotions of their populations, not with their intellects." And we vote with our intellects?
"Israel Should be wiped of the map" = Clear Math Quiz: Which President said that? True Math lovers admit their mistakes!
As my subject said, wake up. Do you (Israeli) really think you can live in peace with the strategies your regimes have used so far? You should have realized by now that agressive actions (rightfull or not) will never ever provide you stability and peace. You are misslead, by what ever greater goal your leaders try to achive for them or their allies. Your life and that of the ones you love is risked by old men who want you to believe they have your best interest in mind. Only a politic of dialog, compromisses and most important forgiveness can bring peace. That might mean tiny losses on the politcal map and to the pride in the "now" but it would mean a huge win for the future of and those who come. I hope for you and the whole area of the ME that this insight pushes through, one day.
How many times you said that this week Israel will take the south of lebanon until the Litani...they couldent take one only village yet! You don't want ceassfire untill killing the rest of children in Lebanon and the rest og IDF soldiers on the south lebanon? Hizbullah is the winner already! stop arrogancy and lies! Israel lost already 732 Soldiers! wake up....Olmert is playing a dirty game and he burned his soldiers, his economy and the only childreana nd civilian in Lebanon!
You say "Israel is sowing another generation of hatred for Israel" in Lebanon. Israel never bombed Morocco or Pakistan or Iran for that matter yet it is universally hated in all of these (and virtually all muslim) countries. According to the Pew foundation poll 95-99% (depending on the country) of residents of the muslim countries have very unfavorable opinion of the Jews. Now, that's what I call collective insanity! Do you have an explanation for that? Do you think it has anything to do with Israel? Or maybe with the fact that Quran and the traditional accounts of the life of Muhammad are replete with exressions of hatred against the Jews?
Everyone keeps blaming Iran and Syria for arming Hizballah. I totally agree with you all on this, but then why are we bombing Lebanon alone. Why? Because all the zionist's in Israel, USA and the world over are fcukn COWARDS. We should be hitting Tehran and Damascus, but striking them would cause a definate response that will hurt the Zionist state tremendously. No doubt the zionist nation will win and defeat both Iran and Syria, but the price in "jewish blood" we pay would be too high, so what does a bully do in the school yard? He picks on the kid that cannot fight back. Until one day........shame, shame, shame... P.S. - Why do we have nuclear missiles with designated target co-ordinates on 13 sites on our "friends" backyard? Who? USA, yes, USA. People are talking about kind of monster the zionists in America have created. Frankenstein, should be the zionist nations name, and not Israel. Shame on the zionist's for their use of the name Israel.
Brigitte, sugar, you seem to be so taken by this man's charms, why don't you move to Iran? I am sure you if for some reason you HAD TO chose between living in Israel or in Iran you would have chosen Iran. What a lovely place! Such intellingent and handsome president!
What if Ahmadinejad's statement was right? The IDF appeared to share his view when they bombed a UN post, fleeing civilians, ambulances and a building filled with refugees. These are not errors, but deliberate actions to force the world to impose immediate ceasefire, to stop a misbegotten war based on crime. It would have meant the end of this Israeli government and of Israel. It would have had to return all occupied territories, with or without the people now living there which would have forced integration of the region. People are not each others ennemies, PM's are. The real problem is Israel's elitism which despises Arabs; they own the oil. The IDF agreed with Ahmadinejad. End Israel for greater Palestine and live. Ahmadinejad showed more insight in most of his statements than the western governments. But elitism despises all others as barbarians, for oil, money and power. Not exactly progressive. Rightfully, Bush, Blair and Olmert should be tried for war crimes, not Ahmadinejad.
In your dreams only. Arabs would not rest until the total destruction of Israel and all Jews slaughtered and swept into the sea. and I believe its yours and your likes dream too. So, its one of the two, and its not the Jews who are going to leave their homeland. You better get used to the reality on the groiund and this planet that the Jews are here to stay for eternity. Apparently you are from another planet or on some kind of medication as you are hallucinating babe.
Jews killing Arabs - doesn't work Arabs killing Jews - doesn't work How about this...Israel pulls back to pre-1967 borders - NO EXCEPTIONS. US provides equal foreign aid $$$ to Israel, Lebanon, AND Palestine. Any further resistance, terrorism, etc. against Israel is met by combined forces from all three places. Listen, I know this is a pipe dream, but hey, why not try it?
Bor, baby! First of all just because you studied some math does not make you smart, nor does it teach you logical thinking. 2. I forgot more math than you ever knew. 3. You need to study history, pal, and check your facts. Neither Al Khwarizmi nor Khayyam were arabs, and it is not clear at this distance to what extent they were muslims. 4. You need to read the entire chain of messages to understand the context in which statements are made. My point was that just because some imortant intellectual developments happened in the islamic countries 1000 years ago not much has happened there since and muslims have been nothing but free-loaders in the modern world. I would go further and say that if it weren't for their oil they would get no more attention by the rest of the world than say Burma does. Finally, there is no need to be condescending, you are not the only one here who can read and write. Bisous
...the war will radicalize moderate muslims..." ..."defensive offensive, not a war in the usual sense." Thanks for trying elaborate and understand muslims from, I assumed, the other side of the FENCE. However, US and Israel don't realize yet what price they are going to pay for this war: it doesn't always mean in the sense of violence conflict. The collective sense of impotence among muslims will be manifested in many ways: REJECTION and INTOLERANCE to the WEST are among others. The LINE has being drawn these days, for long lasting impact.
We both agree on one thing: NO CEASEFIRE Here are the conditions: 1- ISRAEL LEAVES SHABA FARMS 2- ISRAEL WITHDRAWS FROM WEST BANK, GAZA, AND GOLAN 3- ISRAEL RETURNS LEBANESE/PALESTINIAN PRISONERS 4- ISRAEL HANDS MINE MAPS TO LEBANON 5- THE ZIONIST REGIME IS DISMANTLED THEN the Jews can enjoy a cosy ceasefire.
is that if his dream came true, he would turn his anger on the Shias who do not agree with him, the Sunnis, the Christians... Then the subdivisions of these categories would all start fighting each other to allow him to deal with Spain. My dream is that Ahmedinejad changes dreams. How about peace, respect and prosperity for the Middle East?
""Anyway, when it come to fight against Israel, every single muslims will be united. Every disputes among muslims was dwarfed by Qana massacre. No other UNITING factor in this world that was more efective for Muslims than Israel aggressions. Nabih Berri, Jumlad, Nasrallah, King Abdullah, Ahmadinejad, you name it. STOP WISHFUL THINKING, Sam, my Orthodox Jews friend."" Two days ago two bombs exploded on a football ground in Baghdad killing 19 Shiites 16 of whom kids between 9 and 16 years old.Does this atrocity unite all Muslims too Indrajaya? Why aren't Muslims worldwide outraged by such atrocities?
...the Shiites are losing and the Druze and the Sunni Arabs want Israel to finish the job... (Sam) Not that I unintended to respond to you, but Haaretz didn't publish some of my respond to you Sam (inclusing in the other topics too). Anyway, when it come to fight against Israel, every single muslims will be united. Every disputes among muslims was dwarfed by Qana massacre. No other UNITING factor in this world that was more efective for Muslims than Israel aggressions. Nabih Berri, Jumlad, Nasrallah, King Abdullah, Ahmadinejad, you name it. STOP WISHFUL THINKING, Sam, my Orthodox Jews friend.
the majority is always right. Is that: the majority is always wrong? How confusing.
believing is what you do in god, not in facts.
Want an end to the wars? Overthrow the dictators in the region(aka Assad and Ahmadinejad and lets face it Nasrallah) then, the West needs to lose their dependency on oil and we can tell Iran, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia to kiss off!
no postings to defend ahmaghnejad by Sullivan and Lincoln????
then the world will be free and safe for us to get rid of the Shiites.
Dear all, here is an analysis from Johan Galtung the peace scholar on the conflict and some proposals. It was a bit lengthy for posting here, so here is the URL: http://baljit.googlepages.com/JohanGaltung.html I think it makes sense. Baljit
The Indonesian president's statement that the war will radicalize moderate muslims and take us a step away from a clash of civilizations is partially right. The war probably will radicalize moderate muslims but we've already witnessed the clash of civilizations with 9/11, the madrid bombings, the bombings in India, the bombings in England, the Bali massacre, the embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya etc. A quote from Dr. Irshad Arshed on an islamic website: "The very name “Islam” means PEACE.....Islam seeks global peace. But vested interests place hurdles in this way. So Islam has to fight to remove these hurdles. It is a sort of defensive offensive, not a war in the usual sense."
""I wish we could trade Presidents with Iran." He`d have my vote. But what party`s banner would he run under?"" I think you should migrate to Iran.Both you and Horst.It would be the fulfilment of your dream and ours. You may learn a few things which may clip your "ubermensch" wings for a change.Maybe you should offer yourself as basij for martyrdom for your great ideals
What Solidality? 17 out of 56 members country attended. How phatetic. There goes that big mouth again calling for Israel destruction. This war between Israel and Lebanon ,thanks to this crazy man,Ahmedinijed who thinks that he is God.
"When will there be peace?" There will be peace when Israelis stop killing Palestinians and return their land. Only then will Israel cease to be seen as a cancer in the body that is the Middle East.
The best thing is for iran to give shelter to the gaza palestinians if only for a few years and declare a ceasefire with israel
"I wonder which President you would rather live under?" You're asking to choose between a rock and a hard place. Apparently you have been missing out on a lot of news on US behaviour: (1) CIA torture camps in Eastern Europe; (2) CIA abducting even citizens of US allies; (3) Echelon monitoring phone calls; (4) NSA monitoring international banking; (5) NSA wiretapping on US citizens; (6) Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, Bagram. Should I go on? I feel much more threatened already right now for just expressing my views by the US than by Iran. And Bush is not the first US pres. I feel uneasy with handling the red button. Remember what Reagan said when testing the mike?
Even people who rejected his idea of eliminating Israel when he mentioned it at the first time, after this Lebanon assault they are beginning to see the point that Ahmadinejad was trying to make in the first place.
Please this talk about how 56 countries want to destroy Israel is stupid. Not even Syria or Iran are actually pursuing any kind of military action against Israel, the truth is the leaders of these countries think of thei countries and not about the Palestinian cause or about Arab occupied territory. This is all lip service, especially Ahmedinajad.
Israelis and Arabs are the same race so stop talking about Arab anti-semitism. Replace with anti-judaism, anti-zionism or anti-israeli.
Forget about taking out the reactors, how about using a "tactical nuclear device" on Iran. Notify, and give the citizens a week to clear out. Then turn Tehran into an ashtray. That's what they'd do to israel, given the chance.
Are you sure about what's going on Planet Earth ??? I was reading this link and take note of it... http://www.abundanthope.net/mb1a/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=2 Peace have to come quickly!
Here they are jumping on the bandwagon.Destroy Israel,kill the Jews.They're alway been there sniffing around,waiting for the best time throw up their racist,bigoted,putrid vomit and Ha'aretz is obliging publishing their rantings.
Palastanian parents crying for their children because they are not receiving pay check. THe Pal parents danced in the street celebrating the death of their children THey got pay check when their child killed Jews and got killed, THe Lebanon men ran so fast they left their wives, children and elderly behind .They became human shields. THe Lebanese men killed their children not Israel The MUslims dont care who they kill as long as they kill
jews are like any other religion , good followers and bad folowers , but dont dare to tell me israel is jewish state . israel came alive in 1948 and gained recognition from USA on the sopt , then the name turned from palestine ( occupied territory ) to state of israel now who are thoses israelites . most of them are immgrants from russia and europe who thought jews were prosecuted and killed by haters like Hitler , so they decided to find a new home for them , no place is better than holly land since jewdism is a holly religon . jews who decided to move to palestine and take it were called the zionist movement that with aid from britain in early 1900 and blessing of USA after the zionist moved to palestine conspired with some stupid arab leaders to gain land . so israel is state found on blood and will ever be but not all jews are israelites some jews reject that concept of stealing some one else land by force and cry why the arab resist and why arab hate us ?
and so are all the people who try to defend him.
Yes, Cipora, I think my posts are eminently worthy of publication by haaretz. I only lament that all of them have not been published.
that the Zionist Israeli regime should be eliminated, i.e. dissolved or melded into greater Palestine- absolutely! And I also agree with him that: "the Jews have the right to live a life of prosperity, freedom, and security." But not the right to live that "life" under the banner of a state messianic entity. And there are many Torah Jews who will agree with me on that.
"I wish we could trade Presidents with Iran." He'd have my vote. But what party's banner would he run under?
we are waiting for this clown to try to drop some bombs...so that the porphecy's of the Moshiach will be full filled
Those who don't believe that Islamofascizm really exists, - can read his message. The so called 'Pacifists' don't condemn Iran. They don'y notice Daryoush Shirazi. They condemn Israel.
Islam has been proved again and again thet it is a religion of terrorists.Show me where in the world are there any religion casing such trouble. regards:John from Cairns,Australia
Notice that Ahmadinjad said that the solution was the 'elimination of the Zionist regime' not the 'destruction of the state of Israel'. Sure, if Israel decides to define its own existance according to the racist, xenophobic, elitist principles which are the foundations of Zionism then yes, the state of Israel would have to be destroyed according to the Iranian Pres. But there's definitely a place in this world for a tolerant, modest, compassionate Israel that is willing to treat other nations, religions and races as equals. It all starts with compassion, a word that most Israelis and Arabs have long forgotten. When you vilify your enemies, depict them as pure evil and see no shred of humanity in them, then you're well on your way down the slippery slope of hatred. I'm afraid we've been tumbling down this slope for the last 60 or so years and I see things getting much worse before they get any better... it often takes a catastrophe for a fundamental shift in attitudes to occur.
What in Gods name are you talking about? If you have read the headline it saids "Ahmadinejad's call to destroy Israel" So let's not talk about your Smurfs Cartoons!!!
looking back in hindsight doesn't usually take into consideration hindsight for other possible options that could have been taken. With that being said, I still feel that using the prisoners in hand and throwing the ransom back in their faces was a better option. I know you all found it radical, but I didn't want to go into gaza or lebanon. There isn't any half-way measure when going in like this and the arabs feel that Israel won't go all the way with them. I'm beginning to fear that Israel will be pushed to that point this time around, it's been getting closer and closer, too many years of attempted entanglement, and an Israeli population that is just plain fed up.
Hey Mike... YOU AND WHAT ARMY??? Canada has never helped anybody but let terrorist live in your country and let all the gays roam your land!!! Canada should be blessed that they have a neighbor that will die for you guys!!!
It is amazing that you fail to realize that close to three thousand lethal missiles have been fired into Israel; that hundreds of thousand of people have been displaced from a third of the country, or else live in fetid shelters; that an entire generation of Israeli children will grow up traumatized; that all of this was caused by the insane ambition of a few men who cannot accept the existence of Israel and who want her to disappear for good; and what is most amazing is that there are people like you who do not see beyond the horizon and the gathering storm. There have always been people like you, and there will always be people, simple people, who will stand their ground, and if necessary make the ultimate sacrifice.
"A fact America and Israel must understand is that as long as there is aggression and occupation there will be resistance and popular support for the resistance," the monarch King Abdulla said. Wise advise from a friend. Undoubtedly will be ignored because of faith in war making is blinding the leaders with arrogance.
He will cure you and others like you of your antisemitic prejudices. Here is what your "hero" has said on Iranian TV on 24 April this year: ""Although they claim that their hearts bleed for the Jews, during World War II and following it they caused the widespread phenomenon of anti-Judaism in two or three European countries. If you support the Jews - how do you explain this anti-Judaism? Why did you turn Europe in its entirety into a place unsafe for the Jews? Could there possibly be another reason than creating unsafe conditions for the Jews, so they would flee and find shelter in Palestine? Allow these people to decide freely, and you will see that they will return to their homelands. Of course, you must first let go of your anti-Judaism. You must let go of it. We believe that just like the rest of mankind, the Jews have the right to live a life of prosperity, freedom, and security. Set them free, and let them return to their homelands." Still your hero hey
This Armadinejad makes me sick. How can a person be so blinded by hatred? May the GOOD LORD have pity on your soul. Would you please craw back under the rock from whence you came!
Here is what Ahmadinajad said on Iranian TV on 24 April this year. ""Although they claim that their hearts bleed for the Jews, during World War II and following it they caused the widespread phenomenon of anti-Judaism in two or three European countries. If you support the Jews - how do you explain this anti-Judaism? Why did you turn Europe in its entirety into a place unsafe for the Jews? Could there possibly be another reason than creating unsafe conditions for the Jews, so they would flee and find shelter in Palestine? Of course, you must first let go of your anti-Judaism. You must let go of it. We believe that just like the rest of mankind, the Jews have the right to live a life of prosperity, freedom, and security. Set them free, and let them return to their homelands."" Are you sure you still agree 100% with Ahmadinajad?
the concept of creating 'Israel' by the use of force and violence, by stealing the Arabs? lands and killing Palestinians"
people and positions both Olmy & Almy should go mano y mano on pay per view. Almy already got the nukes so bunker busters will go down as one of the most overrated weapons. The Arrow doesn't work on a truck so that was a waste of time and trouble. Don't go to to wall and beat your head with little prayers, take a bulldozer to it and invite everyone to the party.
#280 you got lots to learn - Such a lost mind - what a waste- you could sound so much better if you just went to history school. or maybe that was the class you skipped. you will see what this was all about soon. but you wont be here when you finally get it.
This will affect non-Jews as well, NO DOUBT! There is no discrimination as to who they will kill. SYDNEY (AFP) - The Australian government said it was investigating a claim that hundreds of Southeast Asian suicide bombers had been deployed to attack Jewish interests in countries that support Israel. The claim was made by the leader of the radical Jakarta-based Asian Muslim Youth Movement (AMYM), Suaib Bidu, The Australian newspaper reported. Bidu warned that thousands more militants were preparing to die as martyrs in revenge attacks over Israel's military operations against Lebanon's Hezbollah militia, The Australian said. He warned that attacks would be launched against Jewish targets in countries such as Britain, the United States and possibly Australia.
putting down the weapons wouldn't solve the problem...the weapons is only a manifestation of a deeper problem which must be solved first and then they'll be no need for them
What an interesting thread. Several posters recommend a Final Solution to the conflict with the Muslim world in the nature of killing all Muslims. Most don't recognize that the basic strategy of collective punishment on a civilian population is immoral -- and has as the only certain consequence the long-term hatred of virtually all Lebanese against Israel. Most fail to recognize that the destruction in Lebanon, the killing of hundreds and the maiming of thousands is sowing another generation of hatred for Israel, including amongst non-Shiite Lebanese who previously had no beef with Israel. It is amazing to me that people are failing to realize that the long-term survival of Israel is harmed, not helped, by this exercise in savagery. Amazing, too, that only a few decades after Guernica, people have come to think that dropping explosives onto civilian targets is perfectly normal and reasonable. Amazing.
You are right that Ahmadinejad is on the side of the angels--with one ommission on your part--it's the fallen angels....
The nutcase president of Iran has made similar statements. Good for France! I may ease my personal boycott of French goods.
There is no need for a trdae you can simply pack up and move to Iran. With a name like Horst you will be exist well in Tehran.
Please quit talking about a ceasefire, It is crystal clear that this is WW3, so let it began and quit fooling people into a false sense of security. There will nevere peace until israel gets wiped off the map in the near future. they shouldn't be in these peoples land and never should of been there. they are puppets for our oil, and we are addicts. Israel will be gone and I will have to ride a bike to work, oh well. this is the truth so quit cramming this ceasefire crap down my throat!
Avery few of those brilliant thinkers are in the shmatte business. All of the others are hiding behind, or under, desks, with the few exceptions of those no longer with us.
The Middle East has rarely been at peace or stable. Along with the fact that it is important to three major world religions, it is the cross roads between Africe, Asia, and Europe. Moreover, it is near many countries that have vast oil reserves. Face it, despite what you think, Jews just aren't that special.
The Jews and the Arabs are cousins! This is a fact. The common Jew is not a soldier. He is not a warrior. He is not a knight. The common hunched, humped, awkward-looking, hog-faced Jew is neither chivalrous nor courageous. He fights unarmed civilians with heavy military equipment given to them by the Jewish Lobby in the U.S. and paid for by stupid Arab countries! It was a great tragedy the Cyrus the Great Aryan Iranian rescued them in 539 B.C. Now the Aryan Iranians are feeling the pinch of these same sub-humans whom they rescued since it is these same Jews who toppled the Shah of Iran through the American idiots.
MUSLIM PEACEKEEPERS? This is the ultimate oxymoron.
The President of Iran called for the destruction of Israel. Well, he will not have to lift a finger,Olmert is doing that for him. With Olmerts plan for Convergence or Re-alignment, whatever, he is doing just what the president of Iran wants, the destruction of Israel.
Are you so filled with hate for Jews, that you forget how many Irish Firefighters were killed by your friends on 9/11 Look in your mirror. Shame!
He has pulled Israel in with him with the capturing of the soldiers routine. He doesnt care about Israel,that is just a red herring,a rallying point for his revolution. What he wants to do is rule the muslim world at the grass roots and overturn the Saudi regime and make oil like diamonds. The Hizbullah ploy worked well. Very few Iranian dead if any. Israel up to their necks in mud. Nasrallah a saint. And a widening conflict for Bush. Where are all those smart western thinkers when you need them?
This has probably already been pointed out, but just in case... If Mahmoud I'm-a-need-a-shot (yes he does)believes that the destruction of Israel is the only way to ensure peace, but is calling for a cease fire at this time, then it can only mean that the Iranian surrogates in Lebanon are getting their pervert arses kicked by Israel, and their is no hope of fulfilling his goal for the moment.
Horst no trade is need you simply need to move to Iran. With a name like Horst you should live a very happy life in Tehran.
As they march forward to eliminate the Zionist entity from the south using the "worlds best commados."
Would you care to tell us what elimination of the zionist regime means? You present it as such proper logical expectation, but what would you actually like to do and how would you like to do it? Tell us, this is your chance to tell us all about your wet dream.
My sympathies are with the Lebanese that are victims of Hizballahs unilateral attacks on the citizens of Israel. This is sadly a war that has been brought upon you by people that are not acting democratically or with the total approval of all Lebanese citizens and its government. If on the other hand you all support Hizballah, well you brought this upon yourselves. Israel is on hit and destroy missions getting people to leave, destroying missile bases, Hizballah infrastructure and moving on. They do not want to "occupy" Lebanon as this proved to be catastrophic in the past. The world needs to step in and insure that the Lebanese can act for themselves. If they want war with Israel, well they have it. Good Luck!!
The biggest threat to world peace is that idiots are allowed to express their moronic opinions on websites. These websites are easily read by other morons that all agree on the same stupid principles. These morons all have a lack of intelligence and a lack of education and can have their opinions easily twisted in a very negative way.
you are in the middle of a war, but it seems you do not realize it.
It is getting pretty scary out there!! Ahmanidiot yet again calls for Israels destruction. The Association of Muslim Extremists has an emergency meeting to decide which one their leaders is going to blow themselves up. They want to send a force to peacekeep in Lebanon??? Sending Robbers to the Bank Vault??? Give back the West Bank, Gaza, give the "refugees money". O.K. thats all done. Now you will have peace??? NO!! You will have Iran armed with nukes, they and the Palestinians will overrun Jordan and kill the monarchy. The Islamic brotherhood will take over Egypt. Hizballah will assassinate Assad and take over Syria. The Shia leaders of Iraq will join all of the above to attack and finish off Israel. This will be a fact not a fiction so this is a war for survival and a clear clear message. Israel sadly has not fought this war smart, they have fought it with rules when the enemy doesn't!!
He is a man that express his point of view direcly. I supose he is the real voice of Hizbola. This is the desire of palestinian liders: to destroy Israel (and the jews.
Horst your comments are just typical of your name. No more to be said about you. Ahmanidiot is THE reason that Israel needs to stay the course and wipe out all the Hizballah. If need be, sadly the collaborators that help them as well. That may be "civilians" but people that let murderers into their homes to setup missile launchers are hardly civilians. The kidnapped soldiers have become a very very secondary issue. This war has unearthed the very dangerous precedent of having these bastards armed to the teeth for the past 6 years. The UN is to blame and as such should help Israel finish what 1559 should have done. In the absence of doing that, they should create a REAL force that will kill these bastards if they so much as burp. Interestingly nobody on any forum comments about the hell rained down on Israel every single day by Ahmanidiot and his Mickey Islamic Nutjob club. Israel needs to start getting more aggressive!!!! GO GO GO!!!!
What a blaze frame of mind. Only yesterday Blazy called Iran a stabilizing factor in the Middle East!
From Math to Math enthusiast: Is this statement mathematically clear enough? Quiz: Which President said that?
Bor de Wolf, don't forget the Indians contribution to the development of mathematics. This was widely recognised by many. The Arab name for mathematics was "hindisat", with "hindi" meaning Indian, and "sat" meaning science.
my my ! how outraged by Ahmedinejad's prophecy about Israel's elimination from the Middle East. c'mon guys they are doomed to lose. 'cauz they got no roots there except some thousand years old wall claimed to be belonging to the temple of Salamon once. Jewih people will go as they came like the Crusaders who stayed roughly about a hundred years in OUR territories. fifty years gone. so the count down has started eh?
Tom, just curious - have you ever read a history book? Granting Israel a state goes back before Hitler. It is also appauling that you as an american should say that. What was the US doing while Hitler was rounding up and killing Jews? Do you really think that the Arab states truly care about the Palestinians? WAKE UP AND SMELL THE HOKA. Stop being so self rightious. The civilian deaths are for sure very sad, but when Hizbollah decides to set up a launch pad in your back yard, it's time to leave and shut down the block party!! Let's not forget that Israel has hurt civilians by error. Hamas and Hizbollah are targeting civilians. Stop condemming this idiot - TAKE him out. The population of Iran would be more than happy.
After listening to the repeated calls by the Iranian president for Israel's destruction, I feel a statement by the U.N. condemning this would-be genocidal maniac would be in order, and more importantly, a statement by the U.S. that to the contrary, a key solution to world terrorism would be the elimination of Ahmadinejad and his terrorist cronies worldwide.
We (the USA, Israel, free world) are the dumb ones. At least the new hitler speaks his mind openly. As a young Black man, I have always preferred to deal transparently with anyone with malice towards me (e.g. an open racist vs. the smile in your face KKK by night types). This guy is inspired through religious ideology to do violence to Israel, and so I ask what is the Mossad waiting for to take this guy out...say on his next trip from east Asia? Even a few F-15s scattered to execute this madman over the Pacific Ocean.... It is so sad to watch as we allow his threat ability to mature while he can't even conceal his passion for the removal of the true Light in the mideast...........does Israel enjoy the whipping rod? G-d forbid! Bless Israel.
It's quite amazing to see the Arab countries in the Middle East intimidated by the small nation of Israel. Ahmadinejad is nothing more than a loud barking dog. In time he will be muzzled then destroyed. His 15 minutes of fame are just about up.
FOR THE IGNORANT LIKE TOM AND "MAD IN THE HEAD" THE SAN REMO CONFERENCE OF 1920 SET OUT THE JEWISH HOMELAND LATER RATIFIED BY THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS IN 1922 THE UN IN 1947 MERELY CONFIRMED AJEWISH HOMELAND WHICH HAD ALREADY EXISTED FOR 27 YEARS JORDAN IS 78% OF THAT HOMELAND OCCUPIED BY ARABS
I wish we could trade Presidents with Iran.
The middle east has never stabled since the formation of Israel state, so what was said is right the real problem of the middle east is Israel. Israel should pack up on the double and be relocated somewhere in Europe before it is too late, An Africa was one of the option given to Bin Gorion to form the state by the Eouropian.
The "elimination of the Zionist regime" is absolutely necessary. Why is it not OK for Ahmadinejad to say this? Israel says it all the time about the Iranian regime. Three cheers for Ahmadinejad. He is on the side of the Angels in this one.
So you compare Ahmadinejad to President Bush as though there were some moral equivalence. I wonder which President you would rather live under? Your equivalence shows a total lack of understanding of the world we live. To you, anything the US does is wrong and you provide excuses for those who openly state they wish to eliminate jews. One wonders how you will feel with a nuclear armed Iran with a missile range to hit Germany.
It is comforting to know as an American to have friends such as the British and Israelis. They both have shared intelligence, material and support with us the United States, as we have with both Great Britain and Israel. This relationship between us three countries was formed over a long time and is as strong a bond than you will find in the entire world. I am proud to call the Brits and Israeli OUR friends, for when the chips are down and the going gets tough, they will help as always. One day the terrorists will have to deal with the Big Three all at once. In the meantime they will deal with us separately but united and resolutely. They are doomed, and if another crusade occurs, it will be a self-inflicted muslim demise.
Yes Leo, the Arabs and Persians have highly contributed to math. Math is not one invention, it is a string of inventions from the Babylonian cuneiforms telling how to solve quadratic equations to Turing's notion of computability and further. I studied math. Did you? Guess not. So trust me or do at least some research. People like Al-Kwarizmi and Omar Khayyam and a whole school around them contributed to math. Omar Khayyam was the first to solve the cubic equation - do you even know what that is?
MAD IN THE HEAD IS AT LEAST HONST ABOUT IT !! ALL THE OTHER MUSLIMS MOUTH PLATITUDES AND CONDEMN ISRAEL IN EVERY WAY.
Mr. President: It's too late for that now, but you are right: it should never have happened. Arabs should not have paid for Hitler's crimes.
When is the world going to learn that Islamofascists mean what they say. When Ahmadinejad says Israel must be wiped off the map, is there really any room for a different interpretation? At some point, western nations will have to realize that we have been in a war for the past 20 years but simply failed to notice it. The Islamofascists always give some grievance for their actions. Appease one grievance and another will follow. These are simply disguises to keep western civilians clammering to keep the peace so the Islamofascists can continue to kill with relative impunity.
When reading what Ahmadinejad actually said, he only calls for regime change in Israel. So let's compare him with the other big regime change proponent, Dubya. (1) both came to power in highly criticized "democratic" elections (think Diebold). (2) both are religious fanatics. (3) Bush actually has a huge arsenal of (ABC) weapons and uses them. (4) Bush actually has pursued regime change and see the consequences. So where's the biggest threat to world peace?
When the Nazis sent rockets to fall on England, England responded military and with force, right? They bombed factories that were near schools. It was tragic, but England had to defend its national security. Just go ahead and continue to overlook historical events for Israel, such as being invaded multiple times by the armies of every country surrounding it. Someone either not from Israel or someone who takes the time to try to understand the current situation will consistently sound just as ignorant and foolhardy as you.
South Africans are NOT living in peace- you have no idea what you are talking about. The definition for Zionism is: "A Jewish movement that arose in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Semitism and sought to reestablish a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state of Israel." The definition for Apartheid is: "An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, involving political, legal, and economic discrimination against nonwhites." BIG DIFFERENCE. The Jews will no more live in Peace while they have missiles launched at them than the Lebanese will while Hezbollah acts within their communities.
You say "Alphabet, astronomy, math, architecture, nice carpets". I will grant you carpets, even Persian miniatures, maybe architecture. Math? Astronomy? Those were Greek inventions (at least as far as the Arabs where concerned) Alphabet? Have you ever heard of the Phoenicians? Where do you get this information? Do they teach you anything in school in Canada?
and i suppose that it was because of isreal that iran and iraq had a 9 year or something war in which over a million muslims killed each other
Israel has something the terrorists dont, use it! And while your there nuke that golden dome piece of Arab trash!!!!!!
And he isn't calling for Israel to be "destroyed," but rather for its government to be replaced, a la South Africa, with a multiracial democracy. And he's right. As long as there are Zionists, they will murder people. 1948, 1956, 1982, 1996, 2006. It's what you do. Besides ignoring that crucial distinction, the criticism ignores that Ahmadinejad is saying we can't fix the root cause (Israel's racist regime) right now, and the best we can hope for is an immediate ceasefire. This is the responsible position shared by most of the world. Israel, a racist apartheid state, is at war with two democracies -- the Hamas government and Lebanon's. Only when Jews learn about democracy and come to accept it can there be a true, lasting peace.
You are absolutely right. With whom should Israel negotiate? A neighboring state? OK. A terrorist group posing as a state? NEVER!
Give what back? If Arab states start a war (like 1967) and lose land in that war, then that land is LOST. GONE. You don't get it back! They screwed up, they lost! I hope Israel doesn't return a square centimeter. If so, then the U.S. should return Texas and New Mexico to Mexico. It ain't happening!
while the majority of the intellectual world scoffs at this 'leader' and dismiss him as a madman, there are serious undertones to his rhetoric. hitler was also dismissed as a harmless madman in 1933. 'little big-mouth' should be targeted for liquidation as soon as possible.
RE:The elitists in France, Russia, China, Spain and other contries will eventually wake up. Maybe so, but as usual it will be too late (for them)
the french FM, Douste-Blazy, is an ignorant idiot. Everybody knows it in France. He is constantly followed by a damage control team as his goofes are frequent. The real question is Why is he french FM? See www.primo-europe.org
Not anti-semitic 'till Israel happened? The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem spent WW11 in Hitler's bunker and wrote him a letter asking for details to use 'their scientific methods' to dispose of the jews in Palestine! Say no more on this..
a pacifists is one who will have peace if they have to kill to have it. Too many argue that the cause of the strife is based in religious differences, so maybe our dollars would best be spent in educating the masses about scientific proof of evolution. DNA evidence espouses the belief that all life on Earth has a common origin. There is little doubt in the scientific community that Intelligent Design is a myth which is not based upon good science. Religions obviously are based upon the attempt by early humans to explain our existance although they lacked the scientific understanding we now have. My personal opinion is that peace can best be obtained if we of the USA were to make sure that the whole of the Mid-East had ready NUKE's and that each of them were set to be deployed simultaneously. True that the Israeli territory would become the largest crater, but it would give us a place to send the illegal immigrants which cross our borders to.
alan you are so brave in sydney. why dont you come and help us?
He was so right to pin point the real problem of the middle east. Israel should pack up on the double and be relocated somewhere in Europe before it is too late...........
The only way this conflict will end between Israel and Hezballah is for Iran and possibly Syria to stop supplying them with weapons, this would also apply to Israel. Since when is Ahmadinejad a god, calling for the destuction of Israel. When so much hatred is shown toward Israel, then it's hypocritical to call it a holy war. This is not about defending one's God, but it's an attack on those who have a different way of life, then theirs, which is threatening to them. Put simply, stop supplying opposing sides with weapons, have them run out. In my opinion, the greatest sacrifice one can make is to give up the land. For the rewards would be far more valuable in the kingdom of heaven then any earthly possessions. Doing a good deed remains in your heart, killing someone goes against God's laws as well as man's laws. Will anyone be held accountable, where is there justice? When will there be peace?
Iranian president would do well to read the ancient writings of the prophet David (peace be upon him) from psalm 83 in the book. O God, do not keep silent; be not quiet, O God, be not still. See how your enemies are astir, how your foes rear their heads. With cunning they conspire against your people; they plot against those you cherish. "Come," they say, "let us destroy them as a nation, that the name of Israel be remembered no more." With one mind they plot together; they form an alliance against you?. ?make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb, all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna, who said, "Let us take possession of the pasturelands of God." Make them like tumbleweed, O my God, like chaff before the wind. As fire consumes the forest or a flame sets the mountains ablaze, so pursue them with your tempest and terrify them with your storm. Cover their faces with shame so that men will seek your name, O LORD. May they ever be ashamed and dismayed; may they perish in disgrace
Nicole: "Mr. Ahmadinejad is right" - He already exterminated the Bahai Religion in Iran, enslaved all Iranian females and sent 50,000 teenagers to clear the Iraqi mine fields, providing them only with cheap Taiwan made "Keys to Heaven" on their necks. They all died as Shahids. Real adorable.
We are dealing with a clerical middle ages goverment in Iran. Any system of governance that has at its apex supposed divine revelation & authority is stupid and bad. The elites crass exploitation of a perfectly legitimate theology is what is at work. Evolution and progress continue, but that areas of the world lag 500 years behind in political thought is staggering. Its a dangerous 3 dimensional chess game when such powers steal 21st century weaponry. Muslim theocracies need to wake up and relieve themselves of their true oppressors.
Myles: "Islam wasn`t anti-Jewish until Israel was established." So how come todays anti-Jewish slogans are straight quotes from the Koran? From "pigs" to "monsters" to "kill them"? And the Yellow Star and the Jewish Ghetto were invented 1000 years ago in Morocco.
The battle between Israel and Hezbollah is just one ongoing fight between the Western and Muslim world. This is World War III, and it will not be over until one side capitulates. My fear is that the repression of Islam will continue to win the battles unless the entire western world decides to fight and overcome the centers of terror such as Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and other hard-line Muslim theocracies. The elitists in France, Russia, China, Spain and other contries will eventually wake up.
Don't worry Christel, This Iranian idiot will be gone soon. The more he talks the more angry we will all get until him and his buddies disappear from the face of the earth. Tim
What are you saying?!? That Israel should just relinquish all control of Jerusalem for ever? That Zionism alone is to blame for the Muslims actions? Jews have a right to believe what they want, just as the Muslims do. It is when the Muslims think that they should control all of the Middle East that problems happen. YOU CANNOT FORCE PEOPLE TO GIVE UP THEIR RELIGION!
The UN has failed at just about every project they have ever attempted since 1947. The first major failure was the Israeli-Palestinian conflict including the current war going on now. If the UN had made sure that 1559 was completed and Hezbollah disarmed, this war would not be taking place. The UN had 17 resolutions on Iraq and Saddam Hussein and didn't have the guts enough to follow through on those. As usual, it had to be the USA, Britain, and a coalition of other nations to take action and enforce what was voted on. Rwanda was a MAJOR FAILURE as well as the current situation in Sudan. I guess it's OK with the UN for barbarian Muslim tribes to attack, kill, rape and pilage Christian people and villages. Sure, they may occasionally be competent at providing food aid etc, but don't count on them to be fair and solve any major conflict. They don't even believe that Hezbollah is a terrorist group! Israel is doing the job the UN should be doing and I pray for their success!
So: "Islam wasn`t anti- jewish until Israel was established. Hold up a mirroir." You're kidding, right? Tell me you are kidding. Unless you don't think references to Jews as "apes" or other animals in the Quran, treatment of an entire people that was distinctly second class at best and at worst, erupted periodically into violence and rapine taxation, forcing people to take "unclean" jobs - wasn't anti-Jewish? These are conditions of dhimmitude under Islam. Islam IS antiJewish in many ways and it's something that needs to be examined within the Muslim community. It's a key to the whole problem. There is "tolerance" but no real acceptance of "infidels" as equals, self-governing equals, let alone within what some perceive as the sacred waqf. And historical revisionism, robbing Jews of their very history, is another dreadful aspect of this syndrome.
All the French know how to do is talk. They run away from everything and have the rest of the world wipe their ass. OOOoooooh!! I'm worried about what the FRENCH think. LOL!!!
never trust the french politicians
It sure is comforting knowing that the French condemn Ahmadinejad's call to destroy Israel. Now that the French have stepped in, I'm sure we can solve this whole thing in short order!
It's savage and liable to harm you more than it harms others. Mad dogs always turn on their owners in the end
Just wipe themfromthe face of the eart and anyone else who can't go along with the peace process. So freaking easy. One day there is all this stupididty and noise making and then the next it becomes real quiet. Then the rebuilding begins and people are to busy to create violence.
"I never thought I would have to defend the Iranian president but you obviously need some help in understanding something here." Someone obviously needs help understanding "Destroying a REGIME has nothing to do with destroying a STATE." He HAS called for the destruction of Israel, more than once!! NOT the "regime", the STATE!! "I for one would quite welcome the current warmongering REGIME in Israel to be removed, but I would certainly not want the STATE of Israel to be destroyed." Doesn't it just suck when they won't roll over and play dead when their solders are kidnapped and killed and when rockets line their northern boarder manned by terrorists who hide amoung civilian populations? "Remember, whether it`s right or wrong, Israel is the only one actively pursuing a policy of ACTUALLY destroying neighbouring states at the moment." Israel is actively pursuing defending there right to EXIST!
Does anybody remember the last time the Iranian President called out Israel like this? When he said it should be wiped off the map. EVERYONE knows this. What a fool for saying this, he clearly doesn't want peace and its predicting conflict so why be on his side? Gosh for a country where you can't fly a kite or even say the word PIZZA is disgraceful. What a conceited wussy! He doesn't have the balls to attack Israel because he knows he will have MOABS reining wherever he is. And the CIA knows where he is at anytime too. So let him talk the talk, but can't walk the walk. Hey Amadinejad, go howl at the moon with your barking! Iran needs a regime change so the Middle East can exist peacefully. Islam is a peaceful religion, not a hateful one. Lots of muslims are being percieved as terrorists and that is not the case. Its punks like M.A. that the world fragile like it is now. It turns my stomach to see M.A. make a peace sign with their hands, PROVE YOU ARE OF PEACE AMADINEJAD!!!!!
To anyone who wants to see more of the crap that Ahmad-whatever and his bunch of merry idiots are spewing, go to www.memritv.org P.S. The Egyptian female newsanchor wears WAY too much eye makeup!!!
Alphabet, astronomy, math, architecture, nice carpets. But if you are asking for examples from the past 300 years not much that I can think of.
"From there, it will be just one step away to that ultimate nightmare: a clash of civilizations," Yes, the whole middle east is a nightmare. The radicals disguise their uncivilized behavior as delicate feelings for culture, religion and peace for all of mankind. The US and the rest of the civilized world can not ignore these twisted power mongers any longer. I can only hope we destroy each and every country that propagates the hatred of civilized mankind in such a way that the middle east will have some peace in the future. But today and in the foreseeable future, the radicals are going to take a huge loss and maybe public opinion will change, but I doubt it. We may have to destroy much more than any middle eastern leader could fathom. Their time has come, and we welcome it.
All 56 are irrelevant. Their voice just doesn't matter to anyone in this world.
Amoz said: "Credit, though, should go to the Arabs for it is from them we learn our algebra, medical knowledge and astronomy in the middle ages while we were still in the dark ages." Out of our Dark Ages came the Renaissance. The Arabs/Muslims didn't come up with anything new when they "invented" algebra, astronomy, and medical knowledge. They just invaded and then co-opted Byzantine/Roman/Greek technology and knowledge when they conquered. What have they done since then? What has the West did since the Renaissance? It doesn't take a Muslim rocket scientist to figure that one out.
1 thing: kept alive thought and education while europe repressed it.
Raved Ahmadinedjaad pushed the bautton of his own self-distruction.
we will have peace when the peace maker comes.
From the images on the news of the Israeli army it is clear that their foot soldiers are under-equipped. Check out the lack of body armour, outdated combat uniforms (vintage 1980s), no night vision, no kevlar helmets, substandard footwear. Damn! They aren't that good! Every Nato member equips its soldiers better. Lucky for Israel they are fighting Arabs, else they would be in trouble. From a military standpoint, Hezbullah is a joke. The arab world is proving, once again, that they are utterly incompetent militarily.
I can't think of one. All it has done is put people in bondage. Only the Judeo/Christian world view has made our world a better place.
You say "Without the original intellectual contributions of the Muslim world we would still be in the dark ages" That is such nonsense! How would you explain then that since that original intellectual contribution (which if you really know what you are talking about was nothing more than translating the old Greek texts and commenting on them) the muslim world did not contribute much of value? Meanwhile these very same texts would have become available in the Latin west anyway once the Turks conquered Constantinople. Western science owes next to nothing to Islam and may I remind you that "arab numerals" were invented in India? The truth is that in 7th century the Arabs conquered the most civilized part of the world at that time and ruined it economically and intellectually. But the decline was not instant and muslims did enjoy their moment of basking in someone elses glow. The so called "golden age of Islam" is a 19th century myth. Do your due diligence!
There is no such thing as "moderate" Arab/Muslim nations, they are all one and the same. Some of them have realized that they can use the West when it's convenient but always show their true colors when one of the terrorist muslim groups is in the process of getting their asses kicked. Claiming that peace will only occur when Israel gives up more land it won in the 67 war is the epitomee of Arab/Muslim arrogance and ignorance. No nation on this planet has ever been required to give land back to it's enemies after being attacked by those same enemies. Four major wars and four major defeats should have convinced the Arab world that the Lord God of Israel does exist and that Hashem fights for His people. There is no other group of people on this planet that has a bigger chip on their shoulders than does the Arab/Muslim world. Read Isaiah 17:1, "The burden of Damascus".
Giving new credit to his nickname '1000 bullets' that Mr Ahmadinejad got from the time of the revolution, he has until now slaughtered thousands of Iranians, hanging them (notably including women and children), tearing out their eyes, and torturing them in many other ways before killing them. Many more are awaiting their extermination in Iranian prisons. Today I saw documents and photos by an Iranian human rights organisation. What I saw was the most horrible things I have ever seen, and he is doing this to his own people, to women and children. Does the Quran not demand to protect women and children? This man is a beast. Please do not let this man rule the Middle East!
Ahmadinejad is the true repesntative of the Islamic world. And he, my friend, is insane.
Was it not a few days ago that the French FM called Iran a stabilizing force in the MidEast?
Why do you live in the US when you can live in the country with the only independent leader who is the true representive of the arab world?
Dear Osborne, I haven't heard a "Thank You USA" for the fact that you would be under German rule without us. It's amazing how some people forget. You should really think before you speak. The USA at the VERY LEAST is trying to keep larger destruction from happening by removing CRAZY people from power. I can't say I see much from your government.
Israel must be winning against Hezbollah terrorist, otherwise the muslims would be very quite. Why would Israel stop when some major Islamic leaders are calling for her destruction? Why would Israel give back the pre 1967 land when they were viciously attacked by all suronding muslim countries before it even had the land it got in 1967? The muslims wanted to kill all of Israel before 1967 and now want the land back?
I guess we should wait for better times to give our opinions. It is not time to talk anymore. It is time to act and to do it properly. The world MUST open eyes and confront Islamic Fundamentalism, the cancer that is eating the west, and using against us our own values like Human rights. Fortunatelly, iranian leader seems to be stupid enough to show everybody his real intentions. Are europeans so stupid that do not want to see it?
The UN has done nothing to avert this catastrophe. I was curious, when the UN post was hit, about what they observers were doing? Watching the Hezbollah launch missles? I thought peace keepers were on site to prevent violence, not watch it. If the UN mission will be to observe Hezbollah missle launches, then don't bother. The Iranians and North Koreans have observers enough on the ground to cover that task.
Clearly, hizbollah is sustaining serious damage and Iran desparately wants a quick cease fire to maintain its tentacles in the area. Tony Blair is right that the majority of the Western world doesn't get the absolute determination of dark Islamic forces to conquer the world one state at a time. More effort should be spent exposing their manipulation of the media into bold faced lies as simply one more tool they have hijacked. We all need to get real of what it is we are really fighting to bring the full moral and military weight of the civilized world down upon their heads and show their true criminal nature. Its criminal, not Islamic!
Even when Saudi Arabia asked the help of USA during the 1st Gulf war they asked USA not to send any Jewish American soldiers to the Saudi soil. Now this is real racist and real apartheid regime. In Israel there are many Moslem Israeli citizens who have representation in the Knesset, have all the rights that a Jewish Israeli has for social services, best health care and education. A Moslem Israeli has the right to choose to cover or open her face, drive a car or even learn how to fly an airplane. How many Saudi women living in Saudi Arabia have these rights? And you have the audacity to accuse Israel?.
Ali, I noticed you listed your city as Toronto. It appears that you don't think enough of Ahmadinejad to go live in Iran. Wish you would, though!
I can't argue with your logic. I believe that logical arguments given by either side are designed to serve their own objectives. Everyone seems to be fighting in their own self-interest, and then justifying their actions apostiori. In the end, people pick a side, and support the side to which they have attached themselves. If you are lucky, you happen to be on the winning side. In the end, it is the more powerful political/economic/military force who will win. Having said that, I am no different than anyone else. I have also attached myself to a side. I have attached myself to the Israeli side. If I am lucky, they will win.
Excuse me? Maybe you should visit my home, oh wait, theres a rock left. You can pick up my home.
Islam IS the problem, any questions?
Islam means peace, yeah!
King Abdullah right Islamic fanaticisms never going to give-up. To day in Lebanon and tomorrow in Jordan or Egypt, but strong and undefeatable Israel army is the only answer to Islamic fanaticisms since they believe in destruction of Israel.
Long live Ahmadinejad, the only independent leader who is the true repesntative of the Islamic world.
Although France condemning Iran for its president's latest insanity is appreciated it's not enough. Ahmadinejad must be stopped and radical Islamic fundamentalism must be destroyed. It is time for the world to join in the US war against radical Islam to make sure the Ahmadinejad's of the world don't get the chance to fulfill their threats.This scurge on humanity will stop at nothing to fulfill their evil goal of murdering infidels with Israelis at the top of their hit list.
David, It's not suprising that you would equate calls by Iran to destroy Israel (or at best, simply calling for destroying the Zionist regime - whatever that distinction without a difference might be) with calls for regime change in Syria/Iran. Do you really not see the difference between calling for an end to regimes that sponsor terrorism and openly threaten their neighbors (Syria/Iran) with calls *by* those regimes to destroy others? Are you really that dense?
Why does France think that Iran would choose to play a "positive role" in the Middle East? Ahmadinejad is a mad man. He and Hizbullah are totally irrational. They don't play by the same rules as democratic countries. You can't expect to appeal to them in a rational way. Violence is the only path they know to achieve their goals and, unfortunately, it is the only way to break them. You simply can't negotiate with irrational people, not Hitler, not Bin Laden and not Ahmadinejad.
Wait! I thought French officials trumpeted the stabilizing capabilities of the "great" and honorable Iranian Islamic Regime. What happened? Oh yeah, they actually caught a whiff of reality.
Let's all pronounce it correctly from now on. ;)
I think he is correct, he doesn't mean to exterminate the people but to end the state of Israel which is racist and adopts the destruction and the killing in the Middle East. When there is an organ fonction badly then the best is to eleminate it. It's a medical base.
Ned is right. I read the same news items with the reported words of the Iranian president. While I think Ahmadinejab talks too much and (from what i read talsk a lot of nonsense, I came to the same cunderstanding as Ned. What Ahmman...whatever...calls for is the end of a regime not the destruction of the state of Israel. Of course, while I don't believe he used words calling for the state's destruction, I have little doubt that he relishes this delusio in private.
You would like Israel had no friends but it does. I better go with the US than with thugs like bin Laden, Hashrallah, hamas, the al-aqsa murderers, the idiot of iran, the beheaders and other people like them.
We can never allow Hezbullah to survive this war. They are a sworn enemy of Israel and all the western world. his is a continuation of the desire of Islam to spread and conquer all the world like it tried to do from 794 - 1700. The only think keeping Muslims from taking Europe is Israel. Israel has been the world's buffer for 58 years. It's time the western powers get behind Israel and stop pacifying the barbarians at the gate. If Israel falls, we are all finished. mark my words.
Isnt't it strange that we find it unacceptable when Iran suggests regime change in Israel whereas Israel and US have been calling for regime change in Iran and Syria for the past years? Equating "the elimination of the Zionist regime" with the "Destruction of Israel" is as ridiculous as equating "Regime change in Iran" to the "destruction of Iran"... Strange enough, I haven't seen much condemnation of those calling (or acting) for the change of regimes in Iran, Syria, Irak, and many other countries around the world. :-)
That is so disgusting.
for a cease-fire. And the idiot of Iran is barking. It is not a sign of victory.
Give me one date in history where Muslim nations have even given Jews the same rights as a woman, and you could have something to say. It's a myth. Muslims have hated Jews since Muhammad told them to. Rarely in history have they tolerated them.
ISLAM is a plague, a virus a disease that needs to be eradicated! Turnabout is fair play. Do you feel discriminated against ?
For years I never grasped why the Brits called the French "frogs". Now I do... they jump all over the place. Anybody remember when the Hamas "warriors" seized a primary school in Ma'alot and started killing 8 year old Israeli kids? (I thought not). That's been spiffed up a bit by Ahmadinejad (aka "Mean Deen"), who hides behind womens' skirts, via Hizballah, to kill more kids. By the way, just what IS he doing under those skirts, anyway??!!
Can you distinguish Hizbollah from Iran? Hizbollah receives $200m from Iran.
Arabs are Semites, so cannot really be "anti-semitic, can they? They did live alongside the Jews not just in Palestine but in any other Arab country that sheltered Jews in the Middle-East and North Africa. One of the most overlooked examples of Arab-Jewish cohabitation is the era of Andalous dynasties in southern Spain when both communities flourished. I believe that even in Israel now, there must be large swathes of the population who genuinely believe that left to their own devices (i.e without the overpowering interference of the US (who we all know is using Israel as the spearhead of its disastrous Near-East foreign policy) Jews and Arabs could have very well learned to live together again. Israel cannot hope to survive in peace and security as an island amidst a sea of Arab neighbours if it continues to serve as vassal to America, even if it seems that US Middle East foreign policy is slave to the powerful Zionist lobby. Are any US soldiers or civilians dying in Israel now?
the reason they , "the terrorist of god" (Hezbo's)don't deal in reality is because the physics suck for them. ALl the statistics stack up against them so they invent ways to be succesfull or give the apperence of sucess. Today we practised for the olypics by moving a pile of rocks in an athletic display of rock throwing. Extra points award for accuracy if you hit a jew or a jew tank etc. Weighting your rocks down with bottles of gasoline doubles your scores. When win equals simply being able to wake up the next day and utter I hate jews again today like yesterday. Winning is a state of madness for the Hez as they do not adhere to reality. You'll notice it's a funded organization that the rich arabs fund the poor arabs to do the dieing for them to terrorise Israel and others. You cannot reason or satisfy a mad man you can only marvel at his madness and decide how to seperate him from society.
Zionism is not the caus of this struggle. Zionism was a reactionary movement. The result of thousands of years of persecution across the world. Why does no one point out that the ideas of Wahabbiism came out in the 17th century...an idea that dominates islam today and calls for the destruction of all jews and infidels.
dont worry if iran develop and use their own nukes,one thing for sure iran will be erased in the map by more powerful hydrogen bomb of israel. be strong ISRAEL!you will not be defeated by muslims cause your GOD is the true GOD that will protect you.
I support that suggestion of yours.
Osbourne, You forgot one. Its Tony Blair that has his head so far up Bush's behind (or should I say bum) that he couldn't make an opposing decision to the US if he wanted too. The UK/Blair are US puppets. Its the UK that has allowed US planes carrying weapons bound for Israel to pass through their airports. So your nation is to blame as well. Until your nation can make their own decisions, you might want to watch who you point the finger.
Do you mean the Israelis should have let Hizbollah attack them and go unpunished so they could go on with their murderous intentions? Hizbollah has become popular among the jihadists, you are right. But what do you want? Should the Jews let Hizbollah kill them so the terrorist organization would not be popular? Do you think its popularity would decrease in this case? If you think it is wrong for Hizbollah to be popular, why do you criticise Israel and not Hizbollah? You are contributing to the terrorists popularity.
Amoz learn some history. Without the original intellectual contributions of the Muslim world we would still be in the dark ages.
As if it were the first time he calls for the destruction of Israel. Besides he is funding Hizbollah for this purpose. This is why Hizbollah attacked Israel.
or when israel defeated the arabs in the six day war and took control of Israel.
Does Mr. Douste-Blazy think he has gained the credibility of a respected politician? Why would any intelligent politician call a terrorist state like Iran a "positive and stabilizing" entity adn Douste-Blazy did previously? He's only tha last of the numerous self-righteous French politicians without balls.
I would like to congratulate Israelis and Arabs alike: you are radicalizing just on time for the 2012 super-orgasm everyone in the evangelical, temple builder, and Hidden Imam camp is looking forward to. Go ahead and enjoy your 1914-experience. What if by any chance no Christ/Messiah/Imam appears ? Don't worry - your leaders will be safe in Patagonia.
There is NO room on this planet for any group that either believes, or worse yet teaches it's young, that the path to righteousness is the total destruction of another group. It flies in the face of everything that is right and just. Any GOD that would request that of his followers is no GOD indeed. Rulers and Leaders on ALL sides, need to start tempering their decisions with compassion and rationale thought....NOT passion and impulse.
No amount of 'land for peace' has ever gotten Israel any peace. Look at the current situation! Gaza? Southern Lebanon? Both given up by Israel in the name of 'peace'. The result? Check the news.
These Muslim leaders are gutless. I think the problem with all this terrorism throughout the world is Islam itself. The beliefs the radicals have are dominating the rest of the moderates. Islam has to find peace with itself otherwise the world is facing a dark future. Ultimately with a clash of Islam and western civilization. I hope the hope the west understands this, peace at all cost doesn't work, it just leads to even a greater war as world war II taught us. Islam needs major internal reform, otherwise, the seeds of a major world war are being sown.
If the IDF special forces has been winning!! so far,which i almost beleive at first,why every time they withdrew after they enter new area.That's why pepole beleive that hezb.. is winning the war.If some one have an answer please do because the israeli forces and media confusing us... shalom...
Let us imagine a new alliance. Countries belonging to this alliance should fulfill these conditions : i) Their leaders should refuse to drink alcohol when invited abroad ii) They should also frequently quote holy books at the end of their speeches iii) Their law should allow capital punishment of the minor offenders. Among the One-hundred-something countries of the world, I guess only Iran and US would qualify! After all, there is some hope!
There was hatred way back in 1936 because many Jews settled in the Ottoman colony called Palestine - along with many Arabs that settled there at that time too. And the Neguev, which had always empty of people before 1948 belonged to no one - and makes for more than 1/2 of Israel. The rest of occupied territories were lost to Israel by wars that Israel did not started (1948 and 1967) It is clear that Arab countries find it hard to accept a Jewish presence in the middle east. Now if you want to go by that, the Arabs also conquered and "stole" land Egypt and all of north Africa.
Ahmadinejad: "The solution is to destroy Israel but right now Hez-E-Bola (Iran and Syria's surrogates) are losing so their must be a ceasefire before its capability gets too impaired. Then it can regain its equilibrium, re-equip and destroy Israel." Brad: Ahmad, that is genius level reasoning. Israel, put down your weapons right now. I hope that the few readers of these sites who are neutral appreciate the significance of this comment and understand that this sentiment is shared in much of the Arab world and that it is a very long standing sentiment. Before Israel, it existed viz a viz Jews, hence the "Grand" Mufti of Jerusalem's alliance with Hitler. The Mufti even helped organize Muslim brigades to work with and futher the work of the little mustached murders plans. Israel has no choice and must fight with all its might. The only problem is that it is far too restrained.
hello , i'm muslim , arabic , french , human , ... i don't hate the jews and why should i hate them ? the actual conflict has no sense the History had learned us that power is not a way to peace and security , the way to those things is peace . i think there are too much people killed and this situation should stop. The only thing which is raising is that hizbolalah members are heros and i don't think that this is a good thing for all democratic people.
Even when Saudi Arabia asked the help of USA during the 1st Gulf war they asked USA not to send any Jewish American soldiers to the Saudi soil. Now this is real racist and real apartheid regime. In Israel there are many Moslem Israeli citizens who have representation in the Knesset, have all the rights that a Jewish Israeli has for social services, best health care and education. A Moslem Israeli has the right to choose to cover or open her face, drive a car or even learn how to fly an airplane. How many Saudi women living in Saudi Arabia have these rights? And you have the audacity to accuse Israel?.
Attending a summit of Muslim nations in Malaysia, Iran's president said: "The real cure for the conflict is the elimination of the Zionist regime, but there should be an immediate ceasefire first." Toppeling this "Zioni$t Regime" means NOT to DESTROY Israel! This regime by grace of the Political-Military-Industrial-Complex of the US, he thinks, which is trying to create a brand new Hitler for concering the Iranian Oil, should be destroyt like the Hitler Regime. If a strong and peaceful Israel goes back to pre-1967 borders, she will have real peace. But the Political-etc.-Complex needs war for making money by occupation and spilling blood!
Get real,the M-E is full of gangster dictators who keep their people in poverty and any aid that comes from the "outside" world is quickly snapped up by the hacks,while the poor people are conned and lied to by their so called "leaders" who tell them the Americans and the Jews are to blame for their miserable existance. Israel has every right to defend herself ,Hezbullah picked this fight and is getting the shit kicked out of it ,just like all who challenged Israel in the past,when will these morons learn? Israel is here to stay.Arab Leaders take care of your people,your beautiful children,your customs and culture ,you are a great people RISE UP and DEMAND of your SOCALLED LEADERS to educate you and provide for your children a good life and a safe envirnment to grow up in and mayby then the children of Israelis and the children of Arabs will one day live side by side in peace,think of the great things your two peoples could do? Rise and take back your humanity NO MORE WAR.
Why can't the world see the Ahmadinejad's rhetoric is Hitler's rhetoric? The "real solution" of the Middle East crisis sounds a lot like the "final solution" of the Jewish problem. Anti Zionism and anti-Semitism are one and the same. But the next Holocaust may be a nuclear one, and then we all lose. We must take this psychotic fascist very seriously, and do whatever is necessary to neutralize him, for the sake of not only Israel but of the entire world.
You are absolutely doing the right thing. This is not about 'land' - it's about your survival, and I as well as most Americans are behind you. You are in our thoughts and prayers daily. Stand strong! Your Christian Brother in Texas, Jim
Someone better take out Iran's capability to develop nuclear weapons or we all will be sorry. People need to understand that Islamic extremists will not hesitate to use them.
In another article on this website it is basically said that UNIFIL cannot do anything but watch as terrorists are evil and write reports condemning Israel. So, is UN hence not welcome? Do these allegations mean that because UNIFIL has not been Israel's loyal servant it is OK for Israel to murder UNIFIL workers? Is it justified for Israel to slaughter a Finnish military officer working for UNIFIL? Although certain governments would rush to kill and cause suffering to civilians, I am fairly certain that the Finnish governmet is not planning to declare war on the regime that has committed this cold blooded murder.
Israel has a very big problem. It no longer is the under dog. Jews refuse to be the victims of the world.
I love the prez of Iran. He is nice, good caring and well represents his people. He also cares about all other muslims all over the world and will take no SHSH from no body not even Usa.
I think that a solution would be for the Arab states to buy out Israel and allow the Jews to relocate to a country of their chosing. Let the Arabs fight over Israel amongst themselves. Keep Jerusalem under U.N. so that anyone could visit.
"I wish Iran would attack Israel. Then Israel will launch their nukes and they would be no more Iran to worry about...." I didn't know Israel had nukes? Tell some more! Or do you land in prison then, like Mordechai Vanunu?
Ahmadinejad springs from the same evil cesspool from which the likes of Hitler crawled. The Iranian people need to understand where Ahmadinejad is leading them and take control of their own destiny before it is to late. The surviving Germans from the World War 2 period will tell them how they were incarcerated and murdered by an evil regime. They will tell them what it was like to have their cities bombed to oblivion. They will describe how over 50 percent of the women of Berlin were raped. They will tell them how they were deceived by the lies told by the thugs they put into power. There is no doubt that if you asked a German from that period if they would have considered revolting against the Nazis in the early 30's to remove the regime they would answer in the affirmative. For them hindsight provides the obvious answer. For the Iranian people they have past reality to guide them to do the right thing before the walls of hell fall in on them. Iranians can control their own destiny.
Arabs even come out and say what their intentions are and everyone just thinks they are kidding. So you condemn what's said. If you don't back up the condemnation that they want to destroy Israel, you just let them have more time to spread their evil. If any one has read the book Mohammad, The Sword of the Prophet (by the way Mohammad was not a true prophet), the world would see that Islam is a savage religion, bent on world domination. Please read it, and the many other books on Islams real motives. Islam wants you submissive.
"with the words PSALMS 83" You don't really believe every word in the Bible as unfaltering truth, do you? "THEY THEMSELVES SHALL BE DESTROYED" That really worked with the Roman Empire, it still existed for 1383 years after the destruction of the 2nd Temple. And I really don't see the prosecution of Iranian Jews in your petty complaints about education. Many civilized countries don't even allow other education than state education, so nothing to choose. In a case like Holland where there is freedom to found own schools, I'm sure you'd also be in the frontline to cry foul of Islam schools and that they'd breed terrorists.
Islam: Let s start with Sudan: Moslems are butchering the poorest people in the face of the earth. Nothing to do with Israel or Zionism. Neither in Somalia nor in the Moslem parts of Nigeria where Sheria laws regularly condemn woman to be stoned to death there is the involvement of Israel nor Zionism. The Islamist terrorists also are terrorizing the Philippines which is a continent away from Israel and Zionism. Looks like in every part of the world wherever there is a problem there is some kind of Islamist terror. These are the facts.
It is easy to blame Israel as the aggressor, but why don't you look at the events which led to this? Which country in the world would be passive as its citizens are in constant danger from rockets being fired upon them, and as its soldiers are kidnapped and killed (and breaking international law in order to do so!)????? Why don't you look at Hezbollah and familiarize yourself with the Geneva convention, and read up on your history, instead of spewing your ignorant rhetoric on here!
I love to hear Ahmadinejad's calling for destruction of Israel. The more he calls, more I feel we are cutting Iran's heads. And its good for him not to forget that the nuclear plants maybe are our next targets, and it's impossible to carry them away.
A jihad is a holy war which means every muslim man would fight. A jihad is called when the entire race is in jeaopardy. A jihad would bring about destruction, becasue it is in every man's duty to fight. A Jihad is when one's land is harmed, the world would know when a jihad ould be called. there would be unrest in the world. Hexbollah acted correctly, the Israeli's were planing to assassinate people under the cover of darkness.
Hey Myles, Here is a history lesson - the "Palestinians" were kicked out of their brothers' lands - Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria etc. - Israel withdrew from the "occupied territories" and there is still no attempt on the "Palestinians" for peace - Israel wanted to give back Gaza to Egypt but Egypt did not want the Palestinians" If anyone should look in the mirror it is the Palestinians who continue to support these terrorists with nothing in return.
You really to do some research Unfortunately , there are soooo many uneducated people out there. That's one reason this war againist Isreal is prepetuated.
You mean 3,000 years ago? Or do you mean after Isreal bought land from Arabs? Or do you mean after the Bal Four Declaration which formally established the state of Isreal along with 52 other countries including Arab nations?
words. any one want to bet. this guy is the latest best thing that recently happended.
until the muslim council accepts and publicly endorses israel's existance nothing they say holds any thing of value. this time israel must push fiercly right to the end.
What in the hell are you smoking???? Hezoballah dug a tunnel under the Israel/Lebannon border, entered Israel, attacked a Israeli military installation, and captured 2 soldiers during the attack. This was a clear act of agression by Hezoballah that broke the existing peace.
Once again this fruit cake has stated, "Israel must be destroyed". Once again the Biased Media has their heads buried (you know where) about how this nut case is running his mouth about destroying Israel (Jews, Christians, etc). His non uniformed troops are bombing women and children everywhere in the middle east, northern Africa, Southeast Asia and the biased media shrugs their shoulders and looks to Qana and calls it an Outrage. It's unfortunate that women and children get killed during war, but when you lie down with dogs, your going to get up fleas. That means, if you live, support and hide the terroists (hezbollah), then your going to get the same treatment. That's just reality, and if Israel gives prior warning and the Hezies will not let them leave (human shields), and then you hide your guns, to parade the dead around when you arranged the press to come in on que for monstrous propaganda photo by expoliting the very people they entrapped is typical Islamic Fascists tactics
Doesn't this statement make things crystal clear? Islam and the middle east countries are not for peace. I can garranty that his feelings are identical towards the US. Why are we kidding ourselves into thinking that we can "negotiate" peace with these people. They burn our flags, they kidnap and behead our people. It is so frustrating that anyone could even begin to defend or attempt to somehow believe that we are not at war. They hate anyone who doesn't believe in Islam. And for those who continue to say Islam is a religion of peace and the vast majority of Muslims are peacefull...show me the massive street protests for 9/11. Show me a respected middle east cleric who speaks out against the terrorist. Point to one protest anywhere in the world where you have people burning Iranian flags. The reason you can't is because we would call those people ignorant, evil, hate mongers and facists.
HEZBOLLAH, PARTY OF GOD? JIHAD, HOLY WAR? When does god prescribe war by a selected party? When is war ever holy?? OXYMORONS!! By calling on the destruction of others and butchering others, you butcher your own people and destroy your own children by your actions.! You worship not God by your actions, you only worship death and destruction! Remember that one commandment? thou shalt not kill???
The President of Iran uttered once again the words "Israel must be destoyed." This fanatic will have the sudden realization that he fights against not simply Israel, but the God of Israel too. The whole world will one day know that it is God who has brought back and is bringing back Jews worldwide to their ancestral homeland, and that they were dispersed from there centuries ago for their rebellion to Him. Today, we are witnessing the promise God made numerous times in the Torah that He would bring His people back. Nothing on earth can stop that. Any nations attempt to do so will be at their own peril. So, Iran and the rest of the belligerent muslim states: You best keep your hands off Israel or you will find your nations destroyed and your tyrannical regimes in ashes. As was said in Genesis 12 and elsewhere, "I will bless those that bless you and curse those who curse you." Israel will not be defeated, you can count on it.
Hezbollah has made it clear time and again that it would retaliate by capturing and detaining Israeli soldiers if they entered Lebanon, and use them in an exchange of prisoners. Israel has in a deliberate manner sent a commando into Lebanon (Aïta Al Shaab) They came under attack from Hezbollah, who captured two of their soldiers. So, why does Israel get to behave any way it wishes, and the Arabs are to be condemned?
Is in reverse of what the nutter from Iran says. Curing all the problems in the ME will require destroying all those nutters who want Israel destroyed, Like Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, etc.
The real solution is to remove from the face of the earth all believers in radical Islam. Anyone you supports terrorists who use innocent children as human shields so that they can launch cowardly attacks upon civilians, does not deserve to live. There needs to be a war of Islam agains the world and Islam needs to suffer loses on the scale that would make the Japanese feel their WWII loses were a drop in the bucket. Perhaps on then can Islam give up the radical hate of all things not Muslim and learn to live in peace with others in the world. Of course not all Muslims support terrorists, but most terrorists are Muslims and most Muslims refuse to condemn the actions of terrorists.
To my many friends and acquaintances who doubt the veracity of the Bible, I like to point out the fact that the world seems to revolve around that tiny country of Israel and its special people, out of whom our Savior came. The ultimate solution to peace and justice will come when Jesus returns. Only in a sick and dying world can the Iranian President call for Israel's destruction and the rest of the world's nations bury their heads in the sand. Let's support Israel against this evil as it is a threat to all of us and in the meantime, watch for Messiah's return. To all of you in Israel, stay strong. Those of us who live far away have no idea what it's like to live surrounded by enemies who think nothing of strapping bombs on their sons and daughters. It even seems like people are forgetting what happened on 9/11.
That is quite a leap but what was is one thing what is is another . The contribution of Jews to the advancement of the welfare of all humans far trancends any contributions made by their Arab bretheran
... might be the biggest fool on this board (and there are some OUTSTANDING
no need 2 say more
It all goes back to murdering in the name of Allah! Why don't these Islamic fascist who still live in the stone ages wake up and get a clue. They don't want peace. Their lives are so horrible they make up fantasies about 72 virgins in a place they consider heaven. The way to get there is to apparently blow themselves up and take innocent people with them. IF the radical muslims want an all out war then let them have it. It's about time the Muslim world get's bitchslapped. Go Israel America stands behind you. Let Syria and Iran even attempt to jump in this war. I say end it like we ended WWII light up the sky in Tehran and light up Damascus send a powerful message to these extreme idiots.
ZC in dc i can tell three things from your post. 1) you know nothing of the situation 2) I know who you voted for 3) You believe there is nothing wrong with your own hate because it is only directed at gWb and all religion, esp Jews. To you and the west Israel/Jew/Judaism are all the same thing, and you secretly believe Ahmadinejad is right, that only if Isreal were removed from the equation, then all would be right with the world. You think that you can hide your hatred by trying to present an argument that seems reasonable. You transpararent fool. Stop being such a coward and start wearing your black and white keffiyah to work. You hypocrite.
NOT ONE OF THE LEADERS WHO WERE PRESENT AT THE CONFERENCE IN MALAYSIA SHOUTED AT THIS IRANIAN IDIOT TO TELL HIM HE WAS WRONG LONG LIVE ISRAEL GOD LOVES YOU
Ever notice that terrorism,war, and muslims seem to go hand in hand? Where ever there is a problem, it always involves muslims. Lets give them thier jihad! take out all the muslims and we can finally be at peace.
Because, the majority is always in the right....
There is no question that this is from G-d. How could a billion and some people of the Muslim world be so concerned about what Israel is doing when their people obviously have MUCH more pressing humanitarian issues of their own, such as dictatorship, widespread poverty, terrorists killing far more people in Iraq, etc... These people have never been opressed by Israel, and indeed have nothing to do with it whatsoever! It seems that the Muslim world is only looking for an excuse to wage war against the rest of the world. So let us wake up!
Did you know the French have intellegence agents? Have you ever heard of the Mossad? Have you ever read the news from another country besides USA and Israel? Did you know the kidnapped Israeli soldiers where in Lebabon when the were captured? Do you do any type of research before you start rambling? Do a google search on 'Mossad' and 'trojan horse'.
The President of Iran called for the destruction of Israel. Well, he will not have to lift a finger,Olmert is doing that for him. With Olmerts plan for Convergence or Re-alignment, whatever, he is doing just what the president of Iran wants, the destruction of Israel.
That's a flattering thought. Credit, though, should go to the Arabs for it is from them we learn our algebra, medical knowledge and astronomy in the middle ages while we were still in the dark ages.
I condemn the call to destroy the state of Israel and i call for a live in peace and respect side by side and do a lot of talking with self and mutual respect. Good luck
Sorry but the Hizbollah is not asking for a cease-fire but Lebanon does. Like or not Israel has lost its first war against the Muslim world. 250 000 soldiers against 20 000 men and the IDF is stuck on the border. Guess what will happen in the next coming years? Do you want a clue? Ask Ahmadinejad.
Abe, please stop being so one sided and realize that both sides are losing civilians through violence, and neither side is right.
Yeah right, next thing you'll say is bush brought down the twin towers. Thats why 90% of the US think you and your fellow Frenchmen are a bunch of idiotic spineless pansies. Love the food though.
Why do they hate Israel? is it their fault or the Israel's, let's admit that Israel is occupying territories in the West Bank, Gaza, Syria and Lebanon, .. what if Canada or Mexico came to the U.S and occupied some territories? i think we must resist and try to defeat them and kick them out of our land, .. here it's my friends, this is what the Palestinians and Lebanese are doing and the world call them terrorists!! .. even because of our support to Israel we found ourselves targets for terrorism, .. it's terrorism for us because we don't occupy any of their land but for Israel, I DOUBT?.. I believe Israel is responsible for this hatred
This war must stop, or it will radicalize the Muslim world. One county's excursion as a terror groups war.
Simply do some research and compare what the 15million Jews inthe world have contributed for the betterment of humankind insuch areas as medicine , technology , science , literature etc. and then do the same for the Arab/Muslim neighbors. The juxtaposition reveals the tremendous value that Jews / Isreal provide for the benefit of all.
1- ajmad.. was democraticaly elected but the last word in iran is said by the religious leader which is not elected, and the political system is subordinated to him. so in my concept this is not what i understand is a democracy in its full terms. if its people also support him they are also responsible for his actions. 2-israel is taking steps to protect the life of its citizens, and unfortunately because of lebanon particular political and militar situation needs to be done in an unpleasant way. by the way, while israel is targeting military targets which stay near civilians because of hizbolah strategy of hiding behind civilians, hizbolah has no concerns who they get, since their missiles are not very accurate, so in my view, those are not similar stands. 3-who is in lebanon govmt is a lebanese problem as long as lebanons gvmt behaves responsibly with the rest of the world, which it did not do since israel withdraw in 2000, and now you see the consequences.
Funny in every election throughout the world we hear about voting fraud. It surprises me that no fraud was involved in the Hezbollah elections. I've heard reports from Lebanease people that it's tabu to critize Hezbollah. Whoa, I wonder why? So, Is Hezbollah truely an "elected" entity? I think not.
If you work in an office, and two people have a problem with you, they are probably jerks. If everyone hates you, you are the jerk. Same goes for countries. If the majority of the world hates you(and that's a safe bet, since the Muslim nations hate Israel, the central and south American nations are not fans, European nations aren't, and neither are the Asian nations), you are the jerk. If it comes down to US, UK, and Israel against the world, who exactly are the jerks?
The Israelites have been fighting off Arabs for thousands of years. Perhaps you should become more educated on the subject before posting.
If Lebanon wants peace it needs to secure its border with Israel. If Lebanon remains a base for attacks on Israel, Lebanon will know no Peace. Israel attacked in 78 and 82 distroy PLO rockett bases in southern Lebanon. Lebanon has learned nothing.
What Ahmadinejad is correct. The reason for the strife is that the Muslim nations were forced to accept the state of Israel. There will be no peace as long as Israel exists. And since Israel isn't going anywhere anytime soon, there will be no peace anytime soon. However, since this will eventually come down to a war of attrition, the Israelis will eventually lose.
Now that is a compelling and convincing call for a cease fire. Stop firing and then we will destroy you!
Why are the islamics stating " Israeli agression"? Fact is Hezbolla crossed border killed Israeli soldiers, kidnapped, shoots rockets and runs as fast as they can behind a Mother and her child for Human Shields so to say look at the "Aggression"!!!Cowards and Wooseys, Israel, like any "Normal" country needs to protect its borders and any cost. Would'nt you?
Myles McSwiney. Go check history books & read on about "kufirs" in Arab countries. You might have wanted to say "Muslim world was less intolerant in Middle Ages than Christian world". Raping someone's sister and stealing his money is not much different from killing the person.
Israel to win this war must keep on degrading Hezbollah to create a vacuum in south Lebanon to be filled with valiant French and Turkish peacekeepers who are armed to the teeth. Is this a fantasy? Probably. If Israel cannot defeat Hezbollah militarily, then certainly the international community can't either. In the event of no military victory, Israel will have to swallow its pride, come home and work on missle defense for the next go round. To even appear to win this war, Israel might have to attack Syria, at least to the extent of degrading their military.
Nothing is new. They are trying for the last 56 years. And for the last 56 years, We seen what happened to them. Strong brotherhood with week results.
really absurd, Ahmedinedjad, want a cease-fire, why? obviosly he want to destroy Israël, so why doesnt he start now, why a cease-fire if he wants to destroy Israël, but he does not have the courage to attak, he is waiting to finish the contruction of his nuclear weapons probably, but please Israëlis and evrybody who is fighting terrorims KILL HIM
Eliminate the Jihadist regime run by the Ayatollah Khamenei and Ahmadinajad.
Quote: "This war must stop, or it will radicalize the Muslim world, even those of us who are moderate today," said Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, who leads the world's most populous Muslim country. Nothing that cannot stop Muslisms to be radicalized. They bombed Bali and Jakarta, and shouted "Allahu Akbar". They destroyed many lives in 9/11 and they shouted "Allahu Akbar". Islam is radical--very radical in the sense it worships death and promotes jihad (violence) against non-Islam. The notion that moderate Muslims do exist is illusion. Muslims are either direct supporters of Al Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah who can launch or be suicide bombers, or who can provide moral justification for their barbaric and evil acts. I have spent numerous time discussing with Muslism about the world security. Their answer has been consistent. Islam is being attacked and suffered and those who attack Islam must pay the price. But who's started all these messes? Muslims!!
Take a closer look at the period between WWI and the formation of Israel. The Muslims were carrying out mass executions of Jewish immigrants in the region. Of course that was nothing new... They've been doing it since their religion was founded.
(sorry if repeat posting) Abe: all three good and valid points. Nice to see that a discussion is possible on this forum, not just rant here, rant there :=) I agree about Iran's leader, although from what I have read from Iranian blogs, whilst I doubt he is any way so democratically elected as Israeli heads of state, he does enjoy huge support, so I doubt he would last *that* long without it. But one cannot deny that actions speak louder than words. Whether "necessary" or not, it is Israel, not Iran, that is inflicting huge structural, economic and ecological damage on Lebanon, a Middle East country that ALSO happens to be a democracy -- a democracy of which Hizballah appears to be a big part, like it or not.
(sorry if repeat posting) Abe: all three good and valid points. Nice to see that a discussion is possible on this forum, not just rant here, rant there :=) I agree about Iran's leader, although from what I have read from Iranian blogs, whilst I doubt he is any way so democratically elected as Israeli heads of state, he does enjoy huge support, so I doubt he would last *that* long without it. But one cannot deny that actions speak louder than words. Whether "necessary" or not, it is Israel, not Iran, that is inflicting huge structural, economic and ecological damage on Lebanon, a Middle East country that ALSO happens to be a democracy -- a democracy of which Hizballah appears to be a big part, like it or not.
I wish Iran would attack Israel. Then Israel will launch their nukes and they would be no more Iran to worry about....
He said current administration, not isreal
you are not realistic. its not gona happen. israel will exist as a jewish state as long as it people wants. Ahmadinejad: Though main solution is end of Israel, cease-fire is first step. he meant "end", maybe not by weapons, but the destruction of israel as a jewish state, just like you say, but why is this so bothering to him or you. does not iran proclaim itself as a muslim country even when there are cristians in the country and used to have many jews also in the past. why of the assimetry? are muslim better than jews? have they better rights? unless you face reality world will not get better place to live in, at least for you.
This constant jew-arb conflict will never end and cannot be won by any side. Give up Israel and move to your allies in the States.
Its their fault 110%. They dictate to hizbollah what they want when they want it. they give them 100 million dollars a year and supply every weapon. its irans army. let them pay for their war. NO HIZBOLLAH TERRORISTS; NO WAR period.
like, sharon, he will fail.
Kill and destroy Hezbollah as much as possible now or Israel will only face them in the future when they have greater rockets and perhaps guided missiles or wmd. A cease fire now will only give Hezbollah time to take a breather, heal their injured, and restock their supplies. This is war against a democracy by state-sponsored terrorists, not some struggle for Lebanonese freedom.
Long may Ahmadinejad spout such evil nonsense! Who could be better for Israel's interests than him? Here is the true (ugly)face of Islamic extremism, for all ther world to see. When you hear about somebody in authority advocating the elimination of a complete nation, you know which side you have to be on. Like up there in Heaven, there are only two sides.
Time to take him out already!
you got Grahame wrong. he meant to exclude from islam those extremists that create hate on the world. on the other hand if you really believe those guys represent islam, then i will believe you really live in the moon or mars. if you are a muslim like it looks, know that islam will only survive with peace and not with hate, just like any other religious belief.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad apparently set his goal to attain a decisive overwhelming Muslim countries participating in the to be errected military force for Lebanon under the guidance and most probably command of France. - Under prevailing circumstances Israel should not accept a predominant Muslim supervising military force with the duties for the disarmament of Hezbollah, for the prevention of further armament, ammunition and military import / supplies to Hezbollah and to man together with the Lebanese army the border lines.
You think that destroying the Zionist entity is the solution. How many synagogues are there in your native Saudi Arabia? How many Jews have run the governments of your native Saudia Arabia,Iran,Iraq, or Jordan for that matter? You believe that Jews should always be a minority in Muslim countries (Muslimism). We would like Muslims to be a minority in a Jewish country (Zionism). If we are racists, what are you?
Hey alan, I guess that you see it as ok to park a launcher inside a residential area. The Israel Defense Force is targeting military targets. Its the Hez that are making the helpless women and children and ifrastructure pay by counting on collateral damage. If they want to endanger their people, that is their decision. Just try to be honest about what is happening in Lebanon.
THE BEST THING FOR THE WORLD IS THAT IRANIAN PEOPLE WIPE OUT THE MULLAHS FROM THEIR COUNTRY AND AHMADINELQALB WITH THEM: AFTER THAT WE WILL HAVE PEACE IN THE MR: IT IS KNOWN THAT FREEDOM IS NOT POSSIBLE SOLONG THIS MAD MEN IN IRAN HAVE THE POWER
How frustrating for the Arab and Persian nations that after all that work to take over the UN, turn it into a terrorist supporting entitiy, and having their way with bogus resolutions against Israel for so long,the US is taking it back from them.By appointing John Bolton the US said "no more" to Arab manipulation of the UN to serve radical Islamic causes. Kofi is seething mad as we see in his daily tyraids against Israel and he would be saying the same about the US if we weren't his biggest funders. Too bad Kofi, your days at the UN are numbered and the US and allies will end your terrorist supporting regime so the UN can do what it was meant to do and not be an attack dog against the US and Israel any more.
Ahmadinejad goes to Malasia for a cup of coffee and to hear his cronies agree to wiping Israel of the map. He let his rabib barbarians of their leash,to attack Israel,Israel retaliates and they do not like it,so they call for an immediate ceasefire. I know why,The 2,500 or so missiles fired by hezbollah have not had the effect on Israel that he Amadinejad had hoped,he wanted thousands of dead and wounded. Thank G-D this did not happen.
i believe you got a few points wrong: 1-israel REGIME as you state was elected democraticaly elected and if most israelis would not support it falls next day, in the same way as in germany, both parlamentary democracies. and what i mean here is israeli gvmt is represnting its people up to the minute the people wants and not any minute more. 2-in the case of iran i consider different, since its not a democracy as we understand. its main ruler is a religious leader, which is not elected, and all the rest of the political systems is subordinated to him, so here i would consider a REGIME instead of a state. nevertheless, it still might get full support from its people, but dont forget the media in iran is state controlled. 3-israel has no policy of destroing a country as you mention, but is destroying the infrastructure of hizbolah just because lebanese gvmt cannot give assurance of control of the country, so the acts are with military purpose which have unfortunate consequences.
They want an investigation into Israel's flgrant violations of human rights look no further than their own countries!! Israel has committed no human rights violations if anything it should be applauded for trying to not hurt civilians by dropping leaflets telling the Arabs to get out or they might die! If anyone should be investigated it should be those muslim countries and their proxy terrorist organziations for making women and children stay in buildings that are full of explosives and weapons to make it look like the Israeli's killed them. The only violators of basic human rights in the world are those countries that say Israel is somehow violating human rights!!
for their actions or even their inactions. They will never learn, because it is obvious their main focus to hate the Jews so much, that they became completely blind. That's what happens when you are in rage. Let them suffer. I have absolutely no pity with them.
Solution to solving the problem with Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia and the rest of the arab world in the middle east would be to just go on the offensive for once and kill all these freaks of nature that hate Israel and the U.S. so much then kill all the clerics who preach death to everyone but, muslims that way there would be no more teaching of how to hate from childhood then remove these stupid dictators and finally torture Ahmadinejad becasue he is porbably one of the worst.
they also kill the christians in Iran to
3-i know you are concerned with israeli "disproportionate" actions in lebanon, but i dont see in the media a tenth of the attention the the everyday killing that goes in iraq of innocent civilians, including many children. i wonder if its ok for mulsims to kill muslims but jihad if an infidel does it?. it is like if a live value is irrelevant or not depending on who kills it. and here we are speaking 50-70 people killed by terrorist means every single day. i have seen no word from these concerned muslim leaders. 4- keep you concept of imperialism in mind when you consider the oil used as arm, and instead, try to consider, or dream of democracies in the arab/muslim world, where anyone can speak itself out, just like you are doing speaking against israel in an israeli newspaper uncensored. if you can, please consider a peaceful visit to a place where you can do that like israel.
Now there's an oxymoron!
"We know that every problem in the world is one way or another connected to Israel." Why am I reminded of the guy in My Big Fat Greek Wedding who argued that all languages derive from Greek? David Segal
Good thing that Iran is a stablizing factor in the ME.
I never thought I would have to defend the Iranian president but you obviously need some help in understanding something here. Destroying a REGIME has nothing to do with destroying a STATE. I for one would quite welcome the current warmongering REGIME in Israel to be removed, but I would certainly not want the STATE of Israel to be destroyed. Remember, whether it's right or wrong, Israel is the only one actively pursuing a policy of ACTUALLY destroying neighbouring states at the moment. No surprise that some world leaders would like to remove those from power who are carrying it out.
Instead of decrying the ineffectiveness of the U.N., these nations should realize that they are part of the cause. Remember the United Nations was formed at a time when nations were "united" in their views about war and peace in the world. If these nations can bring their views in line with those of other civilized democratic countries snd stop talking about destroying Israel, maybe they can become a force of unity in the UN. otherwise, expect to see more of the same.
How you can humiliate the people in Iran in such a way. You are a disgrace to yourself and the people of Iran including Persian culture!
Haaretz: you contracdict yourselves in the headline you say the iranian president want to destroy israel. If you read the article he says that he want to change the zionist regime. So if Israel was saying it wanted a regime change in really want to say destroy the country? I do not want to see the destruction of Israel, but an other government where palestians in west bank and gaza could vote for the knesset would be a possible solution, of course it would be the end of a zionist regime, not the destruction of Israel
Iranian President, why make these types of declarations. Better to be quiet.Things will take its course by itself. The foolish government does a good job by itself. As Israelis, who do not believe, and are constantly willing to give up our Land, the Holy Land of Israel, will eventually disappear. Be patience.
ahmadinejad spelled ahmaghinejad means stupidin farsi which is his nickname in many parts of iran. also, if spelled antari nejad it means monkey which is also a very popular nickname among many iranians. both names fit this imbecile very well.
For what? the consequenses of their cowardly spineless allowance of fortress hezbollah on their lands. NUTS! lebanon put the match to the gunpowder in giving a known iran-linked terrorist organization a free romp in their country and a significant place in their government. Let them pay for their cowardice and stupidity! and let them pay heavily! lebanon is reaping what it has sown. the UN is a joke gone bad.
no one can destroy the ISLALM ,I guess you know well how it will be your END' !!!
Yea Gina. I want an incentives package too before agreeing to a cease fire. I want free oil from Iran for the next 50 years! Also, I want Iran and Syria to compensate Israel for the costs of the war we had to incur in order to remove the Hizbullah gorillas from our internationally recognized and confirmed border by the UN. Iran and Syria, who the French call the "stabalizing" countries of the middle east need to pay the bill, since they are such stabilizing forces.
The real solution to all of the world's crises is to destroy Islam's militant hatred of everything good and right in the free world. Only with evil Islam removed will there be lasting peace anywhere.
Seems odd that at a conference among so many states, noone objected to the rhetoric used by Iran? Is Islam so corrupt that they don;t see theor moral blindness. What other gathering ahas allowed a call for the absolute destruction someone they are trying to come to an agreement with vis a vis the road map or "Beirut statement"? Can Israel trust any government in the shadow of the Holocaust and Inquisition which is a VERY SHORT time in the context of world history.
sam - surely you are aware that Israel contains 7 million population, 5.3 are Jews, 1.3 are Arabs (Muslims) and the balance Christian, Drize, etc. that Muslims sit in the Knesset, Druze serve in the IDF, tell me how many Christians are allowed in your country? how many Jews? despite all the hatred from surrounding countries this band of Jews from 80 countries has built a thriving democracy, vibrant economy without any of the natural resources that others have.
Please read up on history before spreading false statements. Otherwise you are a tool of the Arab imperialism and propaganda machine much as you accuse Israel of being a tool of the US. The King David Hotel was not full of women and children, it was filled with British soldiers. The Irgun gave 3 warnings of the bombings to the soldiers before it occurred. The British chose to ignore the warnings and suffered as a result.
We know that every problem in the world is one way or another connected to Israel.We can not accept a regime built on religion and on racist foundations.Israel was established to serve the Western imperialist masters. So wake up Jews of the world, the west have always slaughtered you and they will do it when they dont need u anymore.Your Moslem brothers r the ones who protected u throughout history.Jews, Moslem and Christians against American Western Imperialism
Firstly, A Large SIgn Should be In IRans and all ISlamic worlds faces - with the words PSALMS 83 - about nations plotting for the destruction of Israel - THEY THEMSELVES SHALL BE DESTROYED - READ IT! Secondly, I hear in Iran Jewish schools must have a Moslem as it's head and are forced open on the Jewish Sabbath and Biblical Hebrew is forbidden to be taught. And of course everyone there fears to says anything not anti-semitic about Israel.
When this all over and Hezbollah has been destroyed I'm sure that all the Islamic nation attending the conference will all be rushing to contribute towards the rebuilding of a free Lebanon,including a lunatic asylum for Ahmadinejad,that is, if they will have him
"This war must stop, or it will radicalize the Muslim world" ok lets see, how less radical than call for the destruction of Israel can this be??? So they say, stop the war now, and we destroy you but they are not total radicals! Good imagine if they were radicals already!!??!!
You paint a false picture. Israel is not a small country that stands by itself, it is a tool of the US (that would not survive a week without the US), for the objectives of the US in the ME. So when you fight Israel, you fight the US and it's imperialist and racist objectives in the ME. Israel is to the Arab "terrorists" what England was to the Jewish "terrorists" like Menachem Begin who blew up the King David Hotel full with women and children. The state of Israel is in a way founded on terror, just like many Arab states.
What are they? Goyim and the truth. We have to realize that the Poles and Russians who founded the Israeli state have contempt for the world's non-Jewish population. Moreover, they are patholgical liars.
IS the solution to the Iranian genocide threat to eliminate the opressive Iranian regime? Sounds like a good plan. Shmuel
Price on their heads from the the same sources as those against the "Zionist Regime" so hated by you. 12 of them still living in Denmark,you've failed.There'd be consequences for you because of your tardiness,I'm afraid.
There are obscure points in Ahmadenejad's biography. Contrary to all other leaders in the middle east (Iran included), this guy never misses an opportunity to pronounce his favorite sentence, which is what the Irsaelis claim to be the real intention of their foes. A number of Iranians believe that Ahmadinejad is a covert MOssad agent.
There is nothing wrong with what President Najad is saying. Dismantling the zionist regime is differnt form destroying jewish people, and he did not advocate genocide as far as I know. Zionism is a sick racist docrtrine taht has brought nothing but pain suffering hate and destruction of wars between Muslims and Jews. The sooner jews realize taht Zionism is not the answer the sooner peace will come to all of us.South Afrikaan's appartheid system was dismantled and whites are living in peace now. So will the jews when they abolish the dreadful evil zionism.
Dear Mr Aussie, Lets not forget who the aggressor is and who the 'people' who are threatening world security and safety. Lets not forget that the muslims have said countless of times that they are waging war against the West Crusaders. Lets not forget what they are capable of doing. Only Israel has the guts and courage to fight back against these savages.
They want to engage Israel by drawing them into Lebanese territory where they would have an advantage.
Why the Iranian "Peace Lover" Ahmadinejad want cease fire now, when Hizballah are "winning"?? Because they are not!! There is no need to blubber time and again that the muslim countries suddenly care for their "Ahui's" (brothers) in Lebanon. They don't care for millions other muslims dying from their own brothers in Sudan, Afganistan, Iraq, to mention a few. The reality is as always simple: Islamic radical fashist anti-semitism is what governs all these Islamic states today - It comes out more freely and eloquently. Mel Gibson could now be their celebrity spokesman. The wonders of Holliwood!!
Cammon. Isn't it obvious. Iran needs to be killed. Or maybe israel should wait until Iran kills Israel?
scared for their positions. they let this happen now let them tremble for their safty. and until they offer israel security let them wet their pants out of fear.
2.4 million IDF (including reserves), latest US supplied weaponry including warplanes, helicopters, tanks, ships, electronics etc. against 2000 or so guerillas (NOT terrorists) using mostly ww2 era soviet weapons.
that is just what Israel would like to do with the Iranian Regime. Why beings such drama queens?
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Human Shields is another word that Israel hides its immoral actions behind. In fact, they are the one who are use Human shields in Gaza to hide behind. Israel is a terror state, it targets children, women and UN forces. It says that it is not in war with Lebanon, yet, it kills its civilians, it kills its army, it destroys its infrastructure and economy. Lebanon is under siege but a bunch of criminals who are powerless if it wasnt for the big bullies in the US.
To resolve the middle east problem is to destroy Iran ,not realy but for sure Pres. Ahmadinejad,in one lucky stike ,Hamas, Hizbollah,problems in Irak would disappear,and peace would be upon us ,what a dream.
Hezbollah may or may not win, but Israel has already lost.
That says it all. 56 to 1 with a uncompromising attitude to the Jewish State objecting to it's very existence. When will we ever have peace?
you are obviously well versed in islam oh mighty one. But i think you are better to make french fries and hamburgers for the americans. it is there you will prosper and find meaning. following your logic, that there was no islamic antisemitism until israel was born means you should follow your icon ahmedenijad's conclusion that the way to eradicate islamic anti semitism is to eradicate israel. think my friend (i say that loosely) before you speak/write? right?
So If that is his solution to the problem why is he all mouth. COME ON IRAN IF THATS WHAT YOU THINK WHY DON'T YOU TRY? BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE VERY MINUTE YOU DO, TEHERAN WILL CEASE TO EXIST.
If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.
Whenever leaders of dictatorships use the word "SOLUTION" you can expect whats coming next. The only "SOLUTION" is to remove ahmedinejad & his brand of islamofacsim from this planet & you will have solved the M-E crisis be removing the head of the snake that controls terror, inc. worldwide. Give him a bullet in the head or maybe just let him share a room with Mel Gibson Im sure they'll have a lot to talk about.
"in their legitimate and courageous resistance against the Israeli aggression."
of course, now that everything i destroyed and they are loosing as usual, they want to stop, but Israël should continue and give them a lesson they will never forget, so sorry for the Israëlis sordiers, and for the civilians killed, Israël even take care of the abandonned animals. Israël i am with you
Yes, that's easy. The US is the one paying Israeli pilots for dropping US bombs on civilians in Lebanon, by US planes run on US provided jet fuel. The UN is the spineless bunch watching it happen by giving the reported War Criminals a "green light" to carry out their daily attrocities. See there's a difference.
If UN is going to be always flixible, weak in taking her own natural and neutral decision towards all middle east problematik, it is definetaly going to increase the hate to all isreali and then will see the 2nd Nazi period...we have to be wise...
Until Hezbollah is rendered impotent. Until the soldiers are returned safely Until an armend force is in S. Lebanon which will PREVENT Hezbollah from returning and rearming. Then: get Ahmadinejad. Then...ceasefire.
Was this some sort of colossal joke?! My calender reads 3rd August not 1st April. This demand is akin to sending the Wehrmacht to Iwo-Jima in 1945 to seperate the US and Japanese armies! I have a better Idea. Lets send Sunni UN troops to Iraq to keep the peace!Brilliant!!!!
"Islam wasn`t anti- jewish until Israel was established. Hold up a mirror" I take it you have never read the Qu'ran! Or any other history book for that matter......
I don't like this idea of Muslim only Peacekeepers -- it's supportive of the notion of the "Muslim World" -- which generally wants to destroy Israel. The new force must be able to strike back and we (I am talking as an American) should not pay to rebuild southern Lebanon -- the terrorists should not be rewarded by getting new infrastructure.
I know we've had wars and Arabs have killed Jews and Jews have killed Arabs. Yada-Yada! But I've known different kinds of Arabs. Kuwaitis, Morrocans, Egyptians and Syrians and to tell you the truth, there is only one kind of Arab that is truly the old fashioned kind of Anti-Semite. I mean Nazi-Like! To tell you the truth, it is clearly the Syrian! The rest we could live together with if we tried! Selah!
Brad hit it on the money. True peace can only happen by pressuring BOTH sides. All the media has been anti-Israel, yet completely ignoring that Hezbollah started this conflagration and can easily end it by giving back the soldiers. I completely disapprove of the destruction of Lebanon and hate seeing the devastating images. But as long as Hezbollah continues to attack Israel, Israel can legitimately claim self defense. It would be nice to blame the problems of the World on Israel, but when one considers Israel along with Chechnya, Kashmir, South Phillipines, Cyprus and East Timor, perhaps Brad is right to point the finger at Islamic imperialism.
Islam wasn't anti- jewish until Israel was established. Hold up a mirroir.
Shi------ite! Indrajaya! We're really scared! Seems like you don't understand the Shiites are losing and the Druze and the Sunni Arabs want Israel to finish the job! Selah!
the muslim willingness to participate is good, the fact that they have not entered the conflict is even better...but it does signify that something should be done soon to wind up the fighting? It will also not be good to leave isreali troops in lebanon for too long...or else they might become sitting ducks, targets for remaining gurillas who are just over the litarni river
"They should prepare an incentives package of things they will give us and do for us for help with a cease fire. We need to be appeased." ROTFL! How about a year's supply of chocolate? I support Israel, but I've also got needs ..
Also, I'm looking forward to an Islamic Conference Resolution that would condemn Hezbollah's use of mosques to shield their rocket launchers and terrorists. Surely at least one Islamic country will a sponsor a resolution condemning use of human shields? ....
This statement probably doesn't matter much to impose cease-fire. They knew it. But at least, the muslims world has stated their demanded loud and clearly. If "SOMETHING" happen in the world tomorrow, BY INDIVIDUAL GROUPS AND STATES, they would say: WE told you.
The Muslim world hates Israel because it is a Jewish state in a region they consider their own. They vote with their emotions and with the emotions of their populations, not with their intellects.
They should prepare an incentives package of things they will give us and do for us for help with a cease fire. We need to be appeased. They can look at our offer to Iran as an example. We want something like that. And then, like Iran, we want a couple of years to examine the offer. But I'll bet help shutting down Irans' Uranium enrichment program could persuade us to act much quicker. It would be great deal for them, too, since Iran plans to use it to take over their countries, not ours. It would be a win-win solution. For iran too, because if they ever get a nuclear bomb it will lead to their destruction.
I thought would never see the day when the UN would turn on itself but here it is and what a delima this is! It is almost laughable really: The U.N. has always played pacifist to terror organizations... oh well, what else is new?.. well they cannot very well act immediately on this situation without showing itself for what it is, a broker house for terrorists... so it has to wait and wait like it did with Iraq's Saddam... and like it did with the resolution about driving out hezbollah from Lebanon.. and like it did countless times everywhere else these terrorists are! So, how bout it U.N., who is buying your goods today? And better said, who wants to buy your goods today? Arabs don't want stall tactics and that is all you have to sell... what a delima indeed!
and then they r calling for cease-fire! ironic!
So the P.M. of Malaysia thinks that the only thing that stands between an immediate U.N. call for a ceasefire and a ceasefire is courage. He is right about that. But wrong about what the courage is about. Its courage to stand up for what is right and not call the ceasefire until the Hez-E-Bolas no longer endanger Israel and are put in a position where they cannot do so in the forseeable future and return the kidnapped soldiers. Where was the courage of the U.N. when this H of a non state was building up its murderous arsenal and pointing it in a single direction. Where was it when it kidnapped the two Israelies and killed others. Why didn't it provide a 72 hour opportunity to return the soldiers and begin the process of implementing 1559 or face severe U.N. force. Radical Islam is virulently anti-Jewish and for that matter virulently anti-everything except Islam. Hez-E-Bola is sworn to the destruction of Israel and had enough serious weapons to be more than rhetorical. And Leb.